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Started by US 12 fan, June 23, 2017, 11:12:36 AM

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Does anybody have any new pictures of the new US 12 Baraboo Bypass yet? Say, for instance, the new bridges over the Baraboo River? Or how about new road signs on the bypass?


The Ghostbuster

I'd love to see some pictures. Stupid Google Maps doesn't even show imprints of the roadway's construction.

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If I make it to Minnesota this year, I will definitely drive through and get some pictures.
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I-39

So when this bypass is complete, the only obstacle to completing a four-lane divided highway from Madison to the Dells along US 12 will be completing some sort of Sauk City bypass. I wonder if there will be a bottleneck in that area......

Also, is the project to realign the highway near the Badger Ammunition Plant (the S curve) still on track for next year?

GeekJedi

Quote from: I-39 on June 25, 2017, 08:14:57 PM
So when this bypass is complete, the only obstacle to completing a four-lane divided highway from Madison to the Dells along US 12 will be completing some sort of Sauk City bypass. I wonder if there will be a bottleneck in that area......

Also, is the project to realign the highway near the Badger Ammunition Plant (the S curve) still on track for next year?

I suspect we'll see a proposal for a Sauk City bypass shortly after the moratorium lifts in 2020. It wouldn't surprise me to see the "S-Curve" alignment change happen in conjunction with that.
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dcharlie

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Quote from: US 12 fan on June 23, 2017, 11:12:36 AM
Does anybody have any new pictures of the new US 12 Baraboo Bypass yet? Say, for instance, the new bridges over the Baraboo River? Or how about new road signs on the bypass?

I have some construction pictures, not a lot and not great but it gives you a pretty good idea of progress on the southern part of the project.  They were taken on Mothers Day.  Nothing on the bridge though.  It does look like it is pretty much complete.

I don't know how to get photos on to the forum.  Can anyone help with that?


The Ghostbuster

I believe a 2020 date for a Sauk City bypass proposal is optimistic. I was aware of the 2020 moratorium (established as part of the agreement to four-lane US 12 between Middleton and Sauk City). I, of course, am not opposed to a bypass of Sauk City (In fact, I'd like the entire US 12 corridor from Wisconsin Dells to Madison to be a minimum of four lanes). I'll keep tabs on the WISDOT website to see if such a study ever gets underway.

GeekJedi

Seeing how long it takes from zero to construction, I think we'll start seeing the first steps not long after 2020. Even then you're probably looking at 10 years out before all the EIS and acquisition is done. It's not like they can start flipping shovels on 1/1/2020.
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I-39

I think they are going to have problems fitting a Sauk City bypass in. The area where they'd have to build it is along the Wisconsin River and very marshy. To the north, there is a tone of development. It will be interesting to see what they end of doing (if anything, though I think they do something because the area will become a bottleneck soon after the Baraboo Bypass is complete).

dvferyance

Quote from: I-39 on June 25, 2017, 08:14:57 PM
So when this bypass is complete, the only obstacle to completing a four-lane divided highway from Madison to the Dells along US 12 will be completing some sort of Sauk City bypass. I wonder if there will be a bottleneck in that area......

Also, is the project to realign the highway near the Badger Ammunition Plant (the S curve) still on track for next year?
Well not quite there is still a section north of Sauk City that is still only 2 lanes. I would like to see the whole route 4 laned first before we start talking about any bypass for Sauk City.

dcharlie

Hwy 12 is 2 Lane from Lueders Rd.  on the west edge of Sauk City to Co Hwy Z/Bus 12.  Technically, Z is North of Sauk City but it would be relatively easy to 4 lane that stretch.

The Ghostbuster

I don't think the DOT will widen the existing 2-lane sections of US 12 to 4-lanes anytime soon. Here is a link to a corridor study they completed in 2014, for the stretch of US 12 between Baraboo and Springfield Corners: http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/12skihi19/default.aspx

I-39

Quote from: dvferyance on June 27, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: I-39 on June 25, 2017, 08:14:57 PM
So when this bypass is complete, the only obstacle to completing a four-lane divided highway from Madison to the Dells along US 12 will be completing some sort of Sauk City bypass. I wonder if there will be a bottleneck in that area......

Also, is the project to realign the highway near the Badger Ammunition Plant (the S curve) still on track for next year?
Well not quite there is still a section north of Sauk City that is still only 2 lanes. I would like to see the whole route 4 laned first before we start talking about any bypass for Sauk City.

The part from County Z/Business 12 south will likely be done when the Sauk City bypass is built, so they are kind of synonymous. 

SEWIGuy

Quote from: I-39 on June 26, 2017, 07:16:43 PM
I think they are going to have problems fitting a Sauk City bypass in. The area where they'd have to build it is along the Wisconsin River and very marshy. To the north, there is a tone of development. It will be interesting to see what they end of doing (if anything, though I think they do something because the area will become a bottleneck soon after the Baraboo Bypass is complete).


I guess we will have to see.  I am not convinced you are going to see huge increases in traffic through that corridor. 

triplemultiplex

It would be best to identify now what r/w they will need for an eventual upgrade of the remaining two lane portion and the future Sauk City bypass.  Particularly east of the WI River where there's bound to be more property impacts.

I imagine the bridging over the river and its large floodplain will be quite lengthy.  Some of the land potentially impacted by a Sauk City bypass is part of the Lower Wisconsin River State Wildlife Area.  More bridging will reduce those impacts somewhat, but I assume there will still be contention over it.
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on_wisconsin

Quote from: dcharlie on June 26, 2017, 11:41:16 AM
Quote from: US 12 fan on June 23, 2017, 11:12:36 AM
Does anybody have any new pictures of the new US 12 Baraboo Bypass yet? Say, for instance, the new bridges over the Baraboo River? Or how about new road signs on the bypass?

I have some construction pictures, not a lot and not great but it gives you a pretty good idea of progress on the southern part of the project.  They were taken on Mothers Day.  Nothing on the bridge though.  It does look like it is pretty much complete.

I don't know how to get photos on to the forum.  Can anyone help with that?


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GeekJedi

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Here are some pics I took today at the WI-136 interchange. All of the new signage is up, some of it is bagged, and some of it is just planted behind the current signs. All of the guardrails, lighting and signage appears to be up on the mainline as well. Looks like it's 99% ready to go!






The trucks were part of a painting crew doing the striping on the ramp.
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triplemultiplex

Did you notice the little design on the overpasses?

(from spring 2016)
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The Ghostbuster

Reminds me of the newer bridges in the Milwaukee and Madison areas. By the way, does Business 12 still follow its pre-existing route, or has it been rerouted in the Baraboo area?

I-39

That's awfully nice for a non-primary highway.

GeekJedi

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 30, 2017, 03:58:34 PM
Reminds me of the newer bridges in the Milwaukee and Madison areas. By the way, does Business 12 still follow its pre-existing route, or has it been rerouted in the Baraboo area?

It appears that BR-12 follows it's pre-existing route, while WI-136 takes over the current US-12 portion in Baraboo, then follows the former route of WI-159 to Devils Lake state park.
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GeekJedi

Quote from: I-39 on June 30, 2017, 05:20:09 PM
That's awfully nice for a non-primary highway.

Combine a high traffic route with "community sensitive design" and that's what you get. The decorative design doesn't add a lot to the cost, but makes for a nice looking structure.

And if you spend time on US-12 during tourist season, you'll find that it's gets more traffic than many primary highways, as it links the Dells, Baraboo, Devils Lake, and the Casino together.
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midwesternroadguy

Quote from: triplemultiplex on June 28, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
It would be best to identify now what r/w they will need for an eventual upgrade of the remaining two lane portion and the future Sauk City bypass.  Particularly east of the WI River where there's bound to be more property impacts.

I imagine the bridging over the river and its large floodplain will be quite lengthy.  Some of the land potentially impacted by a Sauk City bypass is part of the Lower Wisconsin River State Wildlife Area.  More bridging will reduce those impacts somewhat, but I assume there will still be contention over it.

Check out the Sauk City Comprehensive Land Use Plan.  They already have a corridor mapped for the bypass. 



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