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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM

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jeffandnicole

Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 30, 2019, 09:35:57 AM
Crap like this is what happens when there are multiple roadwork projects and no coordination of signing.








Unfortunately, the closeup of the pics lends itself to not seeing the big picture.  For the first pic, if there was a ramp split, the detour sign could be used to show motorists to keep to the left, then immediately after is the detour sign showing people to take the next exit.

The bottom pic is certainly two different projects, and while one ends just before the next one begins, the projects are on different schedules and signage used for one project is independent of another project.  When it comes to contracts and signing responsibilities, it's surprisingly difficult to coordinate two different projects.  Many contractors don't want to be involved with another project in any way as if an incident or accident were to happen, suddenly both contractors are going to find themselves under investigation for liability.


TEG24601

Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 30, 2019, 09:35:57 AM
Crap like this is what happens when there are multiple roadwork projects and no coordination of signing.



I have no faith in this one, as they couldn't even afford the M on the route marker (the digital sign says M 8, so I can assume by that and the traffic signals, that this is Detroit).
They said take a left at the fork in the road.  I didn't think they literally meant a fork, until plain as day, there was a fork sticking out of the road at a junction.

wanderer2575

Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 30, 2019, 10:26:03 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 30, 2019, 09:35:57 AM
Crap like this is what happens when there are multiple roadwork projects and no coordination of signing.








Unfortunately, the closeup of the pics lends itself to not seeing the big picture.  For the first pic, if there was a ramp split, the detour sign could be used to show motorists to keep to the left, then immediately after is the detour sign showing people to take the next exit.

The bottom pic is certainly two different projects, and while one ends just before the next one begins, the projects are on different schedules and signage used for one project is independent of another project.  When it comes to contracts and signing responsibilities, it's surprisingly difficult to coordinate two different projects.  Many contractors don't want to be involved with another project in any way as if an incident or accident were to happen, suddenly both contractors are going to find themselves under investigation for liability.

Top photo:  There was no ramp split; these are signs belonging to two separate projects along different stretches of M-8 in Detroit (one sign for each).  This was on northbound M-10 approaching M-8; the interchange has a left exit to westbound M-8 and a right exit to eastbound M-8.  This one perhaps is not so much erroneous as it is careless with each respective contractor not covering its signs when its detour was not in effect.  I'm sure most contractors don't want to be involved in any way with other projects, so let's call it an MDOT fail for not requiring its contractors to properly maintain signs including covering those not applicable at a particular time.  Bottom line is that's little consolation for the northbound motorist wishing to exit to westbound M-8 and completely confused as to whether he may do so. 

Bottom photo:  Both projects are happening simultaneously, on the same city road, overseen by the same city road engineering department.  This one at least doesn't send motorists down the wrong road, but again let's call it an overseeing agency fail.

roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/QGFiQh96wAywVv9j7
This should read WEST US 30 and not TO as its on US 30 W Bound.   US 30 turns left onto Girard Avenue from 34th Street.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

fwydriver405

Until around 2017-18 ish, there was a speed limit sign à la Oregon on East Avenue in Lewiston, Maine. I last saw this sign on 30 September 2016, but recent Street View images suggest the sign was taken down. 

Oregon styled SPEED 30 sign in Lewiston, Maine

odditude

Quote from: roadman65 on August 16, 2019, 10:26:22 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QGFiQh96wAywVv9j7
This should read WEST US 30 and not TO as its on US 30 W Bound.   US 30 turns left onto Girard Avenue from 34th Street.

the signs are aimed at NB traffic on 34th St, not the people who just merged onto 34th St from I-76 WB exit 342 (carrying US 30 WB as well). if you consider this sign from that perspective, it would be incorrect as you suggest; it would imply you DON'T get to US 30 EB by turning left there (which you do).

roadman65

Quote from: odditude on August 17, 2019, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 16, 2019, 10:26:22 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QGFiQh96wAywVv9j7
This should read WEST US 30 and not TO as its on US 30 W Bound.   US 30 turns left onto Girard Avenue from 34th Street.

the signs are aimed at NB traffic on 34th St, not the people who just merged onto 34th St from I-76 WB exit 342 (carrying US 30 WB as well). if you consider this sign from that perspective, it would be incorrect as you suggest; it would imply you DON'T get to US 30 EB by turning left there (which you do).
Yeah a catch 22 here, but still for those exiting at Exit 342 and following US 30 W Bound its incorrect.  Even though like you say for 34th Street N Bound its not incorrect as that is US 13 junctioning with US 30 there it still be better if a West sign be there and a TO East for the other direction. 

At least they got this signed. I must admit, as the rest of US 13 is poorly signed.  Go across the river from here on Girard and see how the 33rd Street intersection is signed where US 13 North turns left again.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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Brandon

A new one, found completely via Google Street View:
Check out the "P" in "IndianaPolis".  Demountable copy Clearview to boot.
https://goo.gl/maps/Cc1DzxYvog3c4bD97
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CardInLex

Quote from: Brandon on September 12, 2019, 04:15:19 PM
A new one, found completely via Google Street View:
Check out the "P" in "IndianaPolis".  Demountable copy Clearview to boot.
https://goo.gl/maps/Cc1DzxYvog3c4bD97

This whole stretch is embarrassing.

Muhammad Ali Blvd
1/2 MILE (upside down W for an M and some handcrafted numerals)
https://goo.gl/maps/o4Z1fUyXaMtSFeQTA

Dr. M.L. King, Jr.
EXpreSSway
https://goo.gl/maps/p4G4NLyfTXsZ67fb6

These signs were altered for MOT during the Ohio River Bridges Project and were put back poorly.

wanderer2575

Quote from: CardInLex on September 14, 2019, 10:49:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 12, 2019, 04:15:19 PM
A new one, found completely via Google Street View:
Check out the "P" in "IndianaPolis".  Demountable copy Clearview to boot.
https://goo.gl/maps/Cc1DzxYvog3c4bD97

This whole stretch is embarrassing.

Muhammad Ali Blvd
1/2 MILE (upside down W for an M and some handcrafted numerals)
https://goo.gl/maps/o4Z1fUyXaMtSFeQTA

Dr. M.L. King, Jr.
EXpreSSway
https://goo.gl/maps/p4G4NLyfTXsZ67fb6

These signs were altered for MOT during the Ohio River Bridges Project and were put back poorly.

These aren't erroneous; just sloppy.  There are other threads for ugly signs.

fillup420

upside down sign for the beginning of a median. was like that for at least 5 years. one night i passed it and had enough, so i flipped it right myself. Google maps hasn't yet updated to reflect my guerrilla public service.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/3240+Blowing+Rock+Blvd,+Lenoir,+NC+28645/@36.0091592,-81.5713453,3a,75y,164.31h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s61d7STmLFk2nQtUkt6XLEQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8850e0e2ba72b963:0xab6e2778a14823af

edit: you gotta turn around on the street view. its the yellow diamond sign before the median begins.

Brandon

Quote from: CardInLex on September 14, 2019, 10:49:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 12, 2019, 04:15:19 PM
A new one, found completely via Google Street View:
Check out the "P" in "IndianaPolis".  Demountable copy Clearview to boot.
https://goo.gl/maps/Cc1DzxYvog3c4bD97

This whole stretch is embarrassing.

Muhammad Ali Blvd
1/2 MILE (upside down W for an M and some handcrafted numerals)
https://goo.gl/maps/o4Z1fUyXaMtSFeQTA

Dr. M.L. King, Jr.
EXpreSSway
https://goo.gl/maps/p4G4NLyfTXsZ67fb6

These signs were altered for MOT during the Ohio River Bridges Project and were put back poorly.

That ML King one is a candidate for the Worst thread.
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"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

1995hoo

Heh. My wife normally rolls her eyes if I show her a bad road sign, but even she grimaced at that MLK sign and said, "Some people have NO quality control."
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US 89

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 15, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
Heh. My wife normally rolls her eyes if I show her a bad road sign, but even she grimaced at that MLK sign and said, "Some people have NO quality control."

That's arguably worse than the old CrAiG cOuNtY sign. It's an overhead BGS on an interstate, which should really be held to a higher standard than everyday road signs. And then it has Clearview thrown in for good measure.

CardInLex

Quote from: US 89 on September 15, 2019, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 15, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
Heh. My wife normally rolls her eyes if I show her a bad road sign, but even she grimaced at that MLK sign and said, "Some people have NO quality control."

That's arguably worse than the old CrAiG cOuNtY sign. It's an overhead BGS on an interstate, which should really be held to a higher standard than everyday road signs. And then it has Clearview thrown in for good measure.

Yes. I believe during construction the word "expressway"  was removed so two arrows could be installed to point to lanes for maintenance of traffic. I wish KYTC would go ahead and replace both signs.

hbelkins

Report them here:

https://bpm.kytc.ky.gov/ApplicationBuilder/eFormRender.html?code=810A005056A2147711773A3B03F6EFEF&Process=PA-DV-ReportAPothole

The link says "Report a Pothole" but you can select a "Sign" button to report the problematic signage.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

formulanone

#4466
Looking through last year's Calgary photos, I found that the 566 shield on this overhead should be a Secondary shield (an oval), not an Alberta Primary. Northbound on AB2 - Deerfoot Trail:



I also like the "LANE ENDS", with the diagrammatic above it. Kind of pointless, but it makes you take note of it on a wide gantry.

jakeroot

Quote from: formulanone on September 26, 2019, 06:15:47 PM
I also like the "LANE ENDS", with the diagrammatic above it. Kind of pointless, but it make you take note of it on a wide gantry.

I've seen similar signs in Vancouver, although the symbol was black on yellow.

MNHighwayMan

I wonder if the residents of Balzac know what the name of their town sounds like.

KEVIN_224

Well Connecticut has Cockaponset State Forest, so it could be worse. It's near CT Route 9 in the Haddam area (Middlesex County). ;)

https://goo.gl/maps/n9jhBVe4PBa5a2xD7


kphoger

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 27, 2019, 05:58:31 AM
I wonder if the residents of Balzac know what the name of their town sounds like.

I'll bet members of competing towns' sports teams do!
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WillWeaverRVA

I was not able to get a picture, but some signs on VA 6 in Goochland County were replaced, and some of the VA 310 shields ended up becoming SR 310 shields instead.
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JoePCool14

Just found this nice install while perusing around a Street View link:



Curious as to how someone would even make that maneuver.

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MNHighwayMan

Clearly, it's just warning oncoming traffic that U-turns are prohibited from the other direction. :)

kphoger

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 02, 2019, 09:31:14 AM
Clearly, it's just warning oncoming traffic that U-turns are prohibited from the other direction. :)

No, no, it's regulatory.  It's telling you not to do a U-turn there on your way back.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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