New Jersey Turnpike

[Alps]

Every Rest Stop on the Turnpike, Ranked
https://www.eater.com/2017/6/13/15783216/best-new-jersey-turnpike-rest-stop-service-plaza

The writer loses all credibility by saying the Turnpike's signage is atrocious. Had he limited that comment to the unfortunate new MUTCD-style signs, I'd agree with him.

You mean the compliant signs that lack errors? Are they atrocious on all the other highways too?

[SignBridge]

Well 1995hoo it was actually a her; Helen Rosner was the name on the story. But yes, I agree with you about her comment on the signing. I had to wonder if we were talking about the same Turnpike, because NJTA's old sign system was quite good, and the new MUTCD signing could be good as well with some minor changes.

[1995hoo]

Well 1995hoo it was actually a her; Helen Rosner was the name on the story. ...

Heh. Obviously I hadn't bothered to look at the author's name, hence why I used "he" by default!

[D-Dey65]

The one thing I've liked about the Walt Whitman Service Plaza is that there's a really cute brunette who works in the convenience store. As for the service areas in general, I really wish they'd make better use of those former tiny Howard Johnson's that they've closed off for decades.

Anyone think the two service areas on the Newark Bay Extension should be rebuilt?

[jeffandnicole]

Anyone think the two service areas on the Newark Bay Extension should be rebuilt?

If there's a lot of people running out of gas along that extension because of the long distances between service areas or exits with gas stations, yes. Other than that, no.  They're not needed for such a short stretch of highway.  As it is, the NJ Turnpike's service areas are closer together than on any other Turnpike system.

[ixnay]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

[roadman65]

Anyone think the two service areas on the Newark Bay Extension should be rebuilt?

If there's a lot of people running out of gas along that extension because of the long distances between service areas or exits with gas stations, yes. Other than that, no.  They're not needed for such a short stretch of highway.  As it is, the NJ Turnpike's service areas are closer together than on any other Turnpike system.

How come the Alexander Hamilton Service Area is still open?  Its way too close to the Vince Lombardi and even after the Lombardi Area was constructed (to allow the Western Spur to have a service area too) it should have been closed.  Is there a demand for gas and food for Lincoln Tunnel motorists heading into NJ on their commute home?

[vdeane]

Every Rest Stop on the Turnpike, Ranked
https://www.eater.com/2017/6/13/15783216/best-new-jersey-turnpike-rest-stop-service-plaza

The writer loses all credibility by saying the Turnpike's signage is atrocious. Had he limited that comment to the unfortunate new MUTCD-style signs, I'd agree with him.

In the context of where it is in the article, the author would appear to be talking mainly about the area around Newark Airport with that statement, though I don't consider the new signage to be bad (especially using objective criteria, and not "I'm a roadgeek and want the unique signage back").  Also worth noting that the author probably doesn't hold any interest into the unique signage in any case, since she strikes me as more a "typical" person who happens to like "road trips", as in, seeing new destinations, usually with friends, and not using an airplane or cruise ship - the road being simply the means of getting from point A to point B, and not the prime attraction, like it is for the people on this forum.

[Alps]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

[ixnay]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

Is it a borough, township, or CDP?

ixnay

[jeffandnicole]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

Is it a borough, township, or CDP?

ixnay

It's a city with a year round population of 873, and a summer population of 726,917

[jwolfer]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

Zip would be. 077xx or 08xxx

LGMS428

[Alps]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

Zip would be. 077xx or 08xxx

LGMS428

Unclear on the concept.

[cpzilliacus]

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

04440? 

[kkt]

They already slipped on the "official" control cities by using "Shore Points" at Exit 129 southbound. That isn't even MUTCD kosher these days as they want a city. A new pull-thru at Exit 123 uses Toms River.

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

Is it a borough, township, or CDP?

ixnay

It's a city with a year round population of 873, and a summer population of 726,917

[epzik8]

I was at the James Fenimore Cooper in April, and I didn't know what song they had in there, but I should have yelled out, "We need some Bon Jovi or Springsteen up in here!" since both of them are from New Jersey. Also, Cinnabon and Popeyes were closed.

[Alps]

I was at the James Fenimore Cooper in April, and I didn't know what song they had in there, but I should have yelled out, "We need some Bon Jovi or Springsteen up in here!" since both of them are from New Jersey. Also, Cinnabon and Popeyes were closed.

Please... don't... yell.

[dgolub]

I was at the James Fenimore Cooper in April, and I didn't know what song they had in there, but I should have yelled out, "We need some Bon Jovi or Springsteen up in here!" since both of them are from New Jersey. Also, Cinnabon and Popeyes were closed.

While we're at it, we need some Billy Joel or Nine Days in the service areas on Long Island.  Oh wait, Long Island doesn't have any service areas...

[Alps]

I was at the James Fenimore Cooper in April, and I didn't know what song they had in there, but I should have yelled out, "We need some Bon Jovi or Springsteen up in here!" since both of them are from New Jersey. Also, Cinnabon and Popeyes were closed.

While we're at it, we need some Billy Joel or Nine Days in the service areas on Long Island.  Oh wait, Long Island doesn't have any service areas...

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/lie-welcome-center-opening-soon-will-ban-trucks-buses-1.12369024??

[storm2k]

Seen at Exit 11:



So the new signs at 10 say New York. This sign at 11 says New York City. New sign at 12 doesn't even put space for a control city. I wish they'd just standardize it. Use New York for everything south of 16E/W and GWB for north of there, that's how I see it.

SB sign has been replaced, and it's for Trenton, keeping in line with all the other signage in place. They should have signed 129 SB with Trenton instead of Camden for a control city. I know 130 says Trenton, but this should too.

[roadman65]

Actually SB 130 should use New Brunswick and Trenton should be 129 SB.

[Alps]

Actually SB 130 should use New Brunswick and Trenton should be 129 SB.

Dammit I agree with you. I hate when that happens.

[storm2k]

Actually SB 130 should use New Brunswick and Trenton should be 129 SB.

They were keeping with NJDOT, which uses Trenton and Newark as the control cities on 1 even though it passes through New Brunswick on the way (and some LGS's on some of 1's intersections in Woodbridge and Edison will use New Brunswick instead of Trenton as the control city).

[PHLBOS]

Seen at Exit 11:

Update: the southbound ramp signage has since been replaced w/similar-layout signage as its northbound ramp counterpart (except it uses 2 arrows rather than 3) and uses Trenton as the control city.  While such is in-synch with the northbound Exit 129 signage; it's not in synch with the southbound Exit 129 signage.

Actually SB 130 should use New Brunswick and Trenton should be 129 SB.

I agree with you 100%. 

Historical Note: When Exit 130 used to a US 1 southbound-only exit; both New Brunswick & Trenton were used on the main signage.  When the cloverleaf ramp for US 1 northbound was retrofitted in; New Brunswick got demoted to auxiliary signage.

[dgolub]

What's Shore Points, NJ's zip code?

ixnay

07000

04440? 

Until you get down toward Atlantic City.  Then, it becomes 04460.