El Paso SH 178 (Artcraft road) freeway upgrade, $244 million

Started by MaxConcrete, July 09, 2024, 04:46:45 PM

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MaxConcrete

Bids were opened today

County:   EL PASO   Let Date:   07/09/24
Type:   INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS   Seq No:   3002
Time:   1273 WORKING DAYS   Project ID:   F 2B24(273)
Highway:   SH 178   Contract #:   07243002
Length:   6.046   CCSJ:   3592-01-009
Limits:   
From:   NM/TX STATELINE   Check:   $100,000
To:   IH 10   Misc Cost:   
Estimate   $220,055,591.27   % Over/Under   Company
Bidder 1   $243,747,771.41   +10.77%   SUNDT CONSTRUCTION, INC.
Bidder 2   $259,564,227.83   +17.95%   JORDAN FOSTER CONSTRUCTION, LLC


Looking at the plans, this is a minimal 2x2 freeway on a very narrow right-of-way, extending from the New Mexico border to I-10. The main cost driver is four new direct connectors at I-10.
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Stephane Dumas

It could be interesting to see if NM DOT will follow suit where TX-178 became in New Mexico NM-136 to upgrade some parts of NM-136 to freeway as well?

DJStephens

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Quote from: MaxConcrete on July 09, 2024, 04:46:45 PMBids were opened today

County:   EL PASO   Let Date:   07/09/24
Type:   INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS   Seq No:   3002
Time:   1273 WORKING DAYS   Project ID:   F 2B24(273)
Highway:   SH 178   Contract #:   07243002
Length:   6.046   CCSJ:   3592-01-009
Limits:   
From:   NM/TX STATELINE   Check:   $100,000
To:   IH 10   Misc Cost:   
Estimate   $220,055,591.27   % Over/Under   Company
Bidder 1   $243,747,771.41   +10.77%   SUNDT CONSTRUCTION, INC.
Bidder 2   $259,564,227.83   +17.95%   JORDAN FOSTER CONSTRUCTION, LLC
Looking at the plans, this is a minimal 2x2 freeway on a very narrow right-of-way, extending from the New Mexico border to I-10. The main cost driver is four new direct connectors at I-10.

Much of the W side of El Paso is an exercise or example of "unplanned" growth.  Artcraft and Loop 375 should have been directly connected at a four or five level stack.  Personally would have either connected midway between the two current interchanges [a hypothetical Exit 7], or at Exit 6 and bought out the entire corridor west of Exit 6 to properly route the connector to the border crossing with acceptable standards.
Remember the area in the mid nineties.  It was literally all desert, with a handful of  businesses on the frontages of 10.    The circa '00 construction of Artcraft connected to 10 two miles S of the Trans Mountain or Loop 375 interchange with 10.  The then new Artcraft interchange used the then popular "tub" girders.  It was simply a tacked on diamond interchange, without any modifications or long range plans for the build out of a ultimate 10 corridor.  Both the Artcraft [exit 8] and Trans Mountain [exit 6] were allowed to become hemmed in with unplanned growth.  Gas stations/convienence stores, dollar stores, a Rudy's barbeque, motels, and an outlet mall at Transmountain.  All packed in, and too close to each other.   
All generating an ever increasing number of vehicle trips.   The growth of trucking seeking to use the border crossing out in the desert W of Santa Teresa NM has overwhelmed the inadequate Artcraft interchange.   It was sub-standard when it opened.  Literally most everything on the W side of the Artcraft interchange will have to cleared.   Nobody saw this coming?     

DJStephens

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on July 09, 2024, 07:27:40 PMIt could be interesting to see if NM DOT will follow suit where TX-178 became in New Mexico NM-136 to upgrade some parts of NM-136 to freeway as well?
Hah.  Fat chance of that.  They recently redid the original roadbed [again circa '00] with concrete. Keeping all the grade intersections, the traffic signal at McNutt Road, also two closely spaced signals near the Southern Pacific RR crossing, the narrow cross section, and the narrow shoulders.  The "new" concrete is already black from the skidding of trucking to come to a stop at the signalized intersections.  It's a joke.   



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