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[mgk920]

Representatives from Jackson, Randolph, Perry, and Monroe Counties want a 4-lane route from Murphysboro to Saint Louis.

http://countyjournal.org/coalition-aiming-to-bring-fourlane-connection-between-the-area-and-st-lou-p1450-177.htm#.WTA5uJxPeM4.facebook

Is this an unbuilt, originally proposed section of I-24?

Mike

[quickshade]

Representatives from Jackson, Randolph, Perry, and Monroe Counties want a 4-lane route from Murphysboro to Saint Louis.

http://countyjournal.org/coalition-aiming-to-bring-fourlane-connection-between-the-area-and-st-lou-p1450-177.htm#.WTA5uJxPeM4.facebook

Is this an unbuilt, originally proposed section of I-24?

Mike

Tell them to get a state budget and increased road funding, then we can talk about IDOT wish lists. Or did they skip the part where the state has an 8 year backlog of projects??

[mgk920]

Representatives from Jackson, Randolph, Perry, and Monroe Counties want a 4-lane route from Murphysboro to Saint Louis.

http://countyjournal.org/coalition-aiming-to-bring-fourlane-connection-between-the-area-and-st-lou-p1450-177.htm#.WTA5uJxPeM4.facebook

Is this an unbuilt, originally proposed section of I-24?

Mike

Tell them to get a state budget and increased road funding, then we can talk about IDOT wish lists. Or did they skip the part where the state has an 8 year backlog of projects??

Also, a couple of days ago, Moodys and S&P both downgraded the State of Illinois' bond rating to one step above 'junk'.  IIRC, this is the lowest ever for a USA state.



Mike

[I-39]

Representatives from Jackson, Randolph, Perry, and Monroe Counties want a 4-lane route from Murphysboro to Saint Louis.

http://countyjournal.org/coalition-aiming-to-bring-fourlane-connection-between-the-area-and-st-lou-p1450-177.htm#.WTA5uJxPeM4.facebook

Is this an unbuilt, originally proposed section of I-24?

Mike

Tell them to get a state budget and increased road funding, then we can talk about IDOT wish lists. Or did they skip the part where the state has an 8 year backlog of projects??

I think 8 years is generous, it's more like 15.......

[Revive 755]

Is this an unbuilt, originally proposed section of I-24?

Mike

While it probably would have gotten designated as part of I-24 had it been built, it seems this corridor was just originally proposed as a supplemental freeway.  See http://www.midwestroads.com/illinois/il%20supp%20fwy.pdf

[ilpt4u]

Representatives from Jackson, Randolph, Perry, and Monroe Counties want a 4-lane route from Murphysboro to Saint Louis.

http://countyjournal.org/coalition-aiming-to-bring-fourlane-connection-between-the-area-and-st-lou-p1450-177.htm#.WTA5uJxPeM4.facebook

Posting from Murphysboro as we speak, this would be beneficial to link the Carbondale/Marion area much better and more directly to STL. IL-127 already serves this purpose, but a 4 lane divided hwy, with a Pinckneyville and Nashville bypass, in addition to Grade Separation for the train route in Pinckneyville, would help. Current IL-127 is mostly 2-lane until you approach Murphysboro, where it grows to 4 Lanes, joins IL-13, and IL-13 is at least 4 lane thru Murphysboro and Carbondale over to Marion  (where it has a Southern IL SPUI with I-57)

Waiting for a long train on IL-127 in Pinckneyville is a major PITA, as there is no good way around it for miles

If you threw in Bypasses of the west side of Marion and of Carbondale, this could be an I-24 extension/completion, if built full freeway. And that would take truck traffic off I-57 between I-24 and I-64

Being picky, and I am a relative new comer to posting @ aaroads, but since this is a Southern IL proposal, is this not a better fit for the "Ohio Valley" board?

[Revive 755]

The ramp from southbound I-39 to westbound I-88 is currently closed for what appears to be a complete rebuild from the subgrade and up.  As part of the detour signage there is one black on orange sign with a curly arrow that depicts the detour via three of the loop ramps at that interchange.

[JREwing78]

The ramp from southbound I-39 to westbound I-88 is currently closed for what appears to be a complete rebuild from the subgrade and up.  As part of the detour signage there is one black on orange sign with a curly arrow that depicts the detour via three of the loop ramps at that interchange.

I wonder how often one of those ramps will get closed for a semi that couldn't keep itself on its wheels...

[ET21]

The ramp from southbound I-39 to westbound I-88 is currently closed for what appears to be a complete rebuild from the subgrade and up.  As part of the detour signage there is one black on orange sign with a curly arrow that depicts the detour via three of the loop ramps at that interchange.

Been like that for much of the Spring. I think all the ramps will be getting this treatment over time

[Brandon]

The ramp from southbound I-39 to westbound I-88 is currently closed for what appears to be a complete rebuild from the subgrade and up.  As part of the detour signage there is one black on orange sign with a curly arrow that depicts the detour via three of the loop ramps at that interchange.

Been like that for much of the Spring. I think all the ramps will be getting this treatment over time

I'm not so sure.  They've only removed the portion of the curve into I-88.  The rest of the ramp is has merely been repaved.  I'm guessing that this section has an issue with the base.

[ET21]

The ramp from southbound I-39 to westbound I-88 is currently closed for what appears to be a complete rebuild from the subgrade and up.  As part of the detour signage there is one black on orange sign with a curly arrow that depicts the detour via three of the loop ramps at that interchange.

Been like that for much of the Spring. I think all the ramps will be getting this treatment over time

I'm not so sure.  They've only removed the portion of the curve into I-88.  The rest of the ramp is has merely been repaved.  I'm guessing that this section has an issue with the base.

They redid I-39 over the past 2 summers, so I just assumed they were doing all the ramps as part of that project

[hobsini2]

New IDOT 2018-2023 program is posted at their website.

http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Transportation-System/Reports/OP&P/HIP/2018-2023/2018-23%20MYP%20Book.pdf

How many of these projects are actually going to get done? It seems there has been a lot of the same projects on here for the last few years and they keep getting pushed back. Things like the I-55/72 widening and the I-57/74 interchange reconstruction need to happen now.

As long as we lack a budget (thanks Madigan!), IDOT won't do as much.

And Brucey being just as stubborn. Let's be real now. They both are acting like bastards.

[I-39]

New IDOT 2018-2023 program is posted at their website.

http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Transportation-System/Reports/OP&P/HIP/2018-2023/2018-23%20MYP%20Book.pdf

How many of these projects are actually going to get done? It seems there has been a lot of the same projects on here for the last few years and they keep getting pushed back. Things like the I-55/72 widening and the I-57/74 interchange reconstruction need to happen now.

As long as we lack a budget (thanks Madigan!), IDOT won't do as much.

And Brucey being just as stubborn. Let's be real now. They both are acting like bastards.

Well, Brucey is not just rolling over and giving Madigan whatever he wants like every other Governor (from both sides) did before. He is actually trying to implement some fundamental reforms (term limits, redistricting reform, etc) first, but Madigan doesn't want that because he wants to hold on to power forever.

Both parties are responsible for the mess Illinois is in, so it's high time for someone to stand up and try to reform things. Right now, the only person whom I see who is attempting to fix the real issues is Brucey...........

[inkyatari]

Just got done with riding Bike MS : Tour De Farms over the weekend, and something that always perplexed me regarding the DeKalb area is, how come I-88 has an exit at Annie Glidden road, Peace Road, but not route 23? I understand Annie Glidden road, as that's a direct route to Northern Illinois University, but Route 23 is a direct route to downtown DeKalb.

[paulthemapguy]

New IDOT 2018-2023 program is posted at their website.

http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Transportation-System/Reports/OP&P/HIP/2018-2023/2018-23%20MYP%20Book.pdf

How many of these projects are actually going to get done? It seems there has been a lot of the same projects on here for the last few years and they keep getting pushed back. Things like the I-55/72 widening and the I-57/74 interchange reconstruction need to happen now.

As long as we lack a budget (thanks Madigan!), IDOT won't do as much.

And Brucey being just as stubborn. Let's be real now. They both are acting like bastards.

Well, Brucey is not just rolling over and giving Madigan whatever he wants like every other Governor (from both sides) did before. He is actually trying to implement some fundamental reforms (term limits, redistricting reform, etc) first, but Madigan doesn't want that because he wants to hold on to power forever.

Both parties are responsible for the mess Illinois is in, so it's high time for someone to stand up and try to reform things. Right now, the only person whom I see who is attempting to fix the real issues is Brucey...........

During every state election in the foreseeable future, my intent is to vote out every incumbent candidate until we have a state again.

[ET21]

Just got done with riding Bike MS : Tour De Farms over the weekend, and something that always perplexed me regarding the DeKalb area is, how come I-88 has an exit at Annie Glidden road, Peace Road, but not route 23? I understand Annie Glidden road, as that's a direct route to Northern Illinois University, but Route 23 is a direct route to downtown DeKalb.

When you have Peace and Annie the same distance apart from 23, there really isn't a point. Just use Fairview to access it

[I-39]

New IDOT 2018-2023 program is posted at their website.

http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Transportation-System/Reports/OP&P/HIP/2018-2023/2018-23%20MYP%20Book.pdf

How many of these projects are actually going to get done? It seems there has been a lot of the same projects on here for the last few years and they keep getting pushed back. Things like the I-55/72 widening and the I-57/74 interchange reconstruction need to happen now.

As long as we lack a budget (thanks Madigan!), IDOT won't do as much.

And Brucey being just as stubborn. Let's be real now. They both are acting like bastards.

Well, Brucey is not just rolling over and giving Madigan whatever he wants like every other Governor (from both sides) did before. He is actually trying to implement some fundamental reforms (term limits, redistricting reform, etc) first, but Madigan doesn't want that because he wants to hold on to power forever.

Both parties are responsible for the mess Illinois is in, so it's high time for someone to stand up and try to reform things. Right now, the only person whom I see who is attempting to fix the real issues is Brucey...........

During every state election in the foreseeable future, my intent is to vote out every incumbent candidate until we have a state again.

If I still lived in Illinois, I'd do the same. Here in Tennessee, things are the opposite. We actually have a booming economy (well, at least in the Nashville/Middle Tennessee area). It was hard to leave my home state, but things just got too bad to stay.

[I-39]

Just got done with riding Bike MS : Tour De Farms over the weekend, and something that always perplexed me regarding the DeKalb area is, how come I-88 has an exit at Annie Glidden road, Peace Road, but not route 23? I understand Annie Glidden road, as that's a direct route to Northern Illinois University, but Route 23 is a direct route to downtown DeKalb.

When you have Peace and Annie the same distance apart from 23, there really isn't a point. Just use Fairview to access it

^ This

Additionally, there really isn't any room with the Dekalb Oasis to the east.

[inkyatari]

Just got done with riding Bike MS : Tour De Farms over the weekend, and something that always perplexed me regarding the DeKalb area is, how come I-88 has an exit at Annie Glidden road, Peace Road, but not route 23? I understand Annie Glidden road, as that's a direct route to Northern Illinois University, but Route 23 is a direct route to downtown DeKalb.

When you have Peace and Annie the same distance apart from 23, there really isn't a point. Just use Fairview to access it

^ This

Additionally, there really isn't any room with the Dekalb Oasis to the east.

Just seems to me that when they were planning the tollway through there that the route that connects two larger areas, in this case Ottawa and DeKalb, would have taken priority over two roads that end either at or near the tollway.

[Revive 755]

^ At least to the north of I-88 Peace Road is the better route for through traffic since it bypasses both downtown DeKalb and downtown Sycamore and is grade separated with the busy Union Pacific main line.

I'm going to wildly speculate that IL 23 did not get an interchange because DeKalb wanted two interchanges instead of one, or there was some plan that did not come to be that had IL 23 being rerouted to use Peace Road.

[ilpt4u]

If memory serves, Peace Road was originally either only a Half Interchange, and/or it was no Interchange and added later?

Annie Glidden may have been the only DeKalb exit for a time

That said, why does NIU get its own Interstate exit? I guess ISU, UIUC, and UIC have them too...but the IL Interstates only kinda got close to EIU and SIU, while WIU is out there in the Interstate-less haven of West/Central IL (tho it does have the "created" IL/MO-110 CKC Expressway, even if the Macomb bypass isn't in action just yet)

[GeekJedi]

If memory serves, Peace Road was originally either only a Half Interchange, and/or it was no Interchange and added later?

Annie Glidden may have been the only DeKalb exit for a time

That said, why does NIU get its own Interstate exit? I guess ISU, UIUC, and UIC have them too...but the IL Interstates only kinda got close to EIU and SIU, while WIU is out there in the Interstate-less haven of West/Central IL (tho it does have the "created" IL/MO-110 KCK Expressway, even if the Macomb bypass isn't in action just yet)

You are correct. I lived in Dekalb in the mid 90's and Peace Rd. was an EB exit and WB entrance only. I believe the full interchange came to be after there was talk about building a mall near Peace and Fairview Roads, if I remember right.

[ilpt4u]

You are correct. I lived in Dekalb in the mid 90's and Peace Rd. was an EB exit and WB entrance only. I believe the full interchange came to be after there was talk about building a mall near Peace and Fairview Roads, if I remember right.

EB Exit/WB Entrance would be movements facing the DeKalb toll plaza, which used to be in the middle of the Annie Glidden Interchange (it has since moved west, between DeKalb and I-39)

That way, the Tollway didn't have to put toll collection facilities at the exit. But automated coin buckets, and then I-Pass, makes it easier to add toll collection at exits these days

[ET21]

If memory serves, Peace Road was originally either only a Half Interchange, and/or it was no Interchange and added later?

Annie Glidden may have been the only DeKalb exit for a time

That said, why does NIU get its own Interstate exit? I guess ISU, UIUC, and UIC have them too...but the IL Interstates only kinda got close to EIU and SIU, while WIU is out there in the Interstate-less haven of West/Central IL (tho it does have the "created" IL/MO-110 KCK Expressway, even if the Macomb bypass isn't in action just yet)

That mall plan ended up turning into a major trucking port. The southeast side of DeKalb is big warehouses and trucking depots for Nestle, 3M, and UPS. The area is called Park 88

You are correct. I lived in Dekalb in the mid 90's and Peace Rd. was an EB exit and WB entrance only. I believe the full interchange came to be after there was talk about building a mall near Peace and Fairview Roads, if I remember right.

[Revive 755]

You are correct. I lived in Dekalb in the mid 90's and Peace Rd. was an EB exit and WB entrance only. I believe the full interchange came to be after there was talk about building a mall near Peace and Fairview Roads, if I remember right.

Older aerial imagery of the Peace Road interchange is it as a half diamond with ramps to/from the east, with the loops being added later for access to/from the west.