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Started by US71, August 04, 2010, 06:54:42 PM

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msunat97

Quote from: MikieTimT on January 16, 2021, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: msunat97 on January 15, 2021, 11:03:00 AM
Any new updates on this work?  The 71 days for the closure of MO Rte 90 should be up.  I drove down I49 into Arkansas at Christmas, but it was dark by the time that we reached the area where the interstate ends.  I was able to see some new temporary concrete barriers setup where the interstate will continue South in the new alignment.

MO-90 was still closed last weekend when I took a drive from Fayetteville to Noel, MO and MO-76/US-160/MO/AR-125 across southern MO to the Peel Ferry and back.  Had to use the King's Highway (MO-H) to bypass construction still.  Drove AR-549 today for work.  The base layer of asphalt down on the northbound lanes the whole way to the first AR-72 exit northbound.  Still working on the bridge over McKissic Creek, but it's starting to look like it was always meant to be now.  Arkansas is looking like they'll be able to open all the lanes long before Missouri can meet them.

Thanks MikieTimT.  Google Maps satellite view shows the extension of the dirt work all the way to the MO state line.  Too bad those contractors can't keep moving north to help MO pick up the pace of the work


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Quote from: msunat97 on January 23, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
Thanks MikieTimT.  Google Maps satellite view shows the extension of the dirt work all the way to the MO state line.  Too bad those contractors can't keep moving north to help MO pick up the pace of the work

That is an impressive # of earth moving vehicles parked at the north end of the new dirtwork. I also see they have a quarry just over into Missouri for this project
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Quote from: msunat97 on January 23, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on January 16, 2021, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: msunat97 on January 15, 2021, 11:03:00 AM
Any new updates on this work?  The 71 days for the closure of MO Rte 90 should be up.  I drove down I49 into Arkansas at Christmas, but it was dark by the time that we reached the area where the interstate ends.  I was able to see some new temporary concrete barriers setup where the interstate will continue South in the new alignment.

MO-90 was still closed last weekend when I took a drive from Fayetteville to Noel, MO and MO-76/US-160/MO/AR-125 across southern MO to the Peel Ferry and back.  Had to use the King's Highway (MO-H) to bypass construction still.  Drove AR-549 today for work.  The base layer of asphalt down on the northbound lanes the whole way to the first AR-72 exit northbound.  Still working on the bridge over McKissic Creek, but it's starting to look like it was always meant to be now.  Arkansas is looking like they'll be able to open all the lanes long before Missouri can meet them.

Thanks MikieTimT.  Google Maps satellite view shows the extension of the dirt work all the way to the MO state line.  Too bad those contractors can't keep moving north to help MO pick up the pace of the work

Anytime!  I drive that stretch regularly for jobs in Bella Vista and Gravette.  I really need to treat myself to a GoPro at some point and do a short video of that stretch periodically and put on YouTube.  Phone camera gets too much dashboard.  It'd only take around 12 minutes to film the whole stretch from the current end of I-49 northbound where it dumps onto US-71 all the way to Rocky Dell Hollow Rd., but it takes a U-turn on US-71 at the first light to get onto AR-549 northbound.  The same contractor got the Missouri project that is doing the northern stretch in Arkansas, so I'd be shocked if that equipment doesn't just move north.

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2020/may/25/bella-vista-bypass-interchange-construc/#:~:text=Sapp%20%26%20Sons%20is%20the%20primary,will%20cost%20about%20%2435.5%20million.

msunat97

Quote from: MikieTimT on January 23, 2021, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: msunat97 on January 23, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on January 16, 2021, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: msunat97 on January 15, 2021, 11:03:00 AM
Any new updates on this work?  The 71 days for the closure of MO Rte 90 should be up.  I drove down I49 into Arkansas at Christmas, but it was dark by the time that we reached the area where the interstate ends.  I was able to see some new temporary concrete barriers setup where the interstate will continue South in the new alignment.

MO-90 was still closed last weekend when I took a drive from Fayetteville to Noel, MO and MO-76/US-160/MO/AR-125 across southern MO to the Peel Ferry and back.  Had to use the King's Highway (MO-H) to bypass construction still.  Drove AR-549 today for work.  The base layer of asphalt down on the northbound lanes the whole way to the first AR-72 exit northbound.  Still working on the bridge over McKissic Creek, but it's starting to look like it was always meant to be now.  Arkansas is looking like they'll be able to open all the lanes long before Missouri can meet them.

Thanks MikieTimT.  Google Maps satellite view shows the extension of the dirt work all the way to the MO state line.  Too bad those contractors can't keep moving north to help MO pick up the pace of the work

Anytime!  I drive that stretch regularly for jobs in Bella Vista and Gravette.  I really need to treat myself to a GoPro at some point and do a short video of that stretch periodically and put on YouTube.  Phone camera gets too much dashboard.  It'd only take around 12 minutes to film the whole stretch from the current end of I-49 northbound where it dumps onto US-71 all the way to Rocky Dell Hollow Rd., but it takes a U-turn on US-71 at the first light to get onto AR-549 northbound.  The same contractor got the Missouri project that is doing the northern stretch in Arkansas, so I'd be shocked if that equipment doesn't just move north.

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2020/may/25/bella-vista-bypass-interchange-construc/#:~:text=Sapp%20%26%20Sons%20is%20the%20primary,will%20cost%20about%20%2435.5%20million.

I didn't look that closely at the contractor...that's good that they can continue moving north.  most times the state lines & different DOT's cause delays.

MikieTimT

Quote from: msunat97 on January 24, 2021, 09:54:02 PM
I didn't look that closely at the contractor...that's good that they can continue moving north.  most times the state lines & different DOT's cause delays.

The NWA Council helped Missouri get the BUILD grant to finish the Bella Vista Bypass, so they're on the same page on this project in general since it helps both states.

US71

MoDOT has just announced MO 90 between US 71 and Noel (at I-49) is now open to traffic.
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GreenLanternCorps

Aside from the MO 90 bridge and interchange construction, do we know what work has been done so far on this project?

msunat97

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 26, 2021, 07:09:16 AM
Aside from the MO 90 bridge and interchange construction, do we know what work has been done so far on this project?

Outside of MikieTimT or US71, there's nothing else in any news articles or MoDOT & Ark DOT sites for updates.  I was looking for photos from the MO 90 bridge work & haven't found any.

US71

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 26, 2021, 07:09:16 AM
Aside from the MO 90 bridge and interchange construction, do we know what work has been done so far on this project?

I took some photos a couple weeks ago, but haven't had time to sort them.

The road appears paved north of Bella Vista/CR 34 and work continues to pave the it south of there.

The (AR 549) I-49/US 71 interchange at Bentonville continues to be built/upgraded.

If the weather holds, I hope to get to Missouri to check on things up there.

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edwaleni

I will be in the area around May, I will see if I can get some pictures while there.

MikieTimT

Quote from: msunat97 on February 26, 2021, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 26, 2021, 07:09:16 AM
Aside from the MO 90 bridge and interchange construction, do we know what work has been done so far on this project?

Outside of MikieTimT or US71, there's nothing else in any news articles or MoDOT & Ark DOT sites for updates.  I was looking for photos from the MO 90 bridge work & haven't found any.

Hadn't been up into Missouri since my last post, but on the Arkansas side, I was on AR-549 twice yesterday, once all the way to Exit 287.  Still have roadbed pretty much completed from where the offramp splits off for US-71 on southbound Future I-49 that AR-549 uses currently for both directions, along with all bridge decks and barriers along with the asphault base from the stretch north where the almost completely poured median barrier ends with a grass median taking its place.  They have poured the concrete base nearly the whole stretch where they will put the posts in for the cable barrier in the median.  They could likely get a significant stretch of 4 lane done by summer's end in the middle section, barring weather or pandemic delays if the contractor is scheduled to do the concrete road surface.  Don't know if that's scheduled, though, but they have done the part with the center divider completed with concrete surface already to the new US-71 overpass approach, which already has the support beams over US-71.  The northbound I-49 entrance ramp has a bridge with support beams in place as well, but no decking or approaches yet either.  They've still got to build up the grade for the approaches on both ends of both overpasses/bridges.  Anyway, that's the status update on the Arkansas side.  Didn't check any further north than Exit 287, though.  Wonder when they'll get around to renumbering exits on the Arkansas side at this point down to I-40/Alma.  Probably when it's almost time to open the bypass.

US71

Quote from: MikieTimT on March 01, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: msunat97 on February 26, 2021, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 26, 2021, 07:09:16 AM
Aside from the MO 90 bridge and interchange construction, do we know what work has been done so far on this project?

Outside of MikieTimT or US71, there's nothing else in any news articles or MoDOT & Ark DOT sites for updates.  I was looking for photos from the MO 90 bridge work & haven't found any.

Hadn't been up into Missouri since my last post, but on the Arkansas side, I was on AR-549 twice yesterday, once all the way to Exit 287.  Still have roadbed pretty much completed from where the offramp splits off for US-71 on southbound Future I-49 that AR-549 uses currently for both directions, along with all bridge decks and barriers along with the asphault base from the stretch north where the almost completely poured median barrier ends with a grass median taking its place.  They have poured the concrete base nearly the whole stretch where they will put the posts in for the cable barrier in the median.  They could likely get a significant stretch of 4 lane done by summer's end in the middle section, barring weather or pandemic delays if the contractor is scheduled to do the concrete road surface.  Don't know if that's scheduled, though, but they have done the part with the center divider completed with concrete surface already to the new US-71 overpass approach, which already has the support beams over US-71.  The northbound I-49 entrance ramp has a bridge with support beams in place as well, but no decking or approaches yet either.  They've still got to build up the grade for the approaches on both ends of both overpasses/bridges.  Anyway, that's the status update on the Arkansas side.  Didn't check any further north than Exit 287, though.  Wonder when they'll get around to renumbering exits on the Arkansas side at this point down to I-40/Alma.  Probably when it's almost time to open the bypass.

That's my guess.  Everything north of Bentonville is already numbered (only 3 exits though)
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US71

I am slowly uploading some of my recent I-49 construction photos to the  Build I-49 Facebook page,

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msunat97

Big thanks to US71 & MikieTimT for the updates.

MikieTimT

Quote from: msunat97 on March 01, 2021, 05:15:20 PM
Big thanks to US71 & MikieTimT for the updates.

You're certainly welcome!  Can't wait for this project to finally wrap up so we don't have to slog through Bella Vista anymore.

MikieTimT

And can't wait for Missouri to fix the I-49 clusterf**k around Joplin/Carthage.  Only needs a northern interchange and a rebadge.

mvak36

Quote from: MikieTimT on March 02, 2021, 08:59:01 AM
And can't wait for Missouri to fix the I-49 clusterf**k around Joplin/Carthage.  Only needs a northern interchange and a rebadge.

I remember that project was one of the ones they said they would do when they tried to pass Amendment 7 (temporary sales tax increase) back in 2014. I wonder how much of a priority it is for MODOT now that they're mostly focused on preservation.
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I-39

Quote from: mvak36 on March 02, 2021, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 02, 2021, 08:59:01 AM
And can't wait for Missouri to fix the I-49 clusterf**k around Joplin/Carthage.  Only needs a northern interchange and a rebadge.

I remember that project was one of the ones they said they would do when they tried to pass Amendment 7 (temporary sales tax increase) back in 2014. I wonder how much of a priority it is for MODOT now that they're mostly focused on preservation.

We're they planning to reroute I-49 onto MO 249/171?

MikieTimT

Quote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on March 02, 2021, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 02, 2021, 08:59:01 AM
And can't wait for Missouri to fix the I-49 clusterf**k around Joplin/Carthage.  Only needs a northern interchange and a rebadge.

I remember that project was one of the ones they said they would do when they tried to pass Amendment 7 (temporary sales tax increase) back in 2014. I wonder how much of a priority it is for MODOT now that they're mostly focused on preservation.

We're they planning to reroute I-49 onto MO 249/171?

That's the rebadge that should happen.  Just need the money for a proper Carthage interchange.  Rebadge I-49 from Carthage to I-44, and I-49 is complete in Missouri.  Until enough folks in KC,MO either pass on or grow tired of Bruce Watkins, anyway.

mvak36

Quote from: MikieTimT on March 02, 2021, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on March 02, 2021, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 02, 2021, 08:59:01 AM
And can't wait for Missouri to fix the I-49 clusterf**k around Joplin/Carthage.  Only needs a northern interchange and a rebadge.

I remember that project was one of the ones they said they would do when they tried to pass Amendment 7 (temporary sales tax increase) back in 2014. I wonder how much of a priority it is for MODOT now that they're mostly focused on preservation.

We're they planning to reroute I-49 onto MO 249/171?

That's the rebadge that should happen.  Just need the money for a proper Carthage interchange.  Rebadge I-49 from Carthage to I-44, and I-49 is complete in Missouri.  Until enough folks in KC,MO either pass on or grow tired of Bruce Watkins, anyway.

I found the pdf of the Amendment 7 project list that I downloaded back in 2014. Here's what they had for that project. It probably will cost more than $62.44 million now (I don't have time to post the screenshot so I just copied the text from that pdf)

QuoteImprove Rte 249 and Rte 171 to interstate standards from I-44 to Carthage    Jasper     Road and Bridge    $62.44
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US71

Quote from: I-39 on March 02, 2021, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on March 02, 2021, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: MikieTimT on March 02, 2021, 08:59:01 AM
And can't wait for Missouri to fix the I-49 clusterf**k around Joplin/Carthage.  Only needs a northern interchange and a rebadge.

I remember that project was one of the ones they said they would do when they tried to pass Amendment 7 (temporary sales tax increase) back in 2014. I wonder how much of a priority it is for MODOT now that they're mostly focused on preservation.

We're they planning to reroute I-49 onto MO 249/171?

It's been talked about for a while, but old 71 (now 171) would need to be upgraded
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silverback1065

i thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?

US71

Quote from: silverback1065 on March 02, 2021, 05:25:14 PM
i thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?

That is what I have heard, but I know of no plans to upgrade 171/old 71
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I-39

Quote from: US71 on March 02, 2021, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on March 02, 2021, 05:25:14 PM
i thought 49 just was going straight down to 44 then jumps over an exit west. it's supposed to use 249?

That is what I have heard, but I know of no plans to upgrade 171/old 71

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing that needs to be done for this to happen is a free flow interchange from the existing I-49 mainline to MO 171, right?



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