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I-5 Rose Quarter (Portland) Widening Project

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Sub-Urbanite:

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--- Quote from: kernals12 on February 11, 2022, 01:23:48 PM ---Governor Kate Brown has secured the blessing of Metro President Lynn Peterson and Portland City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty for the Rose Quarter widening.

https://www.wweek.com/news/state/2022/02/10/gov-kate-brown-wins-agreement-from-local-elected-officials-for-rose-quarter-project-with-highway-caps/

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That article kind of gives me mixed thoughts. They are wanting to reduce the median size to ensure additional lanes canít be added? Thatís utterly ridiculous.

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I mean, here's the deal. The opponents are going to say "that center median is a SECRET ODOT LANE AND THIS 8-LANE PROJECT MUST DIE" if they build the 12 foot median. It takes some air out of the climate histrionics without actually affecting the project. And, let's be honest: There's no extra lane going in there ever anyway. Not unless Portland has a major shift in politics in the next half-century.

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Portlanders voted against a tax increase in November 2020 meant to expand transit. They are going ahead with widening the I-5 Bridge over the Columbia to 10 lanes. Portland's politics are already shifting.

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I would be stunned if the Columbia River bridge gets built at 10 lanes. And it's not just the electorate. The transportation advocacy community has a ton of power here. It doesn't translate to ballot measures (beyond Portland proper) but it still connects with the people who get elected into office.

compdude787:

--- Quote from: Plutonic Panda on February 13, 2022, 03:48:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: kernals12 on February 11, 2022, 01:23:48 PM ---Governor Kate Brown has secured the blessing of Metro President Lynn Peterson and Portland City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty for the Rose Quarter widening.

https://www.wweek.com/news/state/2022/02/10/gov-kate-brown-wins-agreement-from-local-elected-officials-for-rose-quarter-project-with-highway-caps/

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That article kind of gives me mixed thoughts. They are wanting to reduce the median size to ensure additional lanes canít be added? Thatís utterly ridiculous.

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Nothing wrong with that. I highly doubt an additional lane will be built for at least 40-50 years, if ever, by which time the whole road will need to be rebuilt anyway. And besides, this project is already getting too expensive, so I'm all for anything to cut costs.


--- Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on February 15, 2022, 12:41:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: kernals12 on February 14, 2022, 07:20:32 PM ---
Portlanders voted against a tax increase in November 2020 meant to expand transit. They are going ahead with widening the I-5 Bridge over the Columbia to 10 lanes. Portland's politics are already shifting.

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I would be stunned if the Columbia River bridge gets built at 10 lanes. And it's not just the electorate. The transportation advocacy community has a ton of power here. It doesn't translate to ballot measures (beyond Portland proper) but it still connects with the people who get elected into office.

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Yeah, if they don't plan on widening I-5 between I-405 and the Columbia River, then it doesn't make sense to make it 10 lanes. Otherwise the 6-lane section through north Portland will just become a bottleneck. Making it 8 lanes is fine, especially considering that the traffic counts are 130,000 vpd. Oh, and adding light rail on the bridge is something that should definitely happen. Hopefully this time people in Clark County won't throw a big fit over it.

kernals12:
The Portland City Council has given its blessing!

Plutonic Panda:
New survey is up and boy howdy are the anti car crowd up in arms Iíve been getting slammed on Twitter with death threats and endless ad hominem attacks for vocalizing my support for this project.

https://i5rosequarter.org/

kernals12:

--- Quote from: Plutonic Panda on August 30, 2022, 05:58:24 PM ---New survey is up and boy howdy are the anti car crowd up in arms Iíve been getting slammed on Twitter with death threats and endless ad hominem attacks for vocalizing my support for this project.

https://i5rosequarter.org/

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They're lashing out because they're losing.

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