Illinois notes

[triplemultiplex]

Would your "fictional" upgrade include expanding the Julien Dubuque Bridge to four lanes?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3618.msg2809281#msg2809281

[3467]

Even though it's still on the featured projects list I was told it's over.
They 3 laned a section in East Dubuque and will finish the 3 lane section to Stockton. It's will be very close to an alternating 3 lane from Stockton to Galena. . So I bet it will be similar in design to Beardstown which is 2 12 foot lanes and 2 10 foot shoulders. If course that's 4 11 foot lanes ...anyway just a guess.

[Rick Powell]

Of all the roads to fear in the state of Illinois, I must admit this one never came to mind. It's part of my route to my daughter's house. I think the Latin name for this phobia is "vīgintīquattuorphobia."


https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/illinois-highway-named-most-feared-in-the-state-survey/

[Brandon]

Of all the roads to fear in the state of Illinois, I must admit this one never came to mind. It's part of my route to my daughter's house. I think the Latin name for this phobia is "vīgintīquattuorphobia."


https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/illinois-highway-named-most-feared-in-the-state-survey/

I would've figured the Ryan or the Kennedy, or even the Ike or Edens.

[3467]

I can think of part of US20. The part being made 3 lane US 67 North on Monmouth which IS being completely rebuilt.
24 is getting 4 lanes to the Canton turn to replace the 336 corridor. It's going to be getting shoulders and a dangerous intersection near MT. Sterling has been replaced .
East of Peoria it looks like all the other straight roads in eastern Illinois.

[ET21]

Of all the roads to fear in the state of Illinois, I must admit this one never came to mind. It's part of my route to my daughter's house. I think the Latin name for this phobia is "vīgintīquattuorphobia."


https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/illinois-highway-named-most-feared-in-the-state-survey/

I only fear it because of potholes while storm chasing lol

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

Since I'm spending the night in Decatur, Illinois. What is Route 6W in DT Decatur?
https://goo.gl/maps/DPdj6uPZ2ACRMGQC7

[Rick Powell]

Since I'm spending the night in Decatur, Illinois. What is Route 6W in DT Decatur?
https://goo.gl/maps/DPdj6uPZ2ACRMGQC7

A route for "6 Wheels".

https://www.wandtv.com/news/decaturs-route-6w-a-success-so-far/article_92fe5acb-a952-5e36-adfa-d94a49733cc8.html

[74/171FAN]

Since I'm spending the night in Decatur, Illinois. What is Route 6W in DT Decatur?
https://goo.gl/maps/DPdj6uPZ2ACRMGQC7

A route for "6 Wheels".

https://www.wandtv.com/news/decaturs-route-6w-a-success-so-far/article_92fe5acb-a952-5e36-adfa-d94a49733cc8.html

I guess this route will have lore similar to Charlotte Route 4.

[paulthemapguy]

Are you from Illinois? Are you missing clinches on a route numbered 28, 63, 77, 79, or 86, because Illinois has no state highways with any of those numbers? Then come on down to Will County, Illinois, where county highways with those numbers are now signed!

https://willcounty.gov/County-Offices/Economic-Development/Division-of-Transportation/Highway-System

[JoePCool14]

Good for them (and you, right? Don't you work for the county?). Nice to see another county around here take signing their roads more seriously.

[peterj920]

Illinois is looking to switch the IPass from transponders to stickers. I hope not! I've rented several cars and it's always convenient to move my transponder to my rental car and have done it a lot out east. The sticker wouldn't allow me to do that. Article below:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20231023/stickers-not-transponders-for-tolls-tollway-could-shift-gears-next-year

[kphoger]

I'm already to the point that, if I do end up needing to drive back to Chicagoland for whatever reason, I've decided to simply avoid all the toll roads completely.  Unless I-PASS becomes interoperable with PIKEPASS, it's just not worth the hassle to me.

[peterj920]

I'm already to the point that, if I do end up needing to drive back to Chicagoland for whatever reason, I've decided to simply avoid all the toll roads completely.  Unless I-PASS becomes interoperable with PIKEPASS, it's just not worth the hassle to me.

The IPass is interoperable with EZ pass and all states east of the Mississippi. I've used it in multiple states and brought it with me to rental cars in other eastern states. That's why the transponder is so convenient.

[edwaleni]

I would just apply the sticker to a clear plastic laminate with the same suction cups the transponders have, take the sticker with me anywhere I go by attaching it to the windshield.

Seems easy to me.

In fact to keep it from getting scratched, place it between 2 plastic laminates with one of them having the suction cups. It's an RF tag, so as long as the radio emission can pass through it, you should be good.

Sounds like an Amazon opportunity to me selling the laminate gizmos to hold the sticker in place.

[peterj920]

I would just apply the sticker to a clear plastic laminate with the same suction cups the transponders have, take the sticker with me anywhere I go by attaching it to the windshield.

Seems easy to me.

In fact to keep it from getting scratched, place it between 2 plastic laminates with one of them having the suction cups. It's an RF tag, so as long as the radio emission can pass through it, you should be good.

Sounds like an Amazon opportunity to me selling the laminate gizmos to hold the sticker in place.

I think the stickers have to be registered to each car. With my IPass I go to my account to temporarily add rental cars. If the stickers don't have to be registered to a vehicle genius idea!

[paulthemapguy]

Illinois is looking to switch the IPass from transponders to stickers. I hope not! I've rented several cars and it's always convenient to move my transponder to my rental car and have done it a lot out east. The sticker wouldn't allow me to do that. Article below:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20231023/stickers-not-transponders-for-tolls-tollway-could-shift-gears-next-year

Interesting to see a local newspaper from my neck of the woods make it into a post here!

In any case, stickers do seem a lot cheaper, but I am wondering if their limited durability may cause issues. I heard at a traffic engineering conference recently that ISTHA is looking to essentially use license plate readers in favor of transponder detection.  I don't think the sticker will have any special technology baked in; the cameras will just log a snapshot of your license plate and check it against the database of paid customers.  That's pretty much how they're already taking note of missed tolls anyway.

[kphoger]

I don't think the sticker will have any special technology baked in; the cameras will just log a snapshot of your license plate and check it against the database of paid customers.

You mean, no RFID chips?

[paulthemapguy]

I don't think the sticker will have any special technology baked in; the cameras will just log a snapshot of your license plate and check it against the database of paid customers.

You mean, no RFID chips?

I'm not sure if that's the direction they're going, but I heard that they may not even need those at a certain point.

[edwaleni]

Illinois is looking to switch the IPass from transponders to stickers. I hope not! I've rented several cars and it's always convenient to move my transponder to my rental car and have done it a lot out east. The sticker wouldn't allow me to do that. Article below:

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20231023/stickers-not-transponders-for-tolls-tollway-could-shift-gears-next-year

Interesting to see a local newspaper from my neck of the woods make it into a post here!

In any case, stickers do seem a lot cheaper, but I am wondering if their limited durability may cause issues. I heard at a traffic engineering conference recently that ISTHA is looking to essentially use license plate readers in favor of transponder detection.  I don't think the sticker will have any special technology baked in; the cameras will just log a snapshot of your license plate and check it against the database of paid customers.  That's pretty much how they're already taking note of missed tolls anyway.

There was an article (can't find at the moment) about how ISTHA and the Illinois AG have a backlog of unpaid tolls due to stolen plates.

Leading state? For reasons unknown, its Pennsylvania.

[Rick Powell]

There was an article (can't find at the moment) about how ISTHA and the Illinois AG have a backlog of unpaid tolls due to stolen plates.

Leading state? For reasons unknown, its Pennsylvania.

My name is Bond. James Bond.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jbMWr-gkLFc?feature=share

[JoePCool14]

I would just apply the sticker to a clear plastic laminate with the same suction cups the transponders have, take the sticker with me anywhere I go by attaching it to the windshield.

Seems easy to me.

In fact to keep it from getting scratched, place it between 2 plastic laminates with one of them having the suction cups. It's an RF tag, so as long as the radio emission can pass through it, you should be good.

Sounds like an Amazon opportunity to me selling the laminate gizmos to hold the sticker in place.

I think the stickers have to be registered to each car. With my IPass I go to my account to temporarily add rental cars. If the stickers don't have to be registered to a vehicle genius idea!

This is probably the best that we can hope for. I'd love to see a switch to stickers, if this is still possible. If not... oh well, it's inevitable.

If only there was some sort of interoperable item or tokens that would work on any toll road in the country without the use of special technology installed in every vehicle though. I wonder.

[kphoger]

If every toll system in the nation switched to pay-by-plate and then did a lookup for in-system account holders, then there would no longer be any need for transponders, stickers, or any other such token.  Right?

(and I would hate it)

[paulthemapguy]

I'm thinking that the toll authorities would like to sell at least some piece of collateral that is associated with one particular vehicle, either because it will help the toll authorities identify which vehicle is passing through the toll booth, or just because it's another thing they can charge people for.

[edwaleni]

I-57 will be closed in southern Illinois for a period of time.

https://www.kfvs12.com/2023/10/30/idot-announces-i-57-lane-closures-williamson-co-due-bridge-demolition/

WILLIAMSON COUNTY, Ill. (KFVS) - On Monday, the Illinois Department of Transportation announced upcoming lane closures on Interstate 57 due to bridge demolition operations.

According to a release from IDOT, the closures will take place starting at 7 p.m. on Sunday, November 5 through 7 a.m. on Monday, Nov. 6. Both directions of I-57 will be closed to all traffic between Exit 45 and Exit 54.

The closures are due to demolition operations on the bridge carrying Grassy Road over I-57, just south of Marion in Williamson County.

IDOT says the northbound on-ramps at Old Illinois 13 and Illinois 13 will remain open. A marked detour will be in place to direct northbound and southbound traffic around the work zone between Exit 45 and Exit 54.

The detour will utilize Illinois 13 and Illinois 148 in both directions.