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Title: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
I have a Los Angeles County map from ACSC, Automobile Club of Southern California, and it shows below Gorman, at Interstate 5 under construction. However, it doesn't show Interstate 5 under construction in the Santa Clarita Valley because it was published in 1967.  I usually try to purchase those types of old street and road maps from ACSC in the 1960s and 1970s on E-bay, am I missing something due to the cataloging year by year basis?
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: NE2 on September 18, 2016, 04:58:58 PM
what
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 05:05:13 PM
You just missed the subject matter, NE2.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: Quillz on September 18, 2016, 05:05:17 PM
Many of the maps published by the Division of Highways showed proposed interstate highway corridors, including Interstate 5.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 05:08:11 PM
Quote from: Quillz on September 18, 2016, 05:05:17 PM
Many of the maps published by the Division of Highways showed proposed interstate highway corridors, including Interstate 5.

I am talking about the Santa Clarita Valley area around Newhall and Valencia, old U.S 99 was converted into Interstate 5 in my own stopping grounds, however ACSC didn't show that portion of the Golden State Freeway under construction in 1966, but completed in 1967 to near Castaic at the CA 126 interchange.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: Quillz on September 18, 2016, 05:10:43 PM
Well I guess ACSC only chose to map completed highways. Other mapmakers did their own thing.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: Quillz on September 18, 2016, 05:10:43 PM
Well I guess ACSC only chose to map completed highways. Other mapmakers did their own thing.

Especially on 4 lane expressways, Quill?  The portion of Interstate 5 from Castaic to near Gorman was under construction on the same map I purchased from E-bay, from the ACSC.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: coatimundi on September 18, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
Send that map back with demands for a refund...

As I understand it, maps typically showed rputes under construction to indicate the possibility that the road may be open since we're usually published toward the beginning of the year, thus meaning that data was typically from the previous year. I would think AAA would be somewhat conservative in that respect, not wanting to show a more desirable route where one does not actually exist.

But send it back. Obviously a fake.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: coatimundi on September 18, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
Send that map back with demands for a refund...

As I understand it, maps typically showed rputes under construction to indicate the possibility that the road may be open since we're usually published toward the beginning of the year, thus meaning that data was typically from the previous year. I would think AAA would be somewhat conservative in that respect, not wanting to show a more desirable route where one does not actually exist.

But send it back. Obviously a fake.

Why would it be a fake, when there is a copyright notice on the map and it came from ACSC? Other Los Angeles Freeways were under construction too, this was not a fake map.  AAA and ACSC I think a a bit seperate. Coatimundi when it comes down to their cartography.
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: compdude787 on September 18, 2016, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: coatimundi on September 18, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
Send that map back with demands for a refund...

As I understand it, maps typically showed rputes under construction to indicate the possibility that the road may be open since we're usually published toward the beginning of the year, thus meaning that data was typically from the previous year. I would think AAA would be somewhat conservative in that respect, not wanting to show a more desirable route where one does not actually exist.

But send it back. Obviously a fake.

Why would it be a fake, when there is a copyright notice on the map and it came from ACSC? Other Los Angeles Freeways were under construction too, this was not a fake map.  AAA and ACSC I think a a bit seperate. Coatimundi when it comes down to their cartography.

Don't you know sarcasm when you read it?
Title: Re: I wonder why ACSC didn't have a Los Angeles County map showing Interstate 5 U.C.
Post by: sdmichael on September 18, 2016, 11:46:40 PM
Quote from: ACSCmapcollector on September 18, 2016, 05:08:11 PM
Quote from: Quillz on September 18, 2016, 05:05:17 PM
Many of the maps published by the Division of Highways showed proposed interstate highway corridors, including Interstate 5.

I am talking about the Santa Clarita Valley area around Newhall and Valencia, old U.S 99 was converted into Interstate 5 in my own stopping grounds, however ACSC didn't show that portion of the Golden State Freeway under construction in 1966, but completed in 1967 to near Castaic at the CA 126 interchange.

I-5 was built in segments in the Santa Clarita Valley. From Castaic to Castaic Junction, it was 1967. Castaic Junction to Saugus Junction - 1964, Saugus Junction to Calgrove Blvd - 1968. Calgrove Blvd to the top of Weldon Summit - 1967.