I live in Texas, which isn't very helpful for what is on the other side of the state line. When I think of signage on BGSes near state lines for exits in another state, I think of Arizona's signage in Yuma on Interstate 8 for California State Highway 186, and the previous sign for Business Loop 8 that is actually made to CalTrans specs.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.724371,-114.614709&spn=0.000986,0.001525&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=32.724288,-114.614649&panoid=6LLnSj4EEpwnPyBO6mvnNA&cbp=12,328.38,,1,-1.72
Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?
Indiana for Illinois along westbound I-80/94, Borman Expressway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_0774.jpg&hash=9e64cb742247a4a2fa68ff08a970ecc01037d223) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_0774.jpg.html)
The sign is all Indiana specs.
Missouri for Illinois, I-270 eastbound:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2328.jpg&hash=0d077339d2aa7111049ac1f4b436812fe9dc3492) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2328.jpg.html)
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
I live in Texas, which isn't very helpful for what is on the other side of the state line. When I think of signage on BGSes near state lines for exits in another state, I think of Arizona's signage in Yuma on Interstate 8 for California State Highway 186, and the previous sign for Business Loop 8 that is actually made to CalTrans specs.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.724371,-114.614709&spn=0.000986,0.001525&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=32.724288,-114.614649&panoid=6LLnSj4EEpwnPyBO6mvnNA&cbp=12,328.38,,1,-1.72
Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?
not weird, but in the other direction - California has clearly Arizona-made signs for Exit 1 on I-8 eastbound.
also, "to AZ-95" is signed through Needles, thanks to Arizona.
Taken in 2000, here's a PennDOT sign for NYS Thruway Exit 61. The sign has been replaced since this photo, twice actually. There is currently a Clearview sign in its place.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpnearl.com%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fbackup%2Fassets%2FEXIT61.jpg&hash=6e315c08c2b9b32d3bc002645e07263040b55629)
Another one I thought of is eastbound Interstate 10 near the New Mexico/Texas state line, in New Mexico for Exit 0, which is FM 1905, signed in New Mexico and to TxDOT standards:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=32.005178,-106.582894&spn=0.001406,0.00305&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=32.005366,-106.582895&panoid=kXsGLUVRjDZ0jdD1wtfKwQ&cbp=12,214.04,,0,-0.81
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-84/e.html
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?
Maryland and Virginia do a generally decent job of informing motorists of destinations and interchanges on the other side of the border. Especially on I-95 approaching the Wilson Bridge, but also on I-495 approaching the American Legion Bridge.
Even approaching the border on U.S. 13 (the only place where a major highway crosses the Md./Va. border that does not include a bridge over the Potomac River) the signs are pretty good.
Virginia's mileage signs on U.S. 301 northbound frequently include Baltimore as a destination, even though it has been
many years since 301 actually was routed to Charm City. There are at least four or five Maryland (MdTA) signs on Virginia soil approaching the Gov. Harry Nice Bridge on 301 northbound.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on July 16, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
Can anyone think of weird signage in one state for stuff in the adjoining state?
Maryland and Virginia do a generally decent job of informing motorists of destinations and interchanges on the other side of the border. Especially on I-95 approaching the Wilson Bridge, but also on I-495 approaching the American Legion Bridge.
Even approaching the border on U.S. 13 (the only place where a major highway crosses the Md./Va. border that does not include a bridge over the Potomac River) the signs are pretty good.
Virginia's mileage signs on U.S. 301 northbound frequently include Baltimore as a destination, even though it has been many years since 301 actually was routed to Charm City. There are at least four or five Maryland (MdTA) signs on Virginia soil approaching the Gov. Harry Nice Bridge on 301 northbound.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F72e61cd3.png&hash=4caea2f62aa55bd175e5c39b6776baa24c5636db)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F1ec67cdb.png&hash=b8d393a34cfb521cd55b658463d71ddc51d9c437)
Maryland's advance signage for the Wilson Bridge at one point had the wrong route number (and shield) for Van Dorn Street in Virginia. The erroneous shield was a correct-looking Virginia primary route shield. It's since been fixed with the correct number in a secondary route circle.
I know this one has been controversial here:
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I 91 SB just about to leave Longmeadow MA, MassDOT sign for CT Exit 49
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=i91+southbound+longmeadow&hl=en&ll=42.027715,-72.590382&spn=0.013198,0.027874&sll=42.033955,-72.133581&sspn=0.106081,0.222988&t=h&hq=i91+southbound&hnear=Longmeadow,+Hampden,+Massachusetts&z=16&layer=c&cbll=42.028587,-72.590375&panoid=KNJij00CMA1CDSNDp9URAw&cbp=12,210.48,,0,-5.47
I 84 WB in Sturbridge MA about to Enter CT, CT Exit 74 Signage by MassDOT
The Exit referenced is in CT, however the destination cities are both MA and CT towns.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=i+84+sturbridge,+ma&hl=en&ll=42.034122,-72.133312&spn=0.105571,0.222988&sll=41.986475,-72.306204&sspn=0.211299,0.445976&t=h&hnear=Interstate+84,+Sturbridge,+Worcester,+Massachusetts&z=13&layer=c&cbll=42.033955,-72.133581&panoid=GcGb-WHuJmbVDuf8c6VGgg&cbp=12,244.36,,0,-3.6
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 16, 2013, 07:18:37 PMnot weird, but in the other direction - California has clearly Arizona-made signs for Exit 1 on I-8 eastbound.
This sign on California I-8 eastbound just outside the Exit 172 advance guide signing sequence is also Arizona-made:
Yuma
NEXT 6
EXITS (https://maps.google.com/?t=m&layer=c&cbll=32.734277,-114.638879&panoid=ShMFQ7_Av9ePjOHzTW2jdw&cbp=12,95.47,,0,3.34&ie=UTF8&ll=32.73426,-114.638772&spn=0.009151,0.01929&z=16&vpsrc=6)
The sign message is typical of Arizona DOT and the sign itself is erected on California soil using a standard Arizona DOT extruded aluminum substrate with green retroreflective sheeting but mounted California-style to wooden posts. (Inside Arizona, ground-mounted freeway guide signs are typically supported on breakaway steel posts.) The legend is still Series E Modified in button copy since the sign was erected in 1998 before ADOT abandoned button copy, and was not replaced as part of the later Clearview signing upgrades.
I-81 South in West Virginia, heading into Virginia (there is also a sign northbound heading into Maryland).
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Winchester,+VA&hl=en&ll=39.30669,-78.079094&spn=0.001106,0.002411&sll=41.117935,-77.604698&sspn=4.377622,9.876709&oq=Winchester&t=h&hnear=Winchester,+Virginia&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.306896,-78.079081&panoid=BmZdpZaYnRWrsef3o396Xw&cbp=12,216.36,,0,9.51
Quote from: Brandon on July 16, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
Indiana for Illinois along westbound I-80/94, Borman Expressway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_0774.jpg&hash=9e64cb742247a4a2fa68ff08a970ecc01037d223) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_0774.jpg.html)
The sign is all Indiana specs.
Also, INDOT understands what direction I-94 goes when it gets to the Bishop Ford.
Interstate Bridge (I-5; OR/WA)
Oregon Exit in Washington (WSDOT Spec) (http://"http://goo.gl/maps/Douat")
Washington Exit in Oregon (WSDOT Spec; ODOT mounting design) (http://"http://goo.gl/maps/WJpZt")
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Glenn Jackson Bridge (I-205; WA/OR)
Washington Exit in Oregon (ODOT Spec) (http://"http://goo.gl/maps/ZV9ky")
Washington Exit in Washington (ODOT Spec; the entire bridge's signing and street lighting is done by ODOT). (http://"https://maps.google.com/maps?q=vancouver,+wa&ll=45.601067,-122.550915&spn=0.017445,0.042272&hnear=Vancouver,+Clark,+Washington&gl=us&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=45.601067,-122.550915&panoid=mAjUHRAP2x7oT7XdDrCK6g&cbp=12,353.47,,1,-2.28")
Oregon Exit in Washington (ODOT Spec) (http://"http://goo.gl/maps/70gqg")
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California-Oregon Border (I-5)
Not quite a BGS, but here's an ODOT VMS (and an ODOT gantry!!) about 2 miles in CalTrans territory.
http://goo.gl/maps/sTIkD
CalTrans tends to be consistent with their gantries and tubular varients.
And to complement INDOT's Indiana-style Illinois highway shield on the Borman, IDOT has an Illinois-style Indiana highway shield on the Kingery to the west of the state line.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.577692,-87.532185&spn=0.00451,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.577689,-87.534131&panoid=Av0alAwFCw7vtn9YKFEcDQ&cbp=12,88.41,,0,-3.62
I don't think it is really that uncommon to have signs for an upcoming exit in an adjoining state, but anways:
* One on I-72 in Missouri for IL 106:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.718652,-91.362822&spn=0.001756,0.004128&t=m&layer=c&cbll=39.718588,-91.363042&panoid=Xob6-chgd-kR5B8anD9aBA&cbp=12,79.87,,0,3.45&z=19 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.718652,-91.362822&spn=0.001756,0.004128&t=m&layer=c&cbll=39.718588,-91.363042&panoid=Xob6-chgd-kR5B8anD9aBA&cbp=12,79.87,,0,3.45&z=19)
* One on I-72 in Illinois for MO 79:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.724072,-91.347134&spn=0.007022,0.016512&t=m&layer=c&cbll=39.72399,-91.347381&panoid=TGT7Z3qehPoO3ZQ9spvnIQ&cbp=12,257.86,,0,7.84&z=17 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.724072,-91.347134&spn=0.007022,0.016512&t=m&layer=c&cbll=39.72399,-91.347381&panoid=TGT7Z3qehPoO3ZQ9spvnIQ&cbp=12,257.86,,0,7.84&z=17)
* One on EB I-255 in Missouri for IL 3:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.49172,-90.293422&spn=0.005053,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=38.49172,-90.293422&panoid=NK6SN09VWpqXQbxRUDL5iA&cbp=12,104.18,,0,-1.46&z=18 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.49172,-90.293422&spn=0.005053,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=38.49172,-90.293422&panoid=NK6SN09VWpqXQbxRUDL5iA&cbp=12,104.18,,0,-1.46&z=18)
* I'm pretty sure there will be some for the new I-70 Mississippi crossing in St. Louis.
* WB I-80 in Illinois for the exit to US 67 in Iowa:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.574714,-90.361562&spn=0.027321,0.066047&t=m&layer=c&cbll=41.574959,-90.361698&panoid=UugSuIJ5jhTlGdk7D5haqw&cbp=12,0.06,,0,0&z=15 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.574714,-90.361562&spn=0.027321,0.066047&t=m&layer=c&cbll=41.574959,-90.361698&panoid=UugSuIJ5jhTlGdk7D5haqw&cbp=12,0.06,,0,0&z=15)
* A couple on EB I-94 in Wisconsin for the first two exits into Illinois (may have been replaced; can't recall the exact sign sequence at this moment)
https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.504392,-87.951623&spn=0.003366,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=42.504392,-87.951623&panoid=RG7D9bDeOheJIetmW2QPaw&cbp=12,184.2,,0,-6.84&z=18 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.504392,-87.951623&spn=0.003366,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=42.504392,-87.951623&panoid=RG7D9bDeOheJIetmW2QPaw&cbp=12,184.2,,0,-6.84&z=18)
https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.533366,-87.95231&spn=0.004757,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=42.533433,-87.951962&panoid=FF_Jtts7RcmrPq9psW-RQA&cbp=12,212.9,,1,-4.15&z=18 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.533366,-87.95231&spn=0.004757,0.008256&t=k&layer=c&cbll=42.533433,-87.951962&panoid=FF_Jtts7RcmrPq9psW-RQA&cbp=12,212.9,,1,-4.15&z=18)
* One on EB I-70 near the Indiana border:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=marshall,+il&hl=en&ll=39.429232,-87.567286&spn=0.028077,0.066047&sll=41.229217,-95.92206&sspn=0.054933,0.132093&hnear=Marshall,+Clark,+Illinois&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.429232,-87.567286&panoid=xaJcuKT-AGvNZbWlYOb0xw&cbp=12,97.49,,0,-5.67 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=marshall,+il&hl=en&ll=39.429232,-87.567286&spn=0.028077,0.066047&sll=41.229217,-95.92206&sspn=0.054933,0.132093&hnear=Marshall,+Clark,+Illinois&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.429232,-87.567286&panoid=xaJcuKT-AGvNZbWlYOb0xw&cbp=12,97.49,,0,-5.67)
Quote from: tdindy88 on July 16, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
And to complement INDOT's Indiana-style Illinois highway shield on the Borman, IDOT has an Illinois-style Indiana highway shield on the Kingery to the west of the state line.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.577692,-87.532185&spn=0.00451,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.577689,-87.534131&panoid=Av0alAwFCw7vtn9YKFEcDQ&cbp=12,88.41,,0,-3.62
Once across the border in Indiana, the state highway marker for SR 152 is still Illinois-style. When the Kingery/Borman was rebuilt, IDOT managed the project up to Calumet Ave. in Indiana.
Google Maps street view (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.576188,-87.522403&spn=0.000003,0.001234&t=h&layer=c&cbll=41.576188,-87.522403&panoid=--IAYzae9smzmpB5ATfsVA&cbp=12,104.12,,1,-6.33&z=20)
I-65 in Jeffersonville has a sign for the I-64/71 exit in Louisville.
I-64 in New Albany has a sign for the I-264 exit in Louisville.
Coming the reverse direction, there are signs for the Indiana exits on the bridges, but I have no idea if those signs are Indiana's or Kentucky's.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I-65 in Jeffersonville has a sign for the I-64/71 exit in Louisville.
I-64 in New Albany has a sign for the I-264 exit in Louisville.
Coming the reverse direction, there are signs for the Indiana exits on the bridges, but I have no idea if those signs are Indiana's or Kentucky's.
The signs on the I-65 bridge are Kentucky's, you can tell because they are in Clearview. The signs on the I-64 bridge are Indiana's, you can tell because they are NOT in Clearview.
Quote from: NE2 on July 16, 2013, 07:38:04 PM
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-84/e.html
I'm a tad surprised that there isn't a pic of a NYSDOT spec'd BGS for Saw Mill Road (CT Exit 1, 1-mile notice) on that page. The exit is located just east of the NY-CT border. There's also a NYSDOT spec'd BGS listing mileages to Danbury and Hartford.
Along I-95 in both directions at the MA-NH border; there are NHDOT spec'd BGS for MA 286 (Exit 60) and I-495 (Exit 59) interchanges and MassDOT spec'd BGS for the NH 107 (Exit 1) interchange.
Similarly along I-95 southbound just before the RI-MA border there are MassDPW (mid-to-late 70s vintage) spec'd BGS for RI Exits 30 (Roosevelt Ave.) & 29 (RI 114).
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ri/i-95/2.html (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ri/i-95/2.html)
Once upon a time, there used to be a RIDOT spec'd BGS for the 2-mile notice of MA Exits 2A-B for MA 1A (though RIDOT uses a US 1A shield) that simply listed Newport Ave. as its control destination.
In PA along I-95 southbound near the PA-DE border, who can forget the PennDOT spec'd diagrametric BGS for I-495 (DE Exit 11).
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/i-95/s.html (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/i-95/s.html)
Conversely, in DE along I-95 northbound, there's a mileage BGS listing for PA 452 (w/Keystone shield).
I-287 just south of I-87/NY Thruway near the the NY-NJ state line: Diagrametric BGS' in both NYSDOT & NJDOT spec's.
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-287/s1.html (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-287/s1.html)
Along I-287 north approaching the same area (note: the NYSDOT spec'd
New England USE 87 NORTH TO 84 EAST BGS is actually located in NJ).
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-287/n2.html (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-287/n2.html)
Quote from: tdindy88 on July 17, 2013, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 17, 2013, 07:43:51 AM
I-65 in Jeffersonville has a sign for the I-64/71 exit in Louisville.
I-64 in New Albany has a sign for the I-264 exit in Louisville.
Coming the reverse direction, there are signs for the Indiana exits on the bridges, but I have no idea if those signs are Indiana's or Kentucky's.
The signs on the I-65 bridge are Kentucky's, you can tell because they are in Clearview. The signs on the I-64 bridge are Indiana's, you can tell because they are NOT in Clearview.
Thanks. Font is not something I pay particularly close attention to. As long as it isn't Comic Sans, I don't really care.
How could I forget in El Paso, there are several trailblazers for Mexico Fedral Highway 45, but they look like Texas state highway shields with "MEXICO" written where "TEXAS" would be.
Quote from: mukade on July 16, 2013, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 16, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
Indiana for Illinois along westbound I-80/94, Borman Expressway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_0774.jpg&hash=9e64cb742247a4a2fa68ff08a970ecc01037d223) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_0774.jpg.html)
The sign is all Indiana specs.
Also, INDOT understands what direction I-94 goes when it gets to the Bishop Ford.
Probably because it would be weird to see that sign read IL 394 SOUTH and I-94 WEST.
A couple more from OR/WA:
I-205 North (Glenn Jackson Bridge) distance sign with Oregon's take on a SR-14 shield - http://goo.gl/maps/7poIO
I-5 North (Interstate Bridge), looks like a hybrid of ODOT/WSDOT specs, right at the state line - http://goo.gl/maps/9wO5k
I-82 East, OR exit on the WA side, WSDOT specs. I don't know why a "TO" is included on there when that exit does put you directly on US-395 and US-730 - http://goo.gl/maps/oChsY
ID/OR:
US-95 Spur (not really a BGS, but ODOT specs in ID) - http://goo.gl/maps/XR13v
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2009_Milford_PA_Day_2%2FImages%2F84.jpg&hash=e74dbecdfb4e2534b00d92270746f2e2209a1532)
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One that stands out in my memory from my childhood is the signage on westbound I-64 in West Virginia approaching the Kentucky state line. Advance exit signage for the US 23 exit also included a KY 3 route marker, but once you got into Kentucky, there was no signage for KY 3.
Quote from: hbelkins on July 17, 2013, 01:14:51 PM
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I always like this version. :)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpnearl.com%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fbackup%2Fassets%2FEXIT87-1.jpg&hash=bb16e991fb23be129b5650ae9d4ffeeccf37c6cc)
I like how on I-95 at the South of the Border Interchange on the NC-SC State Line there is a gantry SB for both exits put up by NC, while the other one just over the State Border is put up by SC in both cases using their very own methods of signing.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=South+of+the+Border,+SC&hl=en&ll=34.50485,-79.304187&spn=0.004262,0.008122&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=8.300816,14.128418&oq=South+of+t&t=h&hnear=South+of+the+Border,+Dillon,+South+Carolina&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.504619,-79.304518&panoid=7PvmYU7iX3ZAeNjO1omOQw&cbp=12,207.67,,0,0
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=South+of+the+Border,+SC&hl=en&ll=34.501075,-79.309455&spn=0.004297,0.008122&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=8.300816,14.128418&oq=South+of+t&t=h&hnear=South+of+the+Border,+Dillon,+South+Carolina&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.501212,-79.309196&panoid=0Z-smtivVJlw8CBmXIMYLw&cbp=12,265.84,,0,0
US 301/501 are not state highways, though, but on the NC sign the ramp for Exit 1A is a SC exit and technically the two route concurrency is a state highway.
Sign for KY SR 8 in Downtown Cincinnati, before Fort Washington Way traffic merges in:
http://goo.gl/maps/XnTwm
I-471 Northbound approaching the Big Mac Bridge in Kentucky:
http://goo.gl/maps/91OKv
(NOTE: These are likely to be out of date, as roadwork has been in progress on I-471 the last couple of years.)
Signs for Covington, KY exits 192 and 191 on the Brent Spence Bridge where I-71 and I-75 merge downtown:
http://goo.gl/maps/Lnyin
Approaching the Brent Spence in the other direction on I-75/71:
http://goo.gl/maps/nR2DO
CT for NYS on I-95 SB in Byram, CT
https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/connecticut095/i-095_sb_exit_000_02.jpg
On EB I-20, signage for Mississippi Exits 1A and 1B on the Louisiana side of the river. Not sure who's responsible for these, as some of the signage for LA Exit 186 is in Clearview as well.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Delta,+LA&ll=32.318074,-90.914247&spn=0.009411,0.021136&hnear=Delta,+Madison,+Louisiana&gl=us&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.317761,-90.913564&panoid=ZcDKF9YIYoLqpR9ov8hlFg&cbp=12,128.23,,0,-22.5
The first exit in North Carolina on I-85 southbound is in Virginia. Pardon the glare.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Vs-HwYuFg0Q/T7qlE4pk-cI/AAAAAAAACQ8/oUntNAW48s4/s816/DSC00837.JPG)
There is an RIDOT 1-mile advance sign on I-95 SB for CT Exit 93.
There is a MassDOT 1-mile advance sign on I-395 SB for CT exit 100.
The newer small green signs on the Delaware Memorial Bridge NB are for the 295/NJ Turnpike Split in NJ. Over 3/4 of that bridge is in Delaware, including where most of those signs are mounted. (Delaware's state jurisdiction includes ALL of the Delaware river in that area).
There used to be small signs showing where the state line was, but they've been missing for many, many years.
Not sure if this counts, since the sign is technically in Maine for a Maine exit, but since this is a New Hampshire DOT sign, I'll post it. This is on I-95 northbound on the Piscataqua River Bridge.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8096%2F8596905146_8fe3dbff6e_z.jpg&hash=2591403e30ec556d50e57b14cc8d5375a5c0cf67)
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 17, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
How could I forget in El Paso, there are several trailblazers for Mexico Fedral Highway 45, but they look like Texas state highway shields with "MEXICO" written where "TEXAS" would be.
Do you have pics or street view links?
I have a picture. I will have to dig it up.
Quote from: kphoger on July 18, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 17, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
How could I forget in El Paso, there are several trailblazers for Mexico Fedral Highway 45, but they look like Texas state highway shields with "MEXICO" written where "TEXAS" would be.
Do you have pics or street view links?
Last pic on http://www.usends.com/Focus/ElPaso/index.html.
There are the BSGs on the Oregon end of the Interstate Bridge to Washington that mention the first exits on the other side.
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/oregon005/i-005_nb_exit_308_06.jpg)
Surprised nobody has mentioned this ADOT sign for the Ehrenburg/Parker exit on I-10 east in California...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2844%2F9314500637_583698ab2d_c.jpg&hash=3d674da24d6c1f115cce5782d0309bff2d88899d)
I want to say that there's a mileage sign on SB I-15 in NW Arizona that mentions distances to Mesquite, Glendale, Las Vegas, and the junction with US-93...all of which lie in Nevada.
EDIT: OK, it doesn't mention Glendale, but you do have Mesquite, US-93 (shield!), and Las Vegas...http://goo.gl/maps/tjhcJ. Hopefully it hasn't been updated to use Clearview.
Quote from: TEG24601 on July 18, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
There are the BSGs on the Oregon end of the Interstate Bridge to Washington that mention the first exits on the other side.
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/oregon005/i-005_nb_exit_308_06.jpg)
The others are here. ;) (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9922.msg233326#msg233326)
I'm sure it's been discussed elsewhere on the forums, but there's this overhead on the Pennsylvania Turnpike at King of Prussia.
http://bit.ly/112qimH (http://bit.ly/112qimH)
It's always puzzled me that there would a pull through for a road that's still over 30 miles away–and that the signs would completely ignore the designation of through lanes (I-276). With the NJ Turnpike shield haphazardly slapped over what I imagine is an I-276 shield, no less. I don't think I've seen any NJ Turnpike shields further east in PA–even over in Bristol.
And if I recall, the NJTA is vague about posting shields on the east-west connector.
Quote from: briantroutman on July 18, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed elsewhere on the forums, but there's this overhead on the Pennsylvania Turnpike at King of Prussia.
http://bit.ly/112qimH (http://bit.ly/112qimH)
It's always puzzled me that there would a pull through for a road that's still over 30 miles away–and that the signs would completely ignore the designation of through lanes (I-276). With the NJ Turnpike shield haphazardly slapped over what I imagine is an I-276 shield, no less. I don't think I've seen any NJ Turnpike shields further east in PA–even over in Bristol.
And if I recall, the NJTA is vague about posting shields on the east-west connector.
That sign has been replaced. There is now a separate roadside sign that says traffic to the NJ Turnpike should follow I-276.
Quote from: Sanctimoniously on July 17, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
On EB I-20, signage for Mississippi Exits 1A and 1B on the Louisiana side of the river. Not sure who's responsible for these, as some of the signage for LA Exit 186 is in Clearview as well.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Delta,+LA&ll=32.318074,-90.914247&spn=0.009411,0.021136&hnear=Delta,+Madison,+Louisiana&gl=us&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=32.317761,-90.913564&panoid=ZcDKF9YIYoLqpR9ov8hlFg&cbp=12,128.23,,0,-22.5
Looks like an all-LADOTD installation. The gantry is another clue (even though I have seen MDOT use this style gantry in Laurel).
Quote from: NE2 on July 18, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 18, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 17, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
How could I forget in El Paso, there are several trailblazers for Mexico Fedral Highway 45, but they look like Texas state highway shields with "MEXICO" written where "TEXAS" would be.
Do you have pics or street view links?
Last pic on http://www.usends.com/Focus/ElPaso/index.html.
That sign is hilarious. :)
Quote from: briantroutman on July 18, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed elsewhere on the forums, but there's this overhead on the Pennsylvania Turnpike at King of Prussia.
http://bit.ly/112qimH (http://bit.ly/112qimH)
It's always puzzled me that there would a pull through for a road that's still over 30 miles awayand that the signs would completely ignore the designation of through lanes (I-276). With the NJ Turnpike shield haphazardly slapped over what I imagine is an I-276 shield, no less. I don't think I've seen any NJ Turnpike shields further east in PAeven over in Bristol.
And if I recall, the NJTA is vague about posting shields on the east-west connector.
A long-awaited correction was finally made with that pull-thorugh BGS. There's now just an I-276 shield. However, there's a supplemental sign (not sure if it would be considered a BGS) erected shortly before the interchange that reads in a vertical fashion:
NJTP *shield*
USE
EAST
276 *shield*
IMHO, much more appropriate.
Quote from: briantroutman on July 18, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed elsewhere on the forums, but there's this overhead on the Pennsylvania Turnpike at King of Prussia.
http://bit.ly/112qimH (http://bit.ly/112qimH)
It's always puzzled me that there would a pull through for a road that's still over 30 miles awayand that the signs would completely ignore the designation of through lanes (I-276). With the NJ Turnpike shield haphazardly slapped over what I imagine is an I-276 shield, no less. I don't think I've seen any NJ Turnpike shields further east in PAeven over in Bristol.
And if I recall, the NJTA is vague about posting shields on the east-west connector.
On the North-South mainline, there are now an I-276 shield for Exit 6 & the words 'Penn Turnpike'.
http://goo.gl/maps/fUhXD
The offset is due to the greenover, with the I-95 shield underneath.
On US 130, there's an actual Penna Turnpike shield directing traffic onto the NJ Turnpike Extension WB.
Quote from: luokou on July 17, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
I-82 East, OR exit on the WA side, WSDOT specs. I don't know why a "TO" is included on there when that exit does put you directly on US-395 and US-730 - http://goo.gl/maps/oChsY
There must be something with that area, because the following pull-through sign on the Oregon side of the bridge has an Interstate 84 (not 82) shield on it.
Here's one in Nevada, clearly applicable to California.
It's a sign on US 395 southbound just past the Minden/Gardnerville (https://www.aaroads.com/west/nevada395/us-395_sb_gardnerville_34.jpg) (pic taken & hosted by AARoads). It notes whether mountain passes over the Sierra Nevada on certain California state routes are open--they can be subject to snow closures.
The sign is made to Caltrans specs, evidenced by the wood posts (which NDOT doesn't use for permanent signs), but is located in Nevada--it is about 17 miles north of the California border.
Stolen from Steve's website, an advance sign for Exit 1 on A-40, erected by the MTO in Ontario:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fon%2Ftch_417%2Fe1.jpg&hash=40d89d3155a90d9e637630f129f8771d30e0f636)
CR 14 is not signed on the Québec side.
On A-20 / ON 401, advance signs for the welcome centres on each side of the border have been put up in the other province. Going Ontario-bound, MTO has snuck their own signs into Québec on A-20, and on the Québec-bound 401, the MTO more or less attempted to mimick a Québec-style welcome centre sign (https://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.204213,-74.356595&spn=0.006206,0.009645&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=45.204288,-74.356448&panoid=riMO-748ooQJwtH0myuQew&cbp=12,65.27,,0,11.71), although it's obvious who made it. The sign that predates this one was more faithful to what MTQ does and may have been made by them.
I've noticed in Texarkana, the signs for the State Line Avenue exit are TxDOT specs, even approaching from the Arkansas side. I guess it's because the exit is numbered 224A-B in the Texas mileage system.
I think also the BGS 1-mile sign for Exit 1 on the Arkansas side is on the Texas side and also TxDOT spec.
The spur for Arizona State Route 95 in Parker, AZ has a sign for CA-62, which connects Parker, AZ & Twentynine Palms, CA via Joshua Tree National Park.
https://www.aaroads.com/california/images062/az-095_nb_app_az-095s_01.jpg
on old US-12 near Walla Walla. Seems WSDOT didn't want to go through the trouble of cutting out the Oregon shield shape - http://goo.gl/maps/WNwcM
Quote from: Road Hog on July 26, 2013, 12:44:33 AM
I've noticed in Texarkana, the signs for the State Line Avenue exit are TxDOT specs, even approaching from the Arkansas side. I guess it's because the exit is numbered 224A-B in the Texas mileage system.
I think also the BGS 1-mile sign for Exit 1 on the Arkansas side is on the Texas side and also TxDOT spec.
There is also a "FM 245" shield (http://goo.gl/maps/RTSNe) for the exit for AR 245 in Texas going eastbound on I-30. Now AR 245 isn't signed at that exit, though.
Quote from: codyg1985 on July 26, 2013, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on July 26, 2013, 12:44:33 AM
I've noticed in Texarkana, the signs for the State Line Avenue exit are TxDOT specs, even approaching from the Arkansas side. I guess it's because the exit is numbered 224A-B in the Texas mileage system.
I think also the BGS 1-mile sign for Exit 1 on the Arkansas side is on the Texas side and also TxDOT spec.
There is also a "FM 245" shield (http://goo.gl/maps/RTSNe) for the exit for AR 245 in Texas going eastbound on I-30. Now AR 245 isn't signed at that exit, though.
It appears the eastbound gore point is also a Texas sign:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.470052,-94.041376&spn=0.001955,0.00305&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=33.470036,-94.041096&panoid=phlRvBJqZggrbWykAPxksA&cbp=12,86.43,,0,-3.37
How about for a rest area? This is in Indiana for Illinois on I-64 westbound. No idea who put it up, IDOT or InDOT.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3463_zpsa32eeab2.jpg&hash=c9a862fbc059fad7694f18a9030a6c9aa82abda1) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3463_zpsa32eeab2.jpg.html)
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2013, 04:12:48 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on July 26, 2013, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on July 26, 2013, 12:44:33 AM
I've noticed in Texarkana, the signs for the State Line Avenue exit are TxDOT specs, even approaching from the Arkansas side. I guess it's because the exit is numbered 224A-B in the Texas mileage system.
I think also the BGS 1-mile sign for Exit 1 on the Arkansas side is on the Texas side and also TxDOT spec.
There is also a "FM 245" shield (http://goo.gl/maps/RTSNe) for the exit for AR 245 in Texas going eastbound on I-30. Now AR 245 isn't signed at that exit, though.
It appears the eastbound gore point is also a Texas sign:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.470052,-94.041376&spn=0.001955,0.00305&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=33.470036,-94.041096&panoid=phlRvBJqZggrbWykAPxksA&cbp=12,86.43,,0,-3.37
Yep. Looks like the contractor who rebuilt that section of freeway did just about everything in TxDOT spec.
Quote from: Brandon on July 28, 2013, 08:42:22 PM
How about for a rest area? This is in Indiana for Illinois on I-64 westbound. No idea who put it up, IDOT or InDOT.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3463_zpsa32eeab2.jpg&hash=c9a862fbc059fad7694f18a9030a6c9aa82abda1) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3463_zpsa32eeab2.jpg.html)
That has to be an INDOT sign. I-64 in Illinois uses Clearview font IIRC and the rest area (not Welcome Center interestingly enough) is just west of the Wabash River prior to the IL-1 exit.
Here's an advance sign for SC 14 on I-26 in NC: http://goo.gl/maps/XJ91C
On the subject of Welcome Centers, at the Texas, New Mexico state line on I-10 there used to be a sign in each state informing drivers of the welcome center for the next state that I swear used to be "snuck" in by the state you were going into. For instatnce, driving westbound on I-10 about a mile and a half before you crossed into New Mexico there was a sign for the New Mexico Welcome Center that was classic NMDOT standards with the multiple poles and the wooden blue sign, and it's counterpart on the New Mexico was clearly a TxDOT sign.
Looks like westbound is a TxDOT sign since it is in Clearview:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=31.973328,-106.582647&spn=0.000703,0.001525&t=h&layer=c&cbll=31.973233,-106.582648&panoid=CjFBi2AXHtT2LTVmlXKRbg&cbp=12,21.14,,0,2.6&z=20
Also seeing how the New Mexico version of the same exit looks like this:
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=I-10+E&daddr=32.0124929,-106.5834956+to:I-10+E&hl=en&ll=32.003329,-106.582628&spn=0.001406,0.00305&sll=32.01267,-106.583495&sspn=0.001406,0.00305&geocode=FSiT6AEdDJ-l-Q%3BFcx46AEdOaql-SlnRYrF-ADehjGDI0ckPjlghQ%3BFfQi6AEdk6yl-Q&t=h&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=19&via=1&z=19&layer=c&cbll=32.003329,-106.582628&panoid=UWA4J47xf8f8BSOs8k26Ew&cbp=12,33.84,,1,-0.67
I can't seem to locate the sign going into Texas from New Mexico
The state line got a revamping about 5 years ago and a resigning project as well. But this sign has always been there and I thought it was strange that there was no comma between Anthony and TX, and a period even though the sign uses the postal abbreviation for Texas that doesn't require the period. Oh, NMDOT.
One last thing about this state line, on the actual state ling, the neighboring frontage road signs the state line to say that one state's maintenance begins and the other one ends. I know the sign on the far left is a TxDOT sign and the one to the right of that is a NMDOT sign, but it is funny because it looks confusing:
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=I-10+E&daddr=32.0124931,-106.5834957+to:I-10+E&hl=en&ll=32.000878,-106.583378&spn=0.005623,0.012199&sll=32.024755,-106.587494&sspn=0.002811,0.006099&geocode=FUet6AEdq5Ol-Q%3BFc146AEdOaql-SlnRYrF-ADehjGDI0ckPjlghQ%3BFfQi6AEdk6yl-Q&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=18&via=1&z=17&layer=c&cbll=32.000878,-106.583378&panoid=nZHr6AjOTdwJFzAUtOsXjA&cbp=12,133.7,,2,2.05
MoDOT snuck into Oklahoma to post signage for exit 1 in Missouri on I-44. The previous generation of signs did not have any approach signage, and since the exit is just into Missouri, you used to get a quick succession of Welcome to Missouri, Speed Limit 70, then the first mention of the exit, which was the exit direction sign.
There's lots of instances in Kansas City of KDOT and MoDOT mentioning each others' highways on their own signs, especially the next-three-exits signs in the medians of freeways. The DOTs stay on their own side of the border, making their signs to their own specs, though. However, they do tend to follow the other state's standards–MoDOT signs Kansas highways with the sunflower, and KDOT duly notes Missouri routes in text format as "Route 45" or whatever.
Quote from: Brandon on July 28, 2013, 08:42:22 PM
How about for a rest area? This is in Indiana for Illinois on I-64 westbound. No idea who put it up, IDOT or InDOT.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3463_zpsa32eeab2.jpg&hash=c9a862fbc059fad7694f18a9030a6c9aa82abda1) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3463_zpsa32eeab2.jpg.html)
This made me think of another Nevada DOT posting, relating to rest areas:
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/nevada080/i-080_wb_exit_040_02.jpg)
Image from AARoadsThis is on I-80 WB, just after leaving Fernley and approaching the westbound rest area at Wadsworth. The "Next Rest Area" references the Donner Summit rest area on I-80 in California.
It is about 30 miles to downtown Reno from the location of this sign...it's due to this that I've always had to pause and think about the need for this sign when driving by it.
Someone mentioned I-95 in MA/NH.
Going south from New Hampshire, it's normal.
Going north from Massachusetts, there is a problem. One sign thinks NH 107 is MA 107. You can see the MA shield instead of the NH shield. Once you enter New Hampshire, it's normal.
Quote from: 1 on August 10, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
Someone mentioned I-95 in MA/NH.
Going south from New Hampshire, it's normal.
Going north from Massachusetts, there is a problem. One sign thinks NH 107 is MA 107. You can see the MA shield instead of the NH shield. Once you enter New Hampshire, it's normal.
The sign in question: http://goo.gl/maps/giXVw
Definite MassDOT install.
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on August 11, 2013, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 10, 2013, 06:08:07 PM
Someone mentioned I-95 in MA/NH.
Going south from New Hampshire, it's normal.
Going north from Massachusetts, there is a problem. One sign thinks NH 107 is MA 107. You can see the MA shield instead of the NH shield. Once you enter New Hampshire, it's normal.
The sign in question: http://goo.gl/maps/giXVw
Definite MassDOT install.
Given the vintage of that particular BGS (1990s), it's MassHighway. :sombrero:
Anyway, it's not uncommon for adjacent states to use their own style shields for state highways when signing for such a route that's located in said-other state... particularly if one of the state shields involved is either square/rectangular or the generic MUTCD circular/oval (if 3-digits) shields. If one state has a more uniquely styled shield (NH's, NY's & PA's come immediately to mind) a neighboring state that is signing for a nearby exit outside of its border is less likely to reproduce a specially-designed (for that DOT) state route shield for said-highway.
OTOH, if
both states have unique shapes for state shields (PA-NY border comes to mind); then the extra effort will be made to duplicate the state highway shield for an adjacent state.
(https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0)I like the one on US 71 NB (State Line Avenue) in Texarkana where there is a TX Loop 14 shield for TX Loop 14, that is in Arkansas style of shield and not traditional TX style. It is on Arkansas side of the street, which is expected that AR places their own signs on their own side, but it is interesting to see them use their own style and yet respect the other state at the same time.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
(https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0)I like the one on US 71 NB (State Line Avenue) in Texarkana where there is a TX Loop 14 shield for TX Loop 14, that is in Arkansas style of shield and not traditional TX style. It is on Arkansas side of the street, which is expected that AR places their own signs on their own side, but it is interesting to see them use their own style and yet respect the other state at the same time.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0
That is so weird that you posted that about that sign in Texarkana. I was just thinking about that Loop 14 sign on the Arkansas side of the road and how it looks a tad bit off from the Texas version. I have a picture of it somewhere.
The signs for the last on-ramps on T.C.H. 104 before the Nova Scotia/New Brunswick border have T.C.H. 2 shields on them:
http://goo.gl/maps/QnLhv (Northbound on Fort Lawrence Rd.)
http://goo.gl/maps/6Bs2M (Southbound, same road)
http://goo.gl/maps/buh8y (Leaving the Nova Scotia Visitor Info Centre)
Coincidentally, the top half of the third sign is technically wrong - the road on the right is actually the northern terminus of Trunk 2, so it should read:
{2} [SOUTH] | [TO] [104] [EAST] {6} [SunriseTrail] [GloosecapTrail]
But, as you can see, it's already cramped with plates, so changing it is pointless.
Meanwhile, eastbound on the New Brunswick side, there's advance signage for T.C.H. 104 Exit 1A
Here (http://goo.gl/maps/2l4Ig)
Here (http://goo.gl/maps/QXCie)
And here (http://goo.gl/maps/wDfbz)
Also, here's a service sign on the N.B. side too (http://goo.gl/maps/2LwZG)
Quote from: Bud8Amp88 on August 12, 2013, 01:04:29 PM
Coincidentally[sic], the top half of the third sign is technically wrong - the road on the right is actually the northern terminus of Trunk 2, so it should read:
{2} [SOUTH] | [TO] [104] [EAST] {6} [SunriseTrail] [GloosecapTrail]
Judging by this sign and others, the actual beginning appears to be up ahead where it passes under 104.
Quote from: NE2 on August 12, 2013, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: Bud8Amp88 on August 12, 2013, 01:04:29 PM
The top half of the third sign is technically wrong - the road on the right is actually the northern terminus of Trunk 2, so it should read:
{2} [SOUTH] | [TO] [104] [EAST] {6} [SunriseTrail] [GloosecapTrail]
Judging by this sign and others, the actual beginning appears to be up ahead where it passes under 104.
That's usually how most maps show it (that, or where it meets Trunk 6 in Amherst), but looking down that road a little, you find THIS (http://goo.gl/maps/gTT8I) and THIS (http://goo.gl/maps/EeESZ), so the signage is technically wrong. Again, it's pointless to change it since most maps show the start point either where it crosses 104, or at 6 in Amherst - and in that context, the signs are right. So it really depends on what one uses as their reference - the signed terminus, or where most maps show it.
Oh, and I know "coincidentally" was a poor choice of word, no need to call me out on it :-/
Ah, missed that first reassurance.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 12, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
(https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0)I like the one on US 71 NB (State Line Avenue) in Texarkana where there is a TX Loop 14 shield for TX Loop 14, that is in Arkansas style of shield and not traditional TX style. It is on Arkansas side of the street, which is expected that AR places their own signs on their own side, but it is interesting to see them use their own style and yet respect the other state at the same time.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0
That is so weird that you posted that about that sign in Texarkana. I was just thinking about that Loop 14 sign on the Arkansas side of the road and how it looks a tad bit off from the Texas version. I have a picture of it somewhere.
Usually TxDOT would furnish the sign for AHTD to mount, I'd think. It's been a while since I drove State Line north out of town, but I remember the signage being a mishmash of Texas and Arkansas to the Red River bridge.
Quote from: Road Hog on August 13, 2013, 11:04:24 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 12, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
(https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0)I like the one on US 71 NB (State Line Avenue) in Texarkana where there is a TX Loop 14 shield for TX Loop 14, that is in Arkansas style of shield and not traditional TX style. It is on Arkansas side of the street, which is expected that AR places their own signs on their own side, but it is interesting to see them use their own style and yet respect the other state at the same time.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Texarkana,+AR&hl=en&ll=33.460106,-94.043097&spn=0.006606,0.015278&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.761936,62.578125&oq=texar&hnear=Texarkana,+Miller,+Arkansas&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.459875,-94.043102&panoid=fU_BoVFRG8_FMkl690l_rg&cbp=12,14.09,,1,0
That is so weird that you posted that about that sign in Texarkana. I was just thinking about that Loop 14 sign on the Arkansas side of the road and how it looks a tad bit off from the Texas version. I have a picture of it somewhere.
Usually TxDOT would furnish the sign for AHTD to mount, I'd think. It's been a while since I drove State Line north out of town, but I remember the signage being a mishmash of Texas and Arkansas to the Red River bridge.
I was in Texarkana in March and still from I-30 to downtown, State Line Dr. Is signed by Arkansas on the east side and Texas on the west side.
SB on US 69-US 75 before the Red River, across from the OK Welcome Center, is this sign
http://goo.gl/maps/IlwyM
done in TX style with an 'Exit 75' (the first SB exit in TX and the only one during the TX portion of US 69 and US 75's overlap) tab, for the TX Tourist Info Center. It's done in BGS, not BBlS as is the common usage for tourist bureau guide signs in TX.
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"
Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"
If they do that as a general rule, then this doesn't apply, but it seems to me that in that specific case, it might just be to prevent confusion with Jefferson City, Tennessee. That is, if there weren't a city with the same name in the same part of Tennessee, they wouldn't have bothered with the NC.
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 13, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"
If they do that as a general rule, then this doesn't apply, but it seems to me that in that specific case, it might just be to prevent confusion with Jefferson City, Tennessee. That is, if there weren't a city with the same name in the same part of Tennessee, they wouldn't have bothered with the NC.
That would make sense. However, I may be misremembering, but I believe I've seen the same thing with a sign for Asheville, NC.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3079%2F2825615974_8fdd65b8e6_z_d.jpg&hash=fbe4656c7c2b189a30af336dfb2f1fd2e568c88b)
Along I-44 in Oklahoma
^^ Interesting setup with "WEST" on the left of the shield. Usually that means a left exit, but the exit tab is on the right.
Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"
Here's an example: http://goo.gl/maps/HiR5D
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 13, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"
If they do that as a general rule, then this doesn't apply, but it seems to me that in that specific case, it might just be to prevent confusion with Jefferson City, Tennessee. That is, if there weren't a city with the same name in the same part of Tennessee, they wouldn't have bothered with the NC.
This is done in Memphis with Jackson, MS. The guide signs say "Jackson Miss" to avoid confusion with Jackson, TN about 80 miles to the northeast.
There is also this example (http://goo.gl/maps/pzAO4), but Huntsville, TN and Princeton, TN are small towns a bit far away from this location (Huntland, TN).
Along I-81 Northbound near the MD-PA border.
1-mile advance for PA's Exit 1 (PA 163) - Note: BGS has since been replaced with non-black bordered PA 163 shield & Clearview font for everything else (Maryland spec'd):
http://goo.gl/maps/u7dQJ (http://goo.gl/maps/u7dQJ)
Further north at 1/4 mile advance, this BGS is still present:
http://goo.gl/maps/BwG8B (http://goo.gl/maps/BwG8B)
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=35.29166,-94.440193&spn=0.026446,0.038581&t=m&dg=opt&z=15&layer=c&cbll=35.291622,-94.440075&panoid=3IGuYpCeXogjxWBu2KI_yw&cbp=12,109.92,,0,2
Pocola, OK
Hard to tell from the cruddy imagery, but that may well be an old Oklahoma DOT button copy sign.
Here are a couple near La Crosse, WI:
http://goo.gl/maps/cl6dT, http://goo.gl/maps/v45WD, http://goo.gl/maps/RJVnP, http://goo.gl/maps/zZq3u, the exit is in MN.
One on the Minnesota side of the St. Croix across from Hudson, WI, http://goo.gl/maps/GUqFU, and a small one on the right side of the river: http://goo.gl/maps/Uvha4.
Quote from: US71 on August 22, 2013, 11:53:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=35.29166,-94.440193&spn=0.026446,0.038581&t=m&dg=opt&z=15&layer=c&cbll=35.291622,-94.440075&panoid=3IGuYpCeXogjxWBu2KI_yw&cbp=12,109.92,,0,2
Pocola, OK
if you pan the map east, you get what appears to be a very sharp jog in the state line right underneath the 271 freeway. is that really like that?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 23, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 22, 2013, 11:53:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=35.29166,-94.440193&spn=0.026446,0.038581&t=m&dg=opt&z=15&layer=c&cbll=35.291622,-94.440075&panoid=3IGuYpCeXogjxWBu2KI_yw&cbp=12,109.92,,0,2
Pocola, OK
if you pan the map east, you get what appears to be a very sharp jog in the state line right underneath the 271 freeway. is that really like that?
Not to my knowledge. I'm not sure what that is...maybe shifting the line around the casino? You can see the actual state line in the pavement change.
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)
Quote from: US71 on August 23, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)
I love observing the pavement changes across state lines. At every NC/TN border crossing I've been through, as well as TN/VA crossings, the pavement on the Tennessee side is always a lot older.
Noticed the state line between Arkansas and Oklahoma makes some funny slight jogs to the left and right. I always thought it was a straight longitudinal line between the Arkansas and Red Rivers.
Quote from: Road Hog on August 25, 2013, 07:26:55 PM
Noticed the state line between Arkansas and Oklahoma makes some funny slight jogs to the left and right. I always thought it was a straight longitudinal line between the Arkansas and Red Rivers.
Neither. It's a straight diagonal (or as straight as they could survey in those days).
Quote from: DSS5 on August 24, 2013, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 23, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)
I love observing the pavement changes across state lines. At every NC/TN border crossing I've been through, as well as TN/VA crossings, the pavement on the Tennessee side is always a lot older.
Me too. Investigating state lines is a hobby of mine.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 25, 2013, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on August 24, 2013, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 23, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)
I love observing the pavement changes across state lines. At every NC/TN border crossing I've been through, as well as TN/VA crossings, the pavement on the Tennessee side is always a lot older.
Me too. Investigating state lines is a hobby of mine.
I found an exception to my previous stated rule today on NC 88/TN 67 . But there are "Loose Gravel" and "Unmarked Pavement" signs up that make it seem like they're getting ready to resurface the NC side.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2Finterestingsigns%2Fva%2FTo_KY_38.jpg&hash=a1bdd88c44dc6c2e789bc7306897d37e7d8cc924)
Found these two in France, obviously erected by Germany:
https://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=49.202682,6.953487&spn=0.046042,0.077162&sll=49.452237,8.461618&sspn=11.67518,19.753418&geocode=FRvU6wId1OAmACEsplsvmOArBClbz0yOAz7mRzEsplsvmOArBA%3BFbKB7QIdiUBeACmptnRgG9yURzFpprs1tuRrWQ%3BFZIX_AIdqU3cACmLeXAJnJMLRzGQQBZmD68ABA&oq=Metz&mra=ls&safe=strict&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=49.202701,6.953675&panoid=et0gR4JhzaHx_1qdLh55_Q&cbp=12,92.4,,0,2.95
https://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=49.203018,6.955891&spn=0.046042,0.077162&sll=49.452237,8.461618&sspn=11.67518,19.753418&geocode=FRvU6wId1OAmACEsplsvmOArBClbz0yOAz7mRzEsplsvmOArBA%3BFbKB7QIdiUBeACmptnRgG9yURzFpprs1tuRrWQ%3BFZIX_AIdqU3cACmLeXAJnJMLRzGQQBZmD68ABA&oq=Metz&mra=ls&safe=strict&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=49.203068,6.956078&panoid=RcnC9u5aK0aZZdD5pVAb1Q&cbp=12,99.66,,0,1.9
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on September 19, 2013, 05:03:21 PM
Found these two in France, obviously erected by Germany:
https://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=49.202682,6.953487&spn=0.046042,0.077162&sll=49.452237,8.461618&sspn=11.67518,19.753418&geocode=FRvU6wId1OAmACEsplsvmOArBClbz0yOAz7mRzEsplsvmOArBA%3BFbKB7QIdiUBeACmptnRgG9yURzFpprs1tuRrWQ%3BFZIX_AIdqU3cACmLeXAJnJMLRzGQQBZmD68ABA&oq=Metz&mra=ls&safe=strict&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=49.202701,6.953675&panoid=et0gR4JhzaHx_1qdLh55_Q&cbp=12,92.4,,0,2.95
https://maps.google.ca/maps?ll=49.203018,6.955891&spn=0.046042,0.077162&sll=49.452237,8.461618&sspn=11.67518,19.753418&geocode=FRvU6wId1OAmACEsplsvmOArBClbz0yOAz7mRzEsplsvmOArBA%3BFbKB7QIdiUBeACmptnRgG9yURzFpprs1tuRrWQ%3BFZIX_AIdqU3cACmLeXAJnJMLRzGQQBZmD68ABA&oq=Metz&mra=ls&safe=strict&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=49.203068,6.956078&panoid=RcnC9u5aK0aZZdD5pVAb1Q&cbp=12,99.66,,0,1.9
There goes Germany, annexing France again. Silly Germany.
Interestingly enough, you can't continue into Germany on Street View. In fact, there appears to be no Street View in Germany at all. Does it violate German privacy law?
There's some in the bigger cities, about what it was like in the US when they started.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383363,00.asp
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers.
Quote from: aerules on September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 AM
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers.
Only the one exit on the bridge, which is under DRPA jurisdiction...
Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Quote from: aerules on September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 AM
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers.
Only the one exit on the bridge, which is under DRPA jurisdiction...
It still doesn't make sense though. It's clearly an exit in NJ. Exit numbers are based on the state the exit is located in, not the jurisdiction of the bi-state authority (which, to point out, is based in Camden, NJ).
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2013, 08:51:50 AM
Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Quote from: aerules on September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 AM
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers.
Only the one exit on the bridge, which is under DRPA jurisdiction...
It still doesn't make sense though. It's clearly an exit in NJ. Exit numbers are based on the state the exit is located in, not the jurisdiction of the bi-state authority (which, to point out, is based in Camden, NJ).
What's even worse is that this mistake was repeated. It was first signed as Exit 48 sometime in the mid-to-late 90s then it changed to Exit 354 when PA changed to mile-marker-based exit numbering a few years later. It
should be signed as Exit
2.
Re: Street View in Germany
There used to be none at all for a long time; they've just started adding the country. I suppose we'll get country-wide coverage by next year.
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on September 20, 2013, 09:18:24 AMRe: Street View in Germany
There used to be none at all for a long time; they've just started adding the country. I suppose we'll get country-wide coverage by next year.
Are you sure about that? The
PC Magazine article NE2 linked to says that Google was (as of April 2011) abandoning plans to add further StreetView imagery for Germany. I checked the Wikipedia article on StreetView and it contains no mention of that decision being revisited, as happened in the otherwise similar case of Australia.
On MD 135, signage for WV 46.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5331%2F9629367061_301c3be334.jpg&hash=9c710874972ae3d5c4a94a1993fcd2da38011fb3)
On WV 62 at Mason. (This is at the bridge that replaced the old US 33 bridge).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7321%2F9632533494_02f35826cd.jpg&hash=3ab804cf7be009698ff0da192447c512754a3fb3)
On OH 7 at Proctorville. (I have photos across the river in Huntington with OH 7 signage on US 60).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6145%2F5939766097_9483f7a70b.jpg&hash=b20248cb55c060056d6588309129ad61079d3313)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6018%2F5940321310_80534b6b08.jpg&hash=9b9039dd913b40e3379a5341da1eecf65ad8774a)
Spied this weekend, JCT VT 102 signed on the NH side of US 2.
As I recall (and hope wasn't mentioned upthread and I missed it), INDOT has a sign for the first exit northbound on US 41 placed in Kentucky (in the small area of Kentucky on the north side of the river). It's one of the few button copy signs in Kentucky, a nice full overhead to boot. Interestingly, when I was down there a couple weeks ago, it seemed that the first sign in Indiana for the same exit was not button copy anymore!
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 20, 2013, 02:08:14 AM
Interestingly enough, you can't continue into Germany on Street View. In fact, there appears to be no Street View in Germany at all. Does it violate German privacy law?
Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 02:24:06 AM
There's some in the bigger cities, about what it was like in the US when they started.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383363,00.asp
They started. There was a lawsuit. They stopped collecting data. The End.
Quote from: english si on September 26, 2013, 08:17:32 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 20, 2013, 02:08:14 AM
Interestingly enough, you can't continue into Germany on Street View. In fact, there appears to be no Street View in Germany at all. Does it violate German privacy law?
Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 02:24:06 AM
There's some in the bigger cities, about what it was like in the US when they started.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383363,00.asp
They started. There was a lawsuit. They stopped collecting data. The End.
Why would there be a lawsuit? It's photography on a public road, or am I missing some quirk in German law that is missing in French and UK law (which are extensively photographed by Google)?
Quote from: PurdueBill on September 25, 2013, 09:59:50 PM
As I recall (and hope wasn't mentioned upthread and I missed it), INDOT has a sign for the first exit northbound on US 41 placed in Kentucky (in the small area of Kentucky on the north side of the river). It's one of the few button copy signs in Kentucky, a nice full overhead to boot. Interestingly, when I was down there a couple weeks ago, it seemed that the first sign in Indiana for the same exit was not button copy anymore!
AFAIK it is the ONLY button copy left in Kentucky.
Quote from: hbelkins on September 26, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
AFAIK it is the ONLY button copy left in Kentucky.
I feel like there is something similar surviving for a WV route.
Not that I've seen, and I've crossed every crossing multiple times except the bridge from Pike County, Ky., to Vulcan, WV. There used to be some button copy just across the border at the US 119/US 52 intersection, but that was fully on the east side of the river and has been replaced with Clearview. None survives at either of the other two crossings between Williamson, WV and South Williamson, KY.
Quote from: hbelkins on September 26, 2013, 03:31:41 PM
Not that I've seen, and I've crossed every crossing multiple times except the bridge from Pike County, Ky., to Vulcan, WV. There used to be some button copy just across the border at the US 119/US 52 intersection, but that was fully on the east side of the river and has been replaced with Clearview. None survives at either of the other two crossings between Williamson, WV and South Williamson, KY.
I was misremembering. it was Virginia, on I-77 north, that had WV-installed button copy.
I don't think VA ever used button copy... in any case, as of 2010, it is the only button copy I know of in that state.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 26, 2013, 04:30:50 PM
I was misremembering. it was Virginia, on I-77 north, that had WV-installed button copy.
And I'm not sure, but I think it's gone too. Although last time I crossed the state line going north, it was on VA/WV 598 and not I-77.
Didn't see this one previously mentioned.
On I-93 SB in Salem, NH, a 1 mile overhead BGS for MA 213 was recently installed. The sign and support are MassDOT spec and were installed by MassDOT's contractor as part of the I-93 Wilmington to Methuen sign replacements.
Sign referencing NJ 90 on I-95 in Philadelphia:
http://goo.gl/maps/GhoFi
They were even nice enough to include the back background behind the shield!
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Keene,+NH&hl=en&ll=43.649414,-72.310338&spn=0.005978,0.015278&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=7.407541,15.644531&oq=keene+nh&t=h&hnear=Keene,+Cheshire,+New+Hampshire&layer=c&cbll=43.64922,-72.310373&panoid=4owts45eOpTyGL9C8RG2UQ&cbp=12,45,,1,0&z=16
VT 14 makes a mention in Lebanon, NH.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 02, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Keene,+NH&hl=en&ll=43.649414,-72.310338&spn=0.005978,0.015278&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=7.407541,15.644531&oq=keene+nh&t=h&hnear=Keene,+Cheshire,+New+Hampshire&layer=c&cbll=43.64922,-72.310373&panoid=4owts45eOpTyGL9C8RG2UQ&cbp=12,45,,1,0&z=16
VT 14 makes a mention in Lebanon, NH.
We actually stopped right by there at the Lebanon road meet a few weeks ago.
http://goo.gl/maps/ILISI
This sign is incorrect, since it should be a NH 121A sign, not a MA 121A sign.
Go north 2 steps and you will see a NH 121A reassurance shield despite still being in Massachusetts.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Marshalls+Creek,+PA&hl=en&ll=40.961655,-75.117152&spn=0.000016,0.009871&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=10.745619,20.214844&oq=marshalls+cr&hnear=Marshalls+Creek,+Monroe,+Pennsylvania&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.961738,-75.117158&panoid=fmHip6As72hTEjL2B3pT6A&cbp=12,33.59,,0,0
A PA Exit 310 for I-80 in New Jersey.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TXZTKCuEOw8/UkJiQRjuLiI/AAAAAAAAA4k/wK9uPwPtpx0/w740-h553-no/111.JPG)
This isn't a BGS but still interesting just the same. This shield assembly is on State Line Road in Texarkana facing southbound north of the Interstate 30 diamond interchange. The shield on the right points to westbound Interstate 30 and is made to TxDOT standards since Texas is on the right of the picture. The shield on the left says if you go over the bridge and turn left you are on eastbound Interstate 30, and that shield is made to AHDT standards as well since Arkansas is on the left.
There is the infamous AR 43 & OK 20 two state route duplex on the AR- OK State Line.
ON AZ 95 Bullhead City, AZ BGS at Bullhead Parkway and BGS at midbridge on Laughlin-Bullhead City Bridge NV 163
Needles, CA ADOT BGS for AZ 95 ON Business I-40/Historic US 66
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 06, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TXZTKCuEOw8/UkJiQRjuLiI/AAAAAAAAA4k/wK9uPwPtpx0/w740-h553-no/111.JPG)
This isn't a BGS but still interesting just the same. This shield assembly is on State Line Road in Texarkana facing southbound north of the Interstate 30 diamond interchange. The shield on the right points to westbound Interstate 30 and is made to TxDOT standards since Texas is on the right of the picture. The shield on the left says if you go over the bridge and turn left you are on eastbound Interstate 30, and that shield is made to AHDT standards as well since Arkansas is on the left.
You see examples of this all up and down US 71 as it straddles the state line more or less.
IDOT for Missouri.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3831_zps9cda194b.jpg&hash=e27a31a917f7e88c2c6cdfe8d8bb11e050185aa6) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3831_zps9cda194b.jpg.html)
MoDOT for Missouri, in Illinois.
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The only one arrow per lane signs in Illinois were not installed by IDOT or ISTHA.
Plus, MoDOT has a VMS in Illinois.
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Quote from: Brandon on March 16, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
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One lane for the mainline (through) interstate designation, because that makes total sense.
It's a two-lane ramp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/missriverbridge/12777474404/sizes/o/
Either the second lane begins along the bridge or they cocked up the sign. Given that the right lane appears to enter from IL 3, I'm going with cockup.
Quote from: NE2 on March 17, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
It's a two-lane ramp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/missriverbridge/12777474404/sizes/o/
Either the second lane begins along the bridge or they cocked up the sign. Given that the right lane appears to enter from IL 3, I'm going with cockup.
Without having driven it myself (it's on my to-do list), and without the help of Google (I'm sure it's on Google's to-do list), I'm pretty sure the signs are correct, and that the second lane for I-70 actually starts just after the bridge.
This video is the only evidence I have (skip to about 3:30 if you want to save time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNYNHW-QH8
Quote from: stridentweasel on March 17, 2014, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 17, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
It's a two-lane ramp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/missriverbridge/12777474404/sizes/o/
Either the second lane begins along the bridge or they cocked up the sign. Given that the right lane appears to enter from IL 3, I'm going with cockup.
Without having driven it myself (it's on my to-do list), and without the help of Google (I'm sure it's on Google's to-do list), I'm pretty sure the signs are correct, and that the second lane for I-70 actually starts just after the bridge.
This video is the only evidence I have (skip to about 3:30 if you want to save time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNYNHW-QH8
He's right, thinking about it now, after having gone across that bridge both ways on Saturday. The lane starts just after the bridge. Funny though, that through traffic for I-70 must squeeze into the right lane and then get another lane just at that interchange.
Reviving an old thread because the sign fits this thread perfectly. The Harry Nice Bridge is mentioned on the first page of the thread. We drove over it today and this sign in Virginia struck me because I can't think of any other instance where I've seen a sign in one state bearing the name of the governor of a different state. (The image is old; the current sign obviously bears Larry Hogan's name, and I think it was in Clearview.)
https://goo.gl/maps/q2jtadw5swQ2
This begs the question: who maintains the signs for state x across the state line in state y? After re-reading all 6 pages, it seems as though the answer is "it depends".
One obvious exception that was recently put up was a sign stating that the TX welcome center on I-20 is sponsored by Geico. It is mounted on the TX "goalposts" on the Louisiana side. That is definitely TxDOT's handywork.
Is this along the lines of the sign for the Indiana Toll Road in 20 Miles, along the south end of the Tri-State in Illinois?
And I do not have photo evidence of this, but I'm all but sure that the exit for I-80/94 West from I-65 North in IN used to have an Illinois Tollway Shield, but it is gone, after that interchange was redesigned and rebuilt years ago now
Here's New Mexico's attempt to sign a Farm-to-Market route on I-10:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5537/29370628693_919fb393d3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LKo9DT)
The "Mexico 45" signs in El Paso - there's at least three of them:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4492/37612979771_0ee81e792b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZiJmte)
Here's an Autoroute 15 shield in Rouses Point, New York:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8270/29364744670_f6f4a69d6f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LJRZxd)
I-70 eastbound in St. Louis, on the approach to the Stan Musial Bridge (one of the very few Clearview signs in Missouri)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/862/43705062762_d32df9fcce_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29A4SuS)mo70-1 (https://flic.kr/p/29A4SuS) by Modern Day Warrior (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163585216@N06/), on Flickr
I-72 eastbound in Hannibal, on the approach to the Mark Twain Bridge
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1818/43753634021_74a8d51e54_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29EmP3n)mo72-1 (https://flic.kr/p/29EmP3n) by Modern Day Warrior (https://www.flickr.com/photos/163585216@N06/), on Flickr
This sign for I-85's exit 1 in South Carolina is located in Georgia, and isn't quite built to spec of either state. The destination text looks almost, but not quite, like Georgia's pre-2008 standard Series D (maybe E compressed to D width?). The exit tab looks like perhaps a Georgia-style approximation of SC's external tab; a true SC tab would have no bottom border and would be offset slightly to the left.
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Quote from: Eth on July 31, 2018, 08:18:43 AM
This sign for I-85's exit 1 in South Carolina is located in Georgia, and isn't quite built to spec of either state. The destination text looks almost, but not quite, like Georgia's pre-2008 standard Series D (maybe E compressed to D width?). The exit tab looks like perhaps a Georgia-style approximation of SC's external tab; a true SC tab would have no bottom border and would be offset slightly to the left.
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Yeah, South Carolina's exit tabs have that indent near "right justification". They seem to center it on a handful of small overhead signs.
On the other side of I-85, it looks like South Carolina supplied the sign for their exit:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/30955725590_b50b59c1d7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PasbJJ)
I-80 in Wendover UT, for Exit 410 in West Wendover NV. (photo credit aaroads)
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/ut-080/i-080_wb_exit_001_03.jpg)
This is notable for two reasons. First, neither US 93 nor Alt 93 even enter Utah, and this is the only US 93 sign anywhere in Utah (unless there’s one I didn’t see on the Wendover BL). The other thing is that this is the highest signed exit number in Utah.
Kentucky did a sign replacement project on I-64 back in the late 90s/early 00s, that included the signage for the US 52 exit in West Virginia.
Then West Virginia came along and replaced that sign about eight years ago as part of its own sign replacement efforts. It should be noted that while much of the signage replaced in WV was button copy, the sign in Kentucky that's been replaced twice was not.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3525/3770446703_b83372b380_z_d.jpg)
I-44 in Oklahoma just before the OK/TX State Line
Quote from: hbelkins on July 31, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
Kentucky did a sign replacement project on I-64 back in the late 90s/early 00s, that included the signage for the US 52 exit in West Virginia.
Then West Virginia came along and replaced that sign about eight years ago as part of its own sign replacement efforts. It should be noted that while much of the signage replaced in WV was button copy, the sign in Kentucky that's been replaced twice was not.
The typical practice, not on the interstates, in WV is to just trade signs. You have some pictures upthread of Ohio signs in WV. The Ohio signs, if you look closely, have the "bug" indicating when and where ODOT made the sign. Since it all comes out to a wash (WV is going to give Ohio about the same number of WV 2 signs as it takes OH 7 signs) it is just an informal courtesy thing.
I note that there is signage on US 52 in Ohio near the 17th St W Bridge, directing to I-64, which I-64 never enters Ohio. Signage directing a motorist to a 2di in a state where that road never enters and where the road is not terminating at/near the state line has to be pretty rare.
Quote from: SP Cook on July 31, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
Signage directing a motorist to a 2di in a state where that road never enters and where the road is not terminating at/near the state line has to be pretty rare.
There are probably a whole bunch of signs in New Hampshire for I-91.
Quote from: cjk374 on July 30, 2018, 06:28:21 PM
This begs the question: who maintains the signs for state x across the state line in state y? After re-reading all 6 pages, it seems as though the answer is "it depends".
It looks like in some cases some states even make signs to give to other states to install. The example cited for La Crosse, WI on I-90 a couple pages back has an advance guide sign for the US 14/61 exit in MN, which looks like a WisDOT job. But there was also a "TO MN 16/La Crescent" sign still on the WI side that was clearly made by MnDOY.
Quote from: SP Cook on July 31, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 31, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
Kentucky did a sign replacement project on I-64 back in the late 90s/early 00s, that included the signage for the US 52 exit in West Virginia.
Then West Virginia came along and replaced that sign about eight years ago as part of its own sign replacement efforts. It should be noted that while much of the signage replaced in WV was button copy, the sign in Kentucky that's been replaced twice was not.
The typical practice, not on the interstates, in WV is to just trade signs. You have some pictures upthread of Ohio signs in WV. The Ohio signs, if you look closely, have the "bug" indicating when and where ODOT made the sign. Since it all comes out to a wash (WV is going to give Ohio about the same number of WV 2 signs as it takes OH 7 signs) it is just an informal courtesy thing.
I note that there is signage on US 52 in Ohio near the 17th St W Bridge, directing to I-64, which I-64 never enters Ohio. Signage directing a motorist to a 2di in a state where that road never enters and where the road is not terminating at/near the state line has to be pretty rare.
Kentucky's treatment of US 52 is unusual. There are some locations where, in the past, it's been obvious that Kentucky used WV-manufactured US 52 signs. And in other cases, the signs were obviously of Kentucky origin.
Once upon a time, there were even Ohio-made US 23 signs just south of the bridges at Portsmouth. I have some pictures that, when blown up, have the "ODOT" markings in plain view. If I'm not mistaken, there was one assembly that had both an Ohio-issue US 23 marker and a Kentucky-made US 52 sign.
On AB-4 in Lethbridge, AB, a sign for I-15.
(https://i.imgur.com/51FDt2O.png)
GSV Link (https://www.google.com/maps/@49.6715829,-112.7794991,3a,49.7y,177.14h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKFeEdzVEurYJ1E5abX0Muw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Interesting because it is 100 km from the border. I think that's the farthest away I-15 marker I saw, though I'm pretty sure there were also more as you got closer to the border.
On I-435 in MO there's some K-5 shields on signs that are very clearly MoDOT-made.
Going the other way, on a next-three-exits median panel, KDOT includes a shield for K-5 but for the first lettered route in MO spells it out as "Route N", as is MoDOT style.
Here's Washington's take on BC highway shields. Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/YwuoT5LjZhB2).
Surprised this sign on I-24 eastbound in eastern Tennessee near the duck into Georgia hasn't been mentioned, especially since it features a (Georgia) state named I-59 shield!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.991388,-85.4779465,3a,16y,116.84h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWpAvB6HZ8o9DCgJ_0ihxJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 01, 2018, 05:14:04 AM
Surprised this sign on I-24 eastbound in eastern Tennessee near the duck into Georgia hasn't been mentioned, especially since it features a (Georgia) state named I-59 shield!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.991388,-85.4779465,3a,16y,116.84h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWpAvB6HZ8o9DCgJ_0ihxJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I figured only Georgia could supply that, given Tennessee's typical disdain for state-named shields.
Quote from: formulanone on August 01, 2018, 07:43:47 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 01, 2018, 05:14:04 AM
Surprised this sign on I-24 eastbound in eastern Tennessee near the duck into Georgia hasn't been mentioned, especially since it features a (Georgia) state named I-59 shield!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.991388,-85.4779465,3a,16y,116.84h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWpAvB6HZ8o9DCgJ_0ihxJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I figured only Georgia could supply that, given Tennessee's typical disdain for state-named shields.
Plus the rest of the sign is in Series D, so that's definitely a Georgia sign. The thicker numerals in the shield were more of a thing earlier in that experiment, so I'd say this sign most likely dates back to the 1990s.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 18, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
The newer small green signs on the Delaware Memorial Bridge NB are for the 295/NJ Turnpike Split in NJ. Over 3/4 of that bridge is in Delaware, including where most of those signs are mounted. (Delaware's state jurisdiction includes ALL of the Delaware river in that area).
There used to be small signs showing where the state line was, but they've been missing for many, many years.
They did just recently install new mile markers resetting to 0 at the state line (rather than increasing through the entirety of the DRBA jurisdiction)
But back on topic, this
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3544801,-74.6846766,3a,75y,92.18h,86.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swDBy9Rf_qB1Qxuja7lV3nQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
and this
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3550358,-74.6736377,3a,75y,219.13h,104.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szCaOHn55sHaHtpqQ2M435Q!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
is how NY used to sign NJ 23. I'm pretty sure this was since fixed.
In any case, PA signage for the same exit doesn't make the same mistakes:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3588438,-74.6983781,3a,75y,104.9h,95.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5ys3C93T-uJq4v2yXudeag!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
But NJ reciprocates with this sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1014671,-74.169123,3a,75y,8.47h,106.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_uwcKdNVQtxK3Hr93oBK8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
By the time 17 North exits I-287, it's actually NY 17, not NJ 17.
Quote from: 1 on October 04, 2013, 08:34:14 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/ILISI
This sign is incorrect, since it should be a NH 121A sign, not a MA 121A sign.
Go north 2 steps and you will see a NH 121A reassurance shield despite still being in Massachusetts.
Location of one of the nuttiest business owners in New England, http://www.eagletribune.com/news/local_news/officials-upset-over-plaistow-business-sign/article_00e647ab-019d-57c1-81af-ce4d0d47e81c.html
New Jersey's take on a Pennsylvania shield on I-80:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/938/30040928168_f54d5689f7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MLBBko)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195231131_6668a04e3c_4k.jpg
Georgia Welcome Center sign in SC on I-20.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51195231131_6668a04e3c_4k.jpg)
The Indiana Toll Road has a passable attempt at a M-217 shield at the Elkhart East interchange (exit 96).
(Previously posted as a Daily Picture Challenge entry.)
(https://i.imgur.com/lGPlZxu.jpg)
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 22, 2021, 12:53:52 PM
The Indiana Toll Road has a passable attempt at a M-217 shield at the Elkhart East interchange (exit 96).
(Previously posted as a Daily Picture Challenge entry.)
(https://i.imgur.com/lGPlZxu.jpg)
Looks like they took from North Carolina. Is there an NC 217 somewhere within that state?
There is.
Indiana got the diamond shape right, but Michigan stretches its diamond shield for 3 digit routes (NC does not).
Quote from: ran4sh on June 24, 2021, 01:36:46 PM
There is.
Indiana got the diamond shape right, but Michigan stretches its diamond shield for 3 digit routes (NC does not).
I guess I hadn't thought about that; all I noticed was the missing "M".
Quote from: KCRoadFan on June 25, 2021, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: ran4sh on June 24, 2021, 01:36:46 PM
There is.
Indiana got the diamond shape right, but Michigan stretches its diamond shield for 3 digit routes (NC does not).
I guess I hadn't thought about that; all I noticed was the missing "M".
BGS in Michigan don't usually have the "M."
I took this in 2007.
(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/backup/oos/new-brunswick/DSC01899.jpg)
I was noticing that in NJ, on I-80 W Bound there are already signs for PA 611 (Exit 310) in NJ.
NY shield on Merritt Parkway/CT-15 in Greenwich, CT
(https://i.imgur.com/CYrXSDa.png)
IL/RI-style MA shield on NY-22 in Canaan, NY
(https://i.imgur.com/qbR5Epo.png)
These in Oregon for exits in Washington on I-5.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51370806433_c12ed00c4c_c.jpg)
Shouldn't the center sign here have "Exit 15A" above it? It is on northbound I-287 in New Jersey approaching the state line.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.101621,-74.169085,3a,75y,10.58h,106.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snJyU0lvvZOIc_HX1YjIx7g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DnJyU0lvvZOIc_HX1YjIx7g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D135.57771%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3079/2825615974_8fdd65b8e6_z_d.jpg)
Along I-44 in Oklahoma neat the Texas State Line
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3156/2459747236_0fe5c1a43d_z_d.jpg)
Caverna, MO
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3133/3203182324_ca08b8a359_z_d.jpg)
West Senaca, OK
Illinois, from Missouri (https://goo.gl/maps/HS25VFTEurm7PpFz7) / Missouri, from Illinois (https://goo.gl/maps/iucTwxbgRcTpHHfbA)
These signs are in Georgia. Both exits are in Tennessee, but only exit 2's sign came from that state. The exit 1 sign and the gantry are GDOT spec.
(https://i.imgur.com/wgbP9wv.jpeg)
Almost certainly these are no longer standing, as the 75/24 junction was substantially reconfigured over the past year.
This one in Ottawa I find rather strange.
I would think Ontario would either sign it as "Aut 5 Via Nicholas Street", but they put Aut-5 with Gatineau, as if it is a control city.
The shield itself doesn't look bad actually, although Quebec would use a squished version of the shield when it's on a BGS I believe.
(https://i.imgur.com/nAZCu8p.png)
Quote from: KCRoadFan on June 23, 2021, 06:40:51 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 22, 2021, 12:53:52 PM
The Indiana Toll Road has a passable attempt at a M-217 shield at the Elkhart East interchange (exit 96).
(Previously posted as a Daily Picture Challenge entry.)
(https://i.imgur.com/lGPlZxu.jpg)
Looks like they took from North Carolina. Is there an NC 217 somewhere within that state?
Yes. It's in my home town.
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/7/6/proc/3714341_a674d564c56a5a683f34069abd7592d0.jpg)
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 18, 2021, 10:15:53 PM
The shield itself doesn't look bad actually, although Quebec would use a squished version of the shield when it's on a BGS I believe.
It actually varies by number of digits. The only 1-digit autoroute (A-5, as shown here) isn't supposed to get squished shields.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 22, 2021, 06:13:49 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on August 18, 2021, 10:15:53 PM
The shield itself doesn't look bad actually, although Quebec would use a squished version of the shield when it's on a BGS I believe.
It actually varies by number of digits. The only 1-digit autoroute (A-5, as shown here) isn't supposed to get squished shields.
Ah, that's interesting. Thanks for the info
I know the BGS (https://goo.gl/maps/tGLg57MybpnfcHFR9) on the right of the gantry is 100% Georgia, but the one on the right is Tennessee's. Both are in Georgia about exists in Tennessee.
That example was posted just 5 replies before...
Quote from: ran4sh on August 31, 2021, 03:46:06 PM
That example was posted just 5 replies before...
Wasn't good enough. Needed to be done again.
The sign for the Kanorado exit on I-70 eastbound, located in Colorado, is a Kansas installation. Dead giveaway is the use of extruded panel signage. Kansas uses extruded panel, while Colorado uses increment panel.