What's the timetable for the new I-57/I-294 Interchange?
Did a quick search, but didn't find any dates. I did find this though:
http://www.illinoistollway.com/portal/page?_pageid=133,2045125&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL
Its about time, i thought they should have done this years ago. Now i don't have to go way down to 1-80 to get to 1-57.
An article in the Joliet Herald-News from Nov 23, 2008 stated that the interchange is due to be open by 2013. I would expect that is if funding is found.
I wonder how they will implement the tolls on the ramps on that one.... :-/
I mean, if you look at the other major interchanges on several tollways in the Chicago area, they are all very drawn out and feature long ramps....
In the book Legendary Route 66 there is mention in the caption next to a picture of downtown Springfield, IL, on page 179 of a plan by the governor in the mid 1960's to reroute I-55 away from the US 66 corridor and go from Lincoln to Joliet via Peoria and maybe LaSalle.
The interchange is scheduled to be partially opened this fall.
Quote from: US71 on January 20, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
What's the timetable for the new I-57/I-294 Interchange?
It's damn near ready for Phase I (Nbd I-57 to Nbd I-294 and Sbd I-294 to Sbd I-57) to be open soon. The ramps are all in place, and it appears the signage is being put up. Got a photo of one of the signs (covered up) today.
Quote from: Brandon on August 27, 2014, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 20, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
What's the timetable for the new I-57/I-294 Interchange?
It's damn near ready for Phase I (Nbd I-57 to Nbd I-294 and Sbd I-294 to Sbd I-57) to be open soon. The ramps are all in place, and it appears the signage is being put up. Got a photo of one of the signs (covered up) today.
Will they eventually put in place a fully directional interchange, or is it just going to be 57 N to 294 N, 57 S to 294 S, 294 N to 57 N, 294 S to 57 S?
Quote from: mrsman on August 29, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 27, 2014, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 20, 2009, 10:21:33 PM
What's the timetable for the new I-57/I-294 Interchange?
It's damn near ready for Phase I (Nbd I-57 to Nbd I-294 and Sbd I-294 to Sbd I-57) to be open soon. The ramps are all in place, and it appears the signage is being put up. Got a photo of one of the signs (covered up) today.
Will they eventually put in place a fully directional interchange, or is it just going to be 57 N to 294 N, 57 S to 294 S, 294 N to 57 N, 294 S to 57 S?
It will be a 3/4 interchange.
N 57 -> N 294 / S 294 -> S 57 (direct flyovers)
N 294 -> N 57 / S 57 -> S 294 (direct flyovers)
S 57 -> N 294 / S 294 -> N 57 (will involve a loop ramp)
N 57 -> S 294 / N 294 -> S 57 will be handled by I-80.
And here are some recent (Wednesday 8/27) photographs.
Covered sign before interchange (I-57 N):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4568_zpsbd0dc76e.jpg&hash=ff4254cbaa92f507ba1634571e06198a4a4ff7be) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4568_zpsbd0dc76e.jpg.html)
Ramps:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4569_zpsff93582b.jpg&hash=634b1b9e93b9b94fafbf8560c087ed853825eb09) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4569_zpsff93582b.jpg.html)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4570_zps56361e92.jpg&hash=d1b526a07ecbf3963d00ac620cbde212c1e905e7) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4570_zps56361e92.jpg.html)
soon it wil open :b :-/
Google maps show the final tamp configuration on the zoom in
It has been reported that the first phase of the interchange will be opened next month.
Quote from: catofdar on January 27, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
I wonder how they will implement the tolls on the ramps on that one.... :-/
It's going to be electronic tolling only.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 10, 2014, 12:09:44 AM
Quote from: catofdar on January 27, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
I wonder how they will implement the tolls on the ramps on that one.... :-/
It's going to be electronic tolling only.
And an E-Z pass is required. (just to clarify)
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 10, 2014, 04:50:37 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 10, 2014, 12:09:44 AM
Quote from: catofdar on January 27, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
I wonder how they will implement the tolls on the ramps on that one.... :-/
It's going to be electronic tolling only.
And an E-Z pass is required. (just to clarify)
But not necessary. It is also toll-by-plate as long as you pay within 7 days.
Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2014, 06:27:06 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 10, 2014, 04:50:37 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 10, 2014, 12:09:44 AM
Quote from: catofdar on January 27, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
I wonder how they will implement the tolls on the ramps on that one.... :-/
It's going to be electronic tolling only.
And an E-Z pass is required. (just to clarify)
But not necessary. It is also toll-by-plate as long as you pay within 7 days.
Not that it matters, but there will be 30 days to pay until January 1.
I'm going to check it out the next time I return to Chicago!
:-(
Almost ready to open!
The signs are up.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4822_zpsd5d866ce.jpg&hash=47aaa31f4bb055f618b869290512f11ecf709271) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4822_zpsd5d866ce.jpg.html)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4823_zpsf7eaf4c7.jpg&hash=1ed490033f6554eb07fcab3cc87abc825f9ee88d) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4823_zpsf7eaf4c7.jpg.html)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4824_zpse922441f.jpg&hash=b0f6599575ed017d59e43fbd1096b44a383b0225) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4824_zpse922441f.jpg.html)
And a lot more user friendly than some other tollways - I-Pass or pay on-line.
Woah, when did ISTHA learn how to make signs that use Clearview the correct* way?
* The only thing that one can point out is that "147" in 147th Street is in Clearview, but frankly I'm not sure that this is in the FHWA's mandate on whether or not destinations using numbers should be in FHWA or Clearview.
The signs are up on I-294 south as well, with the same I-PASS or PAY ONLINE add-ons. I drove through there today, which is why I don't have pictures to post.
Quote from: Zeffy on October 17, 2014, 07:00:36 PM
Woah, when did ISTHA learn how to make signs that use Clearview the correct* way?
The signs in the photo above your post are on I-57, which means whoever did the signing plans for the Toll Authority also had to get IDOT's blessing on the design.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 22, 2014, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 17, 2014, 07:00:36 PM
Woah, when did ISTHA learn how to make signs that use Clearview the correct* way?
The signs in the photo above your post are on I-57, which means whoever did the signing plans for the Toll Authority also had to get IDOT's blessing on the design.
But, they are very distinctly ISTHA in design, not IDOT. The location of the "TOLL" banner gives it away.
There's a temporary VMS (the ones IDOT uses for construction) on I-80 leading to the I-57 interchange informing drivers that the ramp from 57 to 294 is open. I wonder if that will ever become permanent signage in the future?
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Here is the article from the Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-tri-state-i57-interchange-opens-1026-20141025-story.html
One guy had posted a video on Youtube going southbound on I-294 to I-57 south
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY907J-aAbQ
Odd that the BGS doesn't read "I-57 SOUTH".
And I don't think the white "I-PASS or PAY ONLINE" panel needs to be that big. Makes the signs needlessly tall.
Quote from: Stratuscaster on November 05, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
Odd that the BGS doesn't read "I-57 SOUTH".
I suppose you can get to I-57 north by U-turning at US 6. But it's probably a cockup, since the mileage sign at 0:16 does say south.
Quote from: Stratuscaster on November 05, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
Odd that the BGS doesn't read "I-57 SOUTH".
And I don't think the white "I-PASS or PAY ONLINE" panel needs to be that big. Makes the signs needlessly tall.
It's intended to be a ramp for both I-57 north and south eventually.
I drove the North 57 to North 294 ramp last night (at midnight because I was bored), and I was surprised at how long it takes to merge onto 294. I may be estimating wrong, but there was a lot of distance traveling parallel to 294 before you got to the toll cameras, and then another fairly long bit until you merged. I'm not sure what engineering went into that decision.
Past that, I had the road all to myself, and I thought the ramp was nice and smooth. There's nothing quite like driving on a brand new road.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 07, 2014, 01:29:04 PM
I drove the North 57 to North 294 ramp last night (at midnight because I was bored), and I was surprised at how long it takes to merge onto 294. I may be estimating wrong, but there was a lot of distance traveling parallel to 294 before you got to the toll cameras, and then another fairly long bit until you merged. I'm not sure what engineering went into that decision.
Past that, I had the road all to myself, and I thought the ramp was nice and smooth. There's nothing quite like driving on a brand new road.
There will be a ramp from I-57 south joining that ramp in the future. Both will use the same toll plaza. The other part is just ISTHA's MO with merges. They're longer in case the freeway being merged into is widened, and for a greater distance to get up to speed.
I saw one more video, filmed at nightime, on the flyover-ramp from I-57 Northbound to I-294.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcCjqPdO-vc
Quote from: Brandon on November 07, 2014, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 07, 2014, 01:29:04 PM
I drove the North 57 to North 294 ramp last night (at midnight because I was bored), and I was surprised at how long it takes to merge onto 294. I may be estimating wrong, but there was a lot of distance traveling parallel to 294 before you got to the toll cameras, and then another fairly long bit until you merged. I'm not sure what engineering went into that decision.
Past that, I had the road all to myself, and I thought the ramp was nice and smooth. There's nothing quite like driving on a brand new road.
There will be a ramp from I-57 south joining that ramp in the future. Both will use the same toll plaza. The other part is just ISTHA's MO with merges. They're longer in case the freeway being merged into is widened, and for a greater distance to get up to speed.
That is nice for trucks as well, as it allows us to get onto the road with a bit more speed and/or slow down to merge properly.
The Illinois Department of Transportation in partnership with the Illinois Tollway is planning to construct a $600 million improvement involving Interstate 57, Interstate 294 and Illinois Route 83 (147th Street). The improvement will consist of constructing a full interchange with ramps between Interstate 57 and Interstate 294, improvements to 147th Street including a median to accommodate left turn lanes between Kedzie Avenue and Western Avenue/Dixie Highway, and construction of a partial interchange with ramps between Interstate 294 at 147th Street. Interstate 57 at Interstate 294 is one of two locations in the country where two Interstates meet without connecting. The completed Interstate 57/294 Interchange Project will connect these important Interstate highways as well as reduce travel times and congestion on local routes that are being used to facilitate the Interstate to Interstate linkage. It is anticipated the construction project will consist of up to 11 contracts to be implemented over a number of years.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idot.illinois.gov%2FAssets%2Fuploads%2FIDOT-Projects%2FDistrict-1%2FI57-294-Interchange%2Fimages%2Fnewlayout2.jpg&hash=0b739707295e44799c2a5df6085670721a7a1445)
Looks like now: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.618156,-87.6924232,15z/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: I-90 on May 14, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
The Illinois Department of Transportation in partnership with the Illinois Tollway is planning to construct a $600 million improvement involving Interstate 57, Interstate 294 and Illinois Route 83 (147th Street). The improvement will consist of constructing a full interchange with ramps between Interstate 57 and Interstate 294, improvements to 147th Street including a median to accommodate left turn lanes between Kedzie Avenue and Western Avenue/Dixie Highway, and construction of a partial interchange with ramps between Interstate 294 at 147th Street. Interstate 57 at Interstate 294 is one of two locations in the country where two Interstates meet without connecting. The completed Interstate 57/294 Interchange Project will connect these important Interstate highways as well as reduce travel times and congestion on local routes that are being used to facilitate the Interstate to Interstate linkage. It is anticipated the construction project will consist of up to 11 contracts to be implemented over a number of years.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idot.illinois.gov%2FAssets%2Fuploads%2FIDOT-Projects%2FDistrict-1%2FI57-294-Interchange%2Fimages%2Fnewlayout2.jpg&hash=0b739707295e44799c2a5df6085670721a7a1445)
Looks like now: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.618156,-87.6924232,15z/data=!3m1!1e3
I am assuming your point is that it dosen't look like what was planned in the picture.
Already a thread on it:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=98.msg2003790#msg2003790 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=98.msg2003790#msg2003790)
Merging --sso
I love bumping a 5 year old thread...but news, as reported by the Chicago Tribune and The Daily Southtown https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/ct-sta-tristate-tollway-interstate-57-ramps-st-0908-20220907-c5tn3amp2reozcuotx72netrka-story.html
Quote from: Chicago Tribune
It was called "the interchange that time forgot" and a rarity in the nation's transportation system, with two interstates crossing over each other but not connecting.
But sometime this weekend, the final phase linking Interstate 57 with Interstate 294, better known as the Tri-State Tollway, will open to traffic, capping a yearslong project that was completed ahead of schedule and could also spur new economic development in communities near the interchange.
The first ramps opened in October 2014, allowing drivers heading north on I-57 to continue north on the Tri-State, and for southbound Tri-State vehicles to access I-57 heading south.
Also completed were ramps from the southbound Tri-State to 147th Street, and from 147th to the Tri-State's northbound lanes.
Four new ramps will open overnight on Saturday leading into early Sunday, and will allow vehicles traveling south on I-57 to access I-294 either northbound or southbound, and Tri-State traffic heading north or south to jump onto northbound I-57, according to the Illinois Toll Highway Authority.
Like the existing ramps, electronic tolling will be in place, with vehicles using I-Pass or E-ZPass transponders being charged 75 cents, and a fee of $1.50 for vehicles paying unpaid tolls online within 14 days.
Looks like the interchange will open fully this weekend!
https://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/20184/1188102/20220906+-+Tri-State+Tollway+%28I-294%29_I-57+Interchange+Ramps+Complete%2C+Scheduled+to+Open+to+Traffic+on+September+11.pdf/c446e0b4-876f-29fe-8837-b12b6d0ab670?t=1662504105798
I'll post one from the Illinois Tollway website.
I still remember my dad cursing at the fact that he couldn't get on I-294 from I-57 back in 1974.
"Whoever made the decision to engineer it like this should be shot" he said back then.
Well dad, they finally fixed it. Sorry you didn't live long enough to see it. (or drive it).
Is there a plan to build the last two ramps at some point in the near future? Or are they not needed right away?
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Well, sure, that's why I think it's understandable.
Nevertheless, I am a bit fan of the interchange standards for interstates, in particular:
Quote from: Interstate Standards 2016, page 6
Each interchange shall provide for all traffic movements.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason
If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 08, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason
If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful
Both routes have interchanges with 159th/US 6, so there's your redundancy without spending a dime. Not worth millions to cut 2 minutes off that time.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 08, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason
If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful
Both routes have interchanges with 159th/US 6, so there's your redundancy without spending a dime. Not worth millions to cut 2 minutes off that time.
159th St/US 6 was the argument against building any interchange between the two to begin with!
I used 159th St multiple times to make the 57/294 connection before the interchange was built
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 08, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason
If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful
Both routes have interchanges with 159th/US 6, so there's your redundancy without spending a dime. Not worth millions to cut 2 minutes off that time.
Breezewood is that way and building an direct link will remove millions from local funds.
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
I-294 N to I-57 S
I-57 N to I-294 S
(https://i.imgur.com/mv3V920.png)
Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
I agree that anyone making those movements will have already passed a point where those could be made more efficiently. However, I just poked around on Street View, and don't see any signs on the westbound tollway prior to the 80/294 split that direct you to any part of I-57. Admittedly I didn't "drive" everywhere, or check all past images. Are there any such signs I missed?
Quote from: davewiecking on September 08, 2022, 07:26:22 PM
I agree that anyone making those movements will have already passed a point where those could be made more efficiently. However, I just poked around on Street View, and don't see any signs on the westbound tollway prior to the 80/294 split that direct you to any part of I-57. Admittedly I didn't "drive" everywhere, or check all past images. Are there any such signs I missed?
It ain't much, but there's something. https://goo.gl/maps/cASjEe2QdopnLTq4A
In practice, if you're trying to get to I-57 using that sign alone, it's already too late since there's a huge amount of truck traffic exiting onto I-80 in my experience. But I doubt that's a huge issue; just about everybody trying to get to I-57 is either using navigation or already knows there isn't a direct connection.
Quote from: pianocello on September 08, 2022, 07:42:45 PM
Quote from: davewiecking on September 08, 2022, 07:26:22 PM
I agree that anyone making those movements will have already passed a point where those could be made more efficiently. However, I just poked around on Street View, and don't see any signs on the westbound tollway prior to the 80/294 split that direct you to any part of I-57. Admittedly I didn't "drive" everywhere, or check all past images. Are there any such signs I missed?
It ain't much, but there's something. https://goo.gl/maps/cASjEe2QdopnLTq4A
In practice, if you're trying to get to I-57 using that sign alone, it's already too late since there's a huge amount of truck traffic exiting onto I-80 in my experience. But I doubt that's a huge issue; just about everybody trying to get to I-57 is either using navigation or already knows there isn't a direct connection.
Thanks. That's, um, fairly useless!