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Title: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: kernals12 on January 10, 2021, 08:15:25 AM
Madrid, yes the one in Spain, got hit with a foot of snow (https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/01/09/madrid-spain-snow-blizzard/), their largest snowfall in 50 years.





Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 10, 2021, 12:28:40 PM
When discussing cold weather in prefer it be in the form of ice puns:

Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2021, 02:11:30 PM
Yep, we have had a massive snowstorm here in Spain, not seen for over a century. Over here on Saturday around noon (CET, 6 am Eastern) I measured 4 inches of snow on the ground, and and still snowed for a good day or so.
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: kernals12 on January 11, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2021, 02:11:30 PM
Yep, we have had a massive snowstorm here in Spain, not seen for over a century. Over here on Saturday around noon (CET, 6 am Eastern) I measured 4 inches of snow on the ground, and and still snowed for a good day or so.

How is this possible? Is it because Madrid is at a high elevation?
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: ET21 on January 12, 2021, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on January 11, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2021, 02:11:30 PM
Yep, we have had a massive snowstorm here in Spain, not seen for over a century. Over here on Saturday around noon (CET, 6 am Eastern) I measured 4 inches of snow on the ground, and and still snowed for a good day or so.

How is this possible? Is it because Madrid is at a high elevation?

It's not unheard of but quite a rare event. Similar to how parts of Texas, Louisiana, and western Mississippi got dumped on with snow here in the states. Parts of Texas saw their largest snowfall ever on record and flakes were flying as far south as the northwestern suburbs of Houston. Just how the pattern set up this winter so far, def an anomalous season so far
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: kernals12 on January 12, 2021, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: ET21 on January 12, 2021, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on January 11, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2021, 02:11:30 PM
Yep, we have had a massive snowstorm here in Spain, not seen for over a century. Over here on Saturday around noon (CET, 6 am Eastern) I measured 4 inches of snow on the ground, and and still snowed for a good day or so.

How is this possible? Is it because Madrid is at a high elevation?

It's not unheard of but quite a rare event. Similar to how parts of Texas, Louisiana, and western Mississippi got dumped on with snow here in the states. Parts of Texas saw their largest snowfall ever on record and flakes were flying as far south as the northwestern suburbs of Houston. Just how the pattern set up this winter so far, def an anomalous season so far

But I never hear about blizzards hitting Marseille or Paris. Is it just because I don't read enough French weather reports?
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: ET21 on January 13, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on January 12, 2021, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: ET21 on January 12, 2021, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on January 11, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2021, 02:11:30 PM
Yep, we have had a massive snowstorm here in Spain, not seen for over a century. Over here on Saturday around noon (CET, 6 am Eastern) I measured 4 inches of snow on the ground, and and still snowed for a good day or so.

How is this possible? Is it because Madrid is at a high elevation?

It's not unheard of but quite a rare event. Similar to how parts of Texas, Louisiana, and western Mississippi got dumped on with snow here in the states. Parts of Texas saw their largest snowfall ever on record and flakes were flying as far south as the northwestern suburbs of Houston. Just how the pattern set up this winter so far, def an anomalous season so far

But I never hear about blizzards hitting Marseille or Paris. Is it just because I don't read enough French weather reports?

Paris and Marseille have different mesoscale climates than Madrid, but the overall climate is similar. But no, Paris does not get large snowfalls often. They do get a few centimeters of snow each year. Their largest snowfall occurred in 1946 with 40 cm (about 15 inches)
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: hotdogPi on January 13, 2021, 09:35:21 AM
Does Madrid really get that cold?

Wikipedia says that the average high and low in Madrid are 50 and 37. This is significantly higher than where I (and you) live, where it's 34 and 14. Madrid's winter is more comparable to Charlotte, NC (51 and 30).

As 37 is just an average, Madrid can definitely get snow.

(Summer temperatures are even closer in Madrid and Charlotte: 89/66 and 89/68).
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: kernals12 on January 13, 2021, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 13, 2021, 09:35:21 AM
Does Madrid really get that cold?

Wikipedia says that the average high and low in Madrid are 50 and 37. This is significantly higher than where I (and you) live, where it's 34 and 14. Madrid's winter is more comparable to Charlotte, NC (51 and 30).

As 37 is just an average, Madrid can definitely get snow.

(Summer temperatures are even closer in Madrid and Charlotte: 89/66 and 89/68).

I would consider that cold. I've always imagined Spain as a tropical paradise, probably because I project too much of Latin America onto them.
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: ET21 on January 13, 2021, 01:14:08 PM
I was looking up climate data and yes, Madrid does get snow. December and January are the coldest and most snowiest months for them, but snow totals are generally light. This recent snowstorm was an anomaly for sure, largest in 50 years
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: Rothman on January 13, 2021, 01:54:43 PM
All you have to do is look at the latitude...
Title: Re: Carly Simon Never Bothered to Say that It's Cold in the Winter in Madrid
Post by: kernals12 on January 13, 2021, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 13, 2021, 01:54:43 PM
All you have to do is look at the latitude...

Which explains why Quebec and England have such similar climates. Wait