The other day, I was just thinking about how with the grid system in Florida, the Orlando area in the middle of the state (area code 407) has many state roads beginning with either a 4 or 5 - so in other words, SR 407 could potentially be located in the area code of the same number and fall within the convention of the grid.
Is that, in fact, true? If not, are there any other highways in the country that happen to go through a region covered by a telephone area code of the same number as the road? I would be interested to find out!
MN used to have MN 218 in the 218 area code.
US 301 in area code 301.
Also, area code 240 is overlaid on 301, and US 240 used to go through the area, before it was decommissioned.
Another example that came to mind: in Virginia, "secondary" state routes are numbered 600 and above, and the numbers are repeated between counties. I'm sure that amongst the sprawling Northern Virginia suburbs in Fairfax and Loudoun counties (area code 703), there must be an SR 703 somewhere. Is that right?
Also, what about SR 757 in Hampton Roads or SR 804 in the Richmond area?
of the 4 (soon to be 5) colorado area codes, i can't think of any. maybe there's a co-303 somewhere, but the others are not so likely, methinks.
where's the guy that knows like everything about colorado?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5971.0
I swear we had another thread on the subject more recent than this, though.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 10, 2021, 02:12:23 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5971.0
I swear we had another thread on the subject more recent than this, though.
I wouldn't have known about it - that one was from almost ten years ago. How about a merge?
Alabama used to have SR 205 within the 205 Area Code, but now it's part of 256/938. A near miss in Guntersville, Albertville, and Boaz.
AC 251 doesn't contain SR 251, which is located in 255/938.
ACs 334, 256, and 938 do not correspond to any state route.
In Indiana, there was an IN 219 in area code 219, but the road has been decommissioned and the area code got split and is now 574.
None of the other area codes in the state correspond to any state highway anywhere in the state.
Of Louisiana's 5 area codes,
225: 200's do not exist in LA highways.
318 exists but in the wrong area code (337)
337: does not exist
504: exists but in the wrong area code (318).
985: exists but in the wrong area code (225)
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Quote from: SkyPesos on December 10, 2021, 01:01:37 AM
US 301 in area code 301.
Also, area code 240 is overlaid on 301, and US 240 used to go through the area, before it was decommissioned.
If only MD 410 made it to area code 410 (split off from 301, which was originally the entire state, to cover the east half of MD), but alas it doesn't make it out of 240/301...
That said, 667 is one of 2 overlay codes for 410, and there is an MD 667 on the Eastern Shore near Pocomoke City.
While Delaware (302) doesn't have a route 302, MD 302 does touch the area code by virtue of ending at the MD/DE state line (becoming DE 11).
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 01:03:21 AM
Another example that came to mind: in Virginia, "secondary" state routes are numbered 600 and above, and the numbers are repeated between counties. I'm sure that amongst the sprawling Northern Virginia suburbs in Fairfax and Loudoun counties (area code 703), there must be an SR 703 somewhere. Is that right?
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There are two Secondary Route 703s that I know of in Northern Virginia: Shreve Road in Fairfax County (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.8759527,-77.2191153/38.8927596,-77.1922389/@38.8856653,-77.2156291,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0) and Old Carolina Road near Haymarket in Prince William County (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.8759527,-77.2191153/38.8927596,-77.1922389/@38.8856653,-77.2156291,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0). (In both cases, the blue "directions" are set just to highlight which road it is.)
There may be others; those are the two I know of off the top of my head. I've never been on Old Carolina Road, but I've used Shreve Road many times, especially in the era when I-66 inside the Beltway was HOV-restricted during rush hours. It's an excellent shortcut to Falls Church if you're coming from Fairfax. (Also, when I was a kid my mom worked at a school located on Shreve Road.)
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 10, 2021, 02:12:23 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5971.0
I swear we had another thread on the subject more recent than this, though.
You're probably thinking of this fictional thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28290.0) (create a same-numbered US route in an area code).
It was also present for one day of the Daily Picture Challenge. I posted a ME 207 there.
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 10, 2021, 02:10:17 AM
of the 4 (soon to be 5) colorado area codes, i can't think of any. maybe there's a co-303 somewhere, but the others are not so likely, methinks.
where's the guy that knows like everything about colorado?
If you're talking about me, aw shucks. But no CO303 in the state alas, and certainly no 719, 720, 970, or 983 (the new one).
Seems like San Antonio (Area code 210) missed a big opportunity when they called their beltway I-410 instead of I-210 - a number that could have been used, given that it's not found elsewhere in Texas.
US 281, which also goes through San Antonio, is too far west for area code 281, which is in Houston.
Not sure about the many other area codes in Texas - maybe one of them has a matching FM road?
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 10:36:16 AM
Seems like San Antonio (Area code 210) missed a big opportunity when they called their beltway I-410 instead of I-210 - a number that could have been used, given that it's not found elsewhere in Texas.
US 281, which also goes through San Antonio, is too far west for area code 281, which is in Houston.
Not sure about the many other area codes in Texas - maybe one of them has a matching FM road?
FM 903 is in the 903 area code near Greenville.
(https://www.google.com/maps/vt/data=nRAHtmEhyevemSrv4ZV2KFKO8VfT0ql_QAvAHiHPq4XZUeWNhtX2tyrUji11VO5Na5JVontHWWzbGQwkWLcD9fZdRVUJU104F46_fACNVqgBpxUjLYIPlIlvkPh6dyOMywX1-_4FmLx_v6dYQd2EjSu9aT3ge3tekWb8iz4kB-uHBwpcuRFF3xLgXWyC9FWM8hm33BSekVgar9FpVEV8iIF3ZsnXIIlo-_Z9iQxQUVAd7ODMBJ5djdwqhnyNBJXQtfkfwV0xOg)
None in Georgia. The closest that the state gets is that the state's original area code of 404 is also used as the unsigned designation for an Interstate, specifically I-16. However, the split of the state into 404 and 912 occurred in 1954 while I-16 would not be constructed until the 1960s (and I-16 is completely on the side of the state that was in 912 after the original 404/912 split). There's also a former route 229, but it was decommissioned about 2 decades before area code 229 was established, plus they are in different parts of the state anyway.
Both KY 270 and KY 859 are in their respective area codes. KY 606 used to be in the same area code until that area was split off into the 859 area code. Same for KY 502; it was part of the split into 270.
M-231 misses area code 231 by only a few miles.
Quote from: cabiness42 on December 10, 2021, 08:40:52 AM
In Indiana, there was an IN 219 in area code 219, but the road has been decommissioned and the area code got split and is now 574.
None of the other area codes in the state correspond to any state highway anywhere in the state.
Time for an I-765 spur to West Lafayette :-D
Once upon a time: NC-704 from Francisco to Wentworth, North Carolina. At one time, all of North Carolina was area code 704. By 1954, the eastern half of North Carolina got assigned 919. None of the other area codes in North Carolina have ever been in the state highway system.
RI has RI 401
ME has ME 207
NY 315 is in the 315
CT 203 is in the 860, and SR 860 is in the 203
Unfortunately, Highway 416 in Ontario is a 4 hours drive away from the area code 416 of Toronto
From 1964 to 1991, CA 213 was in the 213 area code.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
The other day, I was just thinking about how with the grid system in Florida, the Orlando area in the middle of the state (area code 407) has many state roads beginning with either a 4 or 5 - so in other words, SR 407 could potentially be located in the area code of the same number and fall within the convention of the grid.
Is that, in fact, true?
Since nobody's answered your question yet, it doesn't seem to be true anymore. SR 407 runs near the Space Coast (In fact, you would drive on it to go from Orlando to the Kennedy Space Center), which was split off into the 321 area code from 407 in 1999.
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 10, 2021, 01:01:37 AM
US 301 in area code 301.
Also, area code 240 is overlaid on 301, and US 240 used to go through the area, before it was decommissioned.
301 in 301 has always been a mnemonic device for me while traveling between Bowie and the Nice Bridge.
Quote from: GaryV on December 10, 2021, 01:13:49 PM
M-231 misses area code 231 by only a few miles.
Fun fact: To clinch M-231, you have to enter area code 231 briefly as the next exit to the west along I-96 is Fruitport Rd, which is in area code 231 (by 1/2 mile)!
Alabama:
205 - AL205 was in its area code until 1998, now in 256/938
251 - AL251 in is 256/938
256 - AL256 does not exist
334 - AL334 does not exist
659 - AL659 does not exist
938 - AL938 does not exist
Maryland Route 667 is within area code 410, one of whose overlays is 667.
Ohio: OH-220 travels within area code 220 (around Waverly)
NJ 201 existed when AC 201 was created. NJ 201 is gone, but the area code would still match, even with an overlay.
Quote from: pianocello on December 11, 2021, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
The other day, I was just thinking about how with the grid system in Florida, the Orlando area in the middle of the state (area code 407) has many state roads beginning with either a 4 or 5 - so in other words, SR 407 could potentially be located in the area code of the same number and fall within the convention of the grid.
Is that, in fact, true?
Since nobody's answered your question yet, it doesn't seem to be true anymore. SR 407 runs near the Space Coast (In fact, you would drive on it to go from Orlando to the Kennedy Space Center), which was split off into the 321 area code from 407 in 1999.
Following up on this: is SR 321 in the 321 area code? It would be the right part of the state for that.
NY has NY 315 in area code 315. You can see both at once in this Street View image (https://goo.gl/maps/Q6uqCKoXPWqs6ehV6) (zoom in to see the phone number for China Cafe on the left).
Quote from: KCRoadFan on November 01, 2022, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: pianocello on December 11, 2021, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
The other day, I was just thinking about how with the grid system in Florida, the Orlando area in the middle of the state (area code 407) has many state roads beginning with either a 4 or 5 - so in other words, SR 407 could potentially be located in the area code of the same number and fall within the convention of the grid.
Is that, in fact, true?
Since nobody's answered your question yet, it doesn't seem to be true anymore. SR 407 runs near the Space Coast (In fact, you would drive on it to go from Orlando to the Kennedy Space Center), which was split off into the 321 area code from 407 in 1999.
Following up on this: is SR 321 in the 321 area code? It would be the right part of the state for that.
There doesn't appear to be one, at least if Wikipedia's listing of Florida's state routes is accurate.
It's very possible that you could fine one in Virgina either in 757 or 804. But given the high number of routes I don't have time to go looking for one.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 02, 2022, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on November 01, 2022, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: pianocello on December 11, 2021, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
The other day, I was just thinking about how with the grid system in Florida, the Orlando area in the middle of the state (area code 407) has many state roads beginning with either a 4 or 5 - so in other words, SR 407 could potentially be located in the area code of the same number and fall within the convention of the grid.
Is that, in fact, true?
Since nobody's answered your question yet, it doesn't seem to be true anymore. SR 407 runs near the Space Coast (In fact, you would drive on it to go from Orlando to the Kennedy Space Center), which was split off into the 321 area code from 407 in 1999.
Following up on this: is SR 321 in the 321 area code? It would be the right part of the state for that.
There doesn't appear to be one, at least if Wikipedia's listing of Florida's state routes is accurate.
There's a lot of 2xx and 3xx county routes in North Central Florida that used to be state routes, and their numbering seems to increase towards the west. I can't find a 321, but I think it probably would have been in Levy or Marion County, both of which are in the 352 area code.
That said, I couldn't find a CR 352/likely former SR 352 either, which if it did exist would probably be in the right area code (I'd guess in Levy, Dixie, or Suwannee County)
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
are there any other highways in the country that happen to go through a region covered by a telephone area code of the same number as the road?
Yes.
Maine has a Route 207 in Scarborough.
https://goo.gl/maps/1E3gvHSyhBZdDVT97 (https://goo.gl/maps/1E3gvHSyhBZdDVT97)
Rhode Island has a route 401 in East Greenwich
https://goo.gl/maps/9D5iuNfh5hEWz7ZKA (https://goo.gl/maps/9D5iuNfh5hEWz7ZKA)
(Connecticut has a Route 203 but it is in Windham, which is in a different area code than the SW part of the state.
https://goo.gl/maps/fQqWw4rpbPff4K4Y8 (https://goo.gl/maps/fQqWw4rpbPff4K4Y8))
It's funny that the urban areas of Seattle and Spokane have route numbers for their respective area codes, just swapped around.
Seattle is area code 206 and has SR 509, a major freeway.
Spokane is in area code 509 and has SR 206, a highway that serves its closest ski area.
Quote from: pianocello on November 02, 2022, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 02, 2022, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on November 01, 2022, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: pianocello on December 11, 2021, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 12:46:55 AM
The other day, I was just thinking about how with the grid system in Florida, the Orlando area in the middle of the state (area code 407) has many state roads beginning with either a 4 or 5 - so in other words, SR 407 could potentially be located in the area code of the same number and fall within the convention of the grid.
Is that, in fact, true?
Since nobody's answered your question yet, it doesn't seem to be true anymore. SR 407 runs near the Space Coast (In fact, you would drive on it to go from Orlando to the Kennedy Space Center), which was split off into the 321 area code from 407 in 1999.
Following up on this: is SR 321 in the 321 area code? It would be the right part of the state for that.
There doesn't appear to be one, at least if Wikipedia's listing of Florida's state routes is accurate.
There's a lot of 2xx and 3xx county routes in North Central Florida that used to be state routes, and their numbering seems to increase towards the west. I can't find a 321, but I think it probably would have been in Levy or Marion County, both of which are in the 352 area code.
That said, I couldn't find a CR 352/likely former SR 352 either, which if it did exist would probably be in the right area code (I'd guess in Levy, Dixie, or Suwannee County)
Area code 772 covers the Treasure Coast region, which is in the 7-band - is there an SR 772 or CR 772 there?
Quote from: KCRoadFan on November 03, 2022, 03:02:31 PM
Area code 772 covers the Treasure Coast region, which is in the 7-band - is there an SR 772 or CR 772 there?
Nope. Wikipedia shows a CR 772 in Sarasota County, on the other side of the state.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 10:36:16 AM
Seems like San Antonio (Area code 210) missed a big opportunity when they called their beltway I-410 instead of I-210 - a number that could have been used, given that it's not found elsewhere in Texas.
US 281, which also goes through San Antonio, is too far west for area code 281, which is in Houston.
Not sure about the many other area codes in Texas - maybe one of them has a matching FM road?
I think that I-410 predated AC 210 by quite a while.
Quote from: bwana39 on November 05, 2022, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on December 10, 2021, 10:36:16 AM
Seems like San Antonio (Area code 210) missed a big opportunity when they called their beltway I-410 instead of I-210 - a number that could have been used, given that it's not found elsewhere in Texas.
US 281, which also goes through San Antonio, is too far west for area code 281, which is in Houston.
Not sure about the many other area codes in Texas - maybe one of them has a matching FM road?
I think that I-410 predated AC 210 by quite a while.
The route number predates the area code by 32 years, in fact.
I-410 has existed since 1969, but it inherited that number from the highway's previous iteration as Loop-410, which had existed as a Texas state route since October 1960.
Area code 210 has only existed since November 1992.