US 93 In Arizona Progress

[Henry]

It HAS to be decommissioned because it VIOLATES THE GRID by going EAST OF US-91

...is what Fictional Highways would have said if it was around in 1954.

Right now, I'd be satisified with ADOT just paving the damn thing. The southbound lanes between Hoover Dam and Kingman were in pretty rough shape last time I was there, back in May.

In the same vein, "Why pick I-11 if it exists east of I-15?" is the question that Fictional Highways might be asking nowadays. I'd say we should be glad that at least it's not I-13!

BTW, US 91 has not existed in NV since it was decommissioned 50 years ago. And not acknowledging that I-11 will eventually cross the state line is an idiotic move on ADOT's part.

[Scott5114]

BTW, US 91 has not existed in NV since it was decommissioned 50 years ago.

That's the joke...

I'd say we should be glad that at least it's not I-13!

NDOT has better sense than to try and get an I-13 built in Las Vegas of all places. (11 has a more positive connotation—in craps, it's a win for the pass line on a come-out roll. See, I've been studying for my Nevada citizenship exam!)

[Plutonic Panda]

Article about the West Kingman Interchange: https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/traffic/new-u-s-93-i-40-interchange-planned-for-route-between-las-vegas-phoenix-2973288/?fbclid=IwAR3Gdr6mBqr5IbVVPUMcF_aS3ZS5ZqaRQD8iyMo7QbWclCmPnoOrDrDb7L0_aem_AQF3eeOGLMZ9d1fcPgu3oI2s99_lcI4jw-uvNk5juTw0wy7AtJ8w6smGt5guEON96LU

[Scott5114]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

[vdeane]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I guess they don't plan to upgrade it to I-11 any time soon then.

[Henry]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I guess they don't plan to upgrade it to I-11 any time soon then.

Or maybe they're looking to build a bypass of the town, which may explain the signal on the current road.

[ilpt4u]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I have never driven US 93 south of Nevada, so this question is just from looking at Google Maps:

Where is this Bonanza Road crossing of US 93? I traced 93's route north of I-40 and did not see it. I very well may have missed it

[vdeane]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I have never driven US 93 south of Nevada, so this question is just from looking at Google Maps:

Where is this Bonanza Road crossing of US 93? I traced 93's route north of I-40 and did not see it. I very well may have missed it

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tar5iPU4HFiELH1s9

[KeithE4Phx]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I have never driven US 93 south of Nevada, so this question is just from looking at Google Maps:

Where is this Bonanza Road crossing of US 93? I traced 93's route north of I-40 and did not see it. I very well may have missed it

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tar5iPU4HFiELH1s9

I was up that way in late January.  Don't bother with them.  Gas up in Kingman if going north, and in Nevada if going south.  They were at $4.59/gallon, while Kingman was at $3.65 and Las Vegas was around $4.  Those stations were always price-gougers, although not as bad as Wickieup (near $6/gallon).

[Sonic99]

I believe there were several really bad accidents there with it being an uncontrolled intersection so ADOT got the signal installed to help out in the short term. Don't think there's much to read into in terms of ADOT's intentions for I-11 later on.

[DJStephens]

I believe there were several really bad accidents there with it being an uncontrolled intersection so ADOT got the signal installed to help out in the short term. Don't think there's much to read into in terms of ADOT's intentions for I-11 later on.

Yep it's a short to medium term fix.  Enough room there, going by the image, to construct a tight diamond interchange, with MSE retaining walls, with 11 and US 93 going over Bonanza, on current alignment.     

[pderocco]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I have never driven US 93 south of Nevada, so this question is just from looking at Google Maps:

Where is this Bonanza Road crossing of US 93? I traced 93's route north of I-40 and did not see it. I very well may have missed it

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tar5iPU4HFiELH1s9

North of Kingman? That's an odd way to describe this location. Especially since there's a Bonanza Dr in Kingman NE of downtown. I'd never have found the right one without that link.

I would think a bypass would be more likely. There's a lot of "free" land out there.

[DJStephens]

Again, judging by image, there is frankly not much there.  More cost effective and sensible to stay on alignment.   

[Bobby5280]

It might actually be cheaper to just upgrade on the existing alignment thru that spot. Attempting to bypass would result is significantly more new road to build.

[KeithE4Phx]

There's a traffic signal at Bonanza Road north of Kingman now. Fun.

I have never driven US 93 south of Nevada, so this question is just from looking at Google Maps:

Where is this Bonanza Road crossing of US 93? I traced 93's route north of I-40 and did not see it. I very well may have missed it

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tar5iPU4HFiELH1s9

North of Kingman? That's an odd way to describe this location. Especially since there's a Bonanza Dr in Kingman NE of downtown. I'd never have found the right one without that link.

The ZIP Code for that section of Mohave County is 86445, which covers Willow Beach and White Hills.  Despite what Google Maps says, it is not a Kingman ZIP Code.

I would think a bypass would be more likely. There's a lot of "free" land out there.

Last I heard, the upgrade of US 93 to I-11 north of AZ 68 will use the existing roadway, with pavement improvements (badly needed!), frontage roads as necessary, and several interchanges.  I haven't heard about any planned alternatives in recent years (but correct me if I'm wrong).

[The Ghostbuster]

The entire US 93 corridor in Arizona goes through some truly desolate land. Outside of a short bypass of Wikieup, both segments of US 93 between the Arizona/Nevada border and Wickenburg could mostly be upgraded into Interstate 11 on its existing alignment.

[Scott5114]

North of Kingman? That's an odd way to describe this location.

I'm not really sure how else you'd describe that location besides "north of Kingman" other than maybe "south of Boulder City". Maybe you could describe it relative to Willow Beach (apparently that's the postal city for 86445, with Kingman and White Hills listed as "acceptable"), but given that US 93 doesn't actually serve Willow Beach (which as far as I can tell is just a beach and not an actual settlement), that seems awkward too. "In rural Mohave County" is true, but not really precise.

I dunno, I'm new to this whole living in the West thing, so if there's a way a local would describe this that I'm not grasping, I'm all ears.

[pderocco]

North of Kingman? That's an odd way to describe this location.

I'm not really sure how else you'd describe that location besides "north of Kingman" other than maybe "south of Boulder City". Maybe you could describe it relative to Willow Beach (apparently that's the postal city for 86445, with Kingman and White Hills listed as "acceptable"), but given that US 93 doesn't actually serve Willow Beach (which as far as I can tell is just a beach and not an actual settlement), that seems awkward too. "In rural Mohave County" is true, but not really precise.

I dunno, I'm new to this whole living in the West thing, so if there's a way a local would describe this that I'm not grasping, I'm all ears.

Yeah, there really is no good way, if there isn't clearly a town or community name on the map. I didn't mean to sound critical. It was just a coincidence that I searched on Bonanza Dr and came up with something else much closer to Kingman. I'd probably describe this location as "south of Hoover Dam", or "25 miles south of Hoover Dam".

I wonder if they'll soon need a light at the Pilot truck stop just south of there, where CR-145 leads to a community called White Hills. I don't know if that generates any meaningful traffic, though. And eventually, if they build a freeway to Interstate standards, they'll have to choose one place for the interchange, and build frontage roads for all the abutters. So it might be easier to bypass and then call the old road BR-11.

[Max Rockatansky]

I take it you guys aren't a fan of White Hills?  Truth be told I'm more of a Chloride and Santa Claus man myself.