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roadwaywiz95:
For this upcoming weekend's Webinar presentation, we'll be taking a look at the freeway & highway system of the Hawaiian island of Oahu, including the city of Honolulu and its island suburbs. During the Winter of 2021-22, the team at Gribblenation.org constructed a complete blog series on Oahu's state highway system and documented the island's network of major roadways in a comprehensive manner. This Webinar is intended to serve as a "capstone" for the efforts of the Gribblenation staff in recent weeks/months as we recap everything the island has to offer from a roads perspective (and just a little bit more!).

Coverage will begin on Saturday (4/30) at 6 PM ET and will feature live contributions from members of this forum, including members of the Gribblenation.org team; we hope to see you there!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORtJ1ZQuh00

SSOWorld:

--- Quote from: Alps on March 04, 2021, 08:22:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: gonealookin on March 04, 2021, 12:44:18 PM ---The logical westward extension of HI 200, the Daniel K. Inouye Highway or "Saddle Road" across the Big Island, from its current western end up on the hill at HI 190 down to the Queen Kaahumanu Highway (HI 19) near the coast, is a long-term project but at least it's still in an active planning stage.  Here's this week's update in the local paper.


--- Quote ---The $90 million project’s final environmental impact statement (EIS) is progressing toward completion, nearly four years after the draft version was released in 2017 for public review, according to the state Department of Transportation. The state expects to begin moving into the rights of way acquisition phase later this year, but beyond that, the timeline is foggy.

“We cannot provide a schedule for project construction as we have not identified a funding source for the project,” said Shelly Kunishige, DOT spokeswoman.

The project will extend the cross-island route, known colloquially as Saddle Road, from its current terminus at Mamalahoa Highway near the South Kohala-North Kona boundary to Queen Kaahumanu Highway. The approximately 10.5-mile extension is expected to take about two years to construct once work is underway.
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Google shows one road as Saddle/200 and the other as Inouye. Obviously Inouye is (and is signed as) 200. But what is that western part of Saddle Rd. internally? Is it 2000 or decommissioned?

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Visually - decommissioned.  200 was rerouted onto the new road.  2000 turns right "off itself" onto Pauinako St to End at at Kaumana Dr (former 200) and 200 takes over. The whole routing of 2000 really is so stupid as they took it to a point where they intended to make it a 4-lane at Kohomana St in Hilo but then ended the split road there and turned 2000 onto the cross street with poor lane management and turned it onto Puainako St through residential and school zones with out any fanfare.  I was dumbfounded by it when I visited last month that the route was not completed, but I guess it's so much of a usual HDOT action taken.  All those container trucks from Kona seem forced onto old Saddle Road and Kaumana Drive to get back to the port to refill. (they end up taking many narrow highways (190, Waikola Road, Old Saddle, etc) and put many residential Hilo neighborhoods in danger (IMO) because 11 and 19 are not safe routes for semi trucks (for a lack of a better term given it's on islands and they only transport containers between Kona and Hilo.

oscar:

--- Quote from: SSOWorld on May 07, 2022, 08:45:55 PM ---2000 turns right "off itself" onto Pauinako St to End at at Kaumana Dr (former 200) and 200 takes over. The whole routing of 2000 really is so stupid as they took it to a point where they intended to make it a 4-lane at Kohomana St in Hilo but then ended the split road there and turned 2000 onto the cross street with poor lane management and turned it onto Puainako St through residential and school zones with out any fanfare.  I was dumbfounded by it when I visited last month that the route was not completed, but I guess it's so much of a usual HDOT action taken.  All those container trucks from Kona seem forced onto old Saddle Road and Kaumana Drive to get back to the port to refill. (they end up taking many narrow highways (190, Waikola Road, Old Saddle, etc) and put many residential Hilo neighborhoods in danger (IMO) because 11 and 19 are not safe routes for semi trucks (for a lack of a better term given it's on islands and they only transport containers between Kona and Hilo.
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Definitely a messy situation. Hawaii DOT had plans to straighten HI 2000. But this fell by the wayside, after the Governor ordered the DOT to make only minor improvements to maintain the existing network, with a few exceptions for major projects such as extending HI 200 from HI 190 to HI 19.

The need for truckers to haul containers cross-island, from Hilo to Kailua-Kona via the FUBAR'd Hilo highway network, is in part that Kailua-Kona doesn't have a deep-draft harbor, just a small boat harbor. Kawaihae, north of Kailua-Kona via HI 19 and HI 270, has a deep-draft harbor, the only one on the Big Island other than Hilo's. I don't know why the container ship operators don't make greater use of the Kawaihae harbor, maybe the operators prefer to centralize their operations in Hilo, and think the Big Island is not populous enough (about 200K population) to support two container ports.

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