Can't seem to find any threads on here on this particular project, only the Elgin O'Hare extension...
http://www.illinoistollway.com/construction-and-planning/projects-by-roadway/jane-addams-memorial-tollway-i-90/eastern-segment
The new I-90 rebuilding and widening project overview as described by Illinois Tollway:
QuoteThe Illinois Tollway is rebuilding and widening the Jane Addams Memorial Tollway (I-90) as a 21st century, state-of-the-art corridor linking Rockford to O'Hare International Airport. The Jane Addams Memorial Tollway is part of Interstate 90, the longest interstate in the United States, and covers 77 miles extending from near the Wisconsin border to the Kennedy Expressway. The I-90 corridor from downtown Chicago to Rockford serves nearly one million travelers per day.
Since it was originally built in the 1950s, residential and commercial growth have strained parts of I-90 beyond its capacity, increasing delays and weakening economic activity. Although it has been repeatedly resurfaced and repaired, the pavement is near the end of its useful life.
In 2011, the Illinois Tollway Board of Directors approved the 15-year, $12 billion capital program, Move Illinois: The Illinois Tollway Driving the Future. The $2.5 billion Jane Addams Memorial Tollway (I-90) Rebuilding and Widening Project encompasses 62 miles and features six reconstructed and expanded lanes from Randall Road to I-39 near Rockford completed in 2014 and reconstruction and expansion to eight lanes from the Tri-State Tollway (I-294) to Randall Road in Elgin to be completed in 2016. The new I-90 will also feature significant improvements to seven interchanges and bus on shoulder service along the eastern segment in partnership with Pace. In addition, the new I-90 includes flexible infrastructure to enable the Tollway to add new "smart" features and future transit expansion for the first time in the agency's history.
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I thought this tidbit in particular was interesting:
The
total thickness of I-90 (the eastern section at least) will be 25"
QuoteThe new eastern segment will include a 9-inch aggregate base covered by 3 inches of asphalt and then 13 inches of new concrete pavement.
Anyone know how this compares to our existing Illinois tollways?
In comparison, the German Autobahn is typically 27" in total thickness of its roadbed and surface (http://www.german-autobahn.eu/index.asp?page=design). It sounds like it's going to be one of our best tollways, if not world class. There is no way this is going be posted at 55 mph, unless of course, you're IDOT/Illinois tollway :rolleyes:
Keep in mind, there will be a
Be Prepared to Stop
sign every 2 miles on it forever.
For reference (although this is likely outdated from 1999), cross sections of the typical American Interstate and German Autobahn:
German Autobahn
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American Interstate
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Quote from: bahnburner on September 08, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
Anyone know how this compares to our existing Illinois tollways?
(Though not a tollway) The Dan Ryan reconstruction completed in late 2008 had a total thickness of 44 inches. 14 or 15 inches of it was the concrete slab on top, and the rest of it was various thicknesses of sub-base. It was an extended life design. Of course, this is a road that sees 300k vehicles a day, distributed among its many express and local lanes, with a good percentage of truck traffic.
Our company is involved in the I-90 section from 294 to 53; I could find out what they are designing for that section.
The section of American interstate highway in the above looks like something out of the 1950's original construction. Much of the interstate system was built before modern pavement design research had matured...they had no idea of the beating these highways were going to take over the next 60 years from 20,000 lb. and greater axle loads and didn't have the physics of paving materials figured out. Even the most lightly travelled interstates would have a minimum 22" or so thick pavement structure (including sub-base) if built new or rehabilitated today, with concrete, and thicker if asphalt is used.
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 09, 2015, 12:39:51 AM
The section of American interstate highway in the above looks like something out of the 1950's original construction. Much of the interstate system was built before modern pavement design research had matured...they had no idea of the beating these highways were going to take over the next 60 years from 20,000 lb. and greater axle loads and didn't have the physics of paving materials figured out. Even the most lightly travelled interstates would have a minimum 22" or so thick pavement structure (including sub-base) if built new or rehabilitated today, with concrete, and thicker if asphalt is used.
^This.
Quote from: bahnburner on September 08, 2015, 10:46:23 PM
In comparison, the German Autobahn is typically 27" in total thickness of its roadbed and surface (http://www.german-autobahn.eu/index.asp?page=design). It sounds like it's going to be one of our best tollways, if not world class. There is no way this is going be posted at 55 mph, unless of course, you're IDOT/Illinois tollway :rolleyes:
Probably will be posted at 60 MPH for the most part, like most of the tollway system is now.
Maybe I-290 to I-294 55 seeing how I-294 is 55 from there to I-55
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 09, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
Our company is involved in the I-90 section from 294 to 53; I could find out what they are designing for that section.
Finally got around to looking on what is being put in on I-90. There is a 14" continuous reinforced concrete pavement on top, followed by a 3" hot mix asphalt stabilized layer and a 12" aggregate base on the bottom. The aggregate base is thicker in some locations where it is necessary to strengthen the base for weaker soils underneath.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 20, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
Maybe I-290 to I-294 55 seeing how I-294 is 55 from there to I-55
Possibly, if the tollway thinks its too congested between I-290 and I-294 for 60. Then 60 between 290 and Randall Road.
Quote from: Rothman on September 09, 2015, 08:44:46 AM
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 09, 2015, 12:39:51 AM
The section of American interstate highway in the above looks like something out of the 1950's original construction. Much of the interstate system was built before modern pavement design research had matured...they had no idea of the beating these highways were going to take over the next 60 years from 20,000 lb. and greater axle loads and didn't have the physics of paving materials figured out. Even the most lightly travelled interstates would have a minimum 22" or so thick pavement structure (including sub-base) if built new or rehabilitated today, with concrete, and thicker if asphalt is used.
^This.
So how thin were they back-in-the-day?
Quote from: Buffaboy on October 20, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
So how thin were they back-in-the-day?
The section of I-57 south of Kankakee in Iroquois County was 7" of continuously reinforced concrete, and I doubt there was more than 4 inches of sub-base underneath which was probably crushed gravel stabilized with asphalt cement (we called it BAM back then, it was a less dense form of hot mix). Original construction of the mid 1960s.
I can't wait for this project to be finished. Basically, once everything is done in 2016-17, the only things that will have to be done to the I-90 corridor is rebuild/reconfigure the I-290/IL-53 system interchange and rebuild/reconfigure the Randall Road interchange.
I heard construction may start in 2017 on the IL-23 interchange in Marengo.
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
After punching overhead lighting all the way west to Rockford, it makes its absence on the stretch north to the state line all the more obvious.
Quote from: JREwing78 on October 26, 2015, 12:32:09 AM
After punching overhead lighting all the way west to Rockford, it makes its absence on the stretch north to the state line all the more obvious.
The whole section from the Cherry Valley Interchange to Rockton Road is terrible. The Tollway cut corners big time. They didn't use concrete with asphalt shoulders, they used hot-mix asphalt and it's already coming undone. They didn't rebuild most of the crossroad bridges (and mainline bridges) in that segment and there is no lighting in the medium, as you mentioned.
They are gonna have to redo that segment in about 15-20 years.
The scope of this rebuild cannot be understated. I will say that this project has been well done and handle very effectively and I give a pat on the back to the Illinois Tollway for the way it has handled this project so far.
Certainly, they don't have 12 foot lanes on the Autobahn. I'd guess something more like 3.7 m lanes (correct me if I'm wrong).
Edit: Per this (http://www.german-autobahn.eu/index.asp?page=design) rural lanes are 3.75 m (12' 4") and urban lanes are 3.5 m (11' 6").
The lights in the median are a little excessive...
Quote from: I-39 on October 26, 2015, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: JREwing78 on October 26, 2015, 12:32:09 AM
After punching overhead lighting all the way west to Rockford, it makes its absence on the stretch north to the state line all the more obvious.
The whole section from the Cherry Valley Interchange to Rockton Road is terrible. The Tollway cut corners big time. They didn't use concrete with asphalt shoulders, they used hot-mix asphalt and it's already coming undone. They didn't rebuild most of the crossroad bridges (and mainline bridges) in that segment and there is no lighting in the medium, as you mentioned.
They are gonna have to redo that segment in about 15-20 years.
I seem to remember that they did an overlay of the existing concrete roadbed between Cherry Valley and Rockton, expanding the asphalt into the median to make the third lane. It was clearly not built to last as long as the work done east of Cherry Valley.
Quote from: SSOWorld on October 27, 2015, 10:14:18 PM
The lights in the median are a little excessive...
I like em.
Driving this yesterday I notice a few sections that aren't even fully prep'd to be graded and concrete pavement to be put down. I know June was kind of a washout with all the rain but any word from anyone (besides the tollway itself) on if this project is behind or not. With about 2-3 more weeks before the major winter shutdown I can't see them having us on the new outside lanes this year. I know the inside lanes will be easier and maybe the plan was to finish up the outside lanes in early spring and then shift traffic over because the inside lanes should be easier. If anyone has any info please share!
I"ve heard thirdhand that many sections of the eastern half widen/rebuild are behind schedule. The Tollway has also delayed the letting date (as can be found here) (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/15912/Bid+Letting+Schedule.pdf) a few time for the inner lanes on the segment between Roselle Road and I-290.
There indeed have been some delays, this tribune article states why.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-tollway-jane-addams-contracts-met-20150819-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-tollway-jane-addams-contracts-met-20150819-story.html)
Since this reconstruction/widening is a LOT more extensive than what they did on I-88 and I-294, I'm sure there was a bigger possibility delays could come up. I anticipate when they rebuild the Central Tri-State, it will face challenges that could delay it too.
Quote from: I-39 on November 21, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
There indeed have been some delays, this tribune article states why.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-tollway-jane-addams-contracts-met-20150819-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-tollway-jane-addams-contracts-met-20150819-story.html)
Since this reconstruction/widening is a LOT more extensive than what they did on I-88 and I-294, I'm sure there was a bigger possibility delays could come up. I anticipate when they rebuild the Central Tri-State, it will face challenges that could delay it too.
Could you paste the story, pay wall.
Quote from: quickshade on November 21, 2015, 10:43:53 AM
Quote from: I-39 on November 21, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
There indeed have been some delays, this tribune article states why.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-tollway-jane-addams-contracts-met-20150819-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-tollway-jane-addams-contracts-met-20150819-story.html)
Since this reconstruction/widening is a LOT more extensive than what they did on I-88 and I-294, I'm sure there was a bigger possibility delays could come up. I anticipate when they rebuild the Central Tri-State, it will face challenges that could delay it too.
Could you paste the story, pay wall.
Hmm, that's odd, I can get to it through Google, but i'll post it anyway. This was published on August 19th.
Unanticipated extra work and contract changes because of delays on the massive Jane Addams reconstruction project will cost the Illinois Tollway more than $19.5 million, officials said Wednesday.
The additional costs represent only a small percentage of the anticipated $840 million being spent on the Addams in 2015 alone and do not threaten to bust the project's budget, but paying them will help ensure the work stays on schedule, Illinois State Toll Highway Authority board members were told.
The Addams rebuilding is the most extensive highway project underway in the Chicago area, involving hundreds of workers and a half-dozen of the biggest contractors, including the Walsh, Plote and Lorig construction companies.
"We're spending $6 million to $8 million a day out there," Tollway Chief Engineer Paul Kovacs said. "It's a huge amount of money, but we're operating within the $2.5 billion I-90 rebuilding and widening project budget."
The Tollway is in the midst of reconstructing the 25-mile stretch of the Addams from the Elgin Toll Plaza to the Tri-State Tollway (I-294) and widening it from six to eight lanes. The work is scheduled to be complete by the end of 2016.
The rebuilding of the 37-mile stretch from Elgin west to Rockford and widening from four to six lanes were completed last year.
The Tollway board awarded about $190 million worth of Addams construction and engineering contracts in February. On Wednesday, the board's Finance Committee approved 13 extra work and change orders to those contracts.
The extra labor and additional materials called for in the change orders are needed to offset initial delays that caused a "ripple effect" on the Addams work, Kovacs said.
Those delays were primarily due to setbacks in acquiring permits from the Army Corps of Engineers and utility companies like Nicor Gas, relocating utility lines at construction sites and the weather, Kovacs said.
Another difficulty came during relocation of a 16.5-mile water pipeline owned by the Northwest Suburban Municipal Joint Action Water Agency. The pipeline is adjacent to the tollway. The Tollway is footing the upfront cost, estimated at $73 million, but is being repaid by the water agency.
The extra work orders will put construction crews on duty for longer hours and on weekends to ensure the project stays on schedule, Kovacs said.
The change orders generally reflected the need for additional materials, such as extra asphalt for temporary ramps, Kovacs said.
"We place a high priority on getting the work done as quickly as we can," Kovacs said. "This is my best plan for keeping our promise for getting the work done by the end of 2016."
If the project were to extend beyond next year, costs would escalate even higher, motorists would be inconvenienced longer and toll revenue would be lost, he said.
To ensure that extra work and change orders are justified, the Tollway has a special committee to review them. Contract changes totaling more than $200,000, such as those requested Wednesday, must be approved by the Tollway board.
Newly named Tollway Executive Director Greg Bedalov, meanwhile, reported that the agency is experiencing its best summer travel season on record, recording the 10 busiest days in Tollway history and averaging nearly 2.8 million weekday toll transactions.
One day, July 24, was the agency's busiest-ever, with 2.9 million toll transactions, Bedalov said.
The growth in traffic, Bedalov said, was likely because of the region's continuing economic expansion, higher employment, lower fuel prices and improvements that have been made to the Tollway system in the past decade.
So I would imagine based on the snow today and the fact that they are behind that most area's won't be switched over to the new outside lanes until late spring, and it will be a hurry to finish the whole project by end of next year. Interested to see what they try to complete over the winter and how the project proceeds in the spring.
If the winter stays relatively mild maybe it can provide an opportunity for them to catch up on the work. There have been a few shifts east of Elmhurst Road where at least one lane of traffic is on the new pavement. Its their winter configuration I guess. I sure hope they use the relatively mild weather as an opportunity to catch up to schedule. More time under construction would really suck.
I can confirm that from Tohuy Ave on east to I-294 all 3 lanes east and west are on the new pavement. That was changed over last week. I use 90 from Lee St. towards 294 almost Daily. I will check this afternoon to see if it goes all the way to Elmhurst Rd.
I believe the only section left is between 53 and roselle road. There is still some major pavement work to be done so I wouldn't be surprised if the switch didn't happen until spring time in that section.
All three lanes of 90 is on the new pavement going in both directions from 294 to just west of the Elmhurst Road Exit. It goes back to the old pavement a little west of Elmhurst Road.
From a car spotting group on facebook:
"New dynamic messaging signs are up on I-90"
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This seemingly completed section is obviously west of Elgin, which I haven't been to yet. Looks decent.
By the way, anyone know if variable speed limits are coming for sure?
The Elgin to Rockford section is going to 70, they said sometime during the spring but I would not be shocked if they waited until fall when major construction is wrapped up on 90. I would venture to guess they will monitor Elgin to Chicago next year and see if we get an increase sometime in 2018 for that section.
I keep forgetting that I-90 now merges into I-39 instead of the other way around in Rockford. I am just wondering; do they drop a lane before the Cherry Valley Interchange, or do they keep it at three lanes and gradually dropping them as they get closer to State Street?
They still use that extra thick striping.
Never change, Illinois..... never change.
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on January 20, 2016, 11:26:40 PM
I keep forgetting that I-90 now merges into I-39 instead of the other way around in Rockford. I am just wondering; do they drop a lane before the Cherry Valley Interchange, or do they keep it at three lanes and gradually dropping them as they get closer to State Street?
The right lane becomes an exit only lane at the Cherry Valley Interchange.
Quote from: mrose on January 21, 2016, 02:30:59 AM
They still use that extra thick striping.
Never change, Illinois..... never change.
Not IDOT, ISTHA.
Quote from: SSOWorld on January 21, 2016, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: mrose on January 21, 2016, 02:30:59 AM
They still use that extra thick striping.
Never change, Illinois..... never change.
Not IDOT, ISTHA.
That's right, because I only ever saw it on the tollways.
Quote from: mrose on January 21, 2016, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on January 21, 2016, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: mrose on January 21, 2016, 02:30:59 AM
They still use that extra thick striping.
Never change, Illinois..... never change.
Not IDOT, ISTHA.
That's right, because I only ever saw it on the tollways.
New Jersey Turnpike also.
Quote from: SSOWorld on January 21, 2016, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: mrose on January 21, 2016, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on January 21, 2016, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: mrose on January 21, 2016, 02:30:59 AM
They still use that extra thick striping.
Never change, Illinois..... never change.
Not IDOT, ISTHA.
That's right, because I only ever saw it on the tollways.
New Jersey Turnpike also.
Indiana Toll Road as well.
Quote from: Brandon on January 21, 2016, 06:27:06 AM
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on January 20, 2016, 11:26:40 PM
I keep forgetting that I-90 now merges into I-39 instead of the other way around in Rockford. I am just wondering; do they drop a lane before the Cherry Valley Interchange, or do they keep it at three lanes and gradually dropping them as they get closer to State Street?
The right lane becomes an exit only lane at the Cherry Valley Interchange.
The middle lane of I-90 is then forced to merge left about a half mile after WBD I-90 merges with NBD I-39. So ultimately, 3 lanes of WBD I-90 transition down to 1 lane, but it's done over quite a long distance and normally poses no operational issues. On the next redo, however, I would advise ISTHA extend that lane to the Bus US-20 exit.
Seems like everything is moving ahead with the mild winter we have had so far. Center lanes are already torn up in parts for sewer/electric work and the old Fox River Bridge is almost complete gone except for a few footings and pillars left to come down.
If weather continues like this they may have grading work mostly complete by end of spring. I would imagine by mid spring all the beams will be in place on the new bridge and concrete paving could begin. Interesting to see if they can make up the bit of lost time from the delays last year. Maybe even finish major construction ahead of schedule :-D
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Also, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Also, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
Access to the Woodfield area from I-90 to/from the west. Currently, between IL-59 and IL-53/I-290, there are no exit/entry ramps in that direction. Barrington Road is being turned into a full interchange, and the half-interchange at Meacham Road is also meant to help with that.
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Because Schaumburg wanted it. With all the redevelopment planned for the Motorala campus the new ramps should provide some relief for Algonquin Road.
At least for the exit the spacing won't be much of a problem since the C-D roadway that receives the movements from I-290 and IL 53 will just be extended past Meacham before merging with mainline I-90.
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PMAlso, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
It appears any improvements to the I-90/I-290/IL 53 interchange are so far out that ISTHA does not see the need to even consider what might be required as part of a future redo of the cloverleaf. especially since they are completely replacing the pavement for all of the existing ramps.
Quote from: Brandon on February 29, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Also, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
Access to the Woodfield area from I-90 to/from the west. Currently, between IL-59 and IL-53/I-290, there are no exit/entry ramps in that direction. Barrington Road is being turned into a full interchange, and the half-interchange at Meacham Road is also meant to help with that.
roselle road too.
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 29, 2016, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Because Schaumburg wanted it. With all the redevelopment planned for the Motorala campus the new ramps should provide some relief for Algonquin Road.
At least for the exit the spacing won't be much of a problem since the C-D roadway that receives the movements from I-290 and IL 53 will just be extended past Meacham before merging with mainline I-90.
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PMAlso, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
It appears any improvements to the I-90/I-290/IL 53 interchange are so far out that ISTHA does not see the need to even consider what might be required as part of a future redo of the cloverleaf. especially since they are completely replacing the pavement for all of the existing ramps.
I'll have to check the ramps out next time I swing by, if they are blacktop in certain sections I would not be surprised. Cheap, easy to remove and almost 100% recyclable.
Quote from: quickshade on March 01, 2016, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 29, 2016, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Because Schaumburg wanted it. With all the redevelopment planned for the Motorala campus the new ramps should provide some relief for Algonquin Road.
At least for the exit the spacing won't be much of a problem since the C-D roadway that receives the movements from I-290 and IL 53 will just be extended past Meacham before merging with mainline I-90.
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PMAlso, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
It appears any improvements to the I-90/I-290/IL 53 interchange are so far out that ISTHA does not see the need to even consider what might be required as part of a future redo of the cloverleaf. especially since they are completely replacing the pavement for all of the existing ramps.
I'll have to check the ramps out next time I swing by, if they are blacktop in certain sections I would not be surprised. Cheap, easy to remove and almost 100% recyclable.
They are, in fact, being rebuilt with concrete on all except two of them. The exceptions are IL 53 South to I-90 West (I think due to lack of space), and I believe I-90 East to I-290 East/IL 53 South (someone please double check this for me). Either way, this leads me to believe that the tollway doesn't expect to be changing this configuration anytime soon. Likely, this is a result of a lack of cooperation/funding from IDOT. Just look how long it took and is still taking just to get an interchange between I-57 and I-294 built.
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 01, 2016, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 29, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Also, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
Access to the Woodfield area from I-90 to/from the west. Currently, between IL-59 and IL-53/I-290, there are no exit/entry ramps in that direction. Barrington Road is being turned into a full interchange, and the half-interchange at Meacham Road is also meant to help with that.
roselle road too.
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 10, 2016, 12:43:27 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 01, 2016, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 29, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: I-39 on February 29, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Also, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
Access to the Woodfield area from I-90 to/from the west. Currently, between IL-59 and IL-53/I-290, there are no exit/entry ramps in that direction. Barrington Road is being turned into a full interchange, and the half-interchange at Meacham Road is also meant to help with that.
roselle road too.
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6)
It seems the on ramp will be further down on west central road according to this spec sheet. I haven't looked into this but will next week when I have a chance.
Quote from: dave069 on October 19, 2015, 06:22:17 PM
Quote from: bahnburner on September 08, 2015, 10:46:23 PMIt sounds like it's going to be one of our best tollways, if not world class. There is no way this is going be posted at 55 mph, unless of course, you're IDOT/Illinois tollway :rolleyes:
Probably will be posted at 60 MPH for the most part, like most of the tollway system is now.
Considering people still go 80+ through the 45mph construction zones, does it really matter what the posted limit will be?
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 10, 2016, 12:43:27 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on March 01, 2016, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 29, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
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Does anyone know why they are putting a (partial) interchange at Meacham Road? I never understood that. I feel it's too close to the I-90/IL-53/I-290 system interchange.
Also, do you think the Meacham Road bridge is being built to accommodate future improvements at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange? I feel like they didn't widen the bridge enough for potential auxiliary lanes.
Access to the Woodfield area from I-90 to/from the west. Currently, between IL-59 and IL-53/I-290, there are no exit/entry ramps in that direction. Barrington Road is being turned into a full interchange, and the half-interchange at Meacham Road is also meant to help with that.
roselle road too.
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
Was the full Irene Rd interchange really vitally necessary? It was kind of an accidental interchange to start with. Since the WB exit ramp was there it made sense to add on Eb entrance ramp. But if there is a lack of funds available Roselle Rd was far more important than Irene Rd. Not that I think the full Irene Rd interchange was a bad idea but if you could only do one without question do Roselle.
Quote from: quickshade on June 10, 2016, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 10, 2016, 12:43:27 AM
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6)
It seems the on ramp will be further down on west central road according to this spec sheet. I haven't looked into this but will next week when I have a chance.
The entrance to WB I-90 from Roselle Road via Central Road has had a slight delay since it will be added as part of a rebuild of Central Road between Roselle and Ela. I
think Cook County will be letting that project with construction scheduled for 2017. I've also heard the delay had to due to funding issues on the County side.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 10, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: quickshade on June 10, 2016, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 10, 2016, 12:43:27 AM
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6)
It seems the on ramp will be further down on west central road according to this spec sheet. I haven't looked into this but will next week when I have a chance.
The entrance to WB I-90 from Roselle Road via Central Road has had a slight delay since it will be added as part of a rebuild of Central Road between Roselle and Ela. I think Cook County will be letting that project with construction scheduled for 2017. I've also heard the delay had to due to funding issues on the County side.
Doesn't surprise me. However, I don't get why the tollway doesn't specify that on the project page. I imagine people living in that area would like to know better what's going on with that as that is a highly anticipated entrance. Hopefully Cook County gets their act together on that.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 10, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: quickshade on June 10, 2016, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 10, 2016, 12:43:27 AM
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6)
It seems the on ramp will be further down on west central road according to this spec sheet. I haven't looked into this but will next week when I have a chance.
The entrance to WB I-90 from Roselle Road via Central Road has had a slight delay since it will be added as part of a rebuild of Central Road between Roselle and Ela. I think Cook County will be letting that project with construction scheduled for 2017. I've also heard the delay had to due to funding issues on the County side.
IDOT was late to disperse the motor fuel tax funds last year due to the budget impasse, hence projects in cook county and dupage county were delayed.
Took a drive last night from 59 eastward. A lot of good progress since I last saw it (1.5 years ago). Like the new IL-72 bridge just west of Roselle, saw a bit of new signage at the I-290/53 interchange.
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
That would send him by the Edens Spur though, which he proclaimed the most useless road in the country.
Quote from: tribar on June 12, 2016, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
That would send him by the Edens Spur though, which he proclaimed the most useless road in the country.
He could go south on the Tri-State that will get him to Indiana.
Quote from: tribar on June 12, 2016, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
That would send him by the Edens Spur though, which he proclaimed the most useless road in the country.
Yeah wave as you go by the Spur & Edens (94), the Kennedy (90), the Strangler & Ike (290), even the Steve (55)...pretty much all the "free"ways are somewhere between "free" and worthless most days. Take the Tristate and sneak in from the south on 57 or 94. Or make a day of it and go to Indiana. Thats the ticket.
Quote from: ET21 on June 11, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
Took a drive last night from 59 eastward. A lot of good progress since I last saw it (1.5 years ago). Like the new IL-72 bridge just west of Roselle, saw a bit of new signage at the I-290/53 interchange.
I was on it this evening from O'Hare to Roselle. It looks like the new outside lanes are generally finished in all places now. It is quite apparent how much more width it is going to have out to Elgin. Also, I do like how it is/will be all LED lighting (I know some don't much care for it, but I think it adds a good modern touch to it).
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 13, 2016, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: tribar on June 12, 2016, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
That would send him by the Edens Spur though, which he proclaimed the most useless road in the country.
Yeah wave as you go by the Spur & Edens (94), the Kennedy (90), the Strangler & Ike (290), even the Steve (55)...pretty much all the "free"ways are somewhere between "free" and worthless most days. Take the Tristate and sneak in from the south on 57 or 94. Or make a day of it and go to Indiana. Thats the ticket.
So now all the freeways into Chicago are useless now?
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 14, 2016, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: ET21 on June 11, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
Took a drive last night from 59 eastward. A lot of good progress since I last saw it (1.5 years ago). Like the new IL-72 bridge just west of Roselle, saw a bit of new signage at the I-290/53 interchange.
I was on it this evening from O'Hare to Roselle. It looks like the new outside lanes are generally finished in all places now. It is quite apparent how much more width it is going to have out to Elgin. Also, I do like how it is/will be all LED lighting (I know some don't much care for it, but I think it adds a good modern touch to it).
I agree, lights are a nice touch. Looks like there's some areas missing the lights right now near the forest preserves.
Quote from: johndoe780 on June 14, 2016, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 14, 2016, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: ET21 on June 11, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
Took a drive last night from 59 eastward. A lot of good progress since I last saw it (1.5 years ago). Like the new IL-72 bridge just west of Roselle, saw a bit of new signage at the I-290/53 interchange.
I was on it this evening from O'Hare to Roselle. It looks like the new outside lanes are generally finished in all places now. It is quite apparent how much more width it is going to have out to Elgin. Also, I do like how it is/will be all LED lighting (I know some don't much care for it, but I think it adds a good modern touch to it).
I agree, lights are a nice touch. Looks like there's some areas missing the lights right now near the forest preserves.
I wonder if that's on purpose. But as I type this, why didn't they do that for the rural sections?
Quote from: ET21 on June 14, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on June 14, 2016, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 14, 2016, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: ET21 on June 11, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
Took a drive last night from 59 eastward. A lot of good progress since I last saw it (1.5 years ago). Like the new IL-72 bridge just west of Roselle, saw a bit of new signage at the I-290/53 interchange.
I was on it this evening from O'Hare to Roselle. It looks like the new outside lanes are generally finished in all places now. It is quite apparent how much more width it is going to have out to Elgin. Also, I do like how it is/will be all LED lighting (I know some don't much care for it, but I think it adds a good modern touch to it).
I agree, lights are a nice touch. Looks like there's some areas missing the lights right now near the forest preserves.
I wonder if that's on purpose. But as I type this, why didn't they do that for the rural sections?
That is a mystery to me why they put lightning in the median all the way out to Rockford. They haven't put in the lighting on the eastern section yet because they are still building the inside lanes.
And I LOVE, I repeat, LOVE the LED lighting! You can actually see things a lot better than the conventional high-pressure sodium lighting. I wish IDOT would adopt LED lighting for future projects.
Quote from: I-39 on June 14, 2016, 09:00:15 PM
Quote from: ET21 on June 14, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on June 14, 2016, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 14, 2016, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: ET21 on June 11, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
Took a drive last night from 59 eastward. A lot of good progress since I last saw it (1.5 years ago). Like the new IL-72 bridge just west of Roselle, saw a bit of new signage at the I-290/53 interchange.
I was on it this evening from O'Hare to Roselle. It looks like the new outside lanes are generally finished in all places now. It is quite apparent how much more width it is going to have out to Elgin. Also, I do like how it is/will be all LED lighting (I know some don't much care for it, but I think it adds a good modern touch to it).
I agree, lights are a nice touch. Looks like there's some areas missing the lights right now near the forest preserves.
I wonder if that's on purpose. But as I type this, why didn't they do that for the rural sections?
That is a mystery to me why they put lightning in the median all the way out to Rockford. They haven't put in the lighting on the eastern section yet because they are still building the inside lanes.
And I LOVE, I repeat, LOVE the LED lighting! You can actually see things a lot better than the conventional high-pressure sodium lighting. I wish IDOT would adopt LED lighting for future projects.
In many sections, the lighting is down the middle (actually a very standard tollway practice, and I'm sure a good money saver as this requires less poles). I expect, once the inside lanes are done, we'll see this lighting appear in those sections where it is currently not yet installed.
I totally agree about IDOT and the lack of LED lighting on their highways. The only places I personally feel the tollway LED lighting looks odd is where there is an interchange where IDOT didn't do the LED lighting (a better example of this can be seen at the I-290 IL-390 interchange under construction, and I have to ask why is it that some of the lighting appears to be done IDOT standard at this spot).
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356)
Looks like the smart road installation will begin next week. The whole system should be finished with general construction this fall, and after testing it should come online in early 2017.
Quote from: quickshade on June 16, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356)
Looks like the smart road installation will begin next week. The whole system should be finished with general construction this fall, and after testing it should come online in early 2017.
only to Barrington Road? and not all the way to Randal?
When is this mess supposed to be finished?
Quote from: tribar on June 17, 2016, 10:27:26 PM
When is this mess supposed to be finished?
For the most part, by the end of this year. Some minor punch-list items will remain for early next year.
Quote from: tribar on June 14, 2016, 12:20:49 AM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 13, 2016, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: tribar on June 12, 2016, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
That would send him by the Edens Spur though, which he proclaimed the most useless road in the country.
Yeah wave as you go by the Spur & Edens (94), the Kennedy (90), the Strangler & Ike (290), even the Steve (55)...pretty much all the "free"ways are somewhere between "free" and worthless most days. Take the Tristate and sneak in from the south on 57 or 94. Or make a day of it and go to Indiana. Thats the ticket.
So now all the freeways into Chicago are useless now?
Pretty much during the day. http://www.cmap.illinois.gov/documents/10180/359519/2015-08-26-Chicago-traffic-among-worst-Chicago-Tribune.pdf/5338ec11-819c-4dda-a25e-a24593238775
Its a simple concept. I-90 is pretty much an E/W tollway for nearly a thousand miles from Boston to Englewood on the southside. And again from Ohare to Beloit. For 25 miles through Chicago its been bundled (for FREE?) with the Ike/Ryan initially, and now the Kennedy/Ryan. And its the crux of major traffic headaches.
Yeah theres this....http://distancescalculator.com/calculate?from=IKEA+Schaumburg%2C+Schaumburg%2C+IL%2C+United+States&to=Gary%2C+IN%2C+United+States
But this would be much, much better....http://imgur.com/E6RD2Co :wave:
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 10, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: quickshade on June 10, 2016, 01:30:06 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 10, 2016, 12:43:27 AM
Dusting off this thread, but what is going on with the Roselle Road interchange? It looks like the tollway currently is only putting a stub in for where the westbound on-ramp is supposed to go. Also, a I see what appears to be a newly installed fence where the ramp would be at. Is there something going on with this, or is this portion of the interchange on hold? I know a large business relocated there because of the interchange expansion, so I'd imagine they would be very irritated if it turns out that they do not intend to complete the interchange immediately.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/5db8bfd5-87e9-453a-87c8-26a83429acd6)
It seems the on ramp will be further down on west central road according to this spec sheet. I haven't looked into this but will next week when I have a chance.
The entrance to WB I-90 from Roselle Road via Central Road has had a slight delay since it will be added as part of a rebuild of Central Road between Roselle and Ela. I think Cook County will be letting that project with construction scheduled for 2017. I've also heard the delay had to due to funding issues on the County side.
Haha, and you know IDOT is going to make that Central Road rebuild a priority...since their office is right there ON Central Road near Roselle. Also, how do the WB I-90 ramps get lumped in with the rebuild of a county road when they belong to two different agencies? Separate contracts? Or one big ISTHA contract with partial county funding?
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 18, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: tribar on June 14, 2016, 12:20:49 AM
So now all the freeways into Chicago are useless now?
Pretty much during the day. http://www.cmap.illinois.gov/documents/10180/359519/2015-08-26-Chicago-traffic-among-worst-Chicago-Tribune.pdf/5338ec11-819c-4dda-a25e-a24593238775
Its a simple concept. I-90 is pretty much an E/W tollway for nearly a thousand miles from Boston to Englewood on the southside. And again from Ohare to Beloit. For 25 miles through Chicago its been bundled (for FREE?) with the Ike/Ryan initially, and now the Kennedy/Ryan. And its the crux of major traffic headaches.
Yawn.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 19, 2016, 01:16:47 AM
Haha, and you know IDOT is going to make that Central Road rebuild a priority...since their office is right there ON Central Road near Roselle. Also, how do the WB I-90 ramps get lumped in with the rebuild of a county road when they belong to two different agencies? Separate contracts? Or one big ISTHA contract with partial county funding?
IDOT does not actually get much of any say in the rebuilding of Central since it's a county road.
My understanding is that there will be one contract let by the County that covers both Central Road and the entrance ramp, and there's an agreement written a certain way so the County pays for part of the project and the Tollway pays for the other part. I would not be surprised if I am mistaken and the whole project is instead let by the Tollway.
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 18, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: tribar on June 14, 2016, 12:20:49 AM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 13, 2016, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: tribar on June 12, 2016, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
That would send him by the Edens Spur though, which he proclaimed the most useless road in the country.
Yeah wave as you go by the Spur & Edens (94), the Kennedy (90), the Strangler & Ike (290), even the Steve (55)...pretty much all the "free"ways are somewhere between "free" and worthless most days. Take the Tristate and sneak in from the south on 57 or 94. Or make a day of it and go to Indiana. Thats the ticket.
So now all the freeways into Chicago are useless now?
Pretty much during the day. http://www.cmap.illinois.gov/documents/10180/359519/2015-08-26-Chicago-traffic-among-worst-Chicago-Tribune.pdf/5338ec11-819c-4dda-a25e-a24593238775
Its a simple concept. I-90 is pretty much an E/W tollway for nearly a thousand miles from Boston to Englewood on the southside. And again from Ohare to Beloit. For 25 miles through Chicago its been bundled (for FREE?) with the Ike/Ryan initially, and now the Kennedy/Ryan. And its the crux of major traffic headaches.
Yeah theres this....http://distancescalculator.com/calculate?from=IKEA+Schaumburg%2C+Schaumburg%2C+IL%2C+United+States&to=Gary%2C+IN%2C+United+States
But this would be much, much better....http://imgur.com/E6RD2Co :wave:
Idot naturally also has the bad hand since all their routes enter Chicago and are going to be more congested, and is more expensive since it has more bridges, more trains, higher traffic count, etc. etc.
I assume ITHSA doesn't have to deal with as much NIMBY'ers as much as IDOT through Chicago (except of course 53)
You want to put tolls on I-90 through the city? Okay. Good luck getting toll booth infrastructure on the bajillions of ramps downtown. :)
No one in their right mind is staying on 90 through Chicago anyway, when 294 is over there. So if you want to toll people who are going from points southeast to points northwest, it's already happening.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 20, 2016, 11:46:34 PM
You want to put tolls on I-90 through the city? Okay. Good luck getting toll booth infrastructure on the bajillions of ramps downtown. :)
No one in their right mind is staying on 90 through Chicago anyway, when 294 is over there. So if you want to toll people who are going from points southeast to points northwest, it's already happening.
NO. Something a bit more deviant "mapguy"...No more 90/94... http://distancescalculator.com/calculate?from=IKEA+Schaumburg%2C+Schaumburg%2C+IL%2C+United+States&to=Gary%2C+IN%2C+United+States
Rerename I-290 from Schaumburg to Strangler I-90. And toll some, maybe all lanes. EOE and new I-490 are already headed that way. Why stop? Then build the 16-mile "missing link" between the Strangler and Skyway..http://imgur.com/E6RD2Co
That "frees" the freeways. Remember this is all on a ten to twenty year time frame.
"No one in their right mind is staying on 90 through Chicago anyway, when 294 is over there. So if you want to toll people who are going from points southeast to points northwest, it's already happening."
I agree somewhat. But there is a bunch of interstate "cheating" going on as well and I contend that that is clogging the freeways mentioned previously. The option of the straightest, fastest, shortest way through town?? Chicago and Cook is worthy of TWO complete TOLLWAYS. Now right minds may stay on I-90. Would this cannibalize traffic from south 294? Maybe? Initially? But it looks like growth patterns for the next decades may favor SW suburbs regardless, so this should not be a problem. A huge boost to the southside and NW IN would not be a bad thing either.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 20, 2016, 11:46:34 PM
You want to put tolls on I-90 through the city? Okay. Good luck getting toll booth infrastructure on the bajillions of ramps downtown. :)
No one in their right mind is staying on 90 through Chicago anyway, when 294 is over there. So if you want to toll people who are going from points southeast to points northwest, it's already happening.
IDOT already has in their plan 4 laning the kennedy to Harlem from Cumberland, and the plan of widening the eisenhower should wrap up later this summer. That and the cumberland flyover should help the kennedy and the eisenhower, but obviously it's still going to be congested no matter what.
There's really not much you can do to alleviate all of that traffic congestion that goes downtown besides advocating for public transportation. Downtown is where the jobs are. People gotta get there somehow.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on June 16, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: quickshade on June 16, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356)
Looks like the smart road installation will begin next week. The whole system should be finished with general construction this fall, and after testing it should come online in early 2017.
only to Barrington Road? and not all the way to Randal?
I believe the system is built into the roadway for future expansion if needed, but I need to double check on that. I do know that the entire roadway is wired with sensors and cameras to detect traffic amounts and deploy police/roadway safety crews if something pops up anywhere on the road. I do know that when they took into account traffic counts and accident data when they planned this so I'm thinking that might have something to do with it.
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
OR, you know, MAYBE its time to imagine a future with TWO complete tollways traversing Cook and Chicago, instead of one and a half or three quarters?
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 27, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
OR, you know, MAYBE its time to imagine a future with TWO complete tollways traversing Cook and Chicago, instead of one and a half or three quarters?
We've got to bypass all of your useless roads, right?
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 27, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
OR, you know, MAYBE its time to imagine a future with TWO complete tollways traversing Cook and Chicago, instead of one and a half or three quarters?
How about a future where the hypotenuse stays in the fictional section instead of straying into unrelated threads?
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 27, 2016, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 27, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
OR, you know, MAYBE its time to imagine a future with TWO complete tollways traversing Cook and Chicago, instead of one and a half or three quarters?
How about a future where the hypotenuse stays in the fictional section instead of straying into unrelated threads?
Or a future in which they ban this assclown?
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 27, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on June 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 11, 2016, 01:53:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the state line
And I-90 is gonna continue to SUCK from O'hare to the other state line. Maybe a building? Another bridge? A geometric shift.
Or, you know, take the Tri-State instead.
OR, you know, MAYBE its time to imagine a future with TWO complete tollways traversing Cook and Chicago, instead of one and a half or three quarters?
Gotta get that hyp mention in every Chicagoland thread :pan: :pan: :pan:
Not every. The relevant ones. Hey, the maps dont lie.
Before, and present day and the foreseeable future. :rofl:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8337329,-87.7319639,11z
http://distancescalculator.com/calculate?from=IKEA+Schaumburg%2C+Schaumburg%2C+IL%2C+United+States&to=Gary%2C+IN%2C+United+States
After? some decade or two away. "Show where your going, without forgetting where your from"?? We wont soon forget what is faced daily.
http://imgur.com/E6RD2Co :cheers:
If the engineers think we are $2T behind in infrastructure spending, a good part of 10% ($200B) needs to be spent around here in the coming decades. This wouldnt hurt a bit.
And this is a "ROADS" forum? Not a hockey fanboi one that we are perpetually reminded of with your usual inanity.
I have a good feeling he just copies and pastes this in any thread. It's an awful idea, it will just make the interchange at I-88, 290, 294 even more hell than it already is. Cutting right through neighborhoods.
Let's get back on topic, enough of this hypo shit
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 29, 2016, 10:36:46 PM
And this is a "ROADS" forum? Not a hockey fanboi one that we are perpetually reminded of with your usual inanity.
And this is a "ROADS" forum? Not a hypotenuse fanboi one that we are perpetually reminded of with your usual inanity.
Fixed that for you.
To what extent has the {edit: DESPLAINES} Oasis been gutted to provide the groundwork for the I-490 interchange? How is that coming along?
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 29, 2016, 10:36:46 PM
http://distancescalculator.com/calculate?from=IKEA+Schaumburg%2C+Schaumburg%2C+IL%2C+United+States&to=Gary%2C+IN%2C+United+States
Wow, that's practically moving at the limit. Around here it often takes an hour to drive I-5 from milepost 163 to milepost 168.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
To what extent has the O'Hare Oasis been gutted to provide the groundwork for the I-490 interchange? How is that coming along?
The O'Hare Oasis is fully intact. It's the Des Plaines Oasis that's been removed for both the O'Hare Western Bypass interchange and the Northwest Tollway widening. That oasis is down to the two gas stations (one per side) only.
Quote from: Brandon on June 30, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
To what extent has the O'Hare Oasis been gutted to provide the groundwork for the I-490 interchange? How is that coming along?
The O'Hare Oasis is fully intact. It's the Des Plaines Oasis that's been removed for both the O'Hare Western Bypass interchange and the Northwest Tollway widening. That oasis is down to the two gas stations (one per side) only.
Derp. Sorry I meant the Des Plaines Oasis (edited previous post). Those gas stations are being removed soon too, right? I'm jw how much will be done for that interchange as part of the current construction
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 30, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
To what extent has the O'Hare Oasis been gutted to provide the groundwork for the I-490 interchange? How is that coming along?
The O'Hare Oasis is fully intact. It's the Des Plaines Oasis that's been removed for both the O'Hare Western Bypass interchange and the Northwest Tollway widening. That oasis is down to the two gas stations (one per side) only.
Derp. Sorry I meant the Des Plaines Oasis (edited previous post). Those gas stations are being removed soon too, right? I'm jw how much will be done for that interchange as part of the current construction
The DP oasis deconstruction and the Elmhurst road DD interchange were part of the long term for the EOWA. Have a feeling those gas stations will stay until they begin the I-490/90 interchange.
Quote from: ET21 on July 01, 2016, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 30, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
To what extent has the O'Hare Oasis been gutted to provide the groundwork for the I-490 interchange? How is that coming along?
The O'Hare Oasis is fully intact. It's the Des Plaines Oasis that's been removed for both the O'Hare Western Bypass interchange and the Northwest Tollway widening. That oasis is down to the two gas stations (one per side) only.
Derp. Sorry I meant the Des Plaines Oasis (edited previous post). Those gas stations are being removed soon too, right? I'm jw how much will be done for that interchange as part of the current construction
The DP oasis deconstruction and the Elmhurst road DD interchange were part of the long term for the EOWA. Have a feeling those gas stations will stay until they begin the I-490/90 interchange.
I'm surprised they aren't going ahead and removing the gas stations now. If you're going to demolish the Oasis, might as well do the whole thing at once.
Heck, I'm surprised they aren't building the West Bypass (I-490) first, then the IL-390 extension. Conventional wisdom would suggest building I-490 first so the IL-390 extension isn't a "road to nowhere". Plus, if they did that, then they'd HAVE to tear down the Des Plaines Oasis gas stations.
Just drove this yesterday, progress being made but I sat for 30 minutes trying to get onto WB I90 from 53 north.......I always knew it was bad and sat in the backup a few times before, but even with the improved merge zone the backup is still horrible. I also noticed the ramp from I90 east to 290 after the toll booth is merged over to the left shoulder, wondering if they are going to add another lane so that it's a 2 lane merge into 290, that would greatly reduce traffic jams.
Quote from: quickshade on July 01, 2016, 03:49:01 PM
Just drove this yesterday, progress being made but I sat for 30 minutes trying to get onto WB I90 from 53 north.......I always knew it was bad and sat in the backup a few times before, but even with the improved merge zone the backup is still horrible. I also noticed the ramp from I90 east to 290 after the toll booth is merged over to the left shoulder, wondering if they are going to add another lane so that it's a 2 lane merge into 290, that would greatly reduce traffic jams.
can use an aux lane over golf
Quote from: I-39 on July 01, 2016, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: ET21 on July 01, 2016, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 30, 2016, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
To what extent has the O'Hare Oasis been gutted to provide the groundwork for the I-490 interchange? How is that coming along?
The O'Hare Oasis is fully intact. It's the Des Plaines Oasis that's been removed for both the O'Hare Western Bypass interchange and the Northwest Tollway widening. That oasis is down to the two gas stations (one per side) only.
Derp. Sorry I meant the Des Plaines Oasis (edited previous post). Those gas stations are being removed soon too, right? I'm jw how much will be done for that interchange as part of the current construction
The DP oasis deconstruction and the Elmhurst road DD interchange were part of the long term for the EOWA. Have a feeling those gas stations will stay until they begin the I-490/90 interchange.
I'm surprised they aren't going ahead and removing the gas stations now. If you're going to demolish the Oasis, might as well do the whole thing at once.
Heck, I'm surprised they aren't building the West Bypass (I-490) first, then the IL-390 extension. Conventional wisdom would suggest building I-490 first so the IL-390 extension isn't a "road to nowhere". Plus, if they did that, then they'd HAVE to tear down the Des Plaines Oasis gas stations.
That area has a lot of trucks and the part to IL-83 can help. Right now the ramps from I-90 to I-294 do what the West bypass will due now it needs to have the same price for full ride as the Devon Ave and Irving Park Rd ones.
Quote from: kkt on June 30, 2016, 12:17:16 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on June 29, 2016, 10:36:46 PM
http://distancescalculator.com/calculate?from=IKEA+Schaumburg%2C+Schaumburg%2C+IL%2C+United+States&to=Gary%2C+IN%2C+United+States
Wow, that's practically moving at the limit. Around here it often takes an hour to drive I-5 from milepost 163 to milepost 168.
Id bet the hour and 9 minutes happens well after sunset till just before dawn.
"It's an awful idea, it will just make the interchange at I-88, 290, 294 even more hell than it already is. Cutting right through neighborhoods."
NO, actually a flyover or two over the Tri-state, jumping the Strangler to a new "connector". No more four roads (++?) into one, now four into two. The Strangler is going to continue to worsen regardless until "something" is done to make it better.
Minimal "cutting right through neighborhoods". Two miles through (and adjacent to) mostly abandoned Englewood, and another two adjacent to neighborhoods from Berwyn to Westchester. The other twelve are over rail ROW or industrial. Numerous details here.... https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16790.0
Gotta do something as this West I-90 tollway topic is finished, devolving into oasis, gas station, light bulbs, landscaping and road signs. And yes, "I-90 is gonna be so nice from O'Hare to the (WI) state line." The IN state line?? :rofl:
It seems by now that generally all the traffic has been moved off the old pavement lanes and that most of the old pavement has mostly been torn up by now. However, there are some places I'm having a hard time seeing this all get done by end of the year, not to try to be pessimistic. For example, the Barrington Road Interchange seems to have a ways to go. Despite the fact that the new bridge itself is finished, the ramps seem nowhere near finished, and Barrington Road itself has a long ways to go to be ready for its final configuration. I can give other examples, but I am wondering if anyone has insight as to whether any parts of the construction might be delayed into next year other than the WB onramp from Roselle/Central Rd.?
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 02, 2016, 11:48:24 PM
It seems by now that generally all the traffic has been moved off the old pavement lanes and that most of the old pavement has mostly been torn up by now. However, there are some places I'm having a hard time seeing this all get done by end of the year, not to try to be pessimistic. For example, the Barrington Road Interchange seems to have a ways to go. Despite the fact that the new bridge itself is finished, the ramps seem nowhere near finished, and Barrington Road itself has a long ways to go to be ready for its final configuration. I can give other examples, but I am wondering if anyone has insight as to whether any parts of the construction might be delayed into next year other than the WB onramp from Roselle/Central Rd.?
Mainline 90 will be finished by the end of the year, some minor shoulder work and landscaping may be done in the spring depending on weather and other factors. The inside lanes will be much faster than the outside lines because it's mostly ripping up the old road, putting down the new base and paving it. Unlike last year where they were adding lanes and redoing infrastructure to make room for 90. I recall seeing a spec sheet from the tollway that Barrington road exit was not going to be finished until summer 2017 but in looking at the live images a lot of the work is moving along pretty fast. In driving it last week it seems a lot of sections are getting the sub base leveled and blacktop laid for the concrete to be poured. I'll see if I can find the spec sheet on the Barrington road info.
Quote from: quickshade on July 03, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 02, 2016, 11:48:24 PM
It seems by now that generally all the traffic has been moved off the old pavement lanes and that most of the old pavement has mostly been torn up by now. However, there are some places I'm having a hard time seeing this all get done by end of the year, not to try to be pessimistic. For example, the Barrington Road Interchange seems to have a ways to go. Despite the fact that the new bridge itself is finished, the ramps seem nowhere near finished, and Barrington Road itself has a long ways to go to be ready for its final configuration. I can give other examples, but I am wondering if anyone has insight as to whether any parts of the construction might be delayed into next year other than the WB onramp from Roselle/Central Rd.?
Mainline 90 will be finished by the end of the year, some minor shoulder work and landscaping may be done in the spring depending on weather and other factors. The inside lanes will be much faster than the outside lines because it's mostly ripping up the old road, putting down the new base and paving it. Unlike last year where they were adding lanes and redoing infrastructure to make room for 90. I recall seeing a spec sheet from the tollway that Barrington road exit was not going to be finished until summer 2017 but in looking at the live images a lot of the work is moving along pretty fast. In driving it last week it seems a lot of sections are getting the sub base leveled and blacktop laid for the concrete to be poured. I'll see if I can find the spec sheet on the Barrington road info.
Thanks for the info. I would love see that spec sheet if you could find it. It would make sense that Barrington Road Interchange may take until 2017, just based on the progress I am seeing there.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 04, 2016, 12:44:10 AM
Quote from: quickshade on July 03, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 02, 2016, 11:48:24 PM
It seems by now that generally all the traffic has been moved off the old pavement lanes and that most of the old pavement has mostly been torn up by now. However, there are some places I'm having a hard time seeing this all get done by end of the year, not to try to be pessimistic. For example, the Barrington Road Interchange seems to have a ways to go. Despite the fact that the new bridge itself is finished, the ramps seem nowhere near finished, and Barrington Road itself has a long ways to go to be ready for its final configuration. I can give other examples, but I am wondering if anyone has insight as to whether any parts of the construction might be delayed into next year other than the WB onramp from Roselle/Central Rd.?
Mainline 90 will be finished by the end of the year, some minor shoulder work and landscaping may be done in the spring depending on weather and other factors. The inside lanes will be much faster than the outside lines because it's mostly ripping up the old road, putting down the new base and paving it. Unlike last year where they were adding lanes and redoing infrastructure to make room for 90. I recall seeing a spec sheet from the tollway that Barrington road exit was not going to be finished until summer 2017 but in looking at the live images a lot of the work is moving along pretty fast. In driving it last week it seems a lot of sections are getting the sub base leveled and blacktop laid for the concrete to be poured. I'll see if I can find the spec sheet on the Barrington road info.
Thanks for the info. I would love see that spec sheet if you could find it. It would make sense that Barrington Road Interchange may take until 2017, just based on the progress I am seeing there.
The sheet is no longer online, I have an email into them for an update, will post when I hear back.
Info for the I-90 project to refresh memories.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/construction-and-planning/projects-by-roadway/jane-addams-memorial-tollway-i-90
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 05, 2016, 05:46:49 PM
Info for the I-90 project to refresh memories.
http://www.illinoistollway.com/construction-and-planning/projects-by-roadway/jane-addams-memorial-tollway-i-90
Thank you the link. However, what I have found to be missing from the site are mentions of any delays at any of the interchanges (for example, Roselle Rd. WB onramp). Very little seems to be mentioned about the delay items.
The Tollway website is not good for the traffic times. I use this most.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic/
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 06, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
The Tollway website is not good for the traffic times. I use this most.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic/
I don't think that's what the poster was referring to. He was referring to the delays with the construction work, not traffic delays.
tribar, lol probably so. But I gave the source anyway.
Quote from: tribar on July 06, 2016, 06:22:04 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on July 06, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
The Tollway website is not good for the traffic times. I use this most.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic/
I don't think that's what the poster was referring to. He was referring to the delays with the construction work, not traffic delays.
Correct, I meant construction delays. If I was looking for traffic delays, I can use Google Maps for that! Thanks anyway. That said, I finally drove the entire Western segment to Rockford, and it is amazing how improved it is. Also amazing is how much busy it seemed even with the extra lane. I still wonder how traffic moved at all before the extra lane! Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 06, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Yes, the IL-23 overpass will be replaced next year with a wider structure for future ramps. I'm not sure if the ramps will be constructed at the same time (as of today, there is no contract in the schedule to construct ramps at the IL-23 overpass). I've heard from some sources they will construct the full interchange, but I'm not 100% sure.
Quote from: I-39 on July 07, 2016, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 06, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Yes, the IL-23 overpass will be replaced next year with a wider structure for future ramps. I'm not sure if the ramps will be constructed at the same time (as of today, there is no contract in the schedule to construct ramps at the IL-23 overpass). I've heard from some sources they will construct the full interchange, but I'm not 100% sure.
I always thought that 23 should have had an interchange years ago.
Quote from: I-39 on July 07, 2016, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 06, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Yes, the IL-23 overpass will be replaced next year with a wider structure for future ramps. I'm not sure if the ramps will be constructed at the same time (as of today, there is no contract in the schedule to construct ramps at the IL-23 overpass). I've heard from some sources they will construct the full interchange, but I'm not 100% sure.
The interchange is in the five year plan for the county. They are still trying to get things squared away to build it all at the same time but are still working on funding and finalizing the engineering specs. I would guess that if it doesn't happen next year with the rebuild it will happen in 2018.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 06, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Correct, I meant construction delays. If I was looking for traffic delays, I can use Google Maps for that! Thanks anyway. That said, I finally drove the entire Western segment to Rockford, and it is amazing how improved it is. Also amazing is how much busy it seemed even with the extra lane. I still wonder how traffic moved at all before the extra lane! Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Still a 65 zone right?
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 07, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 06, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Correct, I meant construction delays. If I was looking for traffic delays, I can use Google Maps for that! Thanks anyway. That said, I finally drove the entire Western segment to Rockford, and it is amazing how improved it is. Also amazing is how much busy it seemed even with the extra lane. I still wonder how traffic moved at all before the extra lane! Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Still a 65 zone right?
Yep, still posted at 65. Makes no sense as the speed limit goes UP once you're in Rockford. This easily should be 70. I'm also hoping the section East of Elgin is put up to 65 at least to I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 07, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 07, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on July 06, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Correct, I meant construction delays. If I was looking for traffic delays, I can use Google Maps for that! Thanks anyway. That said, I finally drove the entire Western segment to Rockford, and it is amazing how improved it is. Also amazing is how much busy it seemed even with the extra lane. I still wonder how traffic moved at all before the extra lane! Just a question, and if this was answered before, let me know, but I assume the reason the IL Route 23 overpass hasn't been upgraded yet is because they're planning to add an interchange within the next year or two, correct?
Still a 65 zone right?
Yep, still posted at 65. Makes no sense as the speed limit goes UP once you're in Rockford. This easily should be 70. I'm also hoping the section East of Elgin is put up to 65 at least to I-290/IL 53.
They did say they were going to make the western segment of 90 a 70 zone some time this summer. But knowing how the tollway operates I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a 65 by Labor Day.
Quote from: quickshade on June 16, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356 (http://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/10157/89286747-7bf8-4f19-b377-1eff052d8356)
Looks like the smart road installation will begin next week. The whole system should be finished with general construction this fall, and after testing it should come online in early 2017.
Came across this video uploaded from 2014 on the Illinois Tollway youtube channel showing a computer rendering of ATM on I-90 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLa0GppwAA
Drove 90 this weekend. Lots of progress being made. The bridge of 31 got the concrete deck poured and the fox river bridge looks almost done besides the approach areas, and the river trail bridge is being put in. Most of the areas have the base subsurface down, but there is still an area between Barrington road and the 290/53 interchange that needs work. Several sections have both inner lanes poured and are working on the divider and shoulders. Although I did notice one of the new outer sections has sunk and created a dip in the pavement, Which means the whole section will need to be ripped up and replaced.
The Barrington road interchange looks behind, none of the new ramps have been poured besides a partial section at the i90 west exit. I'm starting to wonder if this will be finished. The exit from i90 east to 290 is under construction at the toll booth. Most of the work looks like drainage work but I'm wondering if they are expanding the lanes after the tollbooth to two lanes merging onto 53/290 local so that it does not back up anymore. It looks like they are from what I saw driving through there but I don't see any documentation on it.
Overall a lot of the work looks to be finished by the fall but I'm starting to think the whole project won't be finished and that some sections will need more work come spring.
Quote from: quickshade on August 07, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
The Barrington road interchange looks behind, none of the new ramps have been poured besides a partial section at the i90 west exit. I'm starting to wonder if this will be finished. The exit from i90 east to 290 is under construction at the toll booth. Most of the work looks like drainage work but I'm wondering if they are expanding the lanes after the tollbooth to two lanes merging onto 53/290 local so that it does not back up anymore. It looks like they are from what I saw driving through there but I don't see any documentation on it.
I cannot recall the source, but I certainly believe the ramp from EB I-90 to EB I-290 is unfortunately staying almost exactly the same as it was prior to construction. I think part of the reason for not widening the ramp to be completely two lanes is the issue with dropping the second ramp lane - it would probably require modifications to the C-D roadway for EB I-290, and getting into needing FHWA approval. One of the improvements that should have been made IMHO would have been to redo the tolling along that stretch of I-90, and remove the toll plaza from that ramp and the ramp from EB I-90 to NB IL 53. Since the entrances to EB I-90 from Roselle Road and Barrington Road are going to be tolled, this would have only required adding toll plazas to the entrances from Beverly Road and IL 59.
Quote from: quickshade on August 07, 2016, 10:26:07 AMOverall a lot of the work looks to be finished by the fall but I'm starting to think the whole project won't be finished and that some sections will need more work come spring.
I think, assuming we don't get a lot of rainy weather, the contractors will at least get all of the mainline pavement down and opened with temporary striping for the winter, but they will be back putting down permanent striping and final clean up in the spring. The new ramps at Meacham will probably be opened (I would guess shortly before Thanksgiving) and the new EB exit to Roselle will probably be opened before the end of the year. I would agree that completion of the Barrington Road interchange before the end of the year is questionable, and I also have some questions if the Elmhurst Road DDI will make it as well (but would put more faith in the Elmhurst DDI opening before the Barrington SPUI).
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 07, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: quickshade on August 07, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
The Barrington road interchange looks behind, none of the new ramps have been poured besides a partial section at the i90 west exit. I'm starting to wonder if this will be finished. The exit from i90 east to 290 is under construction at the toll booth. Most of the work looks like drainage work but I'm wondering if they are expanding the lanes after the tollbooth to two lanes merging onto 53/290 local so that it does not back up anymore. It looks like they are from what I saw driving through there but I don't see any documentation on it.
I cannot recall the source, but I certainly believe the ramp from EB I-90 to EB I-290 is unfortunately staying almost exactly the same as it was prior to construction. I think part of the reason for not widening the ramp to be completely two lanes is the issue with dropping the second ramp lane - it would probably require modifications to the C-D roadway for EB I-290, and getting into needing FHWA approval. One of the improvements that should have been made IMHO would have been to redo the tolling along that stretch of I-90, and remove the toll plaza from that ramp and the ramp from EB I-90 to NB IL 53. Since the entrances to EB I-90 from Roselle Road and Barrington Road are going to be tolled, this would have only required adding toll plazas to the entrances from Beverly Road and IL 59.
I was thinking the same thing. IMO, no Interstate to Interstate (or freeway to freeway) interchange should have toll plazas, it just slows down traffic.
I really don't understand what the thinking is behind the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange. I understand since I-290/IL-53 is a free road, any improvements would require FHWA approval, but they were planning on addressing it a decade ago in the proposed Congestion-Relief Program II (along with the I-294/I-57 interchange). However, when Move Illinois came along, it wasn't included. Additionally, it looks like that the new Meacham Road bridge was not constructed with future improvements to the interchange in mind, since the bridges (including the new one for the ramp NB I-290/SB IL-53 to WB I-90) don't seem to be wide enough to accommodate future widening that will be needed when free flow ramps are constructed.
You can rebuild and add all the lanes on I-90 you want, but there is still going to be congestion at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange because it's not a proper design for the amount of traffic it carries. It will have to be addressed at some point, probably in the not too distant future, and the longer they wait, the more $$$ it will cost.
Quote from: quickshade on August 07, 2016, 10:26:07 AMOverall a lot of the work looks to be finished by the fall but I'm starting to think the whole project won't be finished and that some sections will need more work come spring.
I think, assuming we don't get a lot of rainy weather, the contractors will at least get all of the mainline pavement down and opened with temporary striping for the winter, but they will be back putting down permanent striping and final clean up in the spring. The new ramps at Meacham will probably be opened (I would guess shortly before Thanksgiving) and the new EB exit to Roselle will probably be opened before the end of the year. I would agree that completion of the Barrington Road interchange before the end of the year is questionable, and I also have some questions if the Elmhurst Road DDI will make it as well (but would put more faith in the Elmhurst DDI opening before the Barrington SPUI).
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I'm pretty sure the Elmhurst DDI will be done, it doesn't appear they have much more to do. The WB entrance ramp at Roselle (via Central Road) wasn't going to be built until next year anyway. It appears significant portions of the mainline pavement are close to being done now. The only thing I think that will carry over into next year (that wasn't already planned) will be the Barrington Road SPUI (which is progressing at an absolute snail's pace for whatever reason).
I'm wondering if the amount of concrete usage on the project dictates priority pours for the day/week/month. If this would be true I'm sure mainline pouring and rebuilding existing ramps would be more important than new ramps. This would explain the Barrington road exits and Meachan road exit for I90 west not seeing any action for the past month or so.
As for the 290 stuff, one of the things I noticed is that the exit ramp to get onto 290 is much longer and the entrance ramp for 53 north onto 90 west is now much longer before merging onto mainline 90. That coupled with the new exit will reduce traffic slightly getting off onto 53 south. So it seems to me like the state IDOT didn't want to cough up any money to rebuild the interchange so they (Illinois tollway) designed it so that mainline 90 is not affected as much by the traffic at the interchange. Overall it sucks that it's a band aid on a majorly needed project but you can only do so much without help from the agency that controls the interchange.
Quote from: I-39 on August 07, 2016, 09:52:41 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 07, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
Quote from: quickshade on August 07, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
The Barrington road interchange looks behind, none of the new ramps have been poured besides a partial section at the i90 west exit. I'm starting to wonder if this will be finished. The exit from i90 east to 290 is under construction at the toll booth. Most of the work looks like drainage work but I'm wondering if they are expanding the lanes after the tollbooth to two lanes merging onto 53/290 local so that it does not back up anymore. It looks like they are from what I saw driving through there but I don't see any documentation on it.
I cannot recall the source, but I certainly believe the ramp from EB I-90 to EB I-290 is unfortunately staying almost exactly the same as it was prior to construction. I think part of the reason for not widening the ramp to be completely two lanes is the issue with dropping the second ramp lane - it would probably require modifications to the C-D roadway for EB I-290, and getting into needing FHWA approval. One of the improvements that should have been made IMHO would have been to redo the tolling along that stretch of I-90, and remove the toll plaza from that ramp and the ramp from EB I-90 to NB IL 53. Since the entrances to EB I-90 from Roselle Road and Barrington Road are going to be tolled, this would have only required adding toll plazas to the entrances from Beverly Road and IL 59.
I was thinking the same thing. IMO, no Interstate to Interstate (or freeway to freeway) interchange should have toll plazas, it just slows down traffic.
I really don't understand what the thinking is behind the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange. I understand since I-290/IL-53 is a free road, any improvements would require FHWA approval, but they were planning on addressing it a decade ago in the proposed Congestion-Relief Program II (along with the I-294/I-57 interchange). However, when Move Illinois came along, it wasn't included. Additionally, it looks like that the new Meacham Road bridge was not constructed with future improvements to the interchange in mind, since the bridges (including the new one for the ramp NB I-290/SB IL-53 to WB I-90) don't seem to be wide enough to accommodate future widening that will be needed when free flow ramps are constructed.
You can rebuild and add all the lanes on I-90 you want, but there is still going to be congestion at the I-90/I-290/IL-53 system interchange because it's not a proper design for the amount of traffic it carries. It will have to be addressed at some point, probably in the not too distant future, and the longer they wait, the more $$$ it will cost.
Quote from: quickshade on August 07, 2016, 10:26:07 AMOverall a lot of the work looks to be finished by the fall but I'm starting to think the whole project won't be finished and that some sections will need more work come spring.
I think, assuming we don't get a lot of rainy weather, the contractors will at least get all of the mainline pavement down and opened with temporary striping for the winter, but they will be back putting down permanent striping and final clean up in the spring. The new ramps at Meacham will probably be opened (I would guess shortly before Thanksgiving) and the new EB exit to Roselle will probably be opened before the end of the year. I would agree that completion of the Barrington Road interchange before the end of the year is questionable, and I also have some questions if the Elmhurst Road DDI will make it as well (but would put more faith in the Elmhurst DDI opening before the Barrington SPUI).
I'm pretty sure the Elmhurst DDI will be done, it doesn't appear they have much more to do. The WB entrance ramp at Roselle (via Central Road) wasn't going to be built until next year anyway. It appears significant portions of the mainline pavement are close to being done now. The only thing I think that will carry over into next year (that wasn't already planned) will be the Barrington Road SPUI (which is progressing at an absolute snail's pace for whatever reason).
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Just saw the attached article, and it looks like the Elmhurst Road interchange is on pace to be opened in December.
http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_23c5b334-5d80-11e6-ae37-e312f487ef40.html
I'm sure it was mentioned earlier here (too tired to find the exact post), but do you guys think they'll build a beginning portion of the eventual I-490 interchange or at least set up the land to accommodate the eventual ramp structures? I just find it redundant to build a brand new highway just to tear it up again in a couple years to build the I-90/490 interchange.
Then again it's Illinois so I won't hold my breath... :-|
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
I'm sure it was mentioned earlier here (too tired to find the exact post), but do you guys think they'll build a beginning portion of the eventual I-490 interchange or at least set up the land to accommodate the eventual ramp structures? I just find it redundant to build a brand new highway just to tear it up again in a couple years to build the I-90/490 interchange.
Then again it's Illinois so I won't hold my breath... :-|
Being ISTHA, I suspect it will be built. If it were IDOT, I wouldn't hold my breath for anything.
Quote from: Brandon on August 12, 2016, 06:27:44 AM
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
I'm sure it was mentioned earlier here (too tired to find the exact post), but do you guys think they'll build a beginning portion of the eventual I-490 interchange or at least set up the land to accommodate the eventual ramp structures? I just find it redundant to build a brand new highway just to tear it up again in a couple years to build the I-90/490 interchange.
Then again it's Illinois so I won't hold my breath... :-|
Being ISTHA, I suspect it will be built. If it were IDOT, I wouldn't hold my breath for anything.
I'm not too sure how much they're going to be able to do at the moment. The Des Plaines Oasis basically sits right where the new interchange will go. I think the plan is a multi-part process. Fiest, which is now done, was to tear down the over-the-highway structure, but leave the gas stations in each direction. I do believe that the gas stations will be torn out when construction on the actual interchange begins. I'd have to go find the notes or post, but I'm pretty sure this is the plan.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 12, 2016, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 12, 2016, 06:27:44 AM
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
I'm sure it was mentioned earlier here (too tired to find the exact post), but do you guys think they'll build a beginning portion of the eventual I-490 interchange or at least set up the land to accommodate the eventual ramp structures? I just find it redundant to build a brand new highway just to tear it up again in a couple years to build the I-90/490 interchange.
Then again it's Illinois so I won't hold my breath... :-|
Being ISTHA, I suspect it will be built. If it were IDOT, I wouldn't hold my breath for anything.
I'm not too sure how much they're going to be able to do at the moment. The Des Plaines Oasis basically sits right where the new interchange will go. I think the plan is a multi-part process. Fiest, which is now done, was to tear down the over-the-highway structure, but leave the gas stations in each direction. I do believe that the gas stations will be torn out when construction on the actual interchange begins. I'd have to go find the notes or post, but I'm pretty sure this is the plan.
Yes, the gas stations will go when the O'Hare West Bypass is built, but the interchange with I-90 will be one of the last things done, IIRC.
Not really sure why they aren't building the West Bypass first, it would have made more sense to do so so IL-390 doesn't dead end into another arterial.
Quote from: I-39 on August 12, 2016, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on August 12, 2016, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 12, 2016, 06:27:44 AM
Quote from: ET21 on August 11, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
I'm sure it was mentioned earlier here (too tired to find the exact post), but do you guys think they'll build a beginning portion of the eventual I-490 interchange or at least set up the land to accommodate the eventual ramp structures? I just find it redundant to build a brand new highway just to tear it up again in a couple years to build the I-90/490 interchange.
Then again it's Illinois so I won't hold my breath... :-|
Being ISTHA, I suspect it will be built. If it were IDOT, I wouldn't hold my breath for anything.
I'm not too sure how much they're going to be able to do at the moment. The Des Plaines Oasis basically sits right where the new interchange will go. I think the plan is a multi-part process. Fiest, which is now done, was to tear down the over-the-highway structure, but leave the gas stations in each direction. I do believe that the gas stations will be torn out when construction on the actual interchange begins. I'd have to go find the notes or post, but I'm pretty sure this is the plan.
Yes, the gas stations will go when the O'Hare West Bypass is built, but the interchange with I-90 will be one of the last things done, IIRC.
Not really sure why they aren't building the West Bypass first, it would have made more sense to do so so IL-390 doesn't dead end into another arterial.
Well the non build of the west terminal may of changed time tables.
Quote from: I-39 on August 12, 2016, 07:34:14 PM
Not really sure why they aren't building the West Bypass first, it would have made more sense to do so so IL-390 doesn't dead end into another arterial.
IL 390 will be ending at IL 83 for a little while, which is a major six lane arterial of higher quality than Thorndale or US 20. There's probably also some factor based on the traffic IL 390 would feed into the West Bypass. Without IL 390, the West Bypass is pretty much a pricier pair of ramps between I-294 and I-90 that is already competing with a free I-290.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 12, 2016, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: I-39 on August 12, 2016, 07:34:14 PM
Not really sure why they aren't building the West Bypass first, it would have made more sense to do so so IL-390 doesn't dead end into another arterial.
IL 390 will be ending at IL 83 for a little while, which is a major six lane arterial of higher quality than Thorndale or US 20. There's probably also some factor based on the traffic IL 390 would feed into the West Bypass. Without IL 390, the West Bypass is pretty much a pricier pair of ramps between I-294 and I-90 that is already competing with a free I-290.
The I-290 to I-294 ramps suck. Also the I-90 to I-290 ones are bad at times as well. And I-290 has the I-355 and eoe traffic on it.
http://www.nwherald.com/2016/08/19/go-ahead-for-i-90-interchange-in-marengo-headed-toward-a-county-board-vote/ajssddl/?page=1 (http://www.nwherald.com/2016/08/19/go-ahead-for-i-90-interchange-in-marengo-headed-toward-a-county-board-vote/ajssddl/?page=1)
Pending the final decision by the board on sept 6th which looks to approve it the interchange is a go. Next year the overpass will be rebuilt (no matter the decision by the board) and the ramps will be rebuilt in 2018. They really like to cite the fact that McHenry county is the largest by population without direct access to an interstate.
Quote from: quickshade on August 20, 2016, 02:08:44 PM
http://www.nwherald.com/2016/08/19/go-ahead-for-i-90-interchange-in-marengo-headed-toward-a-county-board-vote/ajssddl/?page=1 (http://www.nwherald.com/2016/08/19/go-ahead-for-i-90-interchange-in-marengo-headed-toward-a-county-board-vote/ajssddl/?page=1)
Pending the final decision by the board on sept 6th which looks to approve it the interchange is a go. Next year the overpass will be rebuilt (no matter the decision by the board) and the ramps will be rebuilt in 2018. They really like to cite the fact that McHenry county is the largest by population without direct access to an interstate.
It's about time! My grandparents live in Marengo, and we have to get off onto U.S. 20 to Marengo. This interchange is badly needed, and it will be a nice change for McHenry County, the city of Marengo, and of course, me!
It seems that East of the I-290/IL 53 Interchange that I-90 is generally starting to take shape (especially the pavement and lighting installed down the middle), and it looks like a safe bet that most of it will be done and ready to be opened within the next couple months. I wonder if it's possible the 4th lane in each direction and all pavement opens on this stretch before the portion West of I-290/IL 53.
Interesting article.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160815/news/160819486/
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Tollway's 'mother ship' chews up concrete, spits out savings on I-90
Marni Pyke
posted: 8/15/2016 5:30 AM
Inching along on the Jane Addams Tollway in construction land, two questions arise.
Which movie dystopia is the dusty landscape dotted with hills of rubble more reminiscent of -- the gritty highways of "Mad Max" or the decimated District 13 in "The Hunger Games?" And what are those piles of rock for, anyway?
The first question is a matter of opinion, but here's the answer to the second.
The massive widening and rebuild of the Jane Addams (I-90) is winding up this year. And in a sense, the road is building itself.
"Our efforts are focused on minimizing the environmental impacts associated with our road building," tollway Chief Engineer Paul Kovacs said.
That means recycling and reusing the existing concrete and asphalt as a base material for the new road bed with the help of some nifty equipment.
The star of the show is the "mother ship," or mobile crusher, a huge and ungainly machine.
"It's a unique and fantastic way of keeping the existing materials on site and turning them into the proper size so they can be reused again," Kovacs said.
The tollway builds its roads with concrete and uses asphalt for shoulders and resurfacing. Workers start by breaking up the existing pavement into large chunks. The material then is mounded separately in the rows familiar to I-90 drivers.
Enter the mother ship.
Mile by mile as the roadwork moves east, a backhoe loads the pieces of concrete into the mobile crusher's feeder. They're pulverized into 4-by-6-inch chunks and whisked onto a conveyor belt that spits the finished product onto the road bed, making for a solid base.
A layer of recycled, ground-up asphalt follows later, then three inches of warm asphalt.
"After we have a stabilized base, we build a new concrete layer on top to create this ... sandwich," Kovacs said. "The new concrete pavement is typically 13 inches thick."
The tollway tailors the depth of concrete to the type of traffic, adding the thickest layer where truck traffic is heaviest, such as on the Central Tri-State Tollway.
The agency has used its I-90 rebuild as a laboratory to test mixing old asphalt shingles and pavement with new.
As a result, recycled asphalt comprises about one-third of the new asphalt laid on the mainline and about 50 percent of material used for the shoulder.
"It's environmentally a very good approach to road-building and it also has a very important component of saving us a lot of money," Kovacs said, adding the agency has saved about $200 million since 2006 by recycling and reusing.
"We don't have to buy the new materials, we don't have to haul in new materials and remove old materials, and we don't have to pay any (landfill) disposal fees."
One more thing
The final stretch of the Jane Addams revamp should wrap up at the end of the year. The I-90 project, costing $2.5 billion, is part of the agency's $12 billion, 15-year building program.
Also came across a picture from Aug. 12 on a facebook car spotting group of an ATM structure installed on I-90. Anyone who routinely drives the eastern segment of I-90, post pics if you can to keep us up to date of the changes. Thread is worthless without pics!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2wHsQqH.jpg&hash=19b7a27bea0ed7550e183b80103d69a8ddff8d43)
Also have a question. Is this how the surface will end up, or will they do a final 'smoothing' of the surface? Reason I ask is because to me the ride on there just wasn't as smooth as on the I-94 Tri State tollway, which is amazingly smooth (as in 85-90 mph feels like 65 mph) compared to other tollways like I-294. I guess rolling resistance is what I'm referring to. Or it could just be psychological due to the road being narrower and lacking shoulders during construction.
Quote from: bahnburner on August 27, 2016, 04:46:10 PM
Interesting article.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160815/news/160819486/
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Tollway's 'mother ship' chews up concrete, spits out savings on I-90
Marni Pyke
posted: 8/15/2016 5:30 AM
Inching along on the Jane Addams Tollway in construction land, two questions arise.
Which movie dystopia is the dusty landscape dotted with hills of rubble more reminiscent of -- the gritty highways of "Mad Max" or the decimated District 13 in "The Hunger Games?" And what are those piles of rock for, anyway?
The first question is a matter of opinion, but here's the answer to the second.
The massive widening and rebuild of the Jane Addams (I-90) is winding up this year. And in a sense, the road is building itself.
"Our efforts are focused on minimizing the environmental impacts associated with our road building," tollway Chief Engineer Paul Kovacs said.
That means recycling and reusing the existing concrete and asphalt as a base material for the new road bed with the help of some nifty equipment.
The star of the show is the "mother ship," or mobile crusher, a huge and ungainly machine.
"It's a unique and fantastic way of keeping the existing materials on site and turning them into the proper size so they can be reused again," Kovacs said.
The tollway builds its roads with concrete and uses asphalt for shoulders and resurfacing. Workers start by breaking up the existing pavement into large chunks. The material then is mounded separately in the rows familiar to I-90 drivers.
Enter the mother ship.
Mile by mile as the roadwork moves east, a backhoe loads the pieces of concrete into the mobile crusher's feeder. They're pulverized into 4-by-6-inch chunks and whisked onto a conveyor belt that spits the finished product onto the road bed, making for a solid base.
A layer of recycled, ground-up asphalt follows later, then three inches of warm asphalt.
"After we have a stabilized base, we build a new concrete layer on top to create this ... sandwich," Kovacs said. "The new concrete pavement is typically 13 inches thick."
The tollway tailors the depth of concrete to the type of traffic, adding the thickest layer where truck traffic is heaviest, such as on the Central Tri-State Tollway.
The agency has used its I-90 rebuild as a laboratory to test mixing old asphalt shingles and pavement with new.
As a result, recycled asphalt comprises about one-third of the new asphalt laid on the mainline and about 50 percent of material used for the shoulder.
"It's environmentally a very good approach to road-building and it also has a very important component of saving us a lot of money," Kovacs said, adding the agency has saved about $200 million since 2006 by recycling and reusing.
"We don't have to buy the new materials, we don't have to haul in new materials and remove old materials, and we don't have to pay any (landfill) disposal fees."
One more thing
The final stretch of the Jane Addams revamp should wrap up at the end of the year. The I-90 project, costing $2.5 billion, is part of the agency's $12 billion, 15-year building program.
Also came across a picture from Aug. 12 on a facebook car spotting group of an ATM structure installed on I-90. Anyone who routinely drives the eastern segment of I-90, post pics if you can to keep us up to date of the changes. Thread is worthless without pics!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2wHsQqH.jpg&hash=19b7a27bea0ed7550e183b80103d69a8ddff8d43)
Also have a question. Is this how the surface will end up, or will they do a final 'smoothing' of the surface? Reason I ask is because to me the ride on there just wasn't as smooth as on the I-94 Tri State tollway, which is amazingly smooth (as in 85-90 mph feels like 65 mph) compared to other tollways like I-294. I guess rolling resistance is what I'm referring to. Or it could just be psychological due to the road being narrower and lacking shoulders during construction.
also off center lanes in the work zone. Also it's kind of hard to take pics at 65-70 MPH.
Your off center from the lanes so that might be part of the problem. Also keep in mind the shoulder isn't for driving on (outside one) so that might be part of the problem.
I have a meeting next week closer to downtown, if I have time and can find some safe places to snap pictures i'll try to do that.
I think I-88 used the same recycling procedure when that was redone. Cool machines
http://www.nwherald.com/2016/09/06/mchenry-county-board-gives-ok-to-interstate-90-and-route-23-interchange/a9s260i/ (http://www.nwherald.com/2016/09/06/mchenry-county-board-gives-ok-to-interstate-90-and-route-23-interchange/a9s260i/)
Interchange was approved, will be out to bid later this fall, bridge will be rebuilt next year (2017) and ramps should be added the year after (2018).
Very nice!
Quote from: quickshade on September 07, 2016, 03:40:50 PM
http://www.nwherald.com/2016/09/06/mchenry-county-board-gives-ok-to-interstate-90-and-route-23-interchange/a9s260i/ (http://www.nwherald.com/2016/09/06/mchenry-county-board-gives-ok-to-interstate-90-and-route-23-interchange/a9s260i/)
Interchange was approved, will be out to bid later this fall, bridge will be rebuilt next year (2017) and ramps should be added the year after (2018).
YAY! Let's see which interchange options they'll choose!!
A few recent observations from a trip on WB I-90 near dusk:
* There are a few overhead sign structures with signs on them resting on the ground near the I-294 interchange - I think they will be installed over the EB lanes.
* It appears some of the ATM structures may have indications mounted over the right shoulder.
* There are a couple short stretches near Arlington Heights Road where traffic is shifted towards the median. It also appeared in these sections that traffic was using completed/post construction WB lanes, with permanent striping and reflectors installed.
* Some of the permanent overhead sign assemblies have been installed for the I-290/IL 53 interchange. A couple of the signs appear to be a variation on the arrow-per-lane design with a greened-out thru-right arrow and a right arrow - the sign structure did not include ahead arrows for all lanes of I-90. One of these sign structures also had a sign for the future exit to Meacham Road on it, with an orange closed banner diagonally across it.
Also of note, EB I90 from the Elgin toll plaza to just past the Fox River bridge is now shifted onto the new eastern lanes. Traffic is shifted to the far outside lanes and shoulder while crews finish the center median that approaches the bridge and after the bridge, once thats done and shoulder pavement is completed that section will be done.
Drove it this weekend and a lot of the mainline pavement is down, with the center median being a work in progress. There was still 2 or 3 areas though that looked nowhere near ready to even begin paving, but I did notice crews working till almost 8 P.M the other day on one of the live webcams.
I drove on this the other day and most of it looked no where close to being finished. A few areas (Arlington Heights Rd, Fox River Bridge) looked closer than others but overall I think this project will end up stretching into June or July of next year.
Quote from: tribar on September 30, 2016, 11:55:11 AM
I drove on this the other day and most of it looked no where close to being finished. A few areas (Arlington Heights Rd, Fox River Bridge) looked closer than others but overall I think this project will end up stretching into June or July of next year.
I drive this route everyday, most of the concrete is already poured, but there's a few sections left where concrete is yet to be poured.
I just see them working on finishing up the lights, putting up the smart technology signs, and finish painting the lanes.
I think they'll finish by the end of the year. They still have 3 more months left. ITHSA never had a projected finish date of the entire project by the end of the year. They stated that the 4 lane widening would be done at the end of the year, but the new interchanges would be wrapped up in 2017. The interchanges are no where near being done yet.
they plan to have some of the new ramps open by then end of the year.
There are currently two message boards on Meacham Road, one for each direction, giving the toll rates for the future ramps for WB I-90 (45 cents for I-Pass, 90 cents for paying online), and a message board on WB I-90 also giving the future toll rate. The message boards also mention November, but didn't specify an exact date or what half of the month.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 10, 2016, 08:47:10 PM
There are currently two message boards on Meacham Road, one for each direction, giving the toll rates for the future ramps for WB I-90 (45 cents for I-Pass, 90 cents for paying online), and a message board on WB I-90 also giving the future toll rate. The message boards also mention November, but didn't specify an exact date or what half of the month.
I drove the Meacham Road overpass yesterday, and it basically appears to be done. It looks like mainly there is some overall minor work at the end of the ramps that needs to finish, and traffic signal/remaining light pole installation, and this will basically be ready to go. This could very well be ready by the beginning of November, if they work at a decent pace.
Also, I have noticed that they pavement and toll gantry on the Eastbound Roselle Rd off-ramp appears to be coming together pretty well now. I would predict that should be ready by the end of November/Early December. I just get the feeling the Eastbound off-ramp at Barrington Rd. might be delayed (the new Eastbound on-ramp and Westbound off-ramps are just taking forever for some reason, and that loop is in the way of the new Eastbound off-ramp). However, the Westbound on-ramp looks like it may have a chance of being ready there. If they at least have those two by the end of the year, plus Meacham Rd, it will make a difference overall (in that the combination of Roselle Rd. and Barrington Rd. will essentially be a "full" interchange for the time being).
Quote from: ChiMilNet on October 10, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 10, 2016, 08:47:10 PM
There are currently two message boards on Meacham Road, one for each direction, giving the toll rates for the future ramps for WB I-90 (45 cents for I-Pass, 90 cents for paying online), and a message board on WB I-90 also giving the future toll rate. The message boards also mention November, but didn't specify an exact date or what half of the month.
I drove the Meacham Road overpass yesterday, and it basically appears to be done. It looks like mainly there is some overall minor work at the end of the ramps that needs to finish, and traffic signal/remaining light pole installation, and this will basically be ready to go. This could very well be ready by the beginning of November, if they work at a decent pace.
Also, I have noticed that they pavement and toll gantry on the Eastbound Roselle Rd off-ramp appears to be coming together pretty well now. I would predict that should be ready by the end of November/Early December. I just get the feeling the Eastbound off-ramp at Barrington Rd. might be delayed (the new Eastbound on-ramp and Westbound off-ramps are just taking forever for some reason, and that loop is in the way of the new Eastbound off-ramp). However, the Westbound on-ramp looks like it may have a chance of being ready there. If they at least have those two by the end of the year, plus Meacham Rd, it will make a difference overall (in that the combination of Roselle Rd. and Barrington Rd. will essentially be a "full" interchange for the time being).
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
Joe, I couldn't tell you that but I do think that the wise idea would be to have the 290 ramps be a full toll free interchange due to the frequent backups of the current ramps.
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 12, 2016, 07:10:46 AM
Joe, I couldn't tell you that but I do think that the wise idea would be to have the 290 ramps be a full toll free interchange due to the frequent backups of the current ramps.
But the tollbooth isn't the problem on the ramp, its that the ramp goes from 2 lanes to 4 lanes for the tollbooth down to a one lane merger, uphill, onto the local lanes of which many people are trying to exit. So getting rid of the tollbooth does nothing unless you expand the ramp to at least 2 lanes and change how you merge onto 290.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
It would be nice for them to remove the toll plaza from the EB exits to I-290 and IL 53, but they are not. The plaza for the exit to NB 53 was rebuilt as part of the widening project - if you look in the 2012 Streetview on the EB C-D roadway (link (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.057762,-88.031935,3a,75y,109.03h,77.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sv_WHJdhv98J-yI1HEN7RxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)) you can see the old plaza with a canopy, but the more recent aerial imagery shows the new plaza without the canopy.
Quote from: quickshade on October 12, 2016, 11:21:51 AM
But the tollbooth isn't the problem on the ramp, its that the ramp goes from 2 lanes to 4 lanes for the tollbooth down to a one lane merger, uphill, onto the local lanes of which many people are trying to exit. So getting rid of the tollbooth does nothing unless you expand the ramp to at least 2 lanes and change how you merge onto 290.
I
think part of the problem with the toll plaza on the ramp to EB I-290 is having large trucks having to stop in the cash lane, then very slowly accelerating up the one lane section of the ramp, so there might be some improvement if the plaza was removed.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on October 10, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 10, 2016, 08:47:10 PM
There are currently two message boards on Meacham Road, one for each direction, giving the toll rates for the future ramps for WB I-90 (45 cents for I-Pass, 90 cents for paying online), and a message board on WB I-90 also giving the future toll rate. The message boards also mention November, but didn't specify an exact date or what half of the month.
I drove the Meacham Road overpass yesterday, and it basically appears to be done. It looks like mainly there is some overall minor work at the end of the ramps that needs to finish, and traffic signal/remaining light pole installation, and this will basically be ready to go. This could very well be ready by the beginning of November, if they work at a decent pace.
Also, I have noticed that they pavement and toll gantry on the Eastbound Roselle Rd off-ramp appears to be coming together pretty well now. I would predict that should be ready by the end of November/Early December. I just get the feeling the Eastbound off-ramp at Barrington Rd. might be delayed (the new Eastbound on-ramp and Westbound off-ramps are just taking forever for some reason, and that loop is in the way of the new Eastbound off-ramp). However, the Westbound on-ramp looks like it may have a chance of being ready there. If they at least have those two by the end of the year, plus Meacham Rd, it will make a difference overall (in that the combination of Roselle Rd. and Barrington Rd. will essentially be a "full" interchange for the time being).
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on October 10, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 10, 2016, 08:47:10 PM
There are currently two message boards on Meacham Road, one for each direction, giving the toll rates for the future ramps for WB I-90 (45 cents for I-Pass, 90 cents for paying online), and a message board on WB I-90 also giving the future toll rate. The message boards also mention November, but didn't specify an exact date or what half of the month.
I drove the Meacham Road overpass yesterday, and it basically appears to be done. It looks like mainly there is some overall minor work at the end of the ramps that needs to finish, and traffic signal/remaining light pole installation, and this will basically be ready to go. This could very well be ready by the beginning of November, if they work at a decent pace.
Also, I have noticed that they pavement and toll gantry on the Eastbound Roselle Rd off-ramp appears to be coming together pretty well now. I would predict that should be ready by the end of November/Early December. I just get the feeling the Eastbound off-ramp at Barrington Rd. might be delayed (the new Eastbound on-ramp and Westbound off-ramps are just taking forever for some reason, and that loop is in the way of the new Eastbound off-ramp). However, the Westbound on-ramp looks like it may have a chance of being ready there. If they at least have those two by the end of the year, plus Meacham Rd, it will make a difference overall (in that the combination of Roselle Rd. and Barrington Rd. will essentially be a "full" interchange for the time being).
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
They need to toll the 59 ramps and beverly rd ramps and remove the ones at I-290 / IL-53 or redo the system like the EOE
Quote from: quickshade on October 12, 2016, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 12, 2016, 07:10:46 AM
Joe, I couldn't tell you that but I do think that the wise idea would be to have the 290 ramps be a full toll free interchange due to the frequent backups of the current ramps.
But the tollbooth isn't the problem on the ramp, its that the ramp goes from 2 lanes to 4 lanes for the tollbooth down to a one lane merger, uphill, onto the local lanes of which many people are trying to exit. So getting rid of the tollbooth does nothing unless you expand the ramp to at least 2 lanes and change how you merge onto 290.
Getting rid of the tollbooth on the 290 ramps eliminates the need for that kind of ramp configuration. So yes the issue does have to do with those plazas.
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 13, 2016, 06:42:06 AM
Quote from: quickshade on October 12, 2016, 11:21:51 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on October 12, 2016, 07:10:46 AM
Joe, I couldn't tell you that but I do think that the wise idea would be to have the 290 ramps be a full toll free interchange due to the frequent backups of the current ramps.
But the tollbooth isn't the problem on the ramp, its that the ramp goes from 2 lanes to 4 lanes for the tollbooth down to a one lane merger, uphill, onto the local lanes of which many people are trying to exit. So getting rid of the tollbooth does nothing unless you expand the ramp to at least 2 lanes and change how you merge onto 290.
Getting rid of the tollbooth on the 290 ramps eliminates the need for that kind of ramp configuration. So yes the issue does have to do with those plazas.
This.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 12, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on October 10, 2016, 10:25:03 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 10, 2016, 08:47:10 PM
There are currently two message boards on Meacham Road, one for each direction, giving the toll rates for the future ramps for WB I-90 (45 cents for I-Pass, 90 cents for paying online), and a message board on WB I-90 also giving the future toll rate. The message boards also mention November, but didn't specify an exact date or what half of the month.
I drove the Meacham Road overpass yesterday, and it basically appears to be done. It looks like mainly there is some overall minor work at the end of the ramps that needs to finish, and traffic signal/remaining light pole installation, and this will basically be ready to go. This could very well be ready by the beginning of November, if they work at a decent pace.
Also, I have noticed that they pavement and toll gantry on the Eastbound Roselle Rd off-ramp appears to be coming together pretty well now. I would predict that should be ready by the end of November/Early December. I just get the feeling the Eastbound off-ramp at Barrington Rd. might be delayed (the new Eastbound on-ramp and Westbound off-ramps are just taking forever for some reason, and that loop is in the way of the new Eastbound off-ramp). However, the Westbound on-ramp looks like it may have a chance of being ready there. If they at least have those two by the end of the year, plus Meacham Rd, it will make a difference overall (in that the combination of Roselle Rd. and Barrington Rd. will essentially be a "full" interchange for the time being).
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
They need to toll the 59 ramps and beverly rd ramps and remove the ones at I-290 / IL-53 or redo the system like the EOE
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Supposedly to help pay for the cost of rebuilding the Roselle and Barrington interchanges.
I think there will be some traffic that is currently using the EB entrances at Roselle and Barrington that will shift to the free entrances at IL 53/I-290 and IL 59, and am also curious to see how much traffic really uses the new WB ramps to/from Meacham, given the proximity of the free WB exits at I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 09:54:28 PM
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Is that any worse than how if I get on at Randall to go EB, I get to pay the mainline toll, then I get hit up with additional tolls to exit at IL 59 after only traveling ~6.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of $1.05)? Or if I get on at IL 25 I get asked for more tolls to exit after only ~2.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of 85 cents)? Now I don't feel quite as bad about the new tolls for EB at Roselle and Barrington.
Plus, for IL 59 you should be getting some benefit from traffic that used to turn onto IL 59 to access I-90 getting on elsewhere - the left turn arrow for WB IL 72 to SB IL 59 will probably not be up as long in the evenings once the WB entrance at Barrington opens.
Plus I've heard that a lot of the traffic entering from the Beverly Road entrance is actually traffic bypassing the tolled EB entrance at IL 25.
(Edited to fix incorrect toll amounts)
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2016, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Supposedly to help pay for the cost of rebuilding the Roselle and Barrington interchanges.
I think there will be some traffic that is currently using the EB entrances at Roselle and Barrington that will shift to the free entrances at IL 53/I-290 and IL 59, and am also curious to see how much traffic really uses the new WB ramps to/from Meacham, given the proximity of the free WB exits at I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 09:54:28 PM
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Is that any worse than how if I get on at Randall to go EB, I get to pay the mainline toll, then I get hit up with additional tolls to exit at IL 59 after only traveling ~6.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of $1.05)? Or if I get on at IL 25 I get asked for more tolls to exit after only ~2.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of 85 cents)? Now I don't feel quite as bad about the new tolls for EB at Roselle and Barrington.
Plus, for IL 59 you should be getting some benefit from traffic that used to turn onto IL 59 to access I-90 getting on elsewhere - the left turn arrow for WB IL 72 to SB IL 59 will probably not be up as long in the evenings once the WB entrance at Barrington opens.
Plus I've heard that a lot of the traffic entering from the Beverly Road entrance is actually traffic bypassing the tolled EB entrance at IL 25.
(Edited to fix incorrect toll amounts)
Agreed, I-90 is higher priced than a similar route on I-88. However depending upon morning rush hour traffic, I'd rather pay the $0.45 and easily save 10 minutes than driving around in a circle.
However I can also use your logic and say they actually rebuilt the randall, 31, and 25 interchange. They haven't even touched the 59 interchange, nor has IDOT actually fixed the synced any lights, nor properly fixed any intersections (I drive north on 59 to get onto EB 59.) The golf and 59 intersection is no fix. There should be a dedicated right turn lane from northbound 59 to east golf.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2016, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Supposedly to help pay for the cost of rebuilding the Roselle and Barrington interchanges.
I think there will be some traffic that is currently using the EB entrances at Roselle and Barrington that will shift to the free entrances at IL 53/I-290 and IL 59, and am also curious to see how much traffic really uses the new WB ramps to/from Meacham, given the proximity of the free WB exits at I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 09:54:28 PM
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Is that any worse than how if I get on at Randall to go EB, I get to pay the mainline toll, then I get hit up with additional tolls to exit at IL 59 after only traveling ~6.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of $1.05)? Or if I get on at IL 25 I get asked for more tolls to exit after only ~2.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of 85 cents)? Now I don't feel quite as bad about the new tolls for EB at Roselle and Barrington.
Plus, for IL 59 you should be getting some benefit from traffic that used to turn onto IL 59 to access I-90 getting on elsewhere - the left turn arrow for WB IL 72 to SB IL 59 will probably not be up as long in the evenings once the WB entrance at Barrington opens.
Plus I've heard that a lot of the traffic entering from the Beverly Road entrance is actually traffic bypassing the tolled EB entrance at IL 25.
(Edited to fix incorrect toll amounts)
Agreed, I-90 is higher priced than a similar route on I-88. However depending upon morning rush hour traffic, I'd rather pay the $0.45 and easily save 10 minutes than driving around in a circle.
However I can also use your logic and say they actually rebuilt the randall, 31, and 25 interchange. They haven't even touched the 59 interchange, nor has IDOT actually fixed the synced any lights, nor properly fixed any intersections (I drive north on 59 to get onto EB 59.) The golf and 59 intersection is no fix. There should be a dedicated right turn lane from northbound 59 to east golf.
In defense of the tollway on the IL-59 interchange, that was actually rebuilt and expanded in the early 90s, and I remember riding through there as a kid. Only a couple years later they built the Beverly Road interchange. This basically was to coincide with the Sears Corporate Center opening at the time. So, honestly, the tollway really doesn't need to do much with this. However, I am in agreement with the poor synchronization of the stoplights by IDOT (but this is no different from any other IDOT roadway).
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2016, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Supposedly to help pay for the cost of rebuilding the Roselle and Barrington interchanges.
I think there will be some traffic that is currently using the EB entrances at Roselle and Barrington that will shift to the free entrances at IL 53/I-290 and IL 59, and am also curious to see how much traffic really uses the new WB ramps to/from Meacham, given the proximity of the free WB exits at I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 09:54:28 PM
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Is that any worse than how if I get on at Randall to go EB, I get to pay the mainline toll, then I get hit up with additional tolls to exit at IL 59 after only traveling ~6.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of $1.05)? Or if I get on at IL 25 I get asked for more tolls to exit after only ~2.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of 85 cents)? Now I don't feel quite as bad about the new tolls for EB at Roselle and Barrington.
Plus, for IL 59 you should be getting some benefit from traffic that used to turn onto IL 59 to access I-90 getting on elsewhere - the left turn arrow for WB IL 72 to SB IL 59 will probably not be up as long in the evenings once the WB entrance at Barrington opens.
Plus I've heard that a lot of the traffic entering from the Beverly Road entrance is actually traffic bypassing the tolled EB entrance at IL 25.
(Edited to fix incorrect toll amounts)
Agreed, I-90 is higher priced than a similar route on I-88. However depending upon morning rush hour traffic, I'd rather pay the $0.45 and easily save 10 minutes than driving around in a circle.
However I can also use your logic and say they actually rebuilt the randall, 31, and 25 interchange. They haven't even touched the 59 interchange, nor has IDOT actually fixed the synced any lights, nor properly fixed any intersections (I drive north on 59 to get onto EB 59.) The golf and 59 intersection is no fix. There should be a dedicated right turn lane from northbound 59 to east golf.
The Randall Road interchange was not rebuilt as part of this project, they only did minor repairs to the ramps. They'll need to address the Randall Road interchange when Randall is widened to six lanes through that area (which is kind of already a need if you ask me). The Randall interchange needs to be reconfigured into either a SPUI or a DDI.
It will be interesting to see how the I-290/IL-53 system interchange with I-90 functions once the rebuild/widen is complete, considering that they completely failed to address the ramps (reconfiguration-wise). I have a feeling in a decade or so from now, they'll start talking about the need to rebuild/reconfigure the interchange. Simply removing the toll plazas (like they did initially with the Cherry Valley interchange) won't do (though they should remove them and simply raise nearby tolls to help offset lost revenue), there are geometrical deficiencies with the interchange as well that need to be addressed.
Quote from: I-39 on October 14, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2016, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Supposedly to help pay for the cost of rebuilding the Roselle and Barrington interchanges.
I think there will be some traffic that is currently using the EB entrances at Roselle and Barrington that will shift to the free entrances at IL 53/I-290 and IL 59, and am also curious to see how much traffic really uses the new WB ramps to/from Meacham, given the proximity of the free WB exits at I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 09:54:28 PM
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Is that any worse than how if I get on at Randall to go EB, I get to pay the mainline toll, then I get hit up with additional tolls to exit at IL 59 after only traveling ~6.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of $1.05)? Or if I get on at IL 25 I get asked for more tolls to exit after only ~2.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of 85 cents)? Now I don't feel quite as bad about the new tolls for EB at Roselle and Barrington.
Plus, for IL 59 you should be getting some benefit from traffic that used to turn onto IL 59 to access I-90 getting on elsewhere - the left turn arrow for WB IL 72 to SB IL 59 will probably not be up as long in the evenings once the WB entrance at Barrington opens.
Plus I've heard that a lot of the traffic entering from the Beverly Road entrance is actually traffic bypassing the tolled EB entrance at IL 25.
(Edited to fix incorrect toll amounts)
Agreed, I-90 is higher priced than a similar route on I-88. However depending upon morning rush hour traffic, I'd rather pay the $0.45 and easily save 10 minutes than driving around in a circle.
However I can also use your logic and say they actually rebuilt the randall, 31, and 25 interchange. They haven't even touched the 59 interchange, nor has IDOT actually fixed the synced any lights, nor properly fixed any intersections (I drive north on 59 to get onto EB 59.) The golf and 59 intersection is no fix. There should be a dedicated right turn lane from northbound 59 to east golf.
The Randall Road interchange was not rebuilt as part of this project, they only did minor repairs to the ramps. They'll need to address the Randall Road interchange when Randall is widened to six lanes through that area (which is kind of already a need if you ask me). The Randall interchange needs to be reconfigured into either a SPUI or a DDI.
It will be interesting to see how the I-290/IL-53 system interchange with I-90 functions once the rebuild/widen is complete, considering that they completely failed to address the ramps (reconfiguration-wise). I have a feeling in a decade or so from now, they'll start talking about the need to rebuild/reconfigure the interchange. Simply removing the toll plazas (like they did initially with the Cherry Valley interchange) won't do (though they should remove them and simply raise nearby tolls to help offset lost revenue), there are geometrical deficiencies with the interchange as well that need to be addressed.
What they could do for an instant fix is get rid of the cash lane and make all 3 lanes cashless ipass lanes. Kind of like how the new elgin o'hare tolls are.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 14, 2016, 10:56:10 PM
Quote from: I-39 on October 14, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 11:01:16 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 13, 2016, 10:28:37 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 12, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 11, 2016, 07:24:30 PM
and with them tolling the Roselle Rd and Barrington Rd on ramps that used to be free will they de toll the I-290 exit? some kind or virtual ticket discount?
I saw this today when getting on the Barrington rd ramp today compared to the 59 ramp on my usual commute going I-90 eastbound. What the heck is the point of this toll? I can easily bypass it by driving 2 miles west on 59.
Supposedly to help pay for the cost of rebuilding the Roselle and Barrington interchanges.
I think there will be some traffic that is currently using the EB entrances at Roselle and Barrington that will shift to the free entrances at IL 53/I-290 and IL 59, and am also curious to see how much traffic really uses the new WB ramps to/from Meacham, given the proximity of the free WB exits at I-290/IL 53.
Quote from: johndoe780 on October 13, 2016, 09:54:28 PM
Huh? Currently I get on from 59 and drive to the kennedy, only paying toll at devon ave.
With your method, I would get on from 59, pay toll, drive to the kennedy, pay toll again at devon, and I wouldn't even have the benefit of a better interchange as in barrington rd and roselle road.
Is that any worse than how if I get on at Randall to go EB, I get to pay the mainline toll, then I get hit up with additional tolls to exit at IL 59 after only traveling ~6.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of $1.05)? Or if I get on at IL 25 I get asked for more tolls to exit after only ~2.8 miles (minimum I-Pass toll of 85 cents)? Now I don't feel quite as bad about the new tolls for EB at Roselle and Barrington.
Plus, for IL 59 you should be getting some benefit from traffic that used to turn onto IL 59 to access I-90 getting on elsewhere - the left turn arrow for WB IL 72 to SB IL 59 will probably not be up as long in the evenings once the WB entrance at Barrington opens.
Plus I've heard that a lot of the traffic entering from the Beverly Road entrance is actually traffic bypassing the tolled EB entrance at IL 25.
(Edited to fix incorrect toll amounts)
Agreed, I-90 is higher priced than a similar route on I-88. However depending upon morning rush hour traffic, I'd rather pay the $0.45 and easily save 10 minutes than driving around in a circle.
However I can also use your logic and say they actually rebuilt the randall, 31, and 25 interchange. They haven't even touched the 59 interchange, nor has IDOT actually fixed the synced any lights, nor properly fixed any intersections (I drive north on 59 to get onto EB 59.) The golf and 59 intersection is no fix. There should be a dedicated right turn lane from northbound 59 to east golf.
The Randall Road interchange was not rebuilt as part of this project, they only did minor repairs to the ramps. They'll need to address the Randall Road interchange when Randall is widened to six lanes through that area (which is kind of already a need if you ask me). The Randall interchange needs to be reconfigured into either a SPUI or a DDI.
It will be interesting to see how the I-290/IL-53 system interchange with I-90 functions once the rebuild/widen is complete, considering that they completely failed to address the ramps (reconfiguration-wise). I have a feeling in a decade or so from now, they'll start talking about the need to rebuild/reconfigure the interchange. Simply removing the toll plazas (like they did initially with the Cherry Valley interchange) won't do (though they should remove them and simply raise nearby tolls to help offset lost revenue), there are geometrical deficiencies with the interchange as well that need to be addressed.
What they could do for an instant fix is get rid of the cash lane and make all 3 lanes cashless ipass lanes. Kind of like how the new elgin o'hare tolls are.
what about just putting tolls on each ramp from elgin to Chicago and make it like the 407?
Or just removing the tolls on I-290 / IL-53 toll exit's and adding them to IL-59 and Beverly Road to make it each side the same. Or make so enter at Roselle and Barrington and I-290 / IL-53 is FREE (ipass / ezpass only)
The Randall road fixes and rebuild most likely won't happen unless the rest of the rebuild happens which has a lot of moving parts to it. So I wouldn't expect that for another 5-10 years. I can't remember but I believe that the ramps were only partially rebuilt and realigned into the existing ones.
As for the I90 and 53/290 interchange. They have structured the off ramps and on ramps with longer leadoffs plus the traffic from 53 north to I90 west has a much longer lead in until it hits mainline 90 allowing traffic to get up to speed before it enters the main tollway. I think the thought was to structure it in such away that any backups on 53/290 don't affect mainline 90 in either direction which is a good move considering IDOT wasn't going to give up any money to rebuild the interchange. It'll have to be rebuilt at some point but the tollway did a good job of making sure their plans solved the traffic issues that they were able to control.
Quote from: quickshade on October 16, 2016, 11:14:21 AM
The Randall road fixes and rebuild most likely won't happen unless the rest of the rebuild happens which has a lot of moving parts to it. So I wouldn't expect that for another 5-10 years. I can't remember but I believe that the ramps were only partially rebuilt and realigned into the existing ones.
Rumor has it Kane County is, at this time, not going to do a big Randall Road six-laning project, but is instead going to slowly go to six lanes via improvements at individual intersections.
Quote from: quickshade on October 16, 2016, 11:14:21 AMAs for the I90 and 53/290 interchange. They have structured the off ramps and on ramps with longer leadoffs plus the traffic form 53 north to I90 west has a much longer lead in until it hits mainline 90 allowing traffic to get up to speed before it enters the main tollway. I think the thought was to structure it in such away that any backups on 53/290 don't affect mainline 90 in either direction which is a good move considering IDOT wasn't going to give up any money to rebuild the interchange. It'll have to be rebuilt at some point but the tollway did a good job of making sure their plans solved the traffic issues that they were able to control.
I wonder how much it would have cost them, or if it would have been feasible, to try braiding one or two of the loop ramps as an interim improvement? Example from the Minneapolis area. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0699121,-93.2857295,378m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)
It looks like there will be aux lanes
Lee street to I-294
I-290 / IL-53 to Arlington heights road
I-290 / IL-53 to Roselle road
maybe
Arlington heights road to IL-83??
Roselle road to barrington road??
I am 90 percent sure there will not be auxiliary lanes between Barrington and Roselle.
Drove it yesterday on my way to Wrigley (GO CUBS!!!) and a lot of it seems mostly done. near the 290/53 interchange most of the work looks done but the concrete divider between the 290 exit and i90. I noticed 2 trucks picking up barriers and another one putting down stripping. Saw a whole section of lights waiting to be put up. Some smaller sections still have no median yet, and the section just after the fox river bridge going east still needs some work but overall most of the project seems to be wrapping up and I would think that most of mainline 90 will be open by end of November or maybe December.
I did notice a lot of work still to be done at Barrington road, however it looked like they are moving now with the ramps being paved and tollbooths being assembled. I did notice the exit from i90 east to Barrington road still has nothing done but that might have to wait until the existing merge ramp is removed.
^That will be when the finally open the ramp on the other side of Barrington.
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Here is the proposed interchange for Route 23 in Marengo. I know its a roundabout so I expect a lot of complaints. There a 3 other proposed interchanges that are available options but they would not meet the traffic demands estimated by 2040 so this is the preferred build. They will vote on it next month.
Awaiting roundabout comments in 3....2....1
Roundabout comment :bigass:
I don't see a problem with it
Quote from: quickshade on October 25, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
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Here is the proposed interchange for Route 23 in Marengo. I know its a roundabout so I expect a lot of complaints. There a 3 other proposed interchanges that are available options but they would not meet the traffic demands estimated by 2040 so this is the preferred build. They will vote on it next month.
Awaiting roundabout comments in 3....2....1
How feasible will it be to add lanes if needed on Route 23? I know this is close to Wisconsin, but it feels like we took one right out of their playbook.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on October 25, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
Quote from: quickshade on October 25, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
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Here is the proposed interchange for Route 23 in Marengo. I know its a roundabout so I expect a lot of complaints. There a 3 other proposed interchanges that are available options but they would not meet the traffic demands estimated by 2040 so this is the preferred build. They will vote on it next month.
Awaiting roundabout comments in 3....2....1
How feasible will it be to add lanes if needed on Route 23? I know this is close to Wisconsin, but it feels like we took one right out of their playbook.
at the mini 2 each way or 1 + wide shoulders.
Quote from: quickshade on October 25, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
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Here is the proposed interchange for Route 23 in Marengo. I know its a roundabout so I expect a lot of complaints. There a 3 other proposed interchanges that are available options but they would not meet the traffic demands estimated by 2040 so this is the preferred build. They will vote on it next month.
Awaiting roundabout comments in 3....2....1
I don't see any problems with roundabouts... I love this interchange design!
I imagine there will be I-PASS-only toll plazas on the EB and WB exit ramps.
Quote from: I-39 on October 26, 2016, 05:34:10 PM
I imagine there will be I-PASS-only toll plazas on the EB and WB exit ramps.
Agreed
Quote from: ET21 on October 26, 2016, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: I-39 on October 26, 2016, 05:34:10 PM
I imagine there will be I-PASS-only toll plazas on the EB and WB exit ramps.
Agreed
It is a local share project and while I can't find anything in writing I am pretty sure there will be no toll. but don't quote me on that. BTW glad everyone is happy with the roundabout, might be a first here.
Quote from: quickshade on October 26, 2016, 10:17:49 PM
It is a local share project and while I can't find anything in writing I am pretty sure there will be no toll. but don't quote me on that. BTW glad everyone is happy with the roundabout, might be a first here.
I am pretty confident that at least two of the ramps at IL 23 will be tolled - it seems ISTHA is trying to remove any free movements on their system, based on some of the IL 53 extension documents related to changing the tolls on the Tri-State and bringing back a mainline toll in Deerfield. Without any toll plazas at the new IL 23 interchange there would be a short but free westbound possibility from US 20 to IL 23, and a much longer free option for EB from I-39 to IL 23. Not charging for the eastbound exit to IL 23 would also enable a nice shunpike option for the Marengo mainline plaza, via IL 23, Harmony Road, and US 20.
EDIT: And while the WB free travel stretch would be short, an interchange at IL 23 could certainly make it part of a new way for traffic on US 20 to get around Marengo.
EDIT 2: Per an update on Schaumburg's website, (http://schaumburg90project.weebly.com/) the new WB ramps to/from Meacham Road and the new EB exit to Roselle Road are supposed to open on November 18.
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That is from the city minutes in June 2016.
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Theres a picture of the page, last sentence in second to last paragraph.
Quote from: Revive 755 on October 27, 2016, 09:47:54 PM
Quote from: quickshade on October 26, 2016, 10:17:49 PM
It is a local share project and while I can't find anything in writing I am pretty sure there will be no toll. but don't quote me on that. BTW glad everyone is happy with the roundabout, might be a first here.
I am pretty confident that at least two of the ramps at IL 23 will be tolled - it seems ISTHA is trying to remove any free movements on their system, based on some of the IL 53 extension documents related to changing the tolls on the Tri-State and bringing back a mainline toll in Deerfield.
They wanted to make the tolls more fair as then got rid of Deerfield in some cases you can drive longer and pay less then going other ways. But there is no room to re add them unless it's ETC only.
They need to move to full EOE or ETR like tolling on all toll roads. I-90 needs to remove the tolls to exit to IL-53/I-290 to make it fair for both ways.
Will both Meacham ramps be tolled or only one?
Quote from: tribar on October 28, 2016, 01:03:39 PM
Will both Meacham Ramos be tolled or only one?
looks to be both and speed limit 55 at least for I-290 to I-294.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on October 28, 2016, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: tribar on October 28, 2016, 01:03:39 PM
Will both Meacham Ramos be tolled or only one?
looks to be both and speed limit 55 at least for I-290 to I-294.
Boooooooooo on the speed limit. I could see 55 from Lee Street eastward though
Speed limits will remain the same through the next year while data is collected about traffic flow on the new lanes and interchanges and while some final minor construction is completed on I-90 next year. They have already said that they will reevaluate the speed limit over the summer and make a decision next fall about any increases which should be put into effect the following spring. Don't be surprised if it jumps up to 60-65 in some places.
Quote from: quickshade on October 30, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
Speed limits will remain the same through the next year while data is collected about traffic flow on the new lanes and interchanges and while some final minor construction is completed on I-90 next year. They have already said that they will reevaluate the speed limit over the summer and make a decision next fall about any increases which should be put into effect the following spring. Don't be surprised if it jumps up to 60-65 in some places.
I-294 needs to be at least 60 all the way.
Yesterday (11/5/16), I drove on Interstate 90 towards Illinois State Road 31. Here is an update on I-90 rebuilding and widening.
1. Work continues in the median in 3 sections:
a) just west of Devon Avenue Toll Plaza to Arlington Heights Road
b) Roselle Road to Barrington Road
c) Illinois State Road 25 to Illinois State Road 31
2. Elmhurst Road Interchange looks like it's almost done. I-Pass Only-Eastbound Exit and Westbound Entrance.
3. Meacham Road Interchange looks like it's ready to open soon. I-Pass Only-Westbound Exit and Entrance.
4. Roselle Road Interchange. Eastbound entrance ramp will have a new toll gate getting onto the tollway. Looks like there will be 2 I-PASS only lanes and 1 cash lane. Also, the Eastbound exit ramp (which is I-Pass Only) looks like it's ready to open soon.
5. Barrington Road Interchange. Eastbound entrance ramp will have a new toll gate getting onto the tollway. Looks like the I-Pass lanes will be on the outside, and the cash lane will be on the inside. Haven't seen any major construction on the Eastbound off-ramp. Traffic has been shifted onto the new ramps and the loop ramp to Interstate 90 Eastbound has been removed. Looks like the westbound on-ramp is about 70-80% complete.
6. The SMART Technology. Gantries are already up between the eastern end of the project all the way to the Barrington Road Interchange.
7. Other items.
a) Lighting. The lighting are going up in the median and some of the interchanges. Looks about 50% complete.
b) Gantries. There are still some sign gantries in the median that will need to go up and over the road.
Looks good so far! :clap: :clap:
^ Also to note is that for at least a brief section east of Roselle Road, the westbound mainline has all four main lanes open
Quote from: Revive 755 on November 06, 2016, 09:51:17 PM
^ Also to note is that for at least a brief section east of Roselle Road, the westbound mainline has all four main lanes open
no 3+aux like how it used to be.
Final plan seems to be 4+aux.
Brief 4 lane + aux looks to also open at Arlington heights road
Quote from: ET21 on November 08, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Brief 4 lane + aux looks to also open at Arlington heights road
should be from I-290 / IL-53 till Arlington heights road. Now Arlington heights road to Elmhurst Rd / I-490 ramps?
The should add a Meacham EB off ramp to help Woodfield traffic.
Quote from: dvferyance on November 08, 2016, 02:47:53 PM
The should add a Meacham EB off ramp to help Woodfield traffic.
That's what the full interchange at Roselle is for. A full interchange at Meacham would interfere too much with the Roselle ramps.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on November 08, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
Quote from: ET21 on November 08, 2016, 10:47:36 AM
Brief 4 lane + aux looks to also open at Arlington heights road
should be from I-290 / IL-53 till Arlington heights road.
Not yet, they're still doing final concrete fillings and signage placement as of Sunday in that section. I'm just talking about the Art heights road interchange itself, all they have to do is remove the cones
From the Elgin toll to 53/290 mainline I90 is about 95% complete. landscaping work is ongoing along the route while sign work and lighting installs continue. A few traffic shifts remain depending on work zone area and as they work to stripe all lanes. Only a single section of concrete barriers remains near the Barrington road interchange as they configure the new ramps. The ramp to I90 west is being worked on and should be completed in early December.
On the other side the new exit ramp is starting construction with an early 2017 completion date scheduled. At that time traffic will be aligned in it's final pattern through the intersection. Mainline I90 work in this area however should be wrapped up by mid December allowing all lanes to open. Near 53 crews were installing lighting on all exit ramps and center median. A barricade wall was being built from the 53 south to i90 west ramp to reduce noise to the residential area and toll work was ongoing at the new exit.
There is still a major dip in the road east of Barrington road exit going eastbound. This will be addressed with a traffic shift and ripping up the concrete in that section for repair. The tollway predicts a mid December opening of all I90 lanes (although some area's may be open before that). The temporary electrical poles and lights are starting be be shut down in areas but i'd assume those won't actually come down until next spring depending on the weather.
Quote from: quickshade on November 12, 2016, 04:11:19 PM
From the Elgin toll to 53/290 mainline I90 is about 95% complete. landscaping work is ongoing along the route while sign work and lighting installs continue. A few traffic shifts remain depending on work zone area and as they work to stripe all lanes. Only a single section of concrete barriers remains near the Barrington road interchange as they configure the new ramps. The ramp to I90 west is being worked on and should be completed in early December.
On the other side the new exit ramp is starting construction with an early 2017 completion date scheduled. At that time traffic will be aligned in it's final pattern through the intersection. Mainline I90 work in this area however should be wrapped up by mid December allowing all lanes to open. Near 53 crews were installing lighting on all exit ramps and center median. A barricade wall was being built from the 53 south to i90 west ramp to reduce noise to the residential area and toll work was ongoing at the new exit.
There is still a major dip in the road east of Barrington road exit going eastbound. This will be addressed with a traffic shift and ripping up the concrete in that section for repair. The tollway predicts a mid December opening of all I90 lanes (although some area's may be open before that). The temporary electrical poles and lights are starting be be shut down in areas but i'd assume those won't actually come down until next spring depending on the weather.
That all seems to make sense. I had a feeling the I-90 EB Exit ramp to Barrington would go into next year as the work at that interchange seemed to just go slower. Very happy to have the mainline lanes opening next month. Any word on when the Elmhurst Rd interchange will be fully open?
I drove on the Jane Addams for the first time when I went out to Wisconsin yesterday. It looks really good. Although there are some messy areas like Elmhurst and Des Plaines Oasis and Barrington, it's coming along well. I am confused on the Meachem Interchange, will there be Stoplights there or no? I didn't see stoplights on the bridge and I believe the Message board said Electronic tolling November.
And I am still confused on the Des Plaines Oasis. So they are leaving it up until the EOWA comes through? I saw the Gantry signs with the Oasis sign on them. It just seems weird that eventually they will tear up that section in like 2-3 years to create the interchange for the EOWA
The Elmhurst road interchange will open at some point in December. The tollway doesn't ever put out firm dates because everything is project and weather dependent. expect them to give a loose date by the end of November in terms of what week the interchange will fully open.
As for the oasis, the signs could easily be converted over to new signage for the EOWA when the time comes.
I highly doubt the Barrington Road interchange will be fully ready by the end of the year. Too much is left to be done. They haven't even laid any concrete for the EB exit ramp and only just within the last week or so removed the existing loop ramp. And I still don't think they have finished the actual improvements on Barrington Road. The Barrington Road interchange won't be finished until next spring at the soonest.
Quote from: ILRoad55 on November 12, 2016, 09:29:50 PM
I am confused on the Meachem Interchange, will there be Stoplights there or no? I didn't see stoplights on the bridge and I believe the Message board said Electronic tolling November.
The Meacham interchange will be signalized, the contractor is just taking a little while to get all the permanent signals up for the Roselle and Meacham interchanges.
Quote from: ILRoad55 on November 12, 2016, 09:29:50 PMAnd I am still confused on the Des Plaines Oasis. So they are leaving it up until the EOWA comes through? I saw the Gantry signs with the Oasis sign on them. It just seems weird that eventually they will tear up that section in like 2-3 years to create the interchange for the EOWA
Could be closer to four to five years, as the IL 390 to I-90 section of the Western Bypass/I-490 is supposed to be the last part of the EOWA project constructed, and is not supposed to start construction until sometime after 2020. Though if the Tollway keeps having problems with the Canadian Pacific Railroad for the southern end of I-490, I could see them switching the schedule around and doing the IL 390 to I-90 section before the IL 390 to I-294 section.
Quote from: I-39 on November 13, 2016, 04:07:33 PM
I highly doubt the Barrington Road interchange will be fully ready by the end of the year. Too much is left to be done. They haven't even laid any concrete for the EB exit ramp and only just within the last week or so removed the existing loop ramp. And I still don't think they have finished the actual improvements on Barrington Road. The Barrington Road interchange won't be finished until next spring at the soonest.
Correct, as stated above they will finish the WB entrance ramp and have that open in December sometime, however the EB exit from I90 will not be done until 2017. I imagine they will finish all sewer and blacktop work, lay the apron from I90 to the exit and put a barrier wall up. Come back in the spring and pour the rest of the concrete, finish landscaping and lighting work and do a final traffic shift into final lane configuration while opening the ramp.
http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_1d415972-ace1-11e6-9925-47bdebd4c5cf.html (http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_1d415972-ace1-11e6-9925-47bdebd4c5cf.html)
Can't find it on the tollway website but seems most construction will be wrapped up by next week.
Quote from: quickshade on November 17, 2016, 05:07:38 PM
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Can't find it on the tollway website but seems most construction will be wrapped up by next week.
Surprised the tollway hasn't made a public announcement yet.
Makes sense that they would open up all 8 lanes right before thanksgiving.
All lanes are open between Arlington Heights Road and Roselle Road. Meacham Rd interchange is complete. Most of the rest of it is close to being done Witt the exception of Barrington Road to 59.
GTK Tribar. Thanks.
I sense a road trip of I-90 soon :bigass:
Drove EB on I-90 today. I don't think it has been noted, but the EB Roselle Road off ramp is now open (that one came together quite quickly I might add). One question I have on the toll plaza from EB I-90 to NB IL 53 is why isn't the I-Pass only lane open by now and all traffic cones removed there? It looks like that pavement and work is all done, and it was a bit aggravating that I got stuck behind someone without an I-Pass who had trouble finding the change needed to pay the toll. Also, any reason the sound wall from SB IL 53 to WB I-90 has suddenly slowed to a snail's pace? Contractor maybe has higher priority items to finish? Overall, though, I am liking much of what is finally starting to look like the finished product.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on November 20, 2016, 09:10:32 PM
Drove EB on I-90 today. I don't think it has been noted, but the EB Roselle Road off ramp is now open (that one came together quite quickly I might add). One question I have on the toll plaza from EB I-90 to NB IL 53 is why isn't the I-Pass only lane open by now and all traffic cones removed there? It looks like that pavement and work is all done, and it was a bit aggravating that I got stuck behind someone without an I-Pass who had trouble finding the change needed to pay the toll. Also, any reason the sound wall from SB IL 53 to WB I-90 has suddenly slowed to a snail's pace? Contractor maybe has higher priority items to finish? Overall, though, I am liking much of what is finally starting to look like the finished product.
The lighting contractor has some more work to do in that area to finish up the installs and make final connections, once that is done expect them to open it. Also they were working all week on putting up the posts for the wall and removing a small section of roadway to prepare the base for concrete for the concrete barrier wall that will be in front of the sound wall. The wall sections won't be put in until the footer is poured and with the short week I would on expect them to finish putting up the post and maybe getting the footing poured this week. Once's thats done the wall sections should go in quickly and they should start building the forms for the concrete barrier wall and get that poured in the coming weeks. I would expect it to be completed mid December.
Large chunks of the new roadway are now open, with further openings happening over the next month. The Roselle and Meacham Road exits are also opened
Quote from: ET21 on November 23, 2016, 09:15:19 PM
Large chunks of the new roadway are now open, with further openings happening over the next month. The Roselle and Meacham Road exits are also opened
Well, that's great news! I will be driving on that tomorrow! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Full width sections look good, CAN'T wait until it's all like this:
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So for the completed sections, these must be the final road markings? I noticed there were also reflectors.
I definitely am a fan of the LED lighting. I agree, the finished product is looking good. The Tollway does use reflective road markers in their standard markings, so nothing new about that. I wonder if the Tollway has any plans to install additional continuous lighting down I-90 from where I-39 merges until the end of ISTHA Maintenance at Rockton Road. If they did that, it would leave about 2-3 only of I-90 in Illinois without any lighting (considering that the entire non-ISTHA in Chicago segment also is completely lit). Also funny to consider now how I-90 through Illinois basically is a minimum six lanes with the exception of just a couple interchanges (no pressure WI and IN).
Just used the new Meacham Road interchange today. It's really nice It will be even better when the rest of the interchange improvements are done.
Quote from: I-39 on November 25, 2016, 03:37:19 PM
Just used the new Meacham Road interchange today. It's really nice It will be even better when the rest of the interchange improvements are done.
I wonder if it helped create any drop on the main I-290 to Woodfield interchange. Today was probably a good test. How busy was the new ramp?
I know the Live Cameras are the most reliable because they aren't every couple minutes but the ramp looked pretty empty. I remember it being like this when the Balmoral Ramp opened up on the Tri-State, it was always empty but in the past year I've actually seen a line of traffic starting right before the I-Pass sensor. Balmoral gets used a lot now which is nice! I imagine Meacham will eventually be used more as time goes on, it's just a matter of having people know about it.
Has anyone else driven this the last few days? Are any other sections west of Roselle or east of Arlington Heights Road completely open?
A message board on Barrington Road at I-90 seems to indicate opening of the new WB entrance has fallen back - is there a reason they can't just come out and say 'new ramp opens 2017' and not the 'tolling begins 2017' message (and similar messages used for Roselle and Meacham)? The message they are/have been using almost makes it seem like they are going to charge to cross over the tollway.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 04, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
A message board on Barrington Road at I-90 seems to indicate opening of the new WB entrance has fallen back - is there a reason they can't just come out and say 'new ramp opens 2017' and not the 'tolling begins 2017' message (and similar messages used for Roselle and Meacham)? The message they are/have been using almost makes it seem like they are going to charge to cross over the tollway.
It seems the whole Barrington Road interchange project has fallen far behind, they haven't even finished the EB entrance/exit ramps yet. Maybe they were just shifting focus to completing the mainline work first, then they'll finish Barrington/Roselle (the WB entrance) next year.
As far as i'm concerned the entrance to WB i90 will be completed by the end of the year, while it may not be tolled when it is opened it looks pretty close to completion. the i90 east exit to Barrington road will not be completed this year and will be finished in the spring.
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 04, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
A message board on Barrington Road at I-90 seems to indicate opening of the new WB entrance has fallen back - is there a reason they can't just come out and say 'new ramp opens 2017' and not the 'tolling begins 2017' message (and similar messages used for Roselle and Meacham)? The message they are/have been using almost makes it seem like they are going to charge to cross over the tollway.
The Tollway doesn't always start tolling the day the ramp opens, so it's possible that the ramp will open in the next few weeks, but tolling won't start until Jan 1st or 2nd. I'm guessing that's the case here.
Most segments are completely open now. Only 294 to Elmhurst and Roselle to Barrington Road are still 3 or less lanes. The work zone speed limit also ends at Route 25 right now.
Barrington WB entrance ramp will open this week.
Quote from: quickshade on December 10, 2016, 10:49:28 AM
Barrington WB entrance ramp will open this week.
And the fourth lane on WB I-90 through Barrington Road interchange has been opened! (according to live cameras) :clap: :clap: :clap:
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on December 10, 2016, 11:35:55 AM
Quote from: quickshade on December 10, 2016, 10:49:28 AM
Barrington WB entrance ramp will open this week.
And the fourth lane on WB I-90 through Barrington Road interchange has been opened! (according to live cameras) :clap: :clap: :clap:
The fourth lane WB was opened at least to the IL 59 interchange from the IL 53/I-290 interchange, and I imagine it likely is open through the end of the project area (can anyone else confirm this?). I drove that stretch just today, and it was quite nice having not only the lanes back in a normal configuration, but that additional lane. How about the section between 290 and 294, did they finally finish those overpasses and open the fourth lane?
It seems that the WB entrance from Barrington Road might still have the finishing touches being put on it to be opened? I saw what at least appeared to be barriers still (wouldn't be surprised if the weather affected this).
Quote from: ChiMilNet on December 17, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
The fourth lane WB was opened at least to the IL 59 interchange from the IL 53/I-290 interchange, and I imagine it likely is open through the end of the project area (can anyone else confirm this?). I drove that stretch just today, and it was quite nice having not only the lanes back in a normal configuration, but that additional lane. How about the section between 290 and 294, did they finally finish those overpasses and open the fourth lane?
From what I heard from someone that drove that section yesterday, it might be a little while before one of the bridges closer to I-294 is done.
Also, has there been any word on the new Elmhurst ramps opening?
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 17, 2016, 11:18:41 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on December 17, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
The fourth lane WB was opened at least to the IL 59 interchange from the IL 53/I-290 interchange, and I imagine it likely is open through the end of the project area (can anyone else confirm this?). I drove that stretch just today, and it was quite nice having not only the lanes back in a normal configuration, but that additional lane. How about the section between 290 and 294, did they finally finish those overpasses and open the fourth lane?
From what I heard from someone that drove that section yesterday, it might be a little while before one of the bridges closer to I-294 is done.
Also, has there been any word on the new Elmhurst ramps opening?
I think that it will be open in Spring 2017...
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 17, 2016, 11:18:41 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on December 17, 2016, 10:03:32 PM
The fourth lane WB was opened at least to the IL 59 interchange from the IL 53/I-290 interchange, and I imagine it likely is open through the end of the project area (can anyone else confirm this?). I drove that stretch just today, and it was quite nice having not only the lanes back in a normal configuration, but that additional lane. How about the section between 290 and 294, did they finally finish those overpasses and open the fourth lane?
From what I heard from someone that drove that section yesterday, it might be a little while before one of the bridges closer to I-294 is done.
Also, has there been any word on the new Elmhurst ramps opening?
They said December 2016.
As of this week, EB I-90 has all four through lanes open around Barrington Road.
There's also a message board on the Barrington Road overpass indicating the new ramp will open December 30.
Looks like they were aiming for the new year weekend travel, though I bet there's still a punch list for final trimmings around the interchange
Quote from: ET21 on December 28, 2016, 10:58:42 AM
Looks like they were aiming for the new year weekend travel, though I bet there's still a punch list for final trimmings around the interchange
The interchange, minus the EB I-90 off ramp looks like it will be open. Barrington Road itself will probably not be finished until this spring when the off ramp itself is finally open. At least I-90 itself is fully open, which is a welcome relief.
Woo-Hoo!! :clap:
WB Barrington Road entrance has opened!
That means my 37 mile commute now has only 2 stoplights (down from 11).
It's another $0.45 toll, which works out to a nickel for each stoplight avoided.
I guess it's worth it.
It looks like the tollway delivered on its promise to have I-90 open to eight lanes between Elgin and O'Hare by end of year 2016 (and just within the nick of time). I drove the segment from I-294 to I-290 yesterday, and it was quite nice having that extra lane. The section just West of the Devon Ave. Toll Plaza is especially a welcome change with no more merging into just three lanes (along with that awkward shift that used to exist) from all the toll lanes, etc. In fact, the tollway did a very smart thing by keeping an auxiliary lane open to the oasis. I get the feeling traffic will flow much better through here now. Yeah, extra tolls at the new ramps (and one or two of the existing ones) are a bit of a drawback. However, overall, I think it is worth it, and it's rather amazing how much more modern I-90 is now (it really needed an upgrade and face-lift).
Having it posted for 55 is really annoying. Was 60 that big of a stretch?
Quote from: JREwing78 on January 01, 2017, 10:52:50 PM
Having it posted for 55 is really annoying. Was 60 that big of a stretch?
The tollway increased the speed limit from Rockford to the Elgin toll plaza up to 65 MPH. Once major construction finishes up in the spring they will check traffic data on the newly completed section and make changes based on the new data. I believe they have said they want to make it 65 up to the 53/290 interchange and then 60 the rest of the way. But we shall see once they get enough data.
Quote from: quickshade on January 01, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on January 01, 2017, 10:52:50 PM
Having it posted for 55 is really annoying. Was 60 that big of a stretch?
The tollway increased the speed limit from Rockford to the Elgin toll plaza up to 65 MPH. Once major construction finishes up in the spring they will check traffic data on the newly completed section and make changes based on the new data. I believe they have said they want to make it 65 up to the 53/290 interchange and then 60 the rest of the way. But we shall see once they get enough data.
Shouldn't it be 70 from Rockford to Elgin?
Quote from: johndoe780 on January 02, 2017, 01:30:20 AM
Quote from: quickshade on January 01, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on January 01, 2017, 10:52:50 PM
Having it posted for 55 is really annoying. Was 60 that big of a stretch?
The tollway increased the speed limit from Rockford to the Elgin toll plaza up to 65 MPH. Once major construction finishes up in the spring they will check traffic data on the newly completed section and make changes based on the new data. I believe they have said they want to make it 65 up to the 53/290 interchange and then 60 the rest of the way. But we shall see once they get enough data.
Shouldn't it be 70 from Rockford to Elgin?
Personally I think it should be 75. 55 in inclement weather situations. But thats just how I would do it. I know the concern was that after Huntley traffic tends to increase a bit more and you have more interchanges so you need a lower speed limit.
Quote from: quickshade on January 01, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on January 01, 2017, 10:52:50 PM
Having it posted for 55 is really annoying. Was 60 that big of a stretch?
I believe they have said they want to make it 65 up to the 53/290 interchange and then 60 the rest of the way. But we shall see once they get enough data.
70 from Rockford to Elgin should be a given, as it's easily the best stretch of highway in the entire state. They're at least not heavily enforcing the currently posted 65, but it's kinda ridiculous to go from 70 from the Wisconsin line (which has lighting only at the tollbooth and interchanges) to 65 on the Rockford to Elgin stretch (which has excellent lighting).
I will say - with the vast majority of construction between Rockford and 53/290 completed, it's a much smoother and quicker ride. The Rockford to Elgin construction easily added a half-hour to my trips to Michigan, where I either had to choose 40+ miles of white-knuckle driving or dropping south to 88.
Quote from: JREwing78 on January 02, 2017, 12:29:58 PM
Quote from: quickshade on January 01, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on January 01, 2017, 10:52:50 PM
Having it posted for 55 is really annoying. Was 60 that big of a stretch?
I believe they have said they want to make it 65 up to the 53/290 interchange and then 60 the rest of the way. But we shall see once they get enough data.
70 from Rockford to Elgin should be a given, as it's easily the best stretch of highway in the entire state. They're at least not heavily enforcing the currently posted 65, but it's kinda ridiculous to go from 70 from the Wisconsin line (which has lighting only at the tollbooth and interchanges) to 65 on the Rockford to Elgin stretch (which has excellent lighting).
I will say - with the vast majority of construction between Rockford and 53/290 completed, it's a much smoother and quicker ride. The Rockford to Elgin construction easily added a half-hour to my trips to Michigan, where I either had to choose 40+ miles of white-knuckle driving or dropping south to 88.
I'd like to know how much time you save now compared to pre-construction.
Quote from: quickshade on January 02, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
I'd like to know how much time you save now compared to pre-construction.
Hard to say - my trips to Michigan were less frequent prior to the construction.
Is it sad that I look at this pic and immediately notice I-90 between Chicago and Rockford? :-D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w9jol.com%2Fspace.jpg&hash=ae79eab4f3fca3f327f5161d6e4e9a98d8904d96)
Quote from: GeekJedi on January 10, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
Is it sad that I look at this pic and immediately notice I-90 between Chicago and Rockford? :-D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w9jol.com%2Fspace.jpg&hash=ae79eab4f3fca3f327f5161d6e4e9a98d8904d96)
I love how it ends at I-39. The tollway couldn't be bothered to light the remaining stretch?
That section was already rebuilt when the decision was made to put the continuous lighting I believe. It has a good section of lighting around Rockford and along interchanges, but is unlit otherwise. Personally, the lighting on the E-W portion is highly unnecessary.
Quote from: GeekJedi on January 10, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
Is it sad that I look at this pic and immediately notice I-90 between Chicago and Rockford? :-D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w9jol.com%2Fspace.jpg&hash=ae79eab4f3fca3f327f5161d6e4e9a98d8904d96)
First of all, where did you get that pic? In general, that is awesome. That said, the lighting, being LED, is way more efficient than the older sodium vapor lighting, so it probably is a much lower expense to light the entire stretch. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually lit the portion from Rockford to the South Beloit Toll (and converted the remainder of the lighting to LED). I just noticed the other day that the last of the "down the middle" lighting seems to be active now.
I'd be curious to see where I-90 ranks in the list of continuously lit highways. When you consider the stretch beginning at the IL/IN border, up to Rockford, I-90 is continuously lit through that entire stretch now, with a notable portion of it quite rural. I bet the combination I-94/I-294 is not far behind (lit from IL/WI state line to I-65 in IN).
Quote from: SSOWorld on January 10, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
Personally, the lighting on the E-W portion is highly unnecessary.
I understand your thought here, but I frequently travel back from the Chicago area at night. I used to take I-88 to I-39, but since the lighting has been installed, I feel much more secure on I-90 from not having to worry about deer jumping out and not being able to see them. Have also driven it during a Snow Storm and was once again grateful that the lighting was there.
Quote from: ChiMilNet on January 10, 2017, 09:58:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually lit the portion from Rockford to the South Beloit Toll (and converted the remainder of the lighting to LED).
Most of that stretch is not lit at all, so it's not as easy as simply changing the bulbs. They'd have to install new light poles for almost the entire length, which would cost money. I agree they should do it, but I don't expect it to happen.
I really can't believe the tollway cut corners as much as they did when they redid the stretch between Rockford and South Beloit. Most of the bridges were not reconstructed (mainline and crossroad), they didn't use concrete (instead they used hot-mixed asphalt which is already coming undone) and they didn't put lights in the median. When compared to the newly reconstructed section between Rockford and O'Hare, the Rockford to South Beloit segment is horrendous.
At some point, they'll need to come back and reconstruct it properly (but that should by no means be high on the priority list).
Quote from: I-39 on January 11, 2017, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on January 10, 2017, 09:58:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually lit the portion from Rockford to the South Beloit Toll (and converted the remainder of the lighting to LED).
Most of that stretch is not lit at all, so it's not as easy as simply changing the bulbs. They'd have to install new light poles for almost the entire length, which would cost money. I agree they should do it, but I don't expect it to happen.
I really can't believe the tollway cut corners as much as they did when they redid the stretch between Rockford and South Beloit. Most of the bridges were not reconstructed (mainline and crossroad), they didn't use concrete (instead they used hot-mixed asphalt which is already coming undone) and they didn't put lights in the median. When compared to the newly reconstructed section between Rockford and O'Hare, the Rockford to South Beloit segment is horrendous.
At some point, they'll need to come back and reconstruct it properly (but that should by no means be high on the priority list).
The corners they cut in that stretch will stick out much more now that the portion East of there is completely rebuilt with the lighting. At the time they rebuilt the stretch through Rockford, it was a welcome improvement, and the addition of the extra lanes through that stretch made a difference. That must have been nearly 8 years ago now, though, right? I was baffled by the decision at the time on the pavement, which I feel that should have at least been built as concrete, and no doubt that is why that section is coming apart. Overall, the tollway did seem to neglect rebuilding many of the overpasses on a few of the stretches when they did their original capital program, and there are other stretches where this is apparent (Northern portion of I-294 is notable for this too). It seems they might have learned their lesson on this most recent section off I-90.
The next priorities for I-90, though, after all of the interchanges are finished being built under the current program, needs to be a proper rebuild of the I-290/IL-53 interchange, and then a full depth rebuild of the Rockford to South Beloit portion.
One thing I noticed that I didn't seen mentioned is that it appears that the tollway installed a lot of the infrastructure to continue to smart road gantries in the future. Are there any plans within the next 5-10 years to extend that?
Quote from: ChiMilNet on January 11, 2017, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: I-39 on January 11, 2017, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on January 10, 2017, 09:58:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually lit the portion from Rockford to the South Beloit Toll (and converted the remainder of the lighting to LED).
Most of that stretch is not lit at all, so it's not as easy as simply changing the bulbs. They'd have to install new light poles for almost the entire length, which would cost money. I agree they should do it, but I don't expect it to happen.
I really can't believe the tollway cut corners as much as they did when they redid the stretch between Rockford and South Beloit. Most of the bridges were not reconstructed (mainline and crossroad), they didn't use concrete (instead they used hot-mixed asphalt which is already coming undone) and they didn't put lights in the median. When compared to the newly reconstructed section between Rockford and O'Hare, the Rockford to South Beloit segment is horrendous.
At some point, they'll need to come back and reconstruct it properly (but that should by no means be high on the priority list).
The corners they cut in that stretch will stick out much more now that the portion East of there is completely rebuilt with the lighting. At the time they rebuilt the stretch through Rockford, it was a welcome improvement, and the addition of the extra lanes through that stretch made a difference. That must have been nearly 8 years ago now, though, right? I was baffled by the decision at the time on the pavement, which I feel that should have at least been built as concrete, and no doubt that is why that section is coming apart. Overall, the tollway did seem to neglect rebuilding many of the overpasses on a few of the stretches when they did their original capital program, and there are other stretches where this is apparent (Northern portion of I-294 is notable for this too). It seems they might have learned their lesson on this most recent section off I-90.
The next priorities for I-90, though, after all of the interchanges are finished being built under the current program, needs to be a proper rebuild of the I-290/IL-53 interchange, and then a full depth rebuild of the Rockford to South Beloit portion.
One thing I noticed that I didn't seen mentioned is that it appears that the tollway installed a lot of the infrastructure to continue to smart road gantries in the future. Are there any plans within the next 5-10 years to extend that?
Likely all the way till Elgin toll. And central tri-state rebuild.
Per the following news article, it appears the new ramps to/from the west at Elmhurst Road are not opening for quite a while:
http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_744e9a08-d843-11e6-8f18-27e7ce2fdf55.html (http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_744e9a08-d843-11e6-8f18-27e7ce2fdf55.html)
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 11, 2017, 10:13:48 PM
Per the following news article, it appears the new ramps to/from the west at Elmhurst Road are not opening for quite a while:
http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_744e9a08-d843-11e6-8f18-27e7ce2fdf55.html (http://www.journal-topics.com/news/article_744e9a08-d843-11e6-8f18-27e7ce2fdf55.html)
Not a shock, the 2 heavy snows in the first 2 weeks of December along with the very cold in between cut a good chunk of time out of what they thought would be a productive month to finish some of the bigger ticket items up.
Quote from: SSOWorld on January 10, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
That section was already rebuilt when the decision was made to put the continuous lighting I believe. It has a good section of lighting around Rockford and along interchanges, but is unlit otherwise. Personally, the lighting on the E-W portion is highly unnecessary.
On the bright side (hey a pun), the lighting might make it easier to spot a cop on that section after dark. Recent trip had two cops in the median watching WB traffic and one for EB between I-39 and IL 47.
On a side note, the Tollway has installed the LED white lights along I-88 from Highland Ave to York Rd, Quite the difference at night.
Quote from: hobsini2 on January 15, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
On a side note, the Tollway has installed the LED white lights along I-88 from Highland Ave to York Rd, Quite the difference at night.
Why does it look so different compared to the LED lighting on 390 or 90?
Quote from: johndoe780 on January 15, 2017, 11:06:19 AM
Quote from: hobsini2 on January 15, 2017, 08:47:28 AM
On a side note, the Tollway has installed the LED white lights along I-88 from Highland Ave to York Rd, Quite the difference at night.
Why does it look so different compared to the LED lighting on 390 or 90?
Yea there's certainly is a difference. Not sure if its brightness or not but either way my eyes do not like the LED lighting.
Does anyone when the ATM's on I 90 will be turned on?
Quote from: tribar on March 04, 2017, 11:47:25 PM
Does anyone when the ATM's on I 90 will be turned on?
Supposedly sometime this spring, per this handout. (https://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/20184/105109/2016_90_StateOfTheArt_FactSheet_12-02-16.pdf/5fd3bfc6-f080-43bf-8f8c-28b8e41d2eec)
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 05, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: tribar on March 04, 2017, 11:47:25 PM
Does anyone when the ATM's on I 90 will be turned on?
Supposedly sometime this spring, per this handout. (https://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/20184/105109/2016_90_StateOfTheArt_FactSheet_12-02-16.pdf/5fd3bfc6-f080-43bf-8f8c-28b8e41d2eec)
They need a different acronym. I thought you were talking about a new way for Illinois Tollways to get my money when I pass through the state.
Quote from: GeekJedi on January 10, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
Is it sad that I look at this pic and immediately notice I-90 between Chicago and Rockford? :-D
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Oh look, it zooms in.
Electricity is the future.
Quote from: dzlsabe on March 05, 2017, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: GeekJedi on January 10, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
Is it sad that I look at this pic and immediately notice I-90 between Chicago and Rockford? :-D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w9jol.com%2Fspace.jpg&hash=ae79eab4f3fca3f327f5161d6e4e9a98d8904d96)
Oh look, it zooms in.
Electricity is the future.
Cool picture I can indemnify where every city is.
I don't go here often, but I just noticed the LED signs are functioning, showing different messages. The Eastern segment of I-90 is pretty chill at night, besides the occasional left and middle lane hogs.
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What's really sad is that this highlights all the more how inadequate the portion of I-90 is once it merges into the Kennedy Expressway Eastbound. The outdated six lane portion once in the NW Side of Chicago really sticks out like a sore thumb badly now. I know they're doing some work to fix the merge, but I fear it's just going to be similar to what happened on the Hillside Strangler when they attempted to redo that.
Truly, I-90 is now a prime example in IL of how the Tollway seems to overall look like they have it together, but IDOT doesn't have a clue.
IDOT's currently widening 90 from cumberland to harlem to 4 lanes eastbound.
When is IDOT going to widen 90 from harlem to cumberland westbound?
CBS Chicago has a whole article that shows the latest NASA images over Chicago. The big change... I-90! :-D
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/04/13/chicago-night-nasa-satellite-image815861/
(https://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/chicago-2012.jpg)
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Elmhurst road interchange will be shifted to new traffic pattern next week (June 16th) after morning rush hour. Once switched traffic will be monitored through the weekend and signals adjusted while final ramp work is completed. On June 19th existing ramp (carrying traffic east) will re-open followed by the other ramp later in the week, weather dependent. Minor intersection work, landscaping will be completed after this work is complete along with other local road improvements that will be done by this fall on Elmhurst road.
Barrington road is looking more towards a late July, early August opening date. No clue why it is taking so long to finish this intersection other than possible subcontracting issues. Work continues on the Pace bus station which should be finished and up and running by this fall.
Quote from: quickshade on June 09, 2017, 11:17:54 AM
Elmhurst road interchange will be shifted to new traffic pattern next week (June 16th) after morning rush hour. Once switched traffic will be monitored through the weekend and signals adjusted while final ramp work is completed. On June 19th existing ramp (carrying traffic east) will re-open followed by the other ramp later in the week, weather dependent. Minor intersection work, landscaping will be completed after this work is complete along with other local road improvements that will be done by this fall on Elmhurst road.
Barrington road is looking more towards a late July, early August opening date. No clue why it is taking so long to finish this intersection other than possible subcontracting issues. Work continues on the Pace bus station which should be finished and up and running by this fall.
What about the Roselle WB entrance ramp via Central Road?
Quote from: I-39 on June 09, 2017, 07:15:21 PM
What about the Roselle WB entrance ramp via Central Road?
Has not even started - last I heard the project had a protest on the bids.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 09, 2017, 09:13:52 PM
Quote from: I-39 on June 09, 2017, 07:15:21 PM
What about the Roselle WB entrance ramp via Central Road?
Has not even started - last I heard the project had a protest on the bids.
What do you mean? That's dumb.
Then again, it IS Cook County..........
^ Best way to describe since I do not have any more details is that a contractor who bid on the project but was not the low bidder is complaining that something was not right with the bid process. One possibility is that more information was available to one or more bidders but was not available to the other bidders.
EDIT: On a related note, Bing Maps is showing the new ramp from Central Road to WB I-90 while not showing the currently open exit from EB I-90 to Roselle Road. https://binged.it/2s8weyD (https://binged.it/2s8weyD)
It looks like comed is getting new poles in place for it?? / central road work.
The DDI on I-90 at Elmhurst Road opened today!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Article: http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20170615/diverging-diamond-interchange-opens-at-elmhurst-road-and-i-90
So what was going on this week on 90 between Rockford and Elgin? I was hearing horror stories during rush hour that only one lane was open in both directions due to construction (tearing up new lanes was used multiple times)
Quote from: ET21 on June 17, 2017, 10:38:26 AM
So what was going on this week on 90 between Rockford and Elgin? I was hearing horror stories during rush hour that only one lane was open in both directions due to construction (tearing up new lanes was used multiple times)
Pavement repair and warranty work on both sides of the road from Rockford to Elgin. Some cracked segments were replaced and others were leveled out along with some shoulder pavement repairs and lighting work.
Folks may be interested to know what is going on north of the Wisconsin state line:
- Overpasses not already replaced in previous years are being replaced this year, including right at the state line (for aptly-named Stateline Rd).
- The NBD span of I-39/90 over the Rock River at Lake Koshkonong near Edgerton is nearing completion. Staging is in place to eventually route both directions of traffic onto it while the SBD side is rebuilt.
- The interchange at County N north of Stoughton (exit 147) is being reconstructed
- The NBD side of I-39/90 from the Dane county line north to around MM 153 or 154 is currently being reconstructed. Two lanes of traffic separated by center barrier is operating on the SBD side.
- Preparation work is in progress to perform similar work on the NBD side of I-39/90 from Beloit north through Janesville, shunting both directions of traffic to the SBD side.
Speeds are posted at 70 throughout aside from spot locations (at the Rock River, overnights at the overpass sites, etc). WisDOT is clearly under no delusion that people will follow a 45 mph speed limit for 40+ miles, unlike the ISTHA. Then again, WisDOT's temporary widening work is significantly more generous - there's two 12' lanes and 4' shoulders, with turnouts in the right shoulder at regular intervals. There's completed interstates that are less generous.
Quote from: JREwing78 on June 19, 2017, 07:03:57 PM
Folks may be interested to know what is going on north of the Wisconsin state line:
- Overpasses not already replaced in previous years are being replaced this year, including right at the state line (for aptly-named Stateline Rd).
- The NBD span of I-39/90 over the Rock River at Lake Koshkonong near Edgerton is nearing completion. Staging is in place to eventually route both directions of traffic onto it while the SBD side is rebuilt.
- The interchange at County N north of Stoughton (exit 147) is being reconstructed
- The NBD side of I-39/90 from the Dane county line north to around MM 153 or 154 is currently being reconstructed. Two lanes of traffic separated by center barrier is operating on the SBD side.
- Preparation work is in progress to perform similar work on the NBD side of I-39/90 from Beloit north through Janesville, shunting both directions of traffic to the SBD side.
Speeds are posted at 70 throughout aside from spot locations (at the Rock River, overnights at the overpass sites, etc). WisDOT is clearly under no delusion that people will follow a 45 mph speed limit for 40+ miles, unlike the ISTHA. Then again, WisDOT's temporary widening work is significantly more generous - there's two 12' lanes and 4' shoulders, with turnouts in the right shoulder at regular intervals. There's completed interstates that are less generous.
http://wisconsindot.gov/dtsdManuals/traffic-ops/manuals-and-standards/tgm/13/13-05-06.pdf (http://wisconsindot.gov/dtsdManuals/traffic-ops/manuals-and-standards/tgm/13/13-05-06.pdf)
This has more to do with Wisconsin and Illinois than anything else. Illinois mandates all construction zones be 45 M.P.H or less, while Wisconsin seems to have done the proper research on the subject. I'm inclined to side with Wisconsin on this one, as going from 65-70 down to 45 is disruptive to traffic, create backups that end up in more fender benders and creates dangerous situations in which people still do about 55-60 in construction zones in Illinois despite the speed limit. I'm all for protecting workers and reasonable speeds but Illinois just seems to lack an understanding of how people drive.
^ While the statewide highway standards for Illinois mandate a maximum of 45 for work zones on freeways and expressways, IDOT will sometimes only reduce the speed limit down to 55 unless there is active work near the open lane and/or narrow lanes. ISTHA on the other hand seems much more willing to go down to 45.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 19, 2017, 09:05:23 PM
^ While the statewide highway standards for Illinois mandate a maximum of 45 for work zones on freeways and expressways, IDOT will sometimes only reduce the speed limit down to 55 unless there is active work near the open lane and/or narrow lanes. ISTHA on the other hand seems much more willing to go down to 45.
ISTHA has 55 work zones.
not that people give a dam in some on the new parts of I-90 people where doing 70-80+ in them near the end of the work.
Not that I would fault them for the 45 MPH zones, some of those lane shifts and zero shoulders with a semi next to you were pretty scary even at 45 MPH. Those were some of the smallest lanes i've driven in doing speeds that fast, not to mention the uneven pavement. :-o
As of today some of the smart gantry boards over the right shoulder were active for eastbound I-90. One had a full color shield for I-290 with a travel time, one was a 'shoulder for emergency stopping only' type message, and another had an I-294 shield with a travel time. None of the other boards over the lanes or left shoulder were active.
Quote from: JREwing78 on June 19, 2017, 07:03:57 PM
Folks may be interested to know what is going on north of the Wisconsin state line:
- Overpasses not already replaced in previous years are being replaced this year, including right at the state line (for aptly-named Stateline Rd).
- The NBD span of I-39/90 over the Rock River at Lake Koshkonong near Edgerton is nearing completion. Staging is in place to eventually route both directions of traffic onto it while the SBD side is rebuilt.
- The interchange at County N north of Stoughton (exit 147) is being reconstructed
- The NBD side of I-39/90 from the Dane county line north to around MM 153 or 154 is currently being reconstructed. Two lanes of traffic separated by center barrier is operating on the SBD side.
- Preparation work is in progress to perform similar work on the NBD side of I-39/90 from Beloit north through Janesville, shunting both directions of traffic to the SBD side.
Speeds are posted at 70 throughout aside from spot locations (at the Rock River, overnights at the overpass sites, etc). WisDOT is clearly under no delusion that people will follow a 45 mph speed limit for 40+ miles, unlike the ISTHA. Then again, WisDOT's temporary widening work is significantly more generous - there's two 12' lanes and 4' shoulders, with turnouts in the right shoulder at regular intervals. There's completed interstates that are less generous.
You forgot that access to US 51 North - Stoughton exit going northbound 39/90 is closed. The posted detour is going north to N then crossing the highway and coming back down to 51 on 39/90. I would suggest just stay on N into Stoughton.
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 21, 2017, 09:40:58 PM
You forgot that access to US 51 North - Stoughton exit going northbound 39/90 is closed. The posted detour is going north to N then crossing the highway and coming back down to 51 on 39/90. I would suggest just stay on N into Stoughton.
County N's not exactly in a condition where that's an option - the old overpass across the interstate is halfway apart. SBD I-39/EBD I-90 traffic can access County N south, but not NBD I-39/WBD I-90 traffic.
Locals would take the US 51 South/Hwy 73 North exit north of Edgerton (exit 160), then follow Albion Rd and County A to Stoughton.
I know that but I didn't post the detour. I would have had the detour take Hwy A between Exit 160 and Exit 156. And posted the detour from I-39/90 to US 51 North at Exit 160.
ISP has finally started taking advantage of those obsessively low 55 mph speed limits. I've seen a lot of them around Arlington Heights Rd the past few weeks.
^^ Won't last. They're there for a bit, & it's back to business as usual.
Google Maps has updated their imagery for at least parts of Chicagoland. I-90 can be viewed in its mostly-complete state in Cook County around Schaumburg.
Smart road opening September 5
http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20170724/in-transit-how-tollway-travel-times-are-calculated
Some of the "smart road" boards have already been in use. I was on 90 on Wednesday and they had the left shoulder lane marked with either a red X or Pace Buse Lane on the boards. The travel time boards on the right have been used for over a month now.
What is the status on the Barrington EB exit ramp and the Roselle WB entrance ramp?
1. Open. 2. Not yet started.
^ I thought the eastbound exit to Barrington had some paving left to do but was getting close to done?
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 29, 2017, 10:17:46 AM
^ I thought the eastbound exit to Barrington had some paving left to do but was getting close to done?
I can't tell since the Live Images picture is out of date. And wasn't there still some paving left to do on the actual widening of Barrington Road as well?
Quote from: I-39 on July 29, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
And wasn't there still some paving left to do on the actual widening of Barrington Road as well?
Paving and installation of the permanent traffic signals at Central Road and Hassell Road IIRC.
EDIT: There still appears to be a small portion of the eastbound exit that needs the concrete poured, and a decent amount of barrier wall needs to be finished along either part of the ramp and/or the deceleration lane (hard to tell which part with the ramp blocked by a temp barrier).
As of today at least some of the smart road gantries are displaying a red X over the "bus lane" part of the inner shoulders, and four magenta dots in the corners of the smaller displays over the right side shoulder.
Taking I-90 a lot lately, traffic going west is pretty smooth from the Kennedy but there's a choke point from where I-290 merges on right before Roselle rd and traffic dips down to 30-40 mph in all lanes during afternoon rush hour
In the morning traffic there's another choke point going westward with cars getting stuck going 294 north.
Other than that, looks good. The narrow shoulder lanes under 294 looks cheap? Not sure what to exactly call it though.
Quote from: johndoe780 on August 30, 2017, 01:05:12 AM
Taking I-90 a lot lately, traffic going west is pretty smooth from the Kennedy but there's a choke point from where I-290 merges on right before Roselle rd and traffic dips down to 30-40 mph in all lanes during afternoon rush hour
In the morning traffic there's another choke point going westward with cars getting stuck going 294 north.
Other than that, looks good. The narrow shoulder lanes under 294 looks cheap? Not sure what to exactly call it though.
I have a feeling that will be resolved when they finish the Cumberland fly-over. The 294 north ramp needs something done, because that chokes traffic northbound on 294 at the merge to Touhy
Quote from: ET21 on August 30, 2017, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on August 30, 2017, 01:05:12 AM
Taking I-90 a lot lately, traffic going west is pretty smooth from the Kennedy but there's a choke point from where I-290 merges on right before Roselle rd and traffic dips down to 30-40 mph in all lanes during afternoon rush hour
In the morning traffic there's another choke point going westward with cars getting stuck going 294 north.
Other than that, looks good. The narrow shoulder lanes under 294 looks cheap? Not sure what to exactly call it though.
I have a feeling that will be resolved when they finish the Cumberland fly-over. The 294 north ramp needs something done, because that chokes traffic northbound on 294 at the merge to Touhy
Needs a flyover
A flyover to the 4th level will be steep.
Any ways the loop ramp can do better if made into an add a lane and have an add a lane from the other I-90 ramp.
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 30, 2017, 11:52:07 PM
A flyover to the 4th level will be steep.
Any ways the loop ramp can do better if made into an add a lane and have an add a lane from the other I-90 ramp.
If I'm not mistaken, Michigan DOT actually made southfield expressway and I-96 interchange flyovers pretty damn high.
Quote from: johndoe780 on August 31, 2017, 01:17:10 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 30, 2017, 11:52:07 PM
A flyover to the 4th level will be steep.
Any ways the loop ramp can do better if made into an add a lane and have an add a lane from the other I-90 ramp.
If I'm not mistaken, Michigan DOT actually made southfield expressway and I-96 interchange flyovers pretty damn high.
Assuming I'm looking at the correct interchange, there is not an airport near to the I-96/Southfield Expressway interchange. The most I would expect the interchange to get would be a larger radii loop ramp, or some sort of turbine/u-ramp design.
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 31, 2017, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on August 31, 2017, 01:17:10 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 30, 2017, 11:52:07 PM
A flyover to the 4th level will be steep.
Any ways the loop ramp can do better if made into an add a lane and have an add a lane from the other I-90 ramp.
If I'm not mistaken, Michigan DOT actually made southfield expressway and I-96 interchange flyovers pretty damn high.
Assuming I'm looking at the correct interchange, there is not an airport near to the I-96/Southfield Expressway interchange. The most I would expect the interchange to get would be a larger radii loop ramp, or some sort of turbine/u-ramp design.
It's not that close to O'Hare. ISTHA even has a stack interchange right at the edge of O'Hare with the I-90/294 interchange. There is no reason the Schaumburg I-90/290 one could not be a 4 level stack.
Quote from: Brandon on September 01, 2017, 06:10:47 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 31, 2017, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: johndoe780 on August 31, 2017, 01:17:10 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on August 30, 2017, 11:52:07 PM
A flyover to the 4th level will be steep.
Any ways the loop ramp can do better if made into an add a lane and have an add a lane from the other I-90 ramp.
If I'm not mistaken, Michigan DOT actually made southfield expressway and I-96 interchange flyovers pretty damn high.
Assuming I'm looking at the correct interchange, there is not an airport near to the I-96/Southfield Expressway interchange. The most I would expect the interchange to get would be a larger radii loop ramp, or some sort of turbine/u-ramp design.
It's not that close to O'Hare. ISTHA even has a stack interchange right at the edge of O'Hare with the I-90/294 interchange. There is no reason the Schaumburg I-90/290 one could not be a 4 level stack.
I was talking about I-90/I-294/I-190
Barrington Road full interchange was supposed to open yesterday. Did it?
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 01, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Barrington Road full interchange was supposed to open yesterday. Did it?
Looks like it did, official announcement and was mentioned on traffic reports yesterday
Quote from: ET21 on September 01, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 01, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Barrington Road full interchange was supposed to open yesterday. Did it?
Looks like it did, official announcement and was mentioned on traffic reports yesterday
It's about time! The contractor in charge of that part of the project really dropped the ball, and I hear that they still have a bit of work to do on Barrington Road itself! Oh well, better late than never, and nice that there will be a full interchange there! Question, ANY news on the WB Roselle Road Onramp? Or is Cook County totally asleep at the wheel there?
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 02, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
Question, ANY news on the WB Roselle Road Onramp? Or is Cook County totally asleep at the wheel there?
Only in the utility relocation stage still. Next piece of news I'd expect would be that the project has been officially delayed until the 2018 construction season.
http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20170905/smartroad-debuts-on-i-90
Smart road open
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 04, 2017, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on September 02, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
Question, ANY news on the WB Roselle Road Onramp? Or is Cook County totally asleep at the wheel there?
Only in the utility relocation stage still. Next piece of news I'd expect would be that the project has been officially delayed until the 2018 construction season.
So, basically, Cook County totally is asleep at the wheel. I imagine, behind the scenes, the tollway is pretty annoyed with them on this. I wonder if the ISTHA might eventually just take the lead on this, and force Cook County to pay them back or whatever. It shouldn't take this long to build a darn ramp!
Some updates from north of the border:
- Expansion work on NBD I-39/90 between Hart Rd in Beloit (just north of I-43) and US-14 in Janesville has begun. Two way traffic is in the SBD carriageway while work to rip up and replace the NBD begins. Work will continue through Spring 2020 on this segment, with traffic switching over to the NBD carriageway in late 2018 or early 2019.
- Work will wrap up this fall on the NBD carriageway between Newville and E. Church Rd (north of the Hwy 51 Stoughton exit); traffic will switch over to the NBD side while work occurs on the SBD side through 2018.
- Widening work on NBD I-39/90 from E. Church Rd to just south of the Hwy 12/18 interchange will start and run through 2018. SBD gets its turn in 2020.
- In Beloit, the I-43/Hwy 81 interchange begins reconstruction in Summer 2019, while related roadwork starts next summer and runs through Fall 2022.
North segment: https://projects.511wi.gov/i-39-90/wp-content/uploads/sites/145/North-Segment-Construction-Schedule.pdf (https://projects.511wi.gov/i-39-90/wp-content/uploads/sites/145/North-Segment-Construction-Schedule.pdf) corrected --sso
Central segment: https://projects.511wi.gov/i-39-90/wp-content/uploads/sites/145/Central-Segment-Construction-Schedule.pdf (https://projects.511wi.gov/i-39-90/wp-content/uploads/sites/145/Central-Segment-Construction-Schedule.pdf)
South segment: https://projects.511wi.gov/i-39-90/wp-content/uploads/sites/145/South-Segment-Construction-Schedule.pdf (https://projects.511wi.gov/i-39-90/wp-content/uploads/sites/145/South-Segment-Construction-Schedule.pdf)
Message boards have appeared indicating that Central Road will be closing on September 25th - perhaps the new entrance ramp construct will start this year after all.
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 15, 2017, 09:31:21 PM
Message boards have appeared indicating that Central Road will be closing on September 25th - perhaps the new entrance ramp construct will start this year after all.
But can they get it done before the end of the year?
Does anyone know why there's a single street light that's about 15 ft high compared to the rest that are about 25 ft high on 90 just a bit West of Arlington heights rd
Are there wires above or near the lamp? That's probably the reason why.
Quote from: ILRoad55 on September 21, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
Are there wires above or near the lamp? That's probably the reason why.
Nope
QuoteDoes anyone know why there's a single street light that's about 15 ft high compared to the rest that are about 25 ft high on 90 just a bit West of Arlington heights rd
Is there anything else taller in the
immediate vicinity? If not, it could be due to an O'Hare approach path.
Quote from: Jericho That on September 22, 2017, 08:17:23 AM
QuoteDoes anyone know why there's a single street light that's about 15 ft high compared to the rest that are about 25 ft high on 90 just a bit West of Arlington heights rd
Is there anything else taller in the immediate vicinity? If not, it could be due to an O'Hare approach path.
Nope, don't think it's because of O'hare. It's just one single street light near mile marker 70.
Quote from: johndoe780 on September 20, 2017, 11:44:43 PM
Does anyone know why there's a single street light that's about 15 ft high compared to the rest that are about 25 ft high on 90 just a bit West of Arlington heights rd
I think they installed a short one on purpose to see if anyone on the AARoads Midwest/Great Lakes forum noticed.
Quote from: Rick Powell on September 23, 2017, 12:50:54 AM
Quote from: johndoe780 on September 20, 2017, 11:44:43 PM
Does anyone know why there's a single street light that's about 15 ft high compared to the rest that are about 25 ft high on 90 just a bit West of Arlington heights rd
I think they installed a short one on purpose to see if anyone on the AARoads Midwest/Great Lakes forum noticed.
The tollway has a tendency to swap out light poles in spots here and there. Often, it seems when they do that, it's obviously not an exact match of the main installation in a spot. For example, the tollway normally uses truss style at probably about a 30 degree or so angle, but they might replace with a pole that has a truss at only a very slight angle from the ground. I am not too sure why they do that, but it seems to happen somewhat commonly, also with IDOT as well.
I-71 just north of OH 303 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brunswick,+OH+44212/@41.2428648,-81.7996625,3a,66.8y,138.49h,84.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh6pv4S2ISN6r21bSN8lYBw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830c0c7f187f093:0xb1ca052de3f12a66) has a similar single lower light pole among taller ones (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brunswick,+OH+44212/@41.2446276,-81.8002614,3a,17.3y,160.82h,88.29t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbYXJZtPFbW3e91j5XBZeww!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830c0c7f187f093:0xb1ca052de3f12a66). Replacement for a tall one that was knocked down. Forces didn't worry about the design or height, just that it was a light pole. It's very noticeable, especially at night.