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3DI’s that shouldn’t have an interstate designation?

Started by Lyon Wonder, February 08, 2015, 09:13:51 PM

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NE2

Quote from: Molandfreak on March 01, 2015, 07:36:26 PM
I-190: I-90✈
WIS 119: I-94✈

This way, there won't be a limit to the amount of airport spurs a state can have. :D
Nah, make them all I-980.
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TheCatalyst31

Quote from: TEG24601 on March 01, 2015, 11:50:45 AM
I would add I-110 in LA.  They have half-assed the roadway by making it both I-110 and CA-110, fix you stuff then do one or the other, using both is dumb.  If it is adequate as a State Route, make the whole thing a state route.

Louisiana has an I-110, so that maaaybe isn't the best way to describe the one in CA.  :pan: And that situation actually makes a lot of sense; the Harbor Freeway has 2-3x the traffic of the Arroyo Seco Parkway, and the latter isn't at Interstate standards and won't be anytime soon (unless you believe the land of No 710 will approve a major highway project).

cpzilliacus

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cpzilliacus

Quote from: sbeaver44 on February 15, 2015, 05:57:46 PM
I-370 in Maryland (although now a little more important with the completion of MD 200) is a glorified connector to a Metro station, although I do appreciate its function.

I-370 should be decommissioned and its length signed as Md. 200. 

Even better, transfer maintenance responsibility for I-370 and unsigned Md. 200A (the old part of I-370 from the site of the Md. 200 interchange to the Shady Grove rail station) from the Maryland State Highway Administration to the Maryland Transportation Authority.
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TheStranger

Quote from: TEG24601 on March 01, 2015, 11:50:45 AM

I would add I-110 in LA.  They have half-assed the roadway by making it both I-110 and CA-110, fix you stuff then do one or the other, using both is dumb.  If it is adequate as a State Route, make the whole thing a state route.

110 north of 101 (the Arroyo Seco Parkway) is a historic route in a tight corridor where upgrading to interstate standards would be extremely disruptive.

A freeway where one portion is a state route and one is an Interstate is not uncommon in California and like 110 generally was created in the 1980s (880/17, 980/24). 
Chris Sampang

cpzilliacus

Quote from: TheStranger on March 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on March 01, 2015, 11:50:45 AM

I would add I-110 in LA.  They have half-assed the roadway by making it both I-110 and CA-110, fix you stuff then do one or the other, using both is dumb.  If it is adequate as a State Route, make the whole thing a state route.

110 north of 101 (the Arroyo Seco Parkway) is a historic route in a tight corridor where upgrading to interstate standards would be extremely disruptive.

A freeway where one portion is a state route and one is an Interstate is not uncommon in California and like 110 generally was created in the 1980s (880/17, 980/24).

I have no problem with the corridor being signed as Ca. 110 north of downtown Los Angeles and I-110 south of there, though if we go back in time far enough, it was all posted as Ca. 11.

Ca. 110 is a "dead end" freeway parkway that only indirectly connects to I-210.

I-110 links downtown L.A. with I-105, I-405 and the Port of Los Angeles and thus has regional and even national importance (and yes, I know that many of the trucks headed east from the Ports of L.A. and Long Beach toward I-10, I-15 and I-40 prefer I-710).
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TheStranger

Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 02, 2015, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on March 02, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on March 01, 2015, 11:50:45 AM

I would add I-110 in LA.  They have half-assed the roadway by making it both I-110 and CA-110, fix you stuff then do one or the other, using both is dumb.  If it is adequate as a State Route, make the whole thing a state route.

110 north of 101 (the Arroyo Seco Parkway) is a historic route in a tight corridor where upgrading to interstate standards would be extremely disruptive.

A freeway where one portion is a state route and one is an Interstate is not uncommon in California and like 110 generally was created in the 1980s (880/17, 980/24).

I have no problem with the corridor being signed as Ca. 110 north of downtown Los Angeles and I-110 south of there, though if we go back in time far enough, it was all posted as Ca. 11.

Even further back, the I-110/Harbor Freeway portion was US 6 and the Route 110/Arroyo Seco Parkway portion was US 66 (with 6 overlapping the latter to Avenue 26).  As a single-designation route from north to south, it only existed as such from 1964-1981.
Chris Sampang

roadman65

IMO, basically any interstate less than a mile long that has no identity of its own.

It was spoken on this forum before but some interstates like I-175 and I-375 are just glorified exit ramps for I-275.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

kkt

Quote from: roadman65 on March 02, 2015, 01:37:47 PM
IMO, basically any interstate less than a mile long that has no identity of its own.

It was spoken on this forum before but some interstates like I-175 and I-375 are just glorified exit ramps for I-275.

It comes down to what the interstate shield is supposed to mean.  If interstate funding paid for its construction, some people think there ought to be a sign saying so.

yakra

#134
Quote from: kphoger on February 09, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
My nomination:  H*.*
They should say "intrastate"  at the top of the shield. :P

Quote from: kkt on February 09, 2015, 01:34:03 PM
So that would be just I-H-201, right?  The others being one-digit?
I-H2: Not to be confused with IH 2! ;)

Quote from: TEG24601 on March 01, 2015, 11:50:45 AM
Is there something wrong with a J-Shaped Route?
No. Nothing at all.

Quote from: jhuntin1 on February 28, 2015, 08:18:47 PM
I know I'm late jumping in here, but vtk's suggestion was pretty much how they were originally signed along with being signed I-465. INDOT changed it to prevent an intersection of 3 I-465s in the northwest corner.
TX Loop 224 is designated, but a quick check of GMSV suggests, not signed, that way. The I-865-equivalent "tail" is just signed as US59.
TX Loop 323's "tail" is also signed as TO Loop 323, and TO US271/TX155. That's no fun, is it.

Quote from: NE2 on March 01, 2015, 08:01:45 PM
Nah, make them all I-980.
AUGH! MY EYES! I cannot unsee that... I could have remained blissfully ignorant. No thanks to you...
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

I94RoadRunner

#135
How about I-585 in SC .....? I just clinched this "interstate" 3 days ago road tripping back from Florida and it is the most substandard interstate I have seen aside from I-180 in Wyoming. Not to mention that it was orphaned by its parent when the bypass of I-85 in Spartanburg got built .....
Chris Kalina

“The easiest solution to fixing the I-238 problem is to redefine I-580 as I-38

OracleUsr

Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.
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I94RoadRunner

Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.
Chris Kalina

“The easiest solution to fixing the I-238 problem is to redefine I-580 as I-38

rickmastfan67

#138
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.

The signs on I-85 Business now say it does I-585 goes North of it.
http://goo.gl/maps/RZPs0

I94RoadRunner

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 26, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.

The signs on I-85 Business now say it does I-585 goes North of it.
http://goo.gl/maps/RZPs0

It may, however I just drove it last Saturday and there were no reassurance shields north of B.L. I-85. I also do not recall an end shield in either direction .....
Chris Kalina

“The easiest solution to fixing the I-238 problem is to redefine I-580 as I-38

NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

I94RoadRunner

Quote from: NE2 on March 27, 2015, 07:57:13 PM
This one-mile sign for I-85 makes it clear that they're planning to rebuild the interchange.

Yep, it is on the books SPUI. Any idea what configuration is planned there .....? I have my idea which I will post on another thread .....
Chris Kalina

“The easiest solution to fixing the I-238 problem is to redefine I-580 as I-38

rickmastfan67

Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 27, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 26, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.

The signs on I-85 Business now say it does I-585 goes North of it.
http://goo.gl/maps/RZPs0

It may, however I just drove it last Saturday and there were no reassurance shields north of B.L. I-85. I also do not recall an end shield in either direction .....

There is on the ramps at least since Oct. '12.
http://goo.gl/maps/3JcxL

I94RoadRunner

Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 27, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 26, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.

The signs on I-85 Business now say it does I-585 goes North of it.
http://goo.gl/maps/RZPs0

It may, however I just drove it last Saturday and there were no reassurance shields north of B.L. I-85. I also do not recall an end shield in either direction .....
Interesting. There were no reassurance shields that I remember ....
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2015, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 27, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 26, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.

The signs on I-85 Business now say it does I-585 goes North of it.
http://goo.gl/maps/RZPs0

It may, however I just drove it last Saturday and there were no reassurance shields north of B.L. I-85. I also do not recall an end shield in either direction .....

There is on the ramps at least since Oct. '12.
http://goo.gl/maps/3JcxL
Looks like this must be southbound. I went northbound B.L. I-85 and looped back on I-85 to US 176 'To I-585'.

I bet this is due to the new ramp that was recently rebuilt for B.L. I-85 south to northbound US 176 and I guess I-585 according to this photo .....
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 28, 2015, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 27, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on March 26, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: I94RoadRunner on March 24, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on March 23, 2015, 10:42:25 PM
Actually, i think I-585 is still signed to its parent route, or a block short.

Regardless it's just US 176/SC 9 as a freeway.

I-585 starts at Business loop 85 and goes into Spartanburg as a VERY substandard freeway. I-585 currently ends about 3 miles south of I-85 although there are some long range plans to upgrade the last mile of the US 176 freeway needed to remove the traffic signals.

The section of I-585 that is signed is definitely in serious need of an upgrade if it is supposed to be an interstate.

The signs on I-85 Business now say it does I-585 goes North of it.
http://goo.gl/maps/RZPs0

It may, however I just drove it last Saturday and there were no reassurance shields north of B.L. I-85. I also do not recall an end shield in either direction .....

There is on the ramps at least since Oct. '12.
http://goo.gl/maps/3JcxL
I went northbound and there was not an exit for BL I-85 north to northbound US 176/I-585 so had no idea what the southbound signs were showing. I will bet that I-585 being extended north had something to do with the new BL I-85 south to US 176 ramp being rebuilt .....?
Chris Kalina

“The easiest solution to fixing the I-238 problem is to redefine I-580 as I-38



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