Interstate control cities have gotten smaller over the years

[SEWIGuy]

I don't think Green Bay was ever larger than Milwaukee even during the time of the Wisconsin Territory (1836-1848).  But before that it was at one point in time, but that was when both had around 1,000 residents. 

[Flint1979]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

[hobsini2]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

That is true. However, Green Bay was an established settlement long before Milwaukee. At some point, probably 1820-1840ish, Green Bay was larger just because it was an older settlement. And keep in mind, Milwaukee was 3 settlements (Juneautown, Kilbourntown and Walker's Point) until 1845.  Something else I learned was all 3 founders of each of those settlements did serve as mayor of Milwaukee at some point after the city merged.

[SEWIGuy]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

Green Bay will be overtaken by Kenosha as the third largest city in Wisconsin within the next couple of years.

[Flint1979]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

Green Bay will be overtaken by Kenosha as the third largest city in Wisconsin within the next couple of years.

Dang really? I see they are both growing at about a half percent over the last 10 years.

[SEWIGuy]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

Green Bay will be overtaken by Kenosha as the third largest city in Wisconsin within the next couple of years.

Dang really? I see they are both growing at about a half percent over the last 10 years.

We will see what the 2020 Census says, but my guess is that Kenosha is growing faster. 

[Flint1979]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

Green Bay will be overtaken by Kenosha as the third largest city in Wisconsin within the next couple of years.

Dang really? I see they are both growing at about a half percent over the last 10 years.

We will see what the 2020 Census says, but my guess is that Kenosha is growing faster.

That should be out soon I think. I was in Madison last summer and noticed how much that city has grown over the last 20 years. I have been through there in the last 20 years and have spent the night along the Interstate there but that was the first time I had been into the city in about that long.

[Flint1979]

Going back to 1860 Green Bay has never been bigger than Milwaukee. In 1860 Green Bay had 2,275 while Milwaukee had 45,246. Green Bay wouldn't even match that population until 1940 when Milwaukee had almost 600,000 people. Green Bay didn't even hit 100,000 in population until 2000.

That is true. However, Green Bay was an established settlement long before Milwaukee. At some point, probably 1820-1840ish, Green Bay was larger just because it was an older settlement. And keep in mind, Milwaukee was 3 settlements (Juneautown, Kilbourntown and Walker's Point) until 1845.  Something else I learned was all 3 founders of each of those settlements did serve as mayor of Milwaukee at some point after the city merged.

That's how it is on the Great Lakes. Like Detroit was founded in 1701 and incorporated in 1806. I was talking to someone the other day about how old of a city Detroit really is celebrating the big 320 year mark this year. Chicago wasn't founded until 1780 and wasn't incorporated until 1833. It doesn't surprise me that Green Bay is older than Milwaukee because of how travel was back then.

[DTComposer]

1990
WY: Casper > Cheyenne

Thank you, fixed!

Think you meant to switch these - looks like Cheyenne has been bigger than Casper in every census except for 1980.

I would be shocked if any city in Utah has ever been larger than Salt Lake City.

[bandit957]

If Allentown isn't a control city on I-78 west of New York, maybe it should be. Probably the only thing stopping it is that people will see it and start singing the Billy Joel song.

[SkyPesos]

If Allentown isn't a control city on I-78 west of New York, maybe it should be. Probably the only thing stopping it is that people will see it and start singing the Billy Joel song.

NJ seems to use every little town as possible on I-78 west, and they try to avoid out of state controls too from the looks. I see Clinton used more than any of the Lehigh Valley cities in the NJ side of the NYC metro area, and west of Clinton, it's either "Philipsburg" or "Pennsylvania" instead of any of the three main Lehigh Valley cities.
I haven't looked at all major freeway to freeway interchanges, as NJ's interchanges are a hell to trace around on Google Maps to find the correct ramp. So maybe a Lehigh Valley city is used at one of those freeway to freeway interchanges.

[amroad17]

^ Yes.  At the I-78/I-287 interchange, the control city for I-78 West from I-287 is Easton, PA--not Allentown (which is what it should be).
https://goo.gl/maps/CkvhD3ZPKTHspycAA

However, at the same interchange, the I-78 WB pull-through sign has Phillipsburg.
https://goo.gl/maps/UnhPoyKpcKwRBSbDA

Consistency?

[Occidental Tourist]

If Allentown isn't a control city on I-78 west of New York, maybe it should be. Probably the only thing stopping it is that people will see it and start singing the Billy Joel song.

If Allentown was a control city, that would inevitably lead to people getting lost on I-78 searching for a Pennsylvania they'd never found.

[hobsini2]

If Allentown isn't a control city on I-78 west of New York, maybe it should be. Probably the only thing stopping it is that people will see it and start singing the Billy Joel song.

If Allentown was a control city, that would inevitably lead to people getting lost on I-78 searching for a Pennsylvania they'd never found.

https://media.giphy.com/media/nUECVDZSR1xmpxBcHS/giphy.gif

[Roadgeekteen]

If Allentown isn't a control city on I-78 west of New York, maybe it should be. Probably the only thing stopping it is that people will see it and start singing the Billy Joel song.

If Allentown was a control city, that would inevitably lead to people getting lost on I-78 searching for a Pennsylvania they'd never found.

I don't get it.

[Big John]

If Allentown isn't a control city on I-78 west of New York, maybe it should be. Probably the only thing stopping it is that people will see it and start singing the Billy Joel song.

If Allentown was a control city, that would inevitably lead to people getting lost on I-78 searching for a Pennsylvania they'd never found.

I don't get it.

This Billy Joel song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHnJp0oyOxs

[achilles765]

Back to the topic of control cities getting smaller, I've noticed here in Texas the newer interstates have mostly small control cities. Granted they are all incomplete.
Like I know two of the the control cities for interstate 2 are Harlingen and McAllen and interstate 69 in Houston uses the old control cities from us 59: Victoria and Cleveland. I think the southbound control city for ih69 should be Corpus Christi and the northbound should be Texarkana

[hotdogPi]

Like I know two of the the control cities for interstate 2 are Harlingen and McAllen

The Rio Grande Valley is a whole bunch of medium-sized cities with no single large one (on the American side), similar to Northwest Arkansas and Upstate South Carolina. McAllen is a good choice.

[hobsini2]

Back to the topic of control cities getting smaller, I've noticed here in Texas the newer interstates have mostly small control cities. Granted they are all incomplete.
Like I know two of the the control cities for interstate 2 are Harlingen and McAllen and interstate 69 in Houston uses the old control cities from us 59: Victoria and Cleveland. I think the southbound control city for ih69 should be Corpus Christi and the northbound should be Texarkana

Victoria is big enough to warrant it being a control city before Corpus Christi.  It also is a major US route junction city.

[Roadgeekteen]

Back to the topic of control cities getting smaller, I've noticed here in Texas the newer interstates have mostly small control cities. Granted they are all incomplete.
Like I know two of the the control cities for interstate 2 are Harlingen and McAllen and interstate 69 in Houston uses the old control cities from us 59: Victoria and Cleveland. I think the southbound control city for ih69 should be Corpus Christi and the northbound should be Texarkana

Victoria is big enough to warrant it being a control city before Corpus Christi.  It also is a major US route junction city.

It's not the worst choice but I would personally not use it.

[achilles765]

Like I know two of the the control cities for interstate 2 are Harlingen and McAllen

The Rio Grande Valley is a whole bunch of medium-sized cities with no single large one (on the American side), similar to Northwest Arkansas and Upstate South Carolina. McAllen is a good choice.

Yeah. I actually kinda agree. The issue is that none of these newer interstates with the exception of 69 go through any really major cities. My husbands dads family is all from the valley. My husband himself is from Edinburgh. I like it down there; we are planning to go visit for thanksgiving this year.
But you're right about it being a collection of smaller cities. McAllen and Harlingen make sense. For I 2. I'm sure eventually it will also include Laredo and Brownsville when it's complete.