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Title: NY Parkways
Post by: Duke87 on December 14, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
Couple observations to address pertaining to the recent additions:

- The Henry Hudson Parkway becomes the Saw Mill Parkway at the Bronx/Westchester county line, not at exit 24. Signage in the field clearly shows this (http://i.imgur.com/rB9uafg.jpg) (Yonkers is in Westchester county), and just about every map I have ever seen concurs. This means the former needs an extension and the latter a truncation.

- No waypoint for exit 7 on the Cross County? It is awfully close to exit 6, sure, but it is signed separately and has a different destination.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: yakra on December 15, 2015, 01:24:42 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on December 14, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
- The Henry Hudson Parkway becomes the Saw Mill Parkway at the Bronx/Westchester county line, not at exit 24. Signage in the field clearly shows this (http://i.imgur.com/rB9uafg.jpg) (Yonkers is in Westchester county), and just about every map I have ever seen concurs. This means the former needs an extension and the latter a truncation.
Thanks. I will add this to an in-progress NYC-area update.

Quote from: Duke87 on December 14, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
- No waypoint for exit 7 on the Cross County? It is awfully close to exit 6, sure, but it is signed separately and has a different destination.
This is a result of the One Point Per Interchange guideline. As for what exactly One Interchange is, that can be wibbly-wobbly at times; it's a judgment call. I decided it was entirely within the footprint of the Exit 6 interchange, being accessed by the same C/D road.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: english si on December 15, 2015, 07:12:12 AM
Do we want to split them off usanf into their own system (usanyp)?
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: Jim on December 15, 2015, 01:04:18 PM
Quote from: english si on December 15, 2015, 07:12:12 AM
Do we want to split them off usanf into their own system (usanyp)?

That would make sense to me.  We're expanding beyond "freeway" portions now.  There are a couple routes like the FDR Drive that probably remain in usasf.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: vdeane on December 15, 2015, 03:15:22 PM
I actually have a sheet of paper in my reference route binder listing FDR Drive as part of the parkway system.  Of course, no two sources listing NY parkways are exactly the same, which makes things interesting.  There's also the question of what to do about parkways that are locally owned and don't have reference route numbers.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: NE2 on December 15, 2015, 03:29:54 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 15, 2015, 03:15:22 PM
I actually have a sheet of paper in my reference route binder listing FDR Drive as part of the parkway system.
http://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/operating/oom/transportation-systems/repository/2012%20tour-bk.pdf (p. 71)
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: yakra on December 15, 2015, 05:52:47 PM
Checked earlier today and the only routes that I recall without the word "parkway" in the name (FDR drive, Robert Moses ParkCauseway) were on Wikipedia's [citation needed] list of NY parkways.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 15, 2015, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: yakra on December 15, 2015, 05:52:47 PMwithout the word "parkway" in the name

Robert Moses Parkway?

You mean Robert Moses Causeway?
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: vdeane on December 15, 2015, 07:12:47 PM
Also Harlem River Drive.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: Duke87 on December 15, 2015, 07:59:07 PM
As I recall the FDR and Harlem River Drives were included in the list of "parkways" slated to get a new style of shield, although I don't have a link handy. Thus far the Henry Hudson design as depicted in my photo linked above is the only one that has actually started being posted.

Might as well move 'em over if we're creating usanyp, I say.
Title: Re: NY Parkways
Post by: yakra on December 16, 2015, 12:37:37 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 15, 2015, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: yakra on December 15, 2015, 05:52:47 PMwithout the word "parkway" in the name

Robert Moses Parkway?

You mean Robert Moses Causeway?

Yes, Causeway.