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[Rothman]

No.

Might as well at this point.

[interstatefan990]

No.

I second that.

Boltzman Brain theory is a religion now?

Doesn't that only explain how we're here, not why we're here?

Not really, if true it would just prove that the reality around us is false.  It certainly wouldn't provide much insight if any on "how"  any of us are here.

Not the "step-by-step instructions" kind of how, the "this is what happens" kind of how.

If reality as we know it is a complete fabrication because we are brains floating in the void, wouldn't we need to start over determining "how"  with everything?

Let me put it this way: If someone asks you "How do you like your eggs?" you wouldn't respond with an explanation of what about eggs causes you to like them. You'd say "oh, I like them x way". That's what I mean when I say that brain theory attempts to explain how we're here. Like, it unilaterally offers a possible description of our continuous, physical state of being.

[Max Rockatansky]

No.

I second that.

Boltzman Brain theory is a religion now?

Doesn't that only explain how we're here, not why we're here?

Not really, if true it would just prove that the reality around us is false.  It certainly wouldn't provide much insight if any on "how"  any of us are here.

Not the "step-by-step instructions" kind of how, the "this is what happens" kind of how.

If reality as we know it is a complete fabrication because we are brains floating in the void, wouldn't we need to start over determining "how"  with everything?

Let me put it this way: If someone asks you "How do you like your eggs?" you wouldn't respond with an explanation of what about eggs causes you to like them. You'd say "oh, I like them x way". That's what I mean when I say that brain theory attempts to explain how we're here. Like, it unilaterally offers a possible description of our continuous, physical state of being.

Does it though?  If you've constructed a vast imaginary universe for yourself to occupy and interact with, wouldn't you just convince yourself at a surface conscious level that eggs are real?  What fun is playing in a mental simulated universe if you can't adhere to your own set of rules and structure?

[interstatefan990]

No.

I second that.

Boltzman Brain theory is a religion now?

Doesn't that only explain how we're here, not why we're here?

Not really, if true it would just prove that the reality around us is false.  It certainly wouldn't provide much insight if any on "how"  any of us are here.

Not the "step-by-step instructions" kind of how, the "this is what happens" kind of how.

If reality as we know it is a complete fabrication because we are brains floating in the void, wouldn't we need to start over determining "how"  with everything?

Let me put it this way: If someone asks you "How do you like your eggs?" you wouldn't respond with an explanation of what about eggs causes you to like them. You'd say "oh, I like them x way". That's what I mean when I say that brain theory attempts to explain how we're here. Like, it unilaterally offers a possible description of our continuous, physical state of being.

Does it though?  If you've constructed a vast imaginary universe for yourself to occupy and interact with, wouldn't you just convince yourself at a surface conscious level that eggs are real?  What fun is playing in a mental simulated universe if you can't adhere to your own set of rules and structure?

That's the thing. Philosophy isn't supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be logical. Also, if that were true, then why are sadness, suffering, and war a thing? Doesn't the self only want what's best for the self?

[Max Rockatansky]

No.

I second that.

Boltzman Brain theory is a religion now?

Doesn't that only explain how we're here, not why we're here?

Not really, if true it would just prove that the reality around us is false.  It certainly wouldn't provide much insight if any on "how"  any of us are here.

Not the "step-by-step instructions" kind of how, the "this is what happens" kind of how.

If reality as we know it is a complete fabrication because we are brains floating in the void, wouldn't we need to start over determining "how"  with everything?

Let me put it this way: If someone asks you "How do you like your eggs?" you wouldn't respond with an explanation of what about eggs causes you to like them. You'd say "oh, I like them x way". That's what I mean when I say that brain theory attempts to explain how we're here. Like, it unilaterally offers a possible description of our continuous, physical state of being.

Does it though?  If you've constructed a vast imaginary universe for yourself to occupy and interact with, wouldn't you just convince yourself at a surface conscious level that eggs are real?  What fun is playing in a mental simulated universe if you can't adhere to your own set of rules and structure?

That's the thing. Philosophy isn't supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be logical. Also, if that were true, then why are sadness, suffering, and war a thing? Doesn't the self only want what's best for the self?

Could all be imaginary facets of a reality that doesn't actually exist.  Essentially everything would be for nothing on a high enough level of consciousness.  I could see a consciousness occupying an empty void attempting to give itself purpose, if even it was just a fabrication.

[interstatefan990]

Could all be imaginary facets of a reality that doesn't actually exist.  Essentially everything would be for nothing on a high enough level of consciousness.  I could see a consciousness occupying an empty void attempting to give itself purpose, if even it was just a fabrication.

Love doesn't exist? Pain dosen't exist? Also, everything already is ultimately for nothing. Earth already is a planet filling a microscopic sliver of an empty void, full of humans with consciousness trying to give themselves purpose (which, in my opinion, true purpose does not and never will exist).

[vdeane]

Could all be imaginary facets of a reality that doesn't actually exist.  Essentially everything would be for nothing on a high enough level of consciousness.  I could see a consciousness occupying an empty void attempting to give itself purpose, if even it was just a fabrication.

Love doesn't exist? Pain dosen't exist? Also, everything already is ultimately for nothing. Earth already is a planet filling a microscopic sliver of an empty void, full of humans with consciousness trying to give themselves purpose (which, in my opinion, true purpose does not and never will exist).

This feels appropriate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBkQngrwXqg

[Scott5114]

We need an aaroads subforum to discuss religion and philosophy

New epistemological frameworks:
Sault Sainte John Madden
Booger Queenism
Jadesouttenism
Soukyism

[hbelkins]

Why does this thread exist

Because it exists, Roll the Bones.

(Truth be told, one of my least-favorite Rush songs.)[

Let me put it this way: If someone asks you "How do you like your eggs?" you wouldn't respond with an explanation of what about eggs causes you to like them. You'd say "oh, I like them x way". That's what I mean when I say that brain theory attempts to explain how we're here. Like, it unilaterally offers a possible description of our continuous, physical state of being.

I don't particularly like eggs, but if I did, I'd like them a lot cheaper than they are now.

[Roadgeekteen]

Broken quote does not please the goat

[SectorZ]

Why does this thread exist

Because it exists, Roll the Bones.

(Truth be told, one of my least-favorite Rush songs.)

I was listening to this on a bike ride today and love it but that rap section aged poorly.