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Massachusetts milepost exit numbering conversion contract

Started by roadman, October 28, 2015, 05:28:52 PM

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SectorZ

Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?


spooky

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 21, 2021, 04:53:48 PM
I'm never going to get used to my exit being exit 35.

I don't remember what my exit number is. I still find it every time.

Rothman

Exiting I-91 on Exit 25 instead of Exit 19 was more jarring than I expected, but, in the end, it felt like a very good change.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

fwydriver405

Does anyone know if this sign, on I-95 SB in NH on the Exit 1 bridge, is an NHDOT or MassDOT install? The previous sign pre-2013 looked like an NHDOT install based on the sign design and dual units for the distance. If the old sign was still there it would have been the only dual unit sign for a newly renumbered MA exit.


SectorZ

Quote from: fwydriver405 on April 22, 2021, 11:00:31 PM
Does anyone know if this sign, on I-95 SB in NH on the Exit 1 bridge, is an NHDOT or MassDOT install? The previous sign pre-2013 looked like an NHDOT install based on the sign design and dual units for the distance. If the old sign was still there it would have been the only dual unit sign for a newly renumbered MA exit.



What's weird is that I would guess that the old was NHDOT, the new MassDOT.

Yet, the old sign had "Salisbury", the new "Salisbury MA".

kernals12

Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

abqtraveler

Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

The exits through Danbury probably won't change much, since the existing exits are pretty close to their respective mileposts from the NY state line to Exit 8. Exits 1 and 2 would probably change to Exits 1A and 1B/C. I would suspect Exits 3 through 8 would remain the same, and Exit 9 would become probably 11 or 12, and 10 would become 15, and so on...

But...I-84 would be probably be one of the last highways in Connecticut to be renumbered to mile-based exits, along with I-91 and I-95 since highway signs along the entire length would have to be replaced before the conversion becomes required.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

kernals12

Quote from: abqtraveler on April 23, 2021, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

The exits through Danbury probably won't change much, since the existing exits are pretty close to their respective mileposts from the NY state line to Exit 8. Exits 1 and 2 would probably change to Exits 1A and 1B/C. I would suspect Exits 3 through 8 would remain the same, and Exit 9 would become probably 11 or 12, and 10 would become 15, and so on...

But...I-84 would be probably be one of the last highways in Connecticut to be renumbered to mile-based exits, along with I-91 and I-95 since highway signs along the entire length would have to be replaced before the conversion becomes required.
Okay good. Existential crisis averted

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: abqtraveler on April 23, 2021, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

The exits through Danbury probably won't change much, since the existing exits are pretty close to their respective mileposts from the NY state line to Exit 8. Exits 1 and 2 would probably change to Exits 1A and 1B/C. I would suspect Exits 3 through 8 would remain the same, and Exit 9 would become probably 11 or 12, and 10 would become 15, and so on...

But...I-84 would be probably be one of the last highways in Connecticut to be renumbered to mile-based exits, along with I-91 and I-95 since highway signs along the entire length would have to be replaced before the conversion becomes required.
Okay good. Existential crisis averted

I'm already practicing that my exits (30-32) will be 42, 44, and 46. 
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

bob7374

MassDOT just announced the details of I-93 exit renumbering, they will be doing it in 2 segments:

The following corridor will begin conversion in a week: 
Corridor: Interstate 93
Approximate start date: May 2
Approximate construction duration: 4 weeks
Sunday, May 2 to Wednesday, May 5: Old Exits 13 to 27 (Southeast Expressway from Dorchester through the Tip O'Neill Tunnel)
Thursday, May 6 to Thursday, May 27: Old Exit 28 through 48 (from Boston/Somerville through Methuen)
Location: Boston to Methuen

Exit numbers 1 through 12 will remain the same exit numbers as they are already consistent with the existing mile markers. Work will take place starting in the south and working north.
Hours of operation: 8:00 PM - 5:00 AM

kphoger

Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Okay good. Existential crisis averted

Were you not going to be able to find the store otherwise?
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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kernals12

Quote from: kphoger on April 23, 2021, 01:57:55 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
Okay good. Existential crisis averted

Were you not going to be able to find the store otherwise?

I don't live there anymore.

kernals12

Quote from: bob7374 on April 23, 2021, 01:36:41 PM
MassDOT just announced the details of I-93 exit renumbering, they will be doing it in 2 segments:

The following corridor will begin conversion in a week: 
Corridor: Interstate 93
Approximate start date: May 2
Approximate construction duration: 4 weeks
Sunday, May 2 to Wednesday, May 5: Old Exits 13 to 27 (Southeast Expressway from Dorchester through the Tip O'Neill Tunnel)
Thursday, May 6 to Thursday, May 27: Old Exit 28 through 48 (from Boston/Somerville through Methuen)
Location: Boston to Methuen

Exit numbers 1 through 12 will remain the same exit numbers as they are already consistent with the existing mile markers. Work will take place starting in the south and working north.
Hours of operation: 8:00 PM - 5:00 AM

I get off on old exit 43 when going to work, so that will take some getting used to, but on the other hand I won't be stuck in the right lane behind some truck for miles after exit 42.

SectorZ

Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

I would be more confused at an exit having a Loew's and a Lowe's then that exit changing numbers.

Roadgeekteen

Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

Ben114

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?

The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?

The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Ok... but why did they postpone the exit renumbering? It's just stickers!
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

vdeane

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?

The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Ok... but why did they postpone the exit renumbering? It's just stickers!
You can blame Cape Cod for that.  The US 6 sign replacement was happening around the same time, and while they were in a process of throwing a hissy fit over the overhead signs, someone noticed the new numbers, and they threw a hissy fit over those too.  In response, MassDOT cancelled the renumbering statewide, only to bring it back a few years later, I presume due to FHWA pressure.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: vdeane on April 23, 2021, 11:47:33 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?

The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Ok... but why did they postpone the exit renumbering? It's just stickers!
You can blame Cape Cod for that.  The US 6 sign replacement was happening around the same time, and while they were in a process of throwing a hissy fit over the overhead signs, someone noticed the new numbers, and they threw a hissy fit over those too.  In response, MassDOT cancelled the renumbering statewide, only to bring it back a few years later, I presume due to FHWA pressure.
Why would Cape Cod care about exit numbers? Nobody in Needham has said a word about the exits in town changing from 18 and 19 to 33 and 35.
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

kernals12

Quote from: SectorZ on April 23, 2021, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

I would be more confused at an exit having a Loew's and a Lowe's then that exit changing numbers.

Even better, they're on the same lot although the Loew's is now AMC branded
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4175113,-73.4164524,17.48z


I'm very sure that was intentional.

vdeane

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:54:09 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 23, 2021, 11:47:33 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?

The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Ok... but why did they postpone the exit renumbering? It's just stickers!
You can blame Cape Cod for that.  The US 6 sign replacement was happening around the same time, and while they were in a process of throwing a hissy fit over the overhead signs, someone noticed the new numbers, and they threw a hissy fit over those too.  In response, MassDOT cancelled the renumbering statewide, only to bring it back a few years later, I presume due to FHWA pressure.
Why would Cape Cod care about exit numbers? Nobody in Needham has said a word about the exits in town changing from 18 and 19 to 33 and 35.
They have a pathological resistance to change.  Also, they hated that the Mid-Cape Highway starts at 55 instead of 1.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: vdeane on April 24, 2021, 12:24:52 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:54:09 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 23, 2021, 11:47:33 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?

The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Ok... but why did they postpone the exit renumbering? It's just stickers!
You can blame Cape Cod for that.  The US 6 sign replacement was happening around the same time, and while they were in a process of throwing a hissy fit over the overhead signs, someone noticed the new numbers, and they threw a hissy fit over those too.  In response, MassDOT cancelled the renumbering statewide, only to bring it back a few years later, I presume due to FHWA pressure.
Why would Cape Cod care about exit numbers? Nobody in Needham has said a word about the exits in town changing from 18 and 19 to 33 and 35.
They have a pathological resistance to change.  Also, they hated that the Mid-Cape Highway starts at 55 instead of 1.
Lol they can lose the US 6 number and get MA 389 or something like that if they want exits to start at 1. Fortunately, the state stood its ground and renumbered the exits.
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

akotchi

Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?
The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Curious that they did not go the other way and install the signs with the new exit numbers, but overlay with the old numbers until the renumbering became official.
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: akotchi on April 24, 2021, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: Ben114 on April 23, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 23, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Question: Why did they not replace the Mass Pike exit numbers when they replaced the signs, instead choosing to replace the signs with the old exits and put stickers over the numbers?
The Pike sign replacement was planned during the initial renumbering effort from 2015-16, and when the renumbering was postponed, the sign replacement continued with existing exit numbers.
Curious that they did not go the other way and install the signs with the new exit numbers, but overlay with the old numbers until the renumbering became official.
If they knew they were going to have to renumber the exits eventually might as well get it out of the way.
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: kernals12 on April 24, 2021, 12:15:53 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 23, 2021, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 23, 2021, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on April 22, 2021, 12:42:59 PM
My life will fall apart when Connecticut switches to mile based exits.

So are you in a partial state of collapse right now?

It will once they get to I-84 in Danbury. My exit was exit 3 throughout my childhood, my mother taught me that. Exit 2 was Trader Joe's, Exit 4 was for Stew Leonard's, Costco, Loew's, and Lowe's, and Exit 8 was Target. Now they're taking it away :-(

I would be more confused at an exit having a Loew's and a Lowe's then that exit changing numbers.

Even better, they're on the same lot although the Loew's is now AMC branded
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4175113,-73.4164524,17.48z


I'm very sure that was intentional.

Of course it was.  Same thing in Plainville (this is from 2015) https://goo.gl/maps/WLPneGNwJR3Tabfe7
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)



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