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ET21

Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 10, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 10, 2016, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Why did IDOT remove the EB I-190 to NB Mannheim Rd ramp?

Construction? Plus with the new interchange allowing access to Balmoral, it's probably best to eliminate that exit if you can access it earlier with better flow

I think only SB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral.

Actually NB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral with the new construction.

I wonder if one of the reasons for doing the huge Balmoral interchange with Mannheim was to eliminate some of the more dangerous ramps on I-190 while providing access from the airport to the entertainment district/hotels in Rosemont. I personally hate using WB 190 to NB US-12/45 ramp because of it's sudden turn and routing.

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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90


paulthemapguy

Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 10, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 10, 2016, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Why did IDOT remove the EB I-190 to NB Mannheim Rd ramp?

Construction? Plus with the new interchange allowing access to Balmoral, it's probably best to eliminate that exit if you can access it earlier with better flow

I think only SB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral.

Actually NB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral with the new construction.

I wonder if one of the reasons for doing the huge Balmoral interchange with Mannheim was to eliminate some of the more dangerous ramps on I-190 while providing access from the airport to the entertainment district/hotels in Rosemont. I personally hate using WB 190 to NB US-12/45 ramp because of it's sudden turn and routing.

Edit: Post 1000!!!  :) :) :)

The biggest problem on I-190 is the close proximity of the ramps to one another, from Bessie Coleman Dr east to I-294.  There's an onramp, and in two more second, there's the offramp you needed!  wahp wahp.   I'd be heavily in favor of removing some of the ramps joining I-190 and Mannheim.  Or at least reconfiguring some of that mess, especially the ramps in the northeast quadrant that are scrunched because of the railroad.
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Stephane Dumas

I saw this one via http://tollroadsnews.com/news-briefs/daily-news-brief-august-12-2016/#brief-article2 about the idea of express toll lanes for I-55 in Cook and DuPage counties.

QuoteDaily Herald reports, "The Illinois Department of Transportation Thursday [August 11] asked construction firms to submit ideas on how to build two tolled express lanes on I-55 in DuPage and Cook counties."  The report adds, "The public-private partnership is a result of the state's budget woes and absence of a capital plan, as well as the necessity of fixing chronic traffic jams on I-55."  http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160811/news/160819717/

Chicago Tribune adds, "Private firms need to submit their ideas by Sept. 8, with a public forum scheduled for Sept. 20 at the Holiday Inn O'Hare. IDOT needs approval from the General Assembly for the I-55 toll project."  http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-stevenson-i55-toll-lanes-0812-biz-20160811-story.html

Brandon

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 16, 2016, 11:27:15 AM
I saw this one via http://tollroadsnews.com/news-briefs/daily-news-brief-august-12-2016/#brief-article2 about the idea of express toll lanes for I-55 in Cook and DuPage counties.

QuoteDaily Herald reports, "The Illinois Department of Transportation Thursday [August 11] asked construction firms to submit ideas on how to build two tolled express lanes on I-55 in DuPage and Cook counties."  The report adds, "The public-private partnership is a result of the state's budget woes and absence of a capital plan, as well as the necessity of fixing chronic traffic jams on I-55."  http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160811/news/160819717/

Chicago Tribune adds, "Private firms need to submit their ideas by Sept. 8, with a public forum scheduled for Sept. 20 at the Holiday Inn O'Hare. IDOT needs approval from the General Assembly for the I-55 toll project."  http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-stevenson-i55-toll-lanes-0812-biz-20160811-story.html

I'd rather see it simply sold to ISHTA rather than have a private consortium do it.  Having seen what a private consortium does to the Indiana Toll Road, I don't trust them.
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hobsini2

Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 11, 2016, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 10, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 10, 2016, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Why did IDOT remove the EB I-190 to NB Mannheim Rd ramp?

Construction? Plus with the new interchange allowing access to Balmoral, it's probably best to eliminate that exit if you can access it earlier with better flow

I think only SB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral.

Actually NB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral with the new construction.

I wonder if one of the reasons for doing the huge Balmoral interchange with Mannheim was to eliminate some of the more dangerous ramps on I-190 while providing access from the airport to the entertainment district/hotels in Rosemont. I personally hate using WB 190 to NB US-12/45 ramp because of it's sudden turn and routing.

Edit: Post 1000!!!  :) :) :)

The biggest problem on I-190 is the close proximity of the ramps to one another, from Bessie Coleman Dr east to I-294.  There's an onramp, and in two more second, there's the offramp you needed!  wahp wahp.   I'd be heavily in favor of removing some of the ramps joining I-190 and Mannheim.  Or at least reconfiguring some of that mess, especially the ramps in the northeast quadrant that are scrunched because of the railroad.

The next thing that needs to be addressed on I-190 EB is the NB Mannheim to EB 190 ramp and the EB 190 to SB 294 ramp. The big issue there is no room for a true merge between those ramps. And people on the NB Mannheim to EB 190 ramp NEVER yield despite there being a Yield sign.

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paulthemapguy

^I agree that this section of the EB lanes is the most egregious.  There's a pitiful amount of space for traffic to weave.
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Joe The Dragon

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 20, 2016, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 11, 2016, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 10, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 10, 2016, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Why did IDOT remove the EB I-190 to NB Mannheim Rd ramp?

Construction? Plus with the new interchange allowing access to Balmoral, it's probably best to eliminate that exit if you can access it earlier with better flow

I think only SB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral.

Actually NB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral with the new construction.

I wonder if one of the reasons for doing the huge Balmoral interchange with Mannheim was to eliminate some of the more dangerous ramps on I-190 while providing access from the airport to the entertainment district/hotels in Rosemont. I personally hate using WB 190 to NB US-12/45 ramp because of it's sudden turn and routing.

Edit: Post 1000!!!  :) :) :)

The biggest problem on I-190 is the close proximity of the ramps to one another, from Bessie Coleman Dr east to I-294.  There's an onramp, and in two more second, there's the offramp you needed!  wahp wahp.   I'd be heavily in favor of removing some of the ramps joining I-190 and Mannheim.  Or at least reconfiguring some of that mess, especially the ramps in the northeast quadrant that are scrunched because of the railroad.

The next thing that needs to be addressed on I-190 EB is the NB Mannheim to EB 190 ramp and the EB 190 to SB 294 ramp. The big issue there is no room for a true merge between those ramps. And people on the NB Mannheim to EB 190 ramp NEVER yield despite there being a Yield sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9813487,-87.8766412,3a,75y,30.94h,89.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgd1T426aA4du_Aedrjm4kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

What about the rewidening? of I-190? The Cumberland Flyover / I-90 winding plans show an 3 lane I-190.

hobsini2

Actually, 190 itself as a 2 lanes each way with an aux exit lane works fine. Traffic does not back up on that often. The big issue is the lack of space between exit and entrance ramps. I think if you had 2 "express lanes" and 2 aux c-d lanes EB from Bessie Coleman to Cumberland, that would help a ton.
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Joe The Dragon

Quote from: hobsini2 on August 25, 2016, 11:48:24 AM
Actually, 190 itself as a 2 lanes each way with an aux exit lane works fine. Traffic does not back up on that often. The big issue is the lack of space between exit and entrance ramps. I think if you had 2 "express lanes" and 2 aux c-d lanes EB from Bessie Coleman to Cumberland, that would help a ton.

It needs some flyovers.

ET21

Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 20, 2016, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 20, 2016, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 11, 2016, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 10, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 10, 2016, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 10, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Why did IDOT remove the EB I-190 to NB Mannheim Rd ramp?

Construction? Plus with the new interchange allowing access to Balmoral, it's probably best to eliminate that exit if you can access it earlier with better flow

I think only SB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral.

Actually NB Mannheim can be accessed from Balmoral with the new construction.

I wonder if one of the reasons for doing the huge Balmoral interchange with Mannheim was to eliminate some of the more dangerous ramps on I-190 while providing access from the airport to the entertainment district/hotels in Rosemont. I personally hate using WB 190 to NB US-12/45 ramp because of it's sudden turn and routing.

Edit: Post 1000!!!  :) :) :)

The biggest problem on I-190 is the close proximity of the ramps to one another, from Bessie Coleman Dr east to I-294.  There's an onramp, and in two more second, there's the offramp you needed!  wahp wahp.   I'd be heavily in favor of removing some of the ramps joining I-190 and Mannheim.  Or at least reconfiguring some of that mess, especially the ramps in the northeast quadrant that are scrunched because of the railroad.

The next thing that needs to be addressed on I-190 EB is the NB Mannheim to EB 190 ramp and the EB 190 to SB 294 ramp. The big issue there is no room for a true merge between those ramps. And people on the NB Mannheim to EB 190 ramp NEVER yield despite there being a Yield sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9813487,-87.8766412,3a,75y,30.94h,89.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgd1T426aA4du_Aedrjm4kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

What about the rewidening? of I-190? The Cumberland Flyover / I-90 winding plans show an 3 lane I-190.

Maybe east of Mannheim or River Road. As a road itself, the capacity for the mainline is adequate, the ramps/aux lanes are the main problems.
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

ChiMilNet

I found this article regarding an update on the IKE Rebuild. It looks like Oak Park and IDOT have finally come to some sort of agreement. If even there is a hold off on widening the expressway itself, re-configuring the left hand exits in Oak Park should go a long way in helping improve traffic flow.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/oak-park/news/ct-oak-idot-eisenhower-tl-0811-20160804-story.html

QuoteA letter outlining cost responsibilities, maintenance and future considerations related to the proposed rebuilding and widening of Interstate 290 has been approved by the village of Oak Park and the Illinois Department of Transportation.

During the Aug. 1 village board meeting, trustees unanimously approved the agreement with IDOT by a 6-0 vote. Trustee Andrea Ott was absent.

hobsini2

Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 27, 2016, 07:42:51 PM
I found this article regarding an update on the IKE Rebuild. It looks like Oak Park and IDOT have finally come to some sort of agreement. If even there is a hold off on widening the expressway itself, re-configuring the left hand exits in Oak Park should go a long way in helping improve traffic flow.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/oak-park/news/ct-oak-idot-eisenhower-tl-0811-20160804-story.html

QuoteA letter outlining cost responsibilities, maintenance and future considerations related to the proposed rebuilding and widening of Interstate 290 has been approved by the village of Oak Park and the Illinois Department of Transportation.

During the Aug. 1 village board meeting, trustees unanimously approved the agreement with IDOT by a 6-0 vote. Trustee Andrea Ott was absent.
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inkyatari

I  had reason to go to West Dundee yesterday from my home in Morris, and so I took rt. 47 up to rt 72 and in.

On the way up, I noticed the damndest thing..  A brand new roundabaout was installed on 47 at Burlington rd.  What made this odd was that I don't recall seeing this in March, the last time I was through the area, and why here? It's in the middle of f-ing nowhere! Anybody have the scoop on this?
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quickshade

Quote from: inkyatari on August 29, 2016, 09:09:27 AM
I  had reason to go to West Dundee yesterday from my home in Morris, and so I took rt. 47 up to rt 72 and in.

On the way up, I noticed the damndest thing..  A brand new roundabaout was installed on 47 at Burlington rd.  What made this odd was that I don't recall seeing this in March, the last time I was through the area, and why here? It's in the middle of f-ing nowhere! Anybody have the scoop on this?

Construction started in April and they must have finished already (although I don't see any updated information on the Kane County website about it being finished. here are two links:

http://www.co.kane.il.us/dot/constProjects/burlingtonAt47.aspx

^^ That describes the project and improvements and why they are doing them.

http://kanecountyconnects.com/2016/04/roundabout-construction-begins-april-4-at-burlington-road-and-route-47/

^^ Has the start date of April which explains why you didn't see it last time you were driving the area.

inkyatari

Still seems kind of random to me, but then again, I'm not a highway designer.
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silverback1065

Quote from: inkyatari on August 29, 2016, 03:52:42 PM
Still seems kind of random to me, but then again, I'm not a highway designer.

It's probably a safety fix.  Likely a high rate of right angle crashes, so a signal wouldn't fix that, but a roundabout would.  they are doing the same in indiana at similar intersection.

ET21

They recently put in a round-a-bout on Dugan Road just south of US-30, which includes a crossroad and railroad tracks. It helped out immensely with rush hour and general flow and after US-30 finished it's improvements.

Maybe it's Kane Counties new road design fetish  :bigass:
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

inkyatari

Quote from: quickshade on August 29, 2016, 11:07:57 AM

http://kanecountyconnects.com/2016/04/roundabout-construction-begins-april-4-at-burlington-road-and-route-47/

^^ Has the start date of April which explains why you didn't see it last time you were driving the area.

Thinking about it, that also explains the lack of traffic, as Burlington Road is still closed off at the roundabout.

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quickshade

I'm all for more roundabouts, they work very well and I wish more counties would take them seriously.

The Ghostbuster

If you want roundabouts, quickshade, come to Wisconsin. They have truckloads of them. And take a few of them with you on your way home.

quickshade

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 30, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
If you want roundabouts, quickshade, come to Wisconsin. They have truckloads of them. And take a few of them with you on your way home.

Gladly, there are a few intersection out west in McHenry county that could use it. However I wouldn't go as overboard as Wisconsin did.  :-D

dvferyance

Quote from: quickshade on August 30, 2016, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 30, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
If you want roundabouts, quickshade, come to Wisconsin. They have truckloads of them. And take a few of them with you on your way home.

Gladly, there are a few intersection out west in McHenry county that could use it. However I wouldn't go as overboard as Wisconsin did.  :-D
There is no question Wisconsin has gone way overboard. I was in Wales the other day the roundabout at US 18 and WI 83 is going to be another problematic roundabout just like the ones in New Berlin are.

paulthemapguy

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 30, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
If you want roundabouts, quickshade, come to Wisconsin. They have truckloads of them. And take a few of them with you on your way home.

Good lord.  I think I was at I-94 and WI-65 last year when I saw a pair of roundabouts joining the state road to the exit ramps.  These things do nothing but increase the danger for the thru traffic on the state road.  I know!  Let's put two large obstacles in the middle of a 55 mph surface road!!  Yes I agree with the idea that WisDOT is going "overboard" heh
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quickshade

I think roundabouts get a bad rap. I think if they are done right traffic flows so much better. especial in areas where the side roads have enough traffic to warrant a stop sign but not a traffic signal. Hopefully Illinois uses them a bit more often.



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