Interstate 73/74

Started by Voyager, January 18, 2009, 08:09:48 AM

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Mapmikey

Virginia traffic logs, which show hidden concurrencies with one of its VA 9000x routes and the gaps in VA 42, does not show an I-74 concurrency and to my recollection I-74 has never been discussed in the CTB or on VDOT's website...

Mike


bob7374

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 07, 2015, 08:58:01 PM
Virginia traffic logs, which show hidden concurrencies with one of its VA 9000x routes and the gaps in VA 42, does not show an I-74 concurrency and to my recollection I-74 has never been discussed in the CTB or on VDOT's website...

Mike
True. However, AASHTO in 1997 officially approved I-74's routing south of I-81 along I-77 to the NC border, as well as its proposed routes through NC and SC, so VDOT could put I-74 signs up if they wanted to. I don't see any need for VA to put up any signs though until the I-74 is signed to Winston-Salem.

Henry

Quote from: bob7374 on September 07, 2015, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on September 07, 2015, 08:58:01 PM
Virginia traffic logs, which show hidden concurrencies with one of its VA 9000x routes and the gaps in VA 42, does not show an I-74 concurrency and to my recollection I-74 has never been discussed in the CTB or on VDOT's website...

Mike
True. However, AASHTO in 1997 officially approved I-74's routing south of I-81 along I-77 to the NC border, as well as its proposed routes through NC and SC, so VDOT could put I-74 signs up if they wanted to. I don't see any need for VA to put up any signs though until the I-74 is signed to Winston-Salem.
And seeing that I-74 is not connecting to Cincinnati anytime soon, why would they? That's just another useless concurrency we simply don't need.
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wdcrft63

Agreed. Someday in the not too distant future, NC will decide that it wants an interstate designation across the southern edge of the state from Tryon (I-26) to Wilmington. That will put an end to the I-74 nonsense. (I hope.)

jcarte29

Interstates I've driven on (Complete and/or partial, no particular order)
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40, 85, 95, 77, 277(NC), 485(NC), 440(NC), 540(NC), 795(NC), 140(NC), 73, 74, 840(NC), 26, 20, 75, 285(GA), 81, 64, 71, 275(OH), 465(IN), 65, 264(VA), 240(NC), 295(VA), 526(SC), 985(GA), 395(FL), 195(FL)

bob7374

Quote from: jcarte29 on November 19, 2015, 04:14:09 PM
http://governor.nc.gov/press-release/governor-mccrory-announces-accelerated-timelines-major-transportation-projects

Included with this is the *entire* I-74 stretch on the eastern end of Winston-Salem!
In addition to the specific projects mentioned, the governor's plan would fund additional projects in the 2016-2025 State TIP. These include a new project that would fund bringing US 74 up to Interstate Standards between the Rockingham Bypass and the existing I-74 in Robeson County, work would start in 2022. Also several intersection conversion to interchange projects for Future I-73 along US 220 north of Greensboro and Future I-74 along US 52 in Stokes County would be accelerated to start in 2022 and 2023.

mvak36

When they say Fiscal Year, what does that mean? For example, if they say FY 16, does that mean it's just all of 2016?
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froggie

Quote from: mvak36When they say Fiscal Year, what does that mean? For example, if they say FY 16, does that mean it's just all of 2016?

No because, at the Federal level, FY 2016 began on October 1, 2015.  Some states do the same...some states begin their fiscal year July 1 of the prior year (so in this case, July 1, 2015).  I'm not sure what North Carolina's situation is.

In short, governmental Fiscal Years do not coincide exactly with the regular calendar.

WashuOtaku

Quote from: froggie on November 20, 2015, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: mvak36When they say Fiscal Year, what does that mean? For example, if they say FY 16, does that mean it's just all of 2016?

No because, at the Federal level, FY 2016 began on October 1, 2015.  Some states do the same...some states begin their fiscal year July 1 of the prior year (so in this case, July 1, 2015).  I'm not sure what North Carolina's situation is.

In short, governmental Fiscal Years do not coincide exactly with the regular calendar.

North Carolina is July 1st.

bob7374

I have posted several new photos of construction of the first segment of the I-74 Winston Salem Beltway forwarded to me by jcarte29 on my I-74 Segment 4 page:
http://www.gribblenation.net/i7374nc/i74seg4.html

In other news, a Randolph County source has told me that in discussions with an NCDOT engineer about the I-73/74 Rockingham Bypass, he was told that the Bypass segment, currently unfunded, may be funded next year. It was unclear whether this was more from the governor's budget changes, or that the project would be funded in the new Draft 2018-2027 STIP due out next summer.

jcarte29

Quote from: bob7374 on December 15, 2015, 11:24:40 PM
I have posted several new photos of construction of the first segment of the I-74 Winston Salem Beltway forwarded to me by jcarte29 on my I-74 Segment 4 page:
http://www.gribblenation.net/i7374nc/i74seg4.html

In other news, a Randolph County source has told me that in discussions with an NCDOT engineer about the I-73/74 Rockingham Bypass, he was told that the Bypass segment, currently unfunded, may be funded next year. It was unclear whether this was more from the governor's budget changes, or that the project would be funded in the new Draft 2018-2027 STIP due out next summer.

I thank you for adding the pictures to your website. My next trip up there will be either spring or summer of 2016 and I will check out progress on the (northwest) US 158 side of the segment. -JAC
Interstates I've driven on (Complete and/or partial, no particular order)
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40, 85, 95, 77, 277(NC), 485(NC), 440(NC), 540(NC), 795(NC), 140(NC), 73, 74, 840(NC), 26, 20, 75, 285(GA), 81, 64, 71, 275(OH), 465(IN), 65, 264(VA), 240(NC), 295(VA), 526(SC), 985(GA), 395(FL), 195(FL)

bob7374

I have posted my annual I-73/I-74 in NC Year in Review for 2015. Thanks to all who contributed news and photos to me for my website over the past year: http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2016/01/i-73i-74-year-in-review-2015.html

Happy New Year!

wdcrft63

Quote from: bob7374 on January 01, 2016, 11:49:23 PM
I have posted my annual I-73/I-74 in NC Year in Review for 2015. Thanks to all who contributed news and photos to me for my website over the past year: http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2016/01/i-73i-74-year-in-review-2015.html

Happy New Year!

Thanks...this is a very helpful review of these projects!

bob7374

The NCDOT Board has officially approved the projects added to the State 2016-2025 STIP due to the change by the Governor of the budget formula. This includes adding a project to upgrade of US 74 between Rockingham and Robeson County to interstate standards starting in 2022.

More details in this article: https://yourdailyjournal.com/news/local-news-5/20605/state-board-approves-u-s-74-upgrade

Rothman

Quote from: bob7374 on January 07, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
The NCDOT Board has officially approved the projects added to the State 2016-2025 STIP due to the change by the Governor of the budget formula. This includes adding a project to upgrade of US 74 between Rockingham and Robeson County to interstate standards starting in 2022.

More details in this article: https://yourdailyjournal.com/news/local-news-5/20605/state-board-approves-u-s-74-upgrade

2022?  10 year STIP?

*guffaws*

Around these parts in NY, anything more than two years out is pure fantasy even when we're asked to put something down on paper.  Typically do a four-FFY STIP and a five-SFY capital program.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

noelbotevera

Eh. It's only 60 miles. I remember going out that way a long time ago. I thought they finished the work west of Lumberton.

wdcrft63

Quote from: Rothman on January 08, 2016, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on January 07, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
The NCDOT Board has officially approved the projects added to the State 2016-2025 STIP due to the change by the Governor of the budget formula. This includes adding a project to upgrade of US 74 between Rockingham and Robeson County to interstate standards starting in 2022.

More details in this article: https://yourdailyjournal.com/news/local-news-5/20605/state-board-approves-u-s-74-upgrade

2022?  10 year STIP?

*guffaws*

Around these parts in NY, anything more than two years out is pure fantasy even when we're asked to put something down on paper.  Typically do a four-FFY STIP and a five-SFY capital program.

In NC, highway projects are often delayed (like they are everywhere), but inclusion in the STIP is a big step toward getting a project done.

bob7374

News article indicates new segment of I-73 from PTI Airport to US 220 near the Haw River should be open by the end of this year: http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2016/01/25/new-leg-of-i-73-in-triad-to-open-this-year.html

MazdaStrider

Quote from: bob7374 on January 26, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
News article indicates new segment of I-73 from PTI Airport to US 220 near the Haw River should be open by the end of this year: http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2016/01/25/new-leg-of-i-73-in-triad-to-open-this-year.html


That is a very good news! I cannot wait to drive on the new section

Henry

Two more pieces of the puzzle fall into place! I think it's great that the US 74 upgrade will continue to happen, and I-73 is moving a few miles closer to Roanoke.

But 2025? That's pretty ambitious for a 60-mile project. Perhaps now would be a great time to push that Asheville-Charlotte-Wilmington Interstate!
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noelbotevera

Quote from: Henry on February 02, 2016, 11:21:37 AM
Two more pieces of the puzzle fall into place! I think it's great that the US 74 upgrade will continue to happen, and I-73 is moving a few miles closer to Roanoke.

But 2025? That's pretty ambitious for a 60-mile project. Perhaps now would be a great time to push that Asheville-Charlotte-Wilmington Interstate!
We're dealing with a poor part of NC. They really are pushing hard for the interstate, but the funds aren't there.

wdcrft63

Quote from: bob7374 on January 26, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
News article indicates new segment of I-73 from PTI Airport to US 220 near the Haw River should be open by the end of this year: http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2016/01/25/new-leg-of-i-73-in-triad-to-open-this-year.html

This is a surprise. The NCDOT web site lists the project as slightly ahead of schedule (that's good) but the projected completion date in October 2017, not 2016. Is this a statement that the section between US 220 and NC 68 would open a year sooner?

bob7374

Quote from: wdcrft63 on February 03, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: bob7374 on January 26, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
News article indicates new segment of I-73 from PTI Airport to US 220 near the Haw River should be open by the end of this year: http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2016/01/25/new-leg-of-i-73-in-triad-to-open-this-year.html

This is a surprise. The NCDOT web site lists the project as slightly ahead of schedule (that's good) but the projected completion date is October 2017, not 2016. Is this a statement that the section between US 220 and NC 68 would open a year sooner?
Based on the article, the PTI Airport taxiway won't be completed until later in 2017 and so the completion date cited must be for that part of the project, not the roadway. It is possible though, that they could open the NC 68 and US 220 segment before the rest if there's some delay in the Bryan Blvd. area (though they probably couldn't sign it as I-73 until the rest of the highway opens).

MazdaStrider

Quote from: bob7374 on February 03, 2016, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: wdcrft63 on February 03, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: bob7374 on January 26, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
News article indicates new segment of I-73 from PTI Airport to US 220 near the Haw River should be open by the end of this year: http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2016/01/25/new-leg-of-i-73-in-triad-to-open-this-year.html

This is a surprise. The NCDOT web site lists the project as slightly ahead of schedule (that's good) but the projected completion date is October 2017, not 2016. Is this a statement that the section between US 220 and NC 68 would open a year sooner?
Based on the article, the PTI Airport taxiway won't be completed until later in 2017 and so the completion date cited must be for that part of the project, not the roadway. It is possible though, that they could open the NC 68 and US 220 segment before the rest if there's some delay in the Bryan Blvd. area (though they probably couldn't sign it as I-73 until the rest of the highway opens).


Maybe they are trying to finish building I-73 itself and when it opens, drivers can use it while they are working on the taxiway bridge over the new interstate. Who knows. Either way, I am glad it is almost done. NC 68 traffic has been a nightmare. I plan on checking out the construction sometime this weekend and see if there are some progress going on.

wdcrft63

Meanwhile, down in Columbus County: the February NCDOT letting includes a $4 million project to replace an intersection on US 74 with an overpass. The location is southeast of Evergreen, where the old US 74 intersects the new route. It's another small step in the conversion of US 74 to I-74.



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