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Started by briantroutman, July 01, 2016, 11:44:53 PM

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SEWIGuy

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 28, 2021, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: rellis97 on January 27, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
I'm not sure if this counts, but "Steve Yzerman Dr" runs around the south side of the former Detroit Red Wings hockey arena, Joe Louis Arena in downtown Detroit. Steve Yzerman was captain of the Red Wings and played for the team from 1983 to 2006. However, Joe Louis Arena was recently demolished beginning in the spring of 2019 and was replaced by Little Caesars Arena, the new home of the Detroit Red Wings, on the north end of downtown, at Woodward Avenue (M-1) and the Fisher Freeway (I-75).
Although "Steve Yzerman" was not the name of a business, his name is synonymous with Joe Louis Arena and the Detroit Red Wings.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3254748,-83.0526199,3a,67.1y,100.24h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0UUNtfE29LDjka8MhV40xw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Makes me think of Mike McCarthy Way in Green Bay, WI.  Obviously Lambeau Field hasn't gone anywhere, but with McCarthy now the head coach of the Cowboys makes it slightly comical. 


Vince Lombardi, Mike Holmgren and Mike McCarthy all had streets named after them in Green Bay while they were coaching elsewhere.  It's tradition!!!

The funny thing is that Lombardi is a fairly major street in town.  Holmgren, while not a major thoroughfare, is a longish street with decent traffic.  McCarthy is a non-descript street near the stadium that's about three blocks long.


ethanhopkin14

Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 28, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 28, 2021, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: rellis97 on January 27, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
I'm not sure if this counts, but "Steve Yzerman Dr" runs around the south side of the former Detroit Red Wings hockey arena, Joe Louis Arena in downtown Detroit. Steve Yzerman was captain of the Red Wings and played for the team from 1983 to 2006. However, Joe Louis Arena was recently demolished beginning in the spring of 2019 and was replaced by Little Caesars Arena, the new home of the Detroit Red Wings, on the north end of downtown, at Woodward Avenue (M-1) and the Fisher Freeway (I-75).
Although "Steve Yzerman" was not the name of a business, his name is synonymous with Joe Louis Arena and the Detroit Red Wings.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3254748,-83.0526199,3a,67.1y,100.24h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0UUNtfE29LDjka8MhV40xw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Makes me think of Mike McCarthy Way in Green Bay, WI.  Obviously Lambeau Field hasn't gone anywhere, but with McCarthy now the head coach of the Cowboys makes it slightly comical. 


Vince Lombardi, Mike Holmgren and Mike McCarthy all had streets named after them in Green Bay while they were coaching elsewhere.  It's tradition!!!

The funny thing is that Lombardi is a fairly major street in town.  Holmgren, while not a major thoroughfare, is a longish street with decent traffic.  McCarthy is a non-descript street near the stadium that's about three blocks long.

In the case of Vince Lombardi Dr, didn't that come after he passed? Yes he coached the Redskins at the end of his career, but I don't think it was Vince Lombardi Dr while he was coaching.  Mike McCarthy was still the coach of the Packers when he got his street named after him. 

Maybe I find it comical because my wife is a Packers fan and I am a Cowboys fan.  The hometown of her team has a street named after the head coach of my team. 

SEWIGuy

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 28, 2021, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 28, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 28, 2021, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: rellis97 on January 27, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
I'm not sure if this counts, but "Steve Yzerman Dr" runs around the south side of the former Detroit Red Wings hockey arena, Joe Louis Arena in downtown Detroit. Steve Yzerman was captain of the Red Wings and played for the team from 1983 to 2006. However, Joe Louis Arena was recently demolished beginning in the spring of 2019 and was replaced by Little Caesars Arena, the new home of the Detroit Red Wings, on the north end of downtown, at Woodward Avenue (M-1) and the Fisher Freeway (I-75).
Although "Steve Yzerman" was not the name of a business, his name is synonymous with Joe Louis Arena and the Detroit Red Wings.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3254748,-83.0526199,3a,67.1y,100.24h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0UUNtfE29LDjka8MhV40xw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Makes me think of Mike McCarthy Way in Green Bay, WI.  Obviously Lambeau Field hasn't gone anywhere, but with McCarthy now the head coach of the Cowboys makes it slightly comical. 


Vince Lombardi, Mike Holmgren and Mike McCarthy all had streets named after them in Green Bay while they were coaching elsewhere.  It's tradition!!!

The funny thing is that Lombardi is a fairly major street in town.  Holmgren, while not a major thoroughfare, is a longish street with decent traffic.  McCarthy is a non-descript street near the stadium that's about three blocks long.

In the case of Vince Lombardi Dr, didn't that come after he passed? Yes he coached the Redskins at the end of his career, but I don't think it was Vince Lombardi Dr while he was coaching.  Mike McCarthy was still the coach of the Packers when he got his street named after him. 

Maybe I find it comical because my wife is a Packers fan and I am a Cowboys fan.  The hometown of her team has a street named after the head coach of my team. 


Lombardi Avenue was named for him in 1968 when he served as the Packers GM before he left for Washington.

Sorry about your choice of team.   :sombrero:

kphoger

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briantroutman

Quote from: rellis97 on January 27, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
I'm not sure if this counts, but "Steve Yzerman Dr" ...

I'd say that it doesn't count–for multiple reasons.

On a most basic level, as you observed, the Red Wings haven't left the site. The fact that the physical venue has been rebuilt under a different name isn't surprising or unusual given professional sports team owners' endless appetites for perpetually new playing facilities. By my quick calculation, the average age of a professional sports venue is about 22 years–across the NHL, NBA, NFL, and MLB.

So assuming a facility is brand new when a player starts a career, by the time that player is recognized as a "great" , retires, and has a street named in his/her honor, the likelihood is that the venue has already been replaced–or soon will be. If anything, it would be the opposite scenario which would be surprising: The team still plays in the same stadium decades later!

But even if the Red Wings had left Detroit, I still don't think the example counts. A street named for a person is usually an honor for that individual, not as a signifier that the person actively does business on that street–as is the case for something like "Holiday Inn Drive" .

So for example–let's imagine that a road next to Chrysler headquarters in Auburn Hills was renamed "Lee Iacocca Drive"  in honor of his role in resuscitating the company in the 1980s. And then let's assume that new corporate parent Stellantis goes bankrupt and takes Chrysler down with it–leaving the headquarters empty. The name of "Lee Iacocca Drive"  still honors the man and his role in history, regardless of whether Chrysler is still in operation there.

dvferyance

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Unless they renamed the street there is Jelly belly Lane in Kenosha. Jelly Belly closed there last year.

FightingIrish

If I recall, baseball legend Harmon Killebrew still has a street named after him adjoining the site of the former stadium that made him famous - Met Stadium in Bloomington, MN.

However, the Twins left there in the early 80s for Downtown Minneapolis and the sterile confines of the Metrodome. Met Stadium was eventually bulldozed to build the Mall Of America. However, Killebrew Drive apparently still exists there.

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roadman65

Drane Field Road in Lakeland, FL is named after the former name of the Lakeland- Linder Airport that is located along it.
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GaryV

Quote from: briantroutman on January 28, 2021, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on January 27, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
I'm not sure if this counts, but "Steve Yzerman Dr" ...

I'd say that it doesn't count–for multiple reasons.

On a most basic level, as you observed, the Red Wings haven't left the site. The fact that the physical venue has been rebuilt under a different name isn't surprising or unusual
//snipped//

I'm not sure if you realize, but the Red Wings now share Little Caesars Arena about a mile from the river.  They certainly have moved to a new site.  IT wasn't a rebuild in place.


briantroutman

Quote from: GaryV on January 29, 2021, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on January 28, 2021, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on January 27, 2021, 09:55:06 PM
I'm not sure if this counts, but "Steve Yzerman Dr" ...

I'd say that it doesn't count–for multiple reasons.

On a most basic level, as you observed, the Red Wings haven't left the site. The fact that the physical venue has been rebuilt under a different name isn't surprising or unusual
//snipped//

I'm not sure if you realize, but the Red Wings now share Little Caesars Arena about a mile from the river.  They certainly have moved to a new site.  IT wasn't a rebuild in place.

No, I didn't realize that–I misread. I thought that the new arena replaced the old one more or less the same real estate, which is fairly typical in the build/replace cycle of sports areas. (As an aside: I remember seeing Joe Louis Arena while riding the Detroit People Mover on a visit to the city in February 2019–unaware that it was the virtually eve of its demolition. The train stopped at an oddly vacant platform, no one got on or off, and then we proceeded on our way.)

But even so, I still wouldn't count it under the Lee Iacocca exception I outlined above–an honor for a person and his role in history; not a signifier that he does business here.

planxtymcgillicuddy

Mall Street in Santee, SC, named when the Santee Outlets were at that location-have been shuttered since about 2013 or so
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Quote from: on_wisconsin on November 27, 2021, 02:39:12 PM
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Bruce

With the upcoming closure of the Liberty Orchards factory in Cashmere, WA, Aplets Way (named for their signature product, Aplets & Cotlets) will soon fit the bill.

Source: https://mynorthwest.com/2704881/all-over-the-map-aplets-way-and-other-northwest-brand-name-streets/

AlexandriaVA

Hechinger Drive in Springfield, VA.

Hechinger was a local hardware store chain that went out of business probably 20 years ago. The shopping center on Hechinger Dr was anchored by a store of the same name.

The anchor store is now a Latino/Asian grocery store, and there are a number of ethnic restaurants in the strip mall.

mapman1071

What about roads named for "Fallen Flag" Railroads/Railways
In Arizona there are streets along or near railines
Santa Fe Drive/Avenue/Street
Southern Pacific Drive/Road

ethanhopkin14

Quote from: mapman1071 on March 20, 2021, 01:37:36 AM
What about roads named for "Fallen Flag" Railroads/Railways
In Arizona there are streets along or near railines
Santa Fe Drive/Avenue/Street
Southern Pacific Drive/Road

How about one better.  Roads named for the railroad they paralleled, then the railroad was abandoned and removed.  Railroad Ave. in Pflugerville, TX is one of these.  The railroad has been abandoned so long no one even remembers there was a railroad there.   

roadman65

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Occidental Tourist

Quote from: mapman1071 on March 20, 2021, 01:37:36 AM
What about roads named for "Fallen Flag" Railroads/Railways
In Arizona there are streets along or near railines
Santa Fe Drive/Avenue/Street
Southern Pacific Drive/Road


How about a whole town, i.e., Santa Fe Springs, California, named after the Santa Fe Railroad.

SEWIGuy

How about a city, Truth or Consequences, NM, named after a game show that no longer exists.

jp the roadgeek

Have to bump this because I couldn't think of where to put it.  It's the roadgeek in me that came out while watching sports.  At Citi Field, there is an advertisement for Jake's 58 casino.  After doing some research, I found out it is so named because it is off of Exit 58 on the LIE.  What happens to the business should NYSDOT implement mileage based numbers on I-495 which would renumber Exit 58 to Exit 45 (assuming MP 0 is at the west end of the Midtown Tunnel)?  Would the casino retain the name or have to change to Jake's 45?  If it's the former, you'd have a business named for an Exit that is no longer there.
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kphoger

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 28, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
Have to bump this because I couldn't think of where to put it.  It's the roadgeek in me that came out while watching sports.  At Citi Field, there is an advertisement for Jake's 58 casino.  After doing some research, I found out it is so named because it is off of Exit 58 on the LIE.  What happens to the business should NYSDOT implement mileage based numbers on I-495 which would renumber Exit 58 to Exit 45 (assuming MP 0 is at the west end of the Midtown Tunnel)?  Would the casino retain the name or have to change to Jake's 45?  If it's the former, you'd have a business named for an Exit that is no longer there.

It wouldn't have to do anything.
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jakeroot

Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2021, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 28, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
Have to bump this because I couldn't think of where to put it.  It's the roadgeek in me that came out while watching sports.  At Citi Field, there is an advertisement for Jake's 58 casino.  After doing some research, I found out it is so named because it is off of Exit 58 on the LIE.  What happens to the business should NYSDOT implement mileage based numbers on I-495 which would renumber Exit 58 to Exit 45 (assuming MP 0 is at the west end of the Midtown Tunnel)?  Would the casino retain the name or have to change to Jake's 45?  If it's the former, you'd have a business named for an Exit that is no longer there.

It wouldn't have to do anything.

Wasn't that his first suggestion?

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 28, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
Would the casino retain the name

SectorZ

Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2021, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 28, 2021, 11:35:48 PM
Have to bump this because I couldn't think of where to put it.  It's the roadgeek in me that came out while watching sports.  At Citi Field, there is an advertisement for Jake's 58 casino.  After doing some research, I found out it is so named because it is off of Exit 58 on the LIE.  What happens to the business should NYSDOT implement mileage based numbers on I-495 which would renumber Exit 58 to Exit 45 (assuming MP 0 is at the west end of the Midtown Tunnel)?  Would the casino retain the name or have to change to Jake's 45?  If it's the former, you'd have a business named for an Exit that is no longer there.

It wouldn't have to do anything.

If they think like many people on this forum do, they'll compel themselves to change it.

It would bug me if I owned it...

mrsman

Hughes Way in El Segundo, CA.  Led to one of the worksites of the Hughes Aircraft Co.  (Several plants existed all over the area.)  The division was bought out by Raytheon more than 20 years ago.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.908388,-118.3917429,3a,15y,344.38h,92.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGs-cs-JQEshRuWN0UK78TA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DGs-cs-JQEshRuWN0UK78TA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D17.622663%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

Of course, all over Southern California there are other monuments to the many aerospace companies that had facilites there.  Almost all of them have since merged in with larger companies like Lockheed, Boeing, or Raytheon.  Here's Douglas Center (named after Douglas Aircraft) in Long Beach that now leads to a Boeing facility:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8303573,-118.1424923,3a,75y,51h,89.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqCnWla5OTgVP7ozRJqEQoQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DqCnWla5OTgVP7ozRJqEQoQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D144.58269%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

The names for sports heroes is quite interesting and while the individuals aren't businesses, they are generally named in areas near the stadiums/arenas where they became famous.

Hank Aaron Dr. in Atlanta.  The team moved to Cumberland, GA, but the street in Atlanta still named for him.  (There is also a street near the new stadium named for Hank.)

Here is something interesting.  While I was growing up in LA in the 1980's, the Lakers played in Inglewood (Forum) and the Clippers played in Downtown LA (Sports Arena).  Then for a while both teams have been playing Downtown LA at the Staples Center.  Now, the Clippers are building a new arena in Inglewood, about a mile away from the Forum.  Anyway, to bring it back on topic, Inglewood has a Kareem Court near the Forum and a Pincay Drive (named after a jockey).  Hollywood Park horseracing track was torn down and the SoFi stadiuim put in its place.  And of course, the Lakers are no longer there either.  Perhaps there is some room to name a street after a star football player.

RoadRebel

There is still a "Hive Drive" where the former Charlotte Hornets used to play before being moved. The Charlottehas since been torn down and remains an empty oval field. It's a shame, it wasn't even that old at the time.

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There is also Westinghouse Blvd. IIRC, Siemens is in the old Westinghouse plant now.
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