Signs With Design Errors

[thenetwork]

I am one who was also briefly fooled by the Minnesota state route shield being an interstate shield from a distance when I made my first trek along I-94 into Minnesota back in 1992.

Yes, the top part of the shield is yellow, but there are many interstate shields in the wild where the red crown has faded to a white, or yellowish-white color, so IMHO, the MN shields could be mistaken for interstate shields -- or Autoroute shields in Quebec, if you want to really be anal. 

[Quillz]

Can't get a good pic of it right now, but on CA-1 just beyond the California Incline, is a sign featuring a white miner spade. Not only have these not been used since 1964, but this particular stretch of CA-1 wasn't even signed as such until after 1964/white miner spade era.

You mean this?

That's it.

[mrsman]

Can't get a good pic of it right now, but on CA-1 just beyond the California Incline, is a sign featuring a white miner spade. Not only have these not been used since 1964, but this particular stretch of CA-1 wasn't even signed as such until after 1964/white miner spade era.

You mean this?

That's it.

Not meant to be reminiscent of the miner spade era.  It is reflective of the laziness of the sign department in not putting in the green coloring as they are supposed to.

[jakeroot]

Can't get a good pic of it right now, but on CA-1 just beyond the California Incline, is a sign featuring a white miner spade. Not only have these not been used since 1964, but this particular stretch of CA-1 wasn't even signed as such until after 1964/white miner spade era.

You mean this?

That's it.

Not meant to be reminiscent of the miner spade era.  It is reflective of the laziness of the sign department in not putting in the green coloring as they are supposed to.

I didn't realize the CA miner spade was supposed to have a green background. I thought it was supposed to be variable, depending on the context.

Here in WA, while there is no border with background in the CA sense (it's just a shape), the numbers change in color. Almost always black-on-white, but sometimes white-on-black, sometimes orange-on-black, sometimes green-on-white. Depends on the sign in which the shield is on.

[paulthemapguy]

Lol.  This Sioux chief is falling backwards down a hill.


IMG_4498 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

[plain]

Lol.  This Sioux chief is falling backwards down a hill.


IMG_4498 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks almost like the ghosts from the Ducktales game on NES


SM-S820L

[Max Rockatansky]

Lol.  This Sioux chief is falling backwards down a hill.


IMG_4498 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks almost like the ghosts from the Ducktales game on NES


SM-S820L

Good game, I still haven't completed a $0 dollar run. 

[mrsman]

Can't get a good pic of it right now, but on CA-1 just beyond the California Incline, is a sign featuring a white miner spade. Not only have these not been used since 1964, but this particular stretch of CA-1 wasn't even signed as such until after 1964/white miner spade era.

You mean this?

That’s it.

Not meant to be reminiscent of the miner spade era.  It is reflective of the laziness of the sign department in not putting in the green coloring as they are supposed to.

I didn't realize the CA miner spade was supposed to have a green background. I thought it was supposed to be variable, depending on the context.

Here in WA, while there is no border with background in the CA sense (it's just a shape), the numbers change in color. Almost always black-on-white, but sometimes white-on-black, sometimes orange-on-black, sometimes green-on-white. Depends on the sign in which the shield is on.

1964 was a seminal year in CA.  Not only did many highways get renumbered (the great renumbering) in order to accommodate the new interstate highways and to ensure that there was only one highway of any type having the same number, but there were also many truncations of US routes and a reorganization of the look of the different shields.

So pre-1964 the state highway was a white miner spade with a bear on top and the words state highway on the bottom, the post-1964 highway spade was entirely in green.  This is the rule for posting of the shields on the side of the road.

For shields on BGSes, for a long time, CA practice was to produce the outline of the US shield and the miner shield on the BGS without filling in the rest.  This practice continued for a longer period for the state shields with the notion of saying, well the sign is green anyway, why should we fill it in. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1000271,-118.2478375,3a,75y,309.56h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqIh-WhetigeVqZZv1n6rxQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192



But that has nothing to do with the sign that was posted in this thread.  The segment of CA-1 between Oxnard and Dana Point was known as ALT US 101 during the entire  pre-1964 period.  It was never signed with a white CA-1 shield.  When it became CA-1 it was signed with a green shield.  In fact, a relatively famous cover of Caltrans' magazine (California Highways and Public Works) highlighting the great renumbering shows Caltrans workers replacing the ALT US 101 shield with a green CA-1 shield.

Here is a good article about CA's state highway shield, with a picture of that cover:

https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/what-does-californias-state-highway-shield-symbolize

[paulthemapguy]

Oops.  Those arrows are pointing the wrong way.


WA-I-205X09NAZ by Paul Drives, on Flickr

[thenetwork]

Oops.  Those arrows are pointing the wrong way.


WA-I-205X09NAZ by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Not to mention from that angle, the arrows look to be pointing to the #2 and #3 lanes.

[jakeroot]

Weird to see dancing arrows in Washington. There are very few that I know of. Only a couple.

[UCFKnights]

Oops.  Those arrows are pointing the wrong way.


WA-I-205X09NAZ by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Not to mention from that angle, the arrows look to be pointing to the #2 and #3 lanes.

To me it looks like the sign wasn't cantilevered out enough. If they were straight down (likely how it was originally printed), it'd be pointing to the shoulder and lane 1. Instead of fixing the sign placement it looks like they angled the arrows, which looks terrible.

[mrcmc888]

Lol.  This Sioux chief is falling backwards down a hill.


IMG_4498 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks like a Rorshach test to me

[SSR_317]

Oops.  Those arrows are pointing the wrong way.


WA-I-205X09NAZ by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Not to mention from that angle, the arrows look to be pointing to the #2 and #3 lanes.

To me it looks like the sign wasn't cantilevered out enough. If they were straight down (likely how it was originally printed), it'd be pointing to the shoulder and lane 1. Instead of fixing the sign placement it looks like they angled the arrows, which looks terrible.

Hate to to have point out the obvious, but if the arrow was truly pointing to Lane 1 the entire sign would likely have to be located on the LEFT side of the road. I believe you meant to say, "If the arrows were straight down... they would be pointing to lane 4 and the outside shoulder."

[Eth]

Leave it to Hollywood* to overdo it with the special effects and break out the italics on this speed limit sign.



* Florida

[SignBridge]

SSR_317, it depends how you number the lanes. Some states like California number from left-to-right, some others from right-to-left.

[paulthemapguy]

Oops.  Those arrows are pointing the wrong way.


WA-I-205X09NAZ by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Not to mention from that angle, the arrows look to be pointing to the #2 and #3 lanes.

Now that I take a second look at it, I think these signs were retrofitted with a different type of arrow during a construction project, but they forgot to take the retrofit arrows off to restore the sign to its original state once the project was completed.

[formulanone]

Leave it to Hollywood* to overdo it with the special effects and break out the italics on this speed limit sign.



* Florida

Heh, I've been meaning to post that for about four years, but couldn't remember where in Florida I'd seen it.

Somewhere on US 1 north of the Young Circle?

[Eth]

Heh, I've been meaning to post that for about four years, but couldn't remember where in Florida I'd seen it.

Somewhere on US 1 north of the Young Circle?

Very close – about six blocks south of Young Circle.

[jeffandnicole]

SSR_317, it depends how you number the lanes. Some states like California number from left-to-right, some others from right-to-left.

And some don't number them at all.

[roadfro]

SSR_317, it depends how you number the lanes. Some states like California number from left-to-right, some others from right-to-left.

And some don't number them at all.

Lane numbers advertised to the public are rare, so it's hard to say how a state would number the lanes. But I'm fairly certain the common practice among traffic engineers when referencing lanes on a roadway is to refer to the left lane as #1 and increase numbers to the right.

[ThatTenneseeRoadgeek]

Well, I don't know what to say. (Fort Lauderdale, FL.) https://www.google.com/maps/@26.188459,-80.1537554,3a,15y,280.72h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW0woYoMOdS6rwKGoMpX3BA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[formulanone]

Well, I don't know what to say. (Fort Lauderdale, FL.) https://www.google.com/maps/@26.188459,-80.1537554,3a,15y,280.72h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW0woYoMOdS6rwKGoMpX3BA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There's a similar one on Sunrise Boulevard (FL 838) at the Turnpike, as well.

The Florida's Turnpike shield must have at least a dozen variations.

[kphoger]

Well, I don't know what to say. (Fort Lauderdale, FL.) https://www.google.com/maps/@26.188459,-80.1537554,3a,15y,280.72h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW0woYoMOdS6rwKGoMpX3BA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I think the arrow must be pointing to Apalachicola.

[ThatTenneseeRoadgeek]

Well, I don't know what to say. (Fort Lauderdale, FL.) https://www.google.com/maps/@26.188459,-80.1537554,3a,15y,280.72h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW0woYoMOdS6rwKGoMpX3BA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I think the arrow must be pointing to Apalachicola.

HAH! Mabye your right lmao.