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Title: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: bing101 on December 22, 2018, 09:45:23 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46663158 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46663158)


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/12/22/indonesian-tsunami-leaves-least-20-dead-165-wounded/2399661002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/12/22/indonesian-tsunami-leaves-least-20-dead-165-wounded/2399661002/)


As of this posting 43 people are reported dead in the Tsunami in Indonesia and also its as a result of Krakatoa volcano eruption.
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: bing101 on December 23, 2018, 12:46:24 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46663158


Update 200 people are reported dead by the Tsunami
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: kalvado on December 23, 2018, 12:54:22 PM
Krakatoa VEI 4 eruption. Vei 4 occurs once in 1.5 year on average.
Lets see if it will grow..
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: Roadgeekteen on December 23, 2018, 08:16:15 PM
Sucks man. Natural disasters can be deadly, and Indonesia has it very bad compared to other places.
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: kalvado on December 23, 2018, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 23, 2018, 08:16:15 PM
Sucks man. Natural disasters can be deadly, and Indonesia has it very bad compared to other places.
set the ring on fire...
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: bing101 on December 24, 2018, 10:36:21 AM
https://www.voanews.com/a/widodo-after-tsunami/4713590.html


Now 373 people are reported dead in this update on the Tsunami.
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: bing101 on December 24, 2018, 09:31:15 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468 (https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468)

    Now theres a report that the Tsunami warning system has not worked since 2012.
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: Roadgeekteen on December 24, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 24, 2018, 09:31:15 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468 (https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468)

    Now theres a report that the Tsunami warning system has not worked since 2012.
Wow. What gross negligence. How does that even happen?
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: oscar on December 24, 2018, 11:54:42 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 24, 2018, 09:31:15 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468 (https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468)

    Now theres a report that the Tsunami warning system has not worked since 2012.

More exactly, that there is no working warning system for non-earthquake related tsunamis, such as from underwater landslides as seems to have happened here.

It's possible no useful warning would be possible for a tsunami generated so close to shore, since by the time the alert is issued the tsunami will have already come ashore. This seems similar to the 1975 tsunami that killed two campers in Hawaii Volcanoes National Park. That was caused by a sudden slide of land recently created by lava flows, that came loose from older flows. Since the tsunami started right off shore, there was almost no time to warn anybody. The low death toll probably was because there was hardly anybody in the vicinity, rather than the quality of the warning system.

Hawaii has a well-developed tsunami warning system. But it's geared to tsunamis triggered by distant earthquakes like in Japan, Alaska, and Chile. That allows plenty of time to figure out whether a tsunami is coming and issue warnings, and for people to get away from the ocean.

One practical pointer -- if a local earthquake strikes while you're at the beach, run like hell inland and onto higher ground, don't wait for sirens or other telltale signs of an imminent tsunami.
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: bing101 on December 25, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46674490


Update 430 people reported dead in the Tsunami.
Title: Re: Indonesian Tsunami 2018
Post by: Bruce on December 26, 2018, 01:27:06 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 24, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 24, 2018, 09:31:15 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468 (https://abcnews.go.com/International/indonesias-tsunami-early-warning-system-worked-2012-official/story?id=59998468)

    Now theres a report that the Tsunami warning system has not worked since 2012.
Wow. What gross negligence. How does that even happen?

Wait 'till you hear about the U.S. situation. There's still large sections of the Pacific Northwest coast with no tsunami monitoring equipment, there's no cellphone alert system (yet), several volcanoes are under-monitored due to a lack of equipment funds and staffing funds...

Not to mention that a lot of the pre-1995 construction here is vulnerable to any kind of major earthquake and would likely collapse. And all the infrastructure. Also, there's a few local faults that weren't discovered until way too late.

In the event of a major Cascadia earthquake, the early death toll is expected to be in the tens of thousands. With logistical issues afterwards, it could rise quickly.