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agentsteel53

Quote from: roadman65 on April 05, 2013, 07:19:40 AM

Anyway, its interesting because no one else, that I have seen, has done something exactly like this.

definitely a standard* in the 20s and 30s.  the ONE WAY arrow had many purposes before (IIRC) the 1935 MUTCD clamped down on it.

* or, more precisely, a common behavior found in the absence of a standard
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agentsteel53

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Quote from: vtk on April 05, 2013, 08:43:08 AM
Yet the MUTCD does talk about treatment of stop-controlled intersections of parking lot aisles and associated service roads which are not on the public ROW.

parking lot aisles need stop* signs, badly.  people seem to drive their most poorly in parking lots.  the concept of "priority to the right" at an uncontrolled intersection is so virtually unknown that it is best treated as a nonexistent law.  (why yes, it is on the books in the US!)  in the absence of traffic control devices, priority devolves to "priority to whoever is moving faster on what seems to be a more important road".

* technically, they need yield signs, but the average Black Friday corporate slave yields to no one.
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vdeane

Quote from: roadman65 on April 05, 2013, 07:19:40 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/8621916714/in/photostream

This is a misuse of a standard one way sign inside a shopping center near Downtown Orlando.  Apparently the MUTCD does not have authority over private property, so any developer can use whatever sign he or she chooses.

Anyway, its interesting because no one else, that I have seen, has done something exactly like this.
One-ways are signed this way everywhere and nowhere in Alanland.
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empirestate

Quote from: roadman65 on April 05, 2013, 07:19:40 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/8621916714/in/photostream

This is a misuse of a standard one way sign inside a shopping center near Downtown Orlando.  Apparently the MUTCD does not have authority over private property, so any developer can use whatever sign he or she chooses.

Anyway, its interesting because no one else, that I have seen, has done something exactly like this.

Ah, so if I'm turning left I'd keep to the left-hand side of the roadway, turning into the closest lane available to traffic. Which, since it's a one-way road heading away from the intersection, would be against the left curb. :-)

kphoger

Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 05, 2013, 09:27:51 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 05, 2013, 07:19:40 AM

Anyway, its interesting because no one else, that I have seen, has done something exactly like this.

definitely a standard* in the 20s and 30s.  the ONE WAY arrow had many purposes before (IIRC) the 1935 MUTCD clamped down on it.

* or, more precisely, a common behavior found in the absence of a standard


I believe I've seen similar signage in México, but I can't remember for absolute certain.  At an intersection where one cannot continue straight but can turn in either direction, I believe common practice is to post a black right arrow, a black left arrow, and a red straight-ahead arrow.  And a faint bell is ringing in the back of my mind that sometimes the red straight-ahead arrow is ommitted.  I really wish I had more certainty about this (especially since I've found myself going the wrong way on a Mexican street more than a couple of times).
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vdeane

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kkt

Quote from: vdeane on April 06, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
Here's a similar one in Maine: http://goo.gl/maps/YRZvO

I feel an overwhelming temptation to go to Maine, find that intersection, and change the paint on one of the "one way" signs to say "another way".

djsinco

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Quote from: kkt on April 06, 2013, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 06, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
Here's a similar one in Maine: http://goo.gl/maps/YRZvO

FTFY. I feel an overwhelming temptation to go to Maine, find that intersection, and eat a mess of lobster! change the paint on one of the "one way" signs to say "another way".
3 million miles and counting

kphoger

Quote from: djsinco on April 06, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 06, 2013, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 06, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
Here's a similar one in Maine: http://goo.gl/maps/YRZvO

FTFY. I feel an overwhelming temptation to go to Maine, find that intersection, and eat a mess of lobster! and change the paint on one of the "one way" signs to say "another lobster".
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: kphoger on April 08, 2013, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: djsinco on April 06, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 06, 2013, 07:09:49 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 06, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
Here's a similar one in Maine: http://goo.gl/maps/YRZvO

FTFY. I feel an overwhelming temptation to go to Maine, find that intersection, and eat a mess of lobster! and change the paint on one of the "one way" signs to say "another lobster".


FTFY. I feel an overwhelming temptation to go to Maine, find that intersection, and repost the One Way signs on the opposite posts.

Big John

I would want to replace it with this (except with the proper font)


1995hoo

That makes me remember this sign near Peggy's Cove (it's completely accurate, you can get to Halifax either way):

"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Alps

Quote from: vdeane on April 06, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
Here's a similar one in Maine: http://goo.gl/maps/YRZvO
I think in that case the ONE WAY signs were supposed to be rotated at 90 degrees so that Bayview traffic knew not to turn there.
On the topic of one-way signs, US 52 in Ohio down by the Ashland KY road meet has some tapered one-way arrows, old-style in a sense but definitely not to any former spec: http://goo.gl/maps/cJn1s

vtk

Quote from: Steve on April 08, 2013, 07:36:29 PM
tapered one-way arrows, old-style in a sense but definitely not to any former spec: http://goo.gl/maps/cJn1s

I'm sure I've seen more of those around.  West Jefferson comes to mind.  Might have been an Ohio-specific standard at one time, or maybe just a prolific fabricator's off-spec pattern.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

agentsteel53

Quote from: vtk on April 09, 2013, 12:20:23 AMMight have been an Ohio-specific standard at one time, or maybe just a prolific fabricator's off-spec pattern.

never seen it as an Ohio standard, but it does bring to mind the flared arrows used on older Ohio guide signs and supplementary signs.



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vtk

A few weeks ago, I realized that every offramp at every interchange (not with another freeway) along I-71 from Columbus to Mansfield has a traffic light at the end.  Compare to I-71 south of Columbus, with almost no signals at interchanges, or rural I-70, with traffic signals at less than half of the interchanges.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

roadman65

I think that it is very interesting how the GSV car always manages to never get a caption of many road signs.  You either see it from a distance, then you go past it when moving, but it does not stop in between.

Then you have TX Highway 44 Westbound at US 77 in Robstown, Texas where you come up to the intersection with the shield assembly of SH 44 and US 77 and the GSV moves to across the street.  If I did not know better, I would say GSV does not want us to use them to read road signs, even though in reality it is not.

Also, good luck in trying to read the Ranch-to-Market Road signs in many places along I-20 in Western Texas.  Even the shield assemblies at the end of the service roads (most Texas interstate ramps lead to the frontage road rather than the actual road) you cannot even get GSV to be at a point to read the RANCH ROAD wording with just barely  even seeing the route number on the shields.
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vdeane

Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
I think that it is very interesting how the GSV car always manages to never get a caption of many road signs.  You either see it from a distance, then you go past it when moving, but it does not stop in between.
Not really surprising given how grainy the older imagery is.  On the newer imagery, you can use the "zoom in" feature (useless on older imagery) to read the signs.
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roadman65

Quote from: vdeane on May 06, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
I think that it is very interesting how the GSV car always manages to never get a caption of many road signs.  You either see it from a distance, then you go past it when moving, but it does not stop in between.
Not really surprising given how grainy the older imagery is.  On the newer imagery, you can use the "zoom in" feature (useless on older imagery) to read the signs.
You know, I have noticed that in one particular town along US 281 way north of San Antonio, I did zoom in to a Ranch Road sign where you can get crystal clear imagery like you said.  However, still have a lot of old though.  I am still waiting for the old traffic circle in my home town in New Jersey to be updated to its new configuration considering that particular intersection has been modified several years ago.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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