Is anyone excited (or not) about the upcoming streaming service? I'm for one excited about the newly-redesigned app, as the former CBS All Access (as we all have since known it as, because it is the first network TV streaming app-that is, not launched by a cable TV company) has gotten long in the tooth.
As long as they don't break streaming on Linux (which All Access did for a period in January 2020 and HBO Max did for a couple months as well).
Quote from: vdeane on March 01, 2021, 09:58:57 PM
As long as they don't break streaming on Linux (which All Access did for a period in January 2020 and HBO Max did for a couple months as well).
Yeesh. That's unfortunate. I'm a HBO Max user, by the way-I have had AT&T since we moved here. Comcast doesn't really serve my neck of the woods. When I did have them, I got us HBO because of John Oliver. He was funny on The Daily Show, if you can recall.
I also noticed that the former CBS All Access page on Wiki got edited to show it being rebranded as Paramount+. Looks like more of us are excited about it than I previously thought. But it's been edited back to show the Wiki page as saying that the app redesign is coming soon. Looks like someone jumped the gun.
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
It's all about scale these days. ViacomCBS will have to be purchased or merged into someone else at some point, they don't have the scale to compete. This is especially true if NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia end up be spun off from Comcast and AT&T and merged together.
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
It's all about scale these days. ViacomCBS will have to be purchased or merged into someone else at some point, they don't have the scale to compete. This is especially true if NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia end up be spun off from Comcast and AT&T and merged together.
Like that will ever happen.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
It's all about scale these days. ViacomCBS will have to be purchased or merged into someone else at some point, they don't have the scale to compete. This is especially true if NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia end up be spun off from Comcast and AT&T and merged together.
Like that will ever happen.
I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't rule it out. BTW, it's not just my speculation.
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Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
It's all about scale these days. ViacomCBS will have to be purchased or merged into someone else at some point, they don't have the scale to compete. This is especially true if NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia end up be spun off from Comcast and AT&T and merged together.
Like that will ever happen.
I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't rule it out. BTW, it's not just my speculation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2021/01/31/would-nbcuniversal-and-warnermedia-be-better-off-together/?sh=37c7d6f3edc2 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2021/01/31/would-nbcuniversal-and-warnermedia-be-better-off-together/?sh=37c7d6f3edc2)
I can't say for sure if Forbes really knows what's going to happen.
As a fan of most of the Star Trek series I
A) hope they don't pull streaming from Netflix
B) am pretty angry they have Discovery and Picard as exclusive series.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on March 01, 2021, 10:36:49 PM
As a fan of most of the Star Trek series I
A) hope they don't pull streaming from Netflix
B) am pretty angry they have Discovery and Picard as exclusive series.
I'm not even a fan of Netflix. They're the new evil empire as far as streaming goes. Amazon, I prefer, because I do think that the potential could very well be there.
I wish all of the streaming services would license their content to each other, so you could see the same stuff no matter which one you subscribed to. It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
I wish all of the streaming services would license their content to each other, so you could see the same stuff no matter which one you subscribed to. It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Hmm. You're right about that.
I think their move to start adding Paramount's vast movie library into their service will help add cache to it.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
I wish all of the streaming services would license their content to each other, so you could see the same stuff no matter which one you subscribed to. It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
What I'd like to see is for streaming services to package their live channels with their premium streaming services so we can just completely do away with third party providers. You get a package of CBS/Viacom channels with Paramount+, a package of NBC/Comcast channels with Peacock, a package of Disney/ABC channels with Disney+ and/or ESPN+, a package of Discovery channels with Discovery+, a package of Warner channels with HBO Max, and Fox would have to come up with a streaming service to package with their channels.
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds; Captain Pike, Spock, and Number One were such a hit in season 2 of Discovery that they got their own show. Here's some clips from the ending scenes of the season 2 finale, with the movie-era soundtrack overlayed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zevpuCP6Es
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
I wish all of the streaming services would license their content to each other, so you could see the same stuff no matter which one you subscribed to. It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Anyone else remember when Hulu was free, everything available on streaming was either there and/or on Netflix (which cost about half of what it does now), and things that weren't available on streaming could be obtained through the DVD plan built in to all Netflix subscriptions? It was great.
The way to look at the transformation of CBSAA to Paramount+ is that CBSAA was a flop. CBS said how about some old reruns, access to CBS shows you can get for free on a little thing called television (or which you can stream for free if you don't mind the ads), and some extra preachy Star Trek? And the world said, nah.
So now they are tossing out yet more content from the Paramount and Showtime vaults, for the same price.
Quote from: SP Cook on March 02, 2021, 01:40:52 PM
The way to look at the transformation of CBSAA to Paramount+ is that CBSAA was a flop. CBS said how about some old reruns, access to CBS shows you can get for free on a little thing called television (or which you can stream for free if you don't mind the ads), and some extra preachy Star Trek? And the world said, nah.
So now they are tossing out yet more content from the Paramount and Showtime vaults, for the same price.
I have had a CBSAA subscription just because it was really cheap and I needed it to watch Champions League or Europa League soccer. Outside of those games every couple of weeks, there was zero that made we want to look at it ever again.
Chris
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Funny. Before streaming really took off, people
wished they could pay per cable channel.
Quote from: kphoger on March 02, 2021, 02:06:27 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Funny. Before streaming really took off, people wished they could pay per cable channel.
I would pay a good amount of money just for live sports. I need nothing else live. If I could get the ESPNs, the Fox Sports, NFL Network, NBA Network, NBC Sports (while it exists), etc. all for $30 a month, they'd have my money very quickly.
Chris
Quote from: kphoger on March 02, 2021, 02:06:27 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Funny. Before streaming really took off, people wished they could pay per cable channel.
Well, yeah, people hated cable bundles. But each of these services is like a bundle unto itself. After all, if I subscribed to the existing CBS All Access cause I wanted to watch Price is Right and Star Trek, I'd apparently also be paying for Europa League Soccer. Which isn't that different than being forced to pay for QVC.
At least with cable bundles you don't have to maintain login details for each bundle, exit out of one bundle so you can watch a channel from a different bundle with a different interface, and so on.
We have a subscription to Hulu on my wife's insistence. I've always thought Hulu was stupid because you have to pay for it and it still has ads. If I wanted to stream videos off the Internet with ads, that's already a thing; it's called YouTube and it's free.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 02, 2021, 04:02:08 PM
We have a subscription to Hulu on my wife's insistence. I've always thought Hulu was stupid because you have to pay for it and it still has ads. If I wanted to stream videos off the Internet with ads, that's already a thing; it's called YouTube and it's free.
We have the Disney Plus/ESPN Plus/Hulu bundle for only $12.99/mo and I feel like that's a good deal. If you have adblocker software and watch Hulu on the computer as opposed to the TV, it cancels some of the commercials.
Chris
Long as they don't take all of the older Star Trek series from the 90s and early 2000s off of Netflix (which they eventually will more than likely), I likely won't use it
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 02, 2021, 04:02:08 PM
We have a subscription to Hulu on my wife's insistence. I've always thought Hulu was stupid because you have to pay for it and it still has ads.
So.... basically like cable TV, except you get to choose when to watch what. That's still an advantage over live TV.
(We have Hulu and watch
Family Matters on it pretty much every week. We also have Amazon and Netflix.)
Quote from: kphoger on March 02, 2021, 02:06:27 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
Funny. Before streaming really took off, people wished they could pay per cable channel.
Of course, when they wished that, they envisioned taking their $50/month cable bill and splitting it evenly across the 70 or so channels they got (which would be less than a dollar a channel), and then only paying for the 10 or so channels they actually watch. Not exactly what we got.
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 02, 2021, 04:02:08 PM
We have a subscription to Hulu on my wife's insistence. I've always thought Hulu was stupid because you have to pay for it and it still has ads. If I wanted to stream videos off the Internet with ads, that's already a thing; it's called YouTube and it's free.
I still hate Hulu for going that way. At one time, the main plan was free. Then they added Hulu Plus for the approximate price of the main plan. They they doubled the price of Hulu Plus and forced the free users to pay the former price for Hulu Plus for no change in service. They basically took a free service and then forced people to start paying what they used to charge to get rid of ads in exchange for nothing more than what they used to get for free. I don't understand why people went along with it instead of, say, boycotting the service and forcing them to go back to the way it was.
I can't wait to see Picard.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 02, 2021, 11:35:38 PM
I can't wait to see Picard.
The stories were good but I just couldn't get into the new characters because the writers were trying way too hard to emphasize them being the antithesis of the TNG crew. And the female villain was so boringly, stereotypically written that a 5-year old could have created her arc. I hated her because she was incredibly stupid and formulaic and not because she was evil. Not that the male one was much better.
I have a few predictions for the Frasier reboot: Because John Mahoney (who played Martin in the original series) passed away recently, there'll be an episode where the title character returns to Seattle from wherever he is now and visits his father's grave alongside his brother Niles and sister-in-law Daphne (the former caretaker for Martin). Also, I believe that he will still be a radio host (and Roz his producer once again who eventually becomes station manager), but based out of either San Francisco or Chicago as in the series finale, he had to choose one city or the other. We'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out, since it won't begin until 2022 at the earliest. Which would make sense, as that year will mark the 40th anniversary of the series it was spun off of, Cheers.
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
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Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
It's all about scale these days. ViacomCBS will have to be purchased or merged into someone else at some point, they don't have the scale to compete. This is especially true if NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia end up be spun off from Comcast and AT&T and merged together.
Spectrum's former company in NC was called Time warner Cable and when timewarner(now known as warner media) spun off the cable company, they eventually became spectrum. Spectrum mobile is now their focus point, so I'm not going to be surprised if Spectrum spins off the internet, television and home phone division, and eventually being like Sprint, spinning their phone and internet division off to Embarq, only to be bought out by CenturyLink (now known as LumenTech), whilst the parent company Sprint being bought out by T-Mobile.
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:31:28 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:23:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 01, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: I-39 on March 01, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Eh, I'm not sure. It's still going to be vastly inferior to Netflix and Disney and even HBO Max. What exciting new content are they producing that people are genuinely excited about.
I'll say it again, Netflix should buy ViacomCBS. They would be a powerhouse together.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not a fan of media mergers.
It's all about scale these days. ViacomCBS will have to be purchased or merged into someone else at some point, they don't have the scale to compete. This is especially true if NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia end up be spun off from Comcast and AT&T and merged together.
Like that will ever happen.
I don't think it's likely, but I wouldn't rule it out. BTW, it's not just my speculation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2021/01/31/would-nbcuniversal-and-warnermedia-be-better-off-together/?sh=37c7d6f3edc2 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2021/01/31/would-nbcuniversal-and-warnermedia-be-better-off-together/?sh=37c7d6f3edc2)
i fixed your url for you in the quote.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on March 01, 2021, 10:44:28 PM
I wish all of the streaming services would license their content to each other, so you could see the same stuff no matter which one you subscribed to. It's starting to become like cable, except you have to pay $9 a month for each channel.
What I'd like to see is for streaming services to package their live channels with their premium streaming services so we can just completely do away with third party providers. You get a package of CBS/Viacom channels with Paramount+, a package of NBC/Comcast channels with Peacock, a package of Disney/ABC channels with Disney+ and/or ESPN+, a package of Discovery channels with Discovery+, a package of Warner channels with HBO Max, and Fox would have to come up with a streaming service to package with their channels.
I hope they add Garfield and Friends to there, you only get to see 30 episodes on Boomerang, only to be bought out by CBS and halting the restoration process. Maybe Paramount+ will have GF and Friends. I hope they have ALL 7 seasons, not the specials (for roku users, you can get that via the kids and family app). I even saw a commercial that had a cameo appearance of Garfield.
For people who don't know who Garfield is, look at its respective wiki here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield)
Quote from: snowc on March 03, 2021, 02:30:18 PM
For people who don't know who Garfield is...
:-D
Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
Quote from: snowc on March 03, 2021, 02:25:02 PM
Spectrum's former company in NC was called Time warner Cable and when timewarner(now known as warner media) spun off the cable company, they eventually became spectrum.
Of course, Spectrum is really just Charter.
VPN access(https://i.imgur.com/6eEIcvN.png)
Invoicing BI site(https://i.imgur.com/gWiz8ob.png)
And I'm looking at a work order right now that says "Charter Communications" at the top, but service items are listed as "Spectrum Internet" and "Spectrum Guide" etc.–as they all do.
Back during the switch, all my e-mail contacts changed from ___@twcable.com to ___@charter.com, with not a ___@spectrum.com to be found.
So far on Pluto they have Perry Mason on their stream.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 03, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
So far on Pluto they have Perry Mason on their stream.
Yes and it's a Paramount+ Pick.
I hope they add Garfield and Friends to there, you only get to see 30 episodes on Boomerang, only to be bought out by CBS and halting the restoration process. Maybe Paramount+ will have GF and Friends. I hope they have ALL 7 seasons, not the specials (for roku users, you can get that via the kids and family app). I even saw a commercial that had a cameo appearance of Garfield.
For people who don't know who Garfield is, look at its respective wiki here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield)
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The rights to Garfield & Friends are actually owned by a company called 9 Story Media Group Inc. They're the ones that are doing the remastering on the show.
Quote from: Route66Fan on March 08, 2021, 10:07:03 AM
I hope they add Garfield and Friends to there, you only get to see 30 episodes on Boomerang, only to be bought out by CBS and halting the restoration process. Maybe Paramount+ will have GF and Friends. I hope they have ALL 7 seasons, not the specials (for roku users, you can get that via the kids and family app). I even saw a commercial that had a cameo appearance of Garfield.
For people who don't know who Garfield is, look at its respective wiki here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield)
The rights to Garfield & Friends are actually owned by a company called 9 Story Media Group Inc. They're the ones that are doing the remastering on the show.
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And it's been receiving the evil eye in the past few years because of them remastering in HD!
I got in on one of their half-off no-ad annual deal before the rebrand, but so far the only thing I tend to watch are Chelsea's Champions League fixtures. (ViacomCBS got the UEFA club competition rights after Turner abandoned them. They've since added Serie A rights beginning next season as well as the current holders of Argentina's first-tier competition, so there could be a strategy of acquiring more sports rights in the future.) I do want to check out Star Trek: Lower Decks at some point, and perhaps I can delve into the vast library as well.
EDIT: World Soccer Talk has an article today highlighting Paramount+'s plans to acquire more rights (https://worldsoccertalk.com/2021/04/06/paramount-plus-ambitious-plans-for-soccer-include-more-acquisitions/).