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Title: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: hotdogPi on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
I'm not sure how many of you have heard of ChatGPT, but it's a new chatbot that can create good user essays, write better Star Wars Episodes X-XII than the actual creators can do VII-IX, and a lot more. It contains data up to 2021. However, you cannot rely on it for accuracy. I want to know if the model used any of this forum for training. You will need to create an OpenAI account to use the bot though. Note that you cannot mess up the bot permanently, as it does not learn from user input, which is necessary as previous bots have typically been taken over by Neo-Nazis. This post was written by a human, trust me.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on December 07, 2022, 06:17:50 PM
I've never heard of it, and nobody has contacted the staff asking for permission to do such a thing, so probably not. Unless someone did it without asking. Which would be rude.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Jim on December 07, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
This post was written by a human, trust me.

Sounds like something an AI writer would say to me...
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 07, 2022, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
This post was written by a human, trust me.
ok then solve this
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Captchacat.png)
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: SectorZ on December 07, 2022, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Jim on December 07, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
This post was written by a human, trust me.

Sounds like something an AI writer would say to me...

It kind of has the "who smelt it, dealt it" ideal with starting this thread.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: US 89 on December 07, 2022, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 07, 2022, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Jim on December 07, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
This post was written by a human, trust me.

Sounds like something an AI writer would say to me...

It kind of has the "who smelt it, dealt it" ideal with starting this thread.

Yeah, how do we know "1" doesn't mean the 1st bot to succesfully register?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on December 07, 2022, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 07, 2022, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 07, 2022, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Jim on December 07, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
This post was written by a human, trust me.

Sounds like something an AI writer would say to me...

It kind of has the "who smelt it, dealt it" ideal with starting this thread.

Yeah, how do we know "1" doesn't mean the 1st bot to succesfully register?  :hmmm:

I can confirm that "1" is perfectly valid binary code for "1".
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: bm7 on December 08, 2022, 01:24:49 AM
ChatGPT is based on GPT-3, which was trained using some data from Common Crawl, which is a dataset containing billions of webpages. I checked using their search, and Common Crawl has thousands of pages from this forum in their data, so it's possible but it depends on exactly what data they used for GPT.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: SectorZ on December 08, 2022, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: bm7 on December 08, 2022, 01:24:49 AM
ChatGPT is based on GPT-3, which was trained using some data from Common Crawl, which is a dataset containing billions of webpages. I checked using their search, and Common Crawl has thousands of pages from this forum in their data, so it's possible but it depends on exactly what data they used for GPT.

Thank [fill in deity of choice] it can't see the fictional board.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: algorerhythms on December 08, 2022, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: 1 on December 07, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
I'm not sure how many of you have heard of ChatGPT, but it's a new chatbot that can create good user essays,
For certain values of "good" . I have an account and have been quizzing it on trivia. It knows Wikipedia so it usually gets the trivia questions right. When it gets one wrong and I correct it it either ignores me and insists it's right, or grovels like it's sucking up to me. When I ask it to write trivia questions, though, they are pretty much always terrible.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on December 08, 2022, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 07, 2022, 06:17:50 PM
I've never heard of it, and nobody has contacted the staff asking for permission to do such a thing, so probably not. Unless someone did it without asking. Which would be rude.

That's the thing, all these AI tools don't ask permission. A lot of the art-generating AIs were trained on hundreds of thousands of real art pieces that were taken without permission, and people using those tools are claiming the products as their own art.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Jim on December 08, 2022, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on December 08, 2022, 02:02:09 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 07, 2022, 06:17:50 PM
I've never heard of it, and nobody has contacted the staff asking for permission to do such a thing, so probably not. Unless someone did it without asking. Which would be rude.

That's the thing, all these AI tools don't ask permission. A lot of the art-generating AIs were trained on hundreds of thousands of real art pieces that were taken without permission, and people using those tools are claiming the products as their own art.

Related: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3679748/github-faces-lawsuit-over-copilot-coding-tool.html
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 06, 2023, 06:47:01 PM
what is the aaroads forum?

AARoads Forum is a website dedicated to discussions and information about highways, roads, and transportation topics in the United States and around the world. It is a community for people interested in transportation planning, engineering, and related topics to exchange ideas and information.

I asked it what is the aaroads forum, and this is what it answered with. Seems like it at least knows about the fourm.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: thspfc on February 06, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
Robots will control society by 2040 at the latest.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Rothman on February 06, 2023, 09:16:34 PM
People want ChatGPT to become Skynet.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: formulanone on February 06, 2023, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 06, 2023, 09:16:34 PM
People want ChatGPT to become Skynet.

I would like it to disappear.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: GaryV on February 07, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 08, 2022, 09:54:17 AM
Thank [fill in deity of choice] it can't see the fictional board.

What, you don't want to ask it, "What is the best plan for Long Island that MMM has devised?"

And, "How many new islands can be planned with subway systems?"
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: hbelkins on February 07, 2023, 12:56:28 PM
Has anyone asked it about the flatness of Illinois?
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: algorerhythms on December 08, 2022, 11:09:50 AMFor certain values of "good" . I have an account and have been quizzing it on trivia. It knows Wikipedia so it usually gets the trivia questions right. When it gets one wrong and I correct it it either ignores me and insists it's right, or grovels like it's sucking up to me. When I ask it to write trivia questions, though, they are pretty much always terrible.

It can generate text on the basis that certain phrases containing certain words tend to occur close together in time and space, but since it does this without any deep understanding of their meaning, it cannot develop insight.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: bing101 on February 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PM
ChatGPT for now is all hype. We really need to wait a few years to really understand the impact this technology have on us. How do we separate Venture Capitalist hype from reality is yet to be seen and we need the bubble to pop to really understand if it's a scam or not. Basically we need a dot-com bust and Crypto currency bust to find out the reality.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: kalvado on February 07, 2023, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: algorerhythms on December 08, 2022, 11:09:50 AMFor certain values of "good" . I have an account and have been quizzing it on trivia. It knows Wikipedia so it usually gets the trivia questions right. When it gets one wrong and I correct it it either ignores me and insists it's right, or grovels like it's sucking up to me. When I ask it to write trivia questions, though, they are pretty much always terrible.

It can generate text on the basis that certain phrases containing certain words tend to occur close together in time and space, but since it does this without any deep understanding of their meaning, it cannot develop insight.
Something that is true about a good part of the undergrad cohort as well.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 07, 2023, 05:10:47 PM
I haven't used ChatGPT yet, but I've fiddled around with Stable Diffusion (which generates images). My verdict is that it's not really something I want to use to produce finished images, but it can be useful for generating a starting point that can inspire me to produce my own image.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 07, 2023, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 07, 2023, 12:56:28 PM
Has anyone asked it about the flatness of Illinois?
"No, Illinois is not flat. It has rolling hills, prairies, and some areas of low relief such as the Northern Illinois Glacial Till Plains. The southern and southwestern parts of the state are characterized by more rugged topography, including the Shawnee Hills and the Ozark Plateau."

From Chat GPT. Prompt was "Is Illinois flat?"
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 07, 2023, 09:52:13 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 07, 2023, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 07, 2023, 12:56:28 PM
Has anyone asked it about the flatness of Illinois?
"No, Illinois is not flat. It has rolling hills, prairies, and some areas of low relief such as the Northern Illinois Glacial Till Plains. The southern and southwestern parts of the state are characterized by more rugged topography, including the Shawnee Hills and the Ozark Plateau."

From Chat GPT. Prompt was "Is Illinois flat?"

ChatGPT angling for a ban, I see.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: US 89 on February 07, 2023, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I'd love to see how well a concrete-paved truck ramp works.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: SectorZ on February 08, 2023, 06:42:52 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I don't see anything about helicopters and grappling hooks in there either.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 07, 2023, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I'd love to see how well a concrete-paved truck ramp works.
It might work if you installed some kind of gate or netting at regular intervals that would pop up as the truck rolled up the ramp and prevent it from rolling back down the ramp, but building it out of sand or dirt seems much simpler to me.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Rothman on February 08, 2023, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 07, 2023, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I'd love to see how well a concrete-paved truck ramp works.
It might work if you installed some kind of gate or netting at regular intervals that would pop up as the truck rolled up the ramp and prevent it from rolling back down the ramp, but building it out of sand or dirt seems much simpler to me.
I've seen sand/dirt ramps combined with barriers.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 08, 2023, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 07, 2023, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I'd love to see how well a concrete-paved truck ramp works.
It might work if you installed some kind of gate or netting at regular intervals that would pop up as the truck rolled up the ramp and prevent it from rolling back down the ramp, but building it out of sand or dirt seems much simpler to me.
I've seen sand/dirt ramps combined with barriers.
Is there any interest in installing the arrester blocks like they have at the ends of some airport runways to stop planes from running off the end of the runway?  Or is that infeasible due to the frequency with which runaway trucks use runaway truck ramps?
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: J N Winkler on February 08, 2023, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 11:31:50 AMIs there any interest in installing the arrester blocks like they have at the ends of some airport runways to stop planes from running off the end of the runway?  Or is that infeasible due to the frequency with which runaway trucks use runaway truck ramps?

In North America we now have at least five paved runaway truck ramps that use cable arrestors.  It's a new technology in this application, so presumably the press releases, news articles, etc. are more accessible to ChatGPT for "learning" than other documentation on how ramps work.  The overwhelming majority still use either sand piles or gravel arrestor beds.

ChatGPT also appears not to understand that ramps on falling grades are a thing (Oregon DOT is believed to have built the first on I-5 at Siskiyou Pass in 1978).
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: kalvado on February 08, 2023, 12:25:30 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 08, 2023, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on February 08, 2023, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 07, 2023, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I'd love to see how well a concrete-paved truck ramp works.
It might work if you installed some kind of gate or netting at regular intervals that would pop up as the truck rolled up the ramp and prevent it from rolling back down the ramp, but building it out of sand or dirt seems much simpler to me.
I've seen sand/dirt ramps combined with barriers.
Is there any interest in installing the arrester blocks like they have at the ends of some airport runways to stop planes from running off the end of the runway?  Or is that infeasible due to the frequency with which runaway trucks use runaway truck ramps?
I heard those crushable concrete blocks are fairly expensive - especially once most runways got modified and production dwindled.
Besides crushable blocks are single use, so  once truck is caught, entire ramp needs to be redone.  Sand is simply cheaper, and post-use service is minimal....
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: hbelkins on February 08, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
Someone with access to ChatGPT, ask it about Alanland.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: J N Winkler on February 08, 2023, 07:53:14 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2023, 07:47:52 PMSomeone with access to ChatGPT, ask it about Alanland.

Prompt:  "Tell us about Alanland."

ChatGPT:  "I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the term 'Alanland.' Could you provide more context or clarification on what you would like to know?"
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 09, 2023, 12:18:05 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
Someone with access to ChatGPT, ask it about Alanland.
Fictional Highways in not publicly searchable due to it being a members only board so I doubt it would pop up.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 09, 2023, 01:18:54 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 09, 2023, 12:18:05 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
Someone with access to ChatGPT, ask it about Alanland.
Fictional Highways in not publicly searchable due to it being a members only board so I doubt it would pop up.

Quindaropedia is, however.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: J N Winkler on February 09, 2023, 02:23:59 AM
I had another go.

Prompt:  "Please state the political party and policy positions of the current Grand Alan."

ChatGPT:  "I'm sorry, but there is no current political figure or office called 'Grand Alan.' Could you please provide more context or clarify your question?"
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: thspfc on February 14, 2023, 07:00:46 PM
I've started playing with this thing more, and honestly, it's way too smart. I asked it about myself. It knows where I live, how old I am, and what sports I played in high school. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 14, 2023, 08:31:24 PM
The thing to remember is, at its core, ChatGPT is nothing more than an extremely powerful Markov chain generator. Markov chain generators just look at a body of data and predict what the most likely word to come next is. That is the same idea underlying autocorrect on your phone. ChatGPT has just been fed a giant corpus of data and then weighted it so that certain results are more likely to come up. 

We all know how well autocorrect works. That fact, taken with the fact that both Google and Microsoft want to add AI results to their search engines, is nothing short of terrifying.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: algorerhythms on February 14, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
Autocorrect works great on mobile and it is very useful to use the word in a sentence or sentence in the dictionary for a word that has a lot to say and it can also help to explain what it is.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: SSOWorld on February 15, 2023, 05:49:16 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 07, 2023, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 07, 2023, 12:56:28 PM
Has anyone asked it about the flatness of Illinois?
"No, Illinois is not flat. It has rolling hills, prairies, and some areas of low relief such as the Northern Illinois Glacial Till Plains. The southern and southwestern parts of the state are characterized by more rugged topography, including the Shawnee Hills and the Ozark Plateau."

From Chat GPT. Prompt was "Is Illinois flat?"
I can't hear you over the sound of how flat Illinois is.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 15, 2023, 06:07:11 AM
Quote from: algorerhythms on February 14, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
Autocorrect works great on mobile and it is very useful to use the word in a sentence or sentence in the dictionary for a word that has a lot to say and it can also help to explain what it is.

Autocorrect is a great place to work on the barn tomorrow and we are going to be a trained mage to make this work for us as well as the brand new and new features of the people who have been in the ocean for a long time and are now in the process of getting a new one we will be back by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: hotdogPi on February 15, 2023, 06:39:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 15, 2023, 06:07:11 AM
Quote from: algorerhythms on February 14, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
Autocorrect works great on mobile and it is very useful to use the word in a sentence or sentence in the dictionary for a word that has a lot to say and it can also help to explain what it is.

Autocorrect is a great place to work on the barn tomorrow and we are going to be a trained mage to make this work for us as well as the brand new and new features of the people who have been in the ocean for a long time and are now in the process of getting a new one we will be back by the end of the year.

Autocorrect and autocomplete are two different things.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 15, 2023, 06:49:17 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 15, 2023, 06:39:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 15, 2023, 06:07:11 AM
Quote from: algorerhythms on February 14, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
Autocorrect works great on mobile and it is very useful to use the word in a sentence or sentence in the dictionary for a word that has a lot to say and it can also help to explain what it is.

Autocorrect is a great place to work on the barn tomorrow and we are going to be a trained mage to make this work for us as well as the brand new and new features of the people who have been in the ocean for a long time and are now in the process of getting a new one we will be back by the end of the year.

Autocorrect and autocomplete are two different things.

Semantically, yes, but the underlying procedure is not really all that different (they both involve looking at a chain of words to deduce what the next word is likely to be; autocorrect merely examines the last word entered to see if it matches the expected last word, while autocomplete adds additional words onto the end of the chain).

In any case, what I posted is the result of a Markov chain, the same tech that undergirds ChatGPT. The training corpus is simply "text Scott has written on his phone" (you can see that the work I was doing on my aborted cannabis grow, as well as my D&D game, have leaked in there) instead of "theoretically everything" as it is for ChatGPT.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 06:15:04 AM
Prompt: Write a song about U.S. Federal Route 31W

Quote from: ChatGPT
Verse 1

From the hills of Kentucky, to the shores of Alabama
U.S. 31W is the road that will take us home
It's a winding highway, stretching far and wide
Wherever we go, it's by our side

Chorus

U.S. 31W, take us home
It's a road that will never go wrong
U.S. 31W, take us there
Wherever we roam, we'll never be alone

Verse 2

From the rolling fields of Tennessee, to the swamps of Louisiana
U.S. 31W is the road that will never fail
It's a journey of discovery, with so many sights to see
We'll never forget the memories it brings to us

Chorus

U.S. 31W, take us home
It's a road that will never go wrong
U.S. 31W, take us there
Wherever we roam, we'll never be alone

Verse 3

From the banks of the Ohio, to the shores of the Gulf of Mexico
U.S. 31W is the road that will never die
It's a journey through the heartland, filled with beauty and delight
It's a road that will always be there for us tonight

Chorus

U.S. 31W, take us home
It's a road that will never go wrong
U.S. 31W, take us there
Wherever we roam, we'll never be alone

Well, I mean, it's better than the alternative...
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 06:51:08 AM
Prompt: Write the national anthem for an absurd country called Alanland that values goats and quoting long posts

Quote from: ChatGPT
O Alanland, we hail thee,
Our country of goats and posts,
We honor thy greatness,
And all that it boasts.

Our loyalty is strong,
Our spirit is true,
Our goats are our pride,
And our posts are our due.

We'll fight for our right,
To quote and to post,
Our goats are the best,
From coast to coast.

Our Alanland is grand,
And our future is bright,
Our people are strong,
And our goats are a sight.

So raise up your voice,
And sing out with pride,
For our Alanland,
We will always abide.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: hbelkins on February 22, 2023, 10:47:24 AM
Wait? 31-Dub goes to Louisiana now? (Not to mention it being mentioned for Alabama).
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on February 22, 2023, 11:28:15 AM
If ChatGPT doesn't learn from user input then what's the point of giving feedback? Also, it claims that it does learn from user input when you ask it that.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: hotdogPi on February 22, 2023, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 22, 2023, 11:28:15 AM
If ChatGPT doesn't learn from user input then what's the point of giving feedback? Also, it claims that it does learn from user input when you ask it that.

It learns within a conversation, but not for future conversations. The reason this is the case is because several prior chatbots were taken over by neo-Nazis within 24 hours.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on February 22, 2023, 12:20:28 PM
Well then what's the point if it can't integrate data from previous conversations? What a scam! And who cares if people try to brainwash it? With 100 million users, the effects of that would all cancel itself out, and it's worth any of those risks to see how truly advanced AI can get. AI shouldn't be censored for potentially offensive content.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: kphoger on February 22, 2023, 01:11:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 15, 2023, 06:07:11 AM
Autocorrect is a great place to work on the barn tomorrow and we are going to be a trained mage to make this work for us as well as the brand new and new features of the people who have been in the ocean for a long time and are now in the process of getting a new one we will be back by the end of the year.

My wife and I had a period of time when, while sitting bored in the living room, we'd text each other stuff like this from across the room.  As another fun alternative, I'd swype random patterns and let my phone decide what words I meant.

Quote from: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 06:51:08 AM
Prompt: Write the national anthem for an absurd country called Alanland that values goats and quoting long posts

Quote from: ChatGPT
O Alanland, we hail thee,
Our country of goats and posts,
We honor thy greatness,
And all that it boasts.

Our loyalty is strong,
Our spirit is true,
Our goats are our pride,
And our posts are our due.

We'll fight for our right,
To quote and to post,
Our goats are the best,
From coast to coast.

Our Alanland is grand,
And our future is bright,
Our people are strong,
And our goats are a sight.

So raise up your voice,
And sing out with pride,
For our Alanland,
We will always abide.


Too lazy to come up with a decent rhyme for 'coat to cost'...
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 22, 2023, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 22, 2023, 12:20:28 PM
Well then what's the point if it can't integrate data from previous conversations? What a scam! And who cares if people try to brainwash it? With 100 million users, the effects of that would all cancel itself out, and it's worth any of those risks to see how truly advanced AI can get. AI shouldn't be censored for potentially offensive content.
They already have trouble with overloading the server, letting it use your past conversations would probably make the thing blow up.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: triplemultiplex on February 22, 2023, 01:51:07 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 06:51:08 AM
Prompt: Write the national anthem for an absurd country called Alanland that values goats and quoting long posts

Quote from: ChatGPT
O Alanland, we hail thee,
Our country of goats and posts,
We honor thy greatness,
And all that it boasts.

Our loyalty is strong,
Our spirit is true,
Our goats are our pride,
And our posts are our due.

We'll fight for our right,
To quote and to post,
Our goats are the best,
From coast to coast.

Our Alanland is grand,
And our future is bright,
Our people are strong,
And our goats are a sight.

So raise up your voice,
And sing out with pride,
For our Alanland,
We will always abide.

Alanland abides.  Nice.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: CoreySamson on February 22, 2023, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 06:15:04 AM
Prompt: Write a song about U.S. Federal Route 31W

Quote from: ChatGPT
Verse 1

From the hills of Kentucky, to the shores of Alabama
U.S. 31W is the road that will take us home
It's a winding highway, stretching far and wide
Wherever we go, it's by our side

Chorus

U.S. 31W, take us home
It's a road that will never go wrong
U.S. 31W, take us there
Wherever we roam, we'll never be alone

Verse 2

From the rolling fields of Tennessee, to the swamps of Louisiana
U.S. 31W is the road that will never fail
It's a journey of discovery, with so many sights to see
We'll never forget the memories it brings to us

Chorus

U.S. 31W, take us home
It's a road that will never go wrong
U.S. 31W, take us there
Wherever we roam, we'll never be alone

Verse 3

From the banks of the Ohio, to the shores of the Gulf of Mexico
U.S. 31W is the road that will never die
It's a journey through the heartland, filled with beauty and delight
It's a road that will always be there for us tonight

Chorus

U.S. 31W, take us home
It's a road that will never go wrong
U.S. 31W, take us there
Wherever we roam, we'll never be alone

Well, I mean, it's better than the alternative...
I feel like this would be great as a country song. Now I just need to find a Telly to make this a reality.

Crap, now I have a nonexistent song stuck in my head...
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 22, 2023, 12:20:28 PM
Well then what's the point if it can't integrate data from previous conversations? What a scam! And who cares if people try to brainwash it? With 100 million users, the effects of that would all cancel itself out, and it's worth any of those risks to see how truly advanced AI can get. AI shouldn't be censored for potentially offensive content.

While the concern that was mentioned is a real one, I believe the real reason is privacy concerns. If I want to use ChatGPT to, say, help me write a memo about something that's going on at work about a top secret project, I wouldn't want it remembering what I was doing and carelessly blabbing to the next person who asks questions about that topic area (who may well work at a competing company).
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 22, 2023, 09:14:43 PM
That was just the first thing I thought of. There are plenty of reasons one might not want one's ChatGPT session to bleed over into someone else's.

There's no need to test its "long term memory" because that would be a trivial thing to implement; you'd just incorporate all input into the training corpus. (Which is why Microsoft's Tay chat bot got shut down–white supremacists were feeding it documents espousing their ideology.)
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: MultiMillionMiler on February 22, 2023, 09:24:52 PM
Not saying it's right, but it would be interesting to let hundreds of millions of humans try to indoctrinate it with all their whacky ideas, and see what positions it would finally take on key issues. Since it has access to factual data on the internet (as well as biased info) it would be interesting to see what views it would develop after fact checking and evaluating contradictions in billions of different view points.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Scott5114 on February 23, 2023, 01:54:27 AM
Meh. If I want to hear idiotic viewpoints, I've got my dad on speed dial.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on February 25, 2023, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 07, 2023, 09:04:19 PM
Prompt:  "Explain how runaway truck ramps work"

ChatGPT:  "Runaway truck ramps (also known as emergency escape ramps) are designed to assist truck drivers in stopping their vehicles in the event of a brake failure. These ramps are usually located on steep highways and mountain roads, where the risk of trucks losing control and speeding down the road is high. The ramps work by providing an inclined surface for the truck's wheels to roll up, gradually slowing down the vehicle as it comes to a stop. The ramps are typically made of concrete or asphalt, and are angled in such a way as to ensure that the truck's momentum is gradually absorbed as it rolls up the ramp. Once the truck comes to a stop, it can be safely parked or attended to by the authorities."

It sounds high-verbal, but look closely and you can see how nonsensical it is.

I dunno. It reads like a Wikipedia post to me.
Title: Re: Is any of this forum in ChatGPT's corpus?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on February 25, 2023, 10:42:34 PM
Chat GPT explains induced demand. What do you think?

Prompt: Explain the concept of induced demand when it comes to highways. Give reasons that support it and also some arguments against it.

Chat GPT: Induced demand refers to the phenomenon whereby the construction of new highways or the expansion of existing ones results in an increase in the total number of vehicles on the road, rather than a decrease in congestion. This increase in demand is typically caused by factors such as improved accessibility, reduced travel times, and increased mobility.

There are several reasons that support the concept of induced demand. One key factor is that the construction of new highways or the expansion of existing ones can reduce the cost of driving, making it a more attractive option for people who might otherwise use public transportation or choose not to travel at all. Additionally, the construction of new highways can lead to increased development in previously inaccessible areas, which in turn can lead to further increases in vehicle traffic.

Another argument in favor of induced demand is that the perceived benefits of new highways can encourage people to move further away from city centers, which can lead to longer commutes and more overall vehicle usage. This effect can be especially pronounced in areas with limited public transportation options.

However, there are also arguments against the concept of induced demand. Some critics argue that the phenomenon is largely overstated, and that new highways and expansions are actually effective at reducing congestion in many cases. Others argue that the benefits of increased mobility and accessibility outweigh any potential negative effects of induced demand, and that the construction of new highways is necessary for continued economic growth and development.

In summary, while there is some debate around the concept of induced demand, it is generally understood to be a real phenomenon that can have significant impacts on transportation and urban planning. The degree to which induced demand affects a given area will depend on a variety of factors, including the availability of public transportation, the local economy, and the behavior of individual drivers.