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Started by Alex, January 21, 2009, 12:02:39 AM

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Alex

Just discovered on a recent drive to Mobile County that the extension of Mobile County 39 (McDonald Road) south from U.S. 90 to Mobile County 19 is underway! A partially built folded-diamond interchange has sat for several years awaiting two of its missing ramps and overpasses above U.S. 90 and its parallel railroad.



Ramps will also be added on the south side of the railroad with Park Boulevard.

In other Mobile County news, highway signs are now appearing for County highways throughout western reaches of the county. The pentagons all appear to be 18" in size and appear randomly at intersections between two county roads. I first spotted them at Cottage Hill and Schillinger Roads, and recently found more at Mobile County 5 at U.S. 98 in Wilmer and Mobile County 11 and 33 west of Dawes.


Alex

Even after ten years, signs posted at the Exit 27 interchange from Interstate 10 westbound still show U.S. 90 and 98 both traveling through the Bankhead Tunnel, even after the first signs went up in 1999 sending U.S. 90 northward. Additionally, doesn't this sort of relocation of U.S. 90 require AASHTO approval? Also I never saw any notes in the AASHTO log about the truncation of U.S. 43 northward to U.S. 90 at Bay Bridge Road.

Alex

There are still several signs along Papermill Road that still indicate U.S. 90/98T being U.S. 90T/98T. Considering the vacuum leftover from the International Paper plant closure in 2000, I doubt they will be updated anytime soon.

An additional observation from today, mileposts appeared for Alabama 158 recently, and they still reference the original end at U.S. 45. Street signs are finally up at the at-grade intersections along the new road with the exception of the cross roads with Dogwood Trail.

I wrote ALDOT about three issues earlier this week, we'll see if I get a response. One was the lack of signage for the Perdido River at the Florida state line. The second was the lack of signs for both Saraland and Loxley's municipal boundaries along the respective Interstates, where local police are now patrolling. Thirdly, I wrote about the choice of Pascagoula as the control city of Interstate 10 west.

Alex

Quote from: froggie on February 11, 2009, 07:26:50 PM
What would you prefer for a control city?


Biloxi or New Orleans.

I've thought about writing DOTD about the use of Bay St. Louis along Interstate 10 east too. Can't hurt to ask.

FDOT did alter the Interstate 4 eastbound signage for the Florida 546 exit to U.S. 92 after I emailed them. They had it displayed simply as "U.S. 92", and added a "TO" next to U.S. 92 after I pointed it out.

Alex

#4
The initial widening of Zeigler only entails about a half-mile of roadway...

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/123434732539660.xml&coll=3
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Zeigler Boulevard widening project moves forward
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
By DAN MURTAUGH
Staff Reporter

The Mobile City Council approved funding Tuesday for the early stages of a project to widen Zeigler Boulevard from Langan Park to west of University Boulevard.

The council voted 6-0 to put up $91,410 to acquire right-of-way for the project, which stretches from Forest Hill Drive to Athey Road.

The city's portion is 20 percent of the total cost of land acquisition. The state highway department will foot the bill for the remaining $367,000.

Norman Lumpkin, a spokesman for the state Department of Transportation, said the project is still being designed. The state won't begin purchasing land until the design is finished.

The total cost of the project will be about $11 million, according to documents from the Mobile Metropolitan Planning Organization.

Another project to widen Zeigler from Cody Road to Schillinger is also being designed, Lumpkin said. That project would cost about $5 million, according to planning organization documents.

City Councilwoman Gina Gregory, who represents the area that Zeigler goes through, said the state highway department will acquire land on the north side of the road so the project doesn't eat into Langan Park.

Gregory also said she's lobbying the highway department to put a sidewalk on one side of the road, and a bicycle path on the other.

Alex

And an FYI, Hillcrest Road's widening is almost complete between Girby Road and Three Notch Road.

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/1234952110217250.xml&coll=3

Mobile City Council approves roadwork
Wednesday, February 18, 2009
By DAN MURTAUGH
Staff Reporter

Mobile City Council members approved more than

$1 million in road repaving projects Tuesday and acquired land that will allow the widening of Cody Road.

The Mobile County Commission will pay for both projects through its Pay-As-You-Go program, which is funded by a countywide 6cm HALF-mill property tax.

Mobile City Councilwoman Connie Hudson said the

$2.75 million Cody Road project, which will add lanes from Cottage Hill Road to Pine Run Road, would be bid out in April.

The road resurfacing projects span all seven City Council districts. The city hired Hosea O. Weaver & Sons Inc. to do the roads for $1.35 million. City officials said they would be reimbursed by the county's Pay-As-You-Go fund.

Alex

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/1235643373214030.xml&coll=3
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U.S. 98 problems may be near end
Thursday, February 26, 2009
By RHODA A. PICKETT
Staff Reporter

Unresolved litigation, lack of funding and design changes continue to stand in the way of the U.S. 98 bypass in western Mobile County, but state transportation officials and local environmentalists say they remain "cautiously optimistic."

Meanwhile, the project budget has swelled from an original estimate of $42 million to more than $80 million, with paving far from complete.

"We are in the final stages of working out about four matters that would end the lawsuit," Vaughn Drinkard, the attorney for the Mobile Area Water and Sewer System, said Friday.

MAWSS sued the Alabama Department of Transportation in 2007 to correct a number of problems leading to erosion and sediment flowing into the Big Creek watershed and eventually into Big Creek Lake, threatening Mobile's drinking water supply. The Alabama Attorney General's Office subsequently filed a lawsuit against ALDOT.

The environmental group Mobile Baykeeper was allowed to intervene in both lawsuits. Mobile Baykeeper and MAWSS originally filed a lawsuit seeking to widen the existing U.S. 98 rather than build the new bypass.

State officials said the bypass was needed because of the number of deaths on the road some locals have dubbed "Bloody 98." From 1995 to 2008, there were 50 fatalities on a nearly 17-mile stretch of U.S. 98 from the Mobile city limits to the Mississippi/Alabama line.

"This is a high number, and that is why we initiated this project," said Tony Harris, a state highway department spokesman.

Matt Erickson, construction engineer for ALDOT's Ninth Division headquartered in Mobile, and Wilson Folmar with Thompson Engineering recently took the Press-Register on a tour of the overall project.

Transportation officials said they used several techniques in an effort to stabilize the roadway and keep dirt and clay from washing away: They paved an asphalt layer from near the Alabama/Mississippi line to Scarbo Creek. They rolled thousand of yards of coconut mesh and hydromulch, a type of grass seed, onto slopes. Engineers said crews have formed dual detention ponds for stormwater.

Workers have also drilled 6,600 anchors into the slopes for stability, and 26 million pounds of riprap have been brought in to buttress manmade hills and slow down stormwater runoff.

The bridges over Big Creek will be extended another 1,350 feet, and pipes installed in the bridges are designed to catch hazardous liquids that may leak following accidents, Erickson said.

The section from Schillinger Road to Interstate 65, which is the extension of Alabama 158, is completed and open to traffic.

The remaining 4-mile section between Glenwood and Schillinger roads has been sent back to the drawing board, Erickson said.

While state transportation Director Joe McInnes said he expects that the federal stimulus package will give the state some funding help, there is no timetable on when work will begin on the 4-mile stretch that will connect the two ends.

Tony Harris, ALDOT spokesman, said clearing and grading the first section was originally estimated at $21 million with another $21 million needed for paving.

By August 2008, officials acknowledged that the first section would be at least $18 million over budget. On Wednesday, Harris said the cost of the first section was now at $59 million, or $38 million over budget. About $9 million of that overrun is tied to a bridge that will cross Big Creek and the wetlands surrounding it, providing a measure of protection to Mobile's drinking water supply. And $4 million was spent putting a thin layer of asphalt over environmentally sensitive areas along the roadway.

Much of the added $25 million was spent addressing design flaws that have caused the steep, manmade hills supporting the roadway to collapse. Those design flaws resulted in massive quantities of mud flowing into the Escatawpa River, several creeks and Big Creek Lake.

Harris said raw materials used in roadbuilding have increased in cost as much as 40 percent. He was unsure how much paving the first section would run, and so could not estimate the project's final cost.

The middle section was estimated to cost $47.5 million in August 2007, but that total will increase, he said. Officials now believe that section will require more bridges, increasing costs further.

"It's frustrating because we made a mistake and we've fixed it and the litigation has been going on about a year and a half and the issues continue to grow," McInnes said last week. "We'd like to get this project completed and move on."

(Press-Register Staff Reporter Ben Raines contributed to this report.)

Alex

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/123650370375340.xml&coll=3



Toll bridge traffic, Orange Beach revenue dip
Sunday, March 08, 2009
By RYAN DEZEMBER
Staff Reporter

ORANGE BEACH – For the second straight year, traffic on the Foley Beach Express toll bridge has declined, and with it so has the revenue that this city collects in its partnership with the span's owners.

After more than 3.3 million vehicles used the bridge to cross the Intracoastal Waterway in 2006, annual traffic counts slid to 2.9 million in 2007 and to fewer than 2.5 million in 2008, according to municipal records.

Those same records show that Orange Beach's toll share – 21 cents per vehicle if the annual count stands between 2 million and 3 million; 36 cents if it exceeds 3 million – has plummeted from $1.2 million in 2006 to $525,000 last year.

Meanwhile, a back-of-the-napkin estimate suggests that American Roads, the company that acquired the bridge about two years ago and raised tolls by 50 percent, has probably seen its take soar despite the decrease in traffic.

Neal Belitsky, chief executive officer of the company, which acquired three other Alabama toll roads when it bought the Orange Beach bridge, said in an e-mail that several factors led to decreased bridge use last year. Among them, he said: an early and chilly spring break, "hurricane fears from mid-August through late September," a slumping economy and high fuel prices.

"Roads, from coast to coast, reported lower vehicle (counts)," wrote Belitsky, whose company also operates the Detroit-Windsor Tunnel at the Canadian border. "The Beach Express is no different."

Toll increase Orange Beach officials acknowledge that economic factors played some part in the traffic drop. But they say the main reason was the toll increase, which took effect in March 2007 and upped the one-way rate to $1.50 from $1 for city residents and to $3 from $2 for others.

"They're doing better with reduced numbers," Mayor Tony Kennon said. "They actually make more money because they don't have to pay us as much."

Without the company opening its books, it's hard to know how many of the 3,376,211 vehicles that crossed the span in 2006 did so at the reduced residential rate – then $1 – how many were trucks that paid higher tolls, or how many were emergency vehicles that paid no toll.

By the numbers For ease of illustration, assume that all the vehicles crossing the span paid the standard fee, which was $2 in 2006 and $3 last year.

In 2006, the 3,376,211 vehicles would have generated $6,752,422. Because more than 3 million vehicles used the bridge, Orange Beach collected 36 cents for each one, or $1,215,435.96, records show. That would have left more than $5.5 million for the bridge owners.

Last year, using the same assumption, the 2,499,540 vehicles paying $3 apiece would have generated $7,498,620. Of that, the city's take, which was 21 cents per vehicle because there were fewer than 3 million, was $524,842.68, according to municipal records. The bridge owners, meanwhile, would have collected $6,973,716.60.

While the company's toll income is almost certainly lower than those figures due to discounted residential rates and free crossings during storm evacuations, the model shows how, by increasing the tolls, American Roads could boost its take even as the city received less.

Orange Beach negotiated its partnership with the bridge's original owners – a group that included the sons of former Gov. Fob James – in 2004. In exchange for 10 annual $1.2 million payments, the owners agreed to give Orange Beach a royalty for each vehicle that crossed the bridge over 60 years.

During the deal's first 10 years – 2009 will be its sixth – the bridge's owners owe the city royalties that increase as annual traffic counts surpass million-vehicle thresholds. Under terms of the deal, it takes 3,333,334 vehicles at a 36-cents-apiece rate for Orange Beach to break even on its annual $1.2 million payment.

After 2013, the city will collect 25 cents per vehicle, no matter the annual traffic count, for 50 years.

Meeting sought Kennon said that while the arrangement is a long-term moneymaker, it's become a financial drag in the near-term. To that end, the mayor said he has requested a meeting with the company to see if the rate structure can be changed to increase traffic.

"They've been very cordial, but have not indicated that they would come off of the current toll price," Kennon said.

FLRoads

And I bet that they will somehow be convinced to raise the toll instead of lowering it as it has become the commonality in the United States to raise the tolls to increase revenue. Several metropolitan areas are already increasing their toll revenues due to lack of ridership. IMO, this method does not work. Lowering tolls would be the optimal solution as I think it would increase ridership, making it more feasible for a motorist to use the toll facility instead of nearby crowded freeways and arterials.

Alex

#9


Another Hurricane Evacuation Route

Checked this out today and construction is underway along 1.5 miles of new roadway, not two as the news article reported.

Alex

Quote from: froggie on March 09, 2009, 10:00:51 AM
Any idea what sort of interchange configuration they're looking at when they get up to I-10?


I've been in contact with a guy at ALDOT about other questions, including the new mileposts on Alabama 158 that count up from the U.S. 45 diamond interchange. After he writes me next, I'll inquire about the type of interchange at Baldwin County 68.

Alex

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/123659017595530.xml&coll=3



Hillsides crumble on new highway
ALDOT works to stabilize Ala. 158 west of Interstate 65
Monday, March 09, 2009
By BEN RAINES
Staff Reporter

While Ala. 158 has been open to traffic for more than a year west of Interstate 65 in north Prichard, the hillsides supporting the road continue to crumble, in some cases taking bits of asphalt from the edge of the shoulder.

For the past several weeks, crews could be seen along the road adding dump truck load after dump truck load of rocks the size of a man's head to some of the hills in an effort to stabilize them.

Officials with the Alabama Department of Transportation said such work likely will continue for several months.

"We knew we had some issues along 158 that would require monitoring," said Tony Harris, a highway department spokesman. "We still have to monitor some areas along Interstate 65 every day. That's part of our responsibility."

The new roadway begins in Saraland and runs through Prichard. One day, it will link U.S. 98 coming in from Mississippi to Interstate 65. Transportation Department engineers have blamed the slope problems on design flaws. Designers with the highway department failed to account for the abundant rain around Mobile and had a poor understanding of the difficulties posed by the high water table in the wetlands the roads were built upon, according to previous interviews with Transportation officials.

Press-Register reporters walking along the road last week noted that nearly every one of the manmade hillsides under the road had suffered some form of collapse. Most of those collapses have occurred since August when reporters last surveyed the stretch. Telltale heaps of rock riprap have been placed where the collapses occurred. In some cases, sections of the hillsides adjacent to the rocks also ap pear to be failing.

Transportation officials said that some of the hills had been undermined due to groundwater pumping up into the hills from the underground aquifer. Other hills had collapsed because of stormwater runoff during heavy rains.

Harris said that monitoring wells bored through the road surface suggest that the dirt under the roadway has begun to settle in most places. That should limit the number of hillside collapses as time goes by, he said.

Mud from the collapses does not appear to have washed into the wetlands surrounding the road, though that did happen with earlier hillside collapses on both Ala. 158 and along a new section of U.S. 98 now under construction.

Transportation officials said the agency had removed 185 cubic yards of mud from wetlands along Ala. 158 since August, roughly equivalent to 18 dump truck loads. Some mud was left in wetlands, either because removing it would cause further damage or because it had been in place so long that plants had begun to grow upon it.

"One of the things that may be caus ing some of the (slope failures) is we need our vegetation to come in a little better. Springtime will help us get our grass established a little better," Harris said. "Four-wheelers have also caused some damage to some of our areas. They were having fun driving on our hills. We've put riprap on some of the slopes so they can't drive on them anymore."

Harris said crews working on stabilizing the hills along the unfinished section of U.S. 98 with a system of anchors would soon begin work on Ala. 158.

That system uses anchors buried in the earth to hold sections of chain-link fence to the ground. Transportation engineers hope the chain-link fence will hold the soil in place during heavy rains and prevent collapses.

"We've said all along that taking responsibility for any problems and issues along the new route was part of our job," Harris said. "We will continue to do that as we do for all of our roads."

He was unsure how much the additional work had cost so far and how much more work ultimately would be required.

Alex

flaroadgeek and I checked out the Foley Beach Express extension road work yesterday. I've posted a few photos on the blog.

lamsalfl

not impressed with the FBE work.  that's bullshit.  they should freewaytize that whole corridor.

Alex

Mast arm signals are beginning to appear in the Mobile area. A new traffic light installed within the past few weeks on Grelot Road in Mobile has Mississippi-style assemblies with angled black poles.

Also, spotted more new County pentagon shields in west Mobile. These 18" assemblies are posted at Schillinger Road (CR-31) and Howells Ferry Road (CR-72). Its funny that I used to imagine what pentagons would look like signed at all of these previously unsigned intersections, and now they are reality!

Alex

Definitely county installs. FWIW, all of the shields are only 18" in size.


Alex

Yes, and installs along Mobile Interstate ramps, U.S. highways, and State Highways are standard 24" shields. I've noted the 18" shields at Cottage Hill and Schillinger and CR-7 north at U.S. 98 as well so far.

Alex

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/123866380945550.xml&coll=3



Traffic study buoys foes of proposed I-10 bridge
Thursday, April 02, 2009
By DAN MURTAUGH
Staff Reporter

Mobile's maritime community and others have renewed calls to defeat a proposed Interstate 10 bridge after a federal study found that the Wallace Tunnel was not among the top 35 traffic bottlenecks in the country.

Officials with Keep Mobile Moving, a group that Mobile shipyard owners set up to oppose a downtown bridge, said the study showed that less drastic measures could fix the I-10 traffic problem.

The study released by the Federal Highway Administration in November listed the overall top 30 bottlenecks in the U.S.

The worst was in Los Angeles, where Interstate 710 meets Interstate 105.

No portion of I-10 in the Mobile area made the list, while five other I-10 intersections did.

"What you keep hearing is that Mobile is one of the worst bottlenecks, and it just never shows up," said Steve Perry, a consultant working for Keep Mobile Moving. "We see periodic backups, but we don't see everyday, all-day backups."

Keep Mobile Moving is pushing an alternate solution that would use electronic signs, Interstate 65, Interstate 165, the Cochrane-Africatown USA Bridge and the Causeway to get drivers around the Wallace Tunnel when there are backups.

In November, the Alabama Department of Transportation decided to shelve Keep Mobile Moving's proposal and instead focus its energy on building a new bridge south of the tunnel.

Highway department spokesman Tony Harris said any study looking at traffic now does not consider future growth.

With a new steel plant and container terminal coming online in Mobile County, the growth in freight traffic alone could be substantial, he said.

"Our responsibility to plan for the future has provided us ample reason to invest significant time and money into planning how we keep I-10 flowing in a way that does not cause Mobile to be held hostage and cause interstate commerce to grind to a halt," Harris said.

Highway department officials said the northern route would not take enough traffic away from the Wallace Tunnel.

The highway department is looking at three proposed bridge routes and considering adding a fourth "compromise route" that would be between those three, Harris said.

In a speech to the Mobile Area Chamber of Commerce last week, highway department Director Joe McInnes said the department might be forced to "regulate" local access to the interstate if a bridge is not built.

"It would involve blocking all interstate ramps within the city and directing all local traffic through the Bankhead Tunnel and the Causeway," he said.

Shipyard owners have fought proposals for a new bridge because building one would cost Mobile's maritime economy between $41 million and $250 million a year, according to a report commissioned by the highway department.

The report states that a bridge could hurt the maritime industry in several ways:

Most oil rigs are too tall to fit under the bridge, so it would hurt Bender Shipbuilding's rig-repair facility north of the proposed routes.

A route that puts a bridge over the Alabama Cruise Terminal could cause Carnival Cruise Lines to stop docking there.

Any route would take land away from the shipyards along the riverfront, forcing them to cut back operations or completely close shop.

Mobile Mayor Sam Jones said Wednesday that at this point, local officials need to just find the least harmful bridge route and go with it.

"We don't need a national study to know if there's a bottleneck," he said. "We can just look out the window."

McInnes said the bridge would cost between $650 million and $700 million, and even if everything were approved today, it would take at least eight years to build.

Alex

Another road related article:

Mobile-area planning group OKs stimulus road projects

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/123866371745550.xml&coll=3

The main stimulus project elements include a new bridge for Michigan Avenue over the CSX Railroad near Brookley Field, some traffic light improvements/replacements in Mobile, a signal on U.S. 43 in Creola, and a handful of resurfacing projects throughout the Mobile metropolitan area.

Alex

Got a response from Mobile County regarding the spotty signage of new county pentagons:

The signing of route numbers on some of the county roads is to help those who use state maps (atlas) to travel.  Most state maps do not show road names.

We have completed this task and no additional route numbers are to be posted.  We only posted county roads in the unincorporated areas of the county.


So how is it helpful to have County Road 72 posted at one intersection and no where else?  :crazy:

Bryant5493

^^ Touché.


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Alex

And a further response when asked about the placement of county road signage:

The routes that are numbered are posted at all ends and at the major intersections (for county roads only).  We do not post on any state routes (they would have to do this, and have at many locations).

Alex

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/1239182161258240.xml&coll=3

Officials set to build Mobile County's first traffic roundabout
Wednesday, April 08, 2009
By RHODA A. PICKETT
Staff Reporter

Mobile County officials said they are ready to build the county's first roundabout at Airport Boulevard Connector and Grelot Road, with other traffic circles planned in the future.

County officials said federal studies indicate that installing roundabouts at intersections causes a 90 percent reduction in the number of fatalities and serious injuries that result from "T-bone" type crashes.

"These intersections will do a lot for us," County Commission President Mike Dean said in a statement.

County officials said they believe roundabouts will save lives, reduce accidents and move traffic through some of the area's busiest intersections.

The cost of the Airport-Grelot roundabout is estimated to be $700,000, County Engineer Joe Ruffer said Tuesday. The County Commission has yet to bid the project, which will also include quarter-mile sections leading into the five-way traffic circle, Ruffer said.

County officials point to a Federal Highway Administration study that indicates roundabouts have delivered a 67 to 80 percent reduction in fatalities and serious injuries, and a 35 percent reduction in all crashes.

"The engineering department is behind this, and they feel like it has a lot of merit, and they will do it at appropriate intersections going forward," said county spokeswoman Nancy Johnson. "It saves lives, it saves fuel, and it saves time."

County officials recently showed the Press-Register's editorial board how the roundabouts would operate using a computer program that used information from an actual Mobile County intersection.

The usual design of roundabout resembles any other four-right-angled intersection, but the design of the Airport-Grelot roundabout will have five intersections. That's a change from the original traffic circle plan that was introduced in March 2007.

Dawes Road was to meet the Airport Connector north of the intersection and end Dawes in a cul-de-sac before the intersection, a design that drew criticism from a couple of Dawes Road business owners.

The current design is "a good decision," said John Graham, owner of West Mobile Gym Fitness & Kung Fu on Dawes Road. Graham ran against Dean last year for the District 3 County Commission seat.

"If I had won the County Commission race, I would have put one (traffic circle) right there," said Graham, who has traveled roundabouts throughout Europe and China. "During hurricanes, when the power is out, you don't have to worry about the traffic light. I would support having them all over Mobile."

The single lane in the roundabout will be 15 feet wide, around a 160-foot wide center circle. Drivers entering the roundabout will yield to drivers already traveling within it, engineers said. The traffic will move in a clockwise direction.

Mobile County is also Alabama's first county to receive funding from the High Risk Rural Road Program. The funding received from the program will be used to build another roundabout at Three Notch and Dawes Lane. County engineers are considering a third roundabout at Cottage Hill, Repoll and Jeff Hamilton roads, Ruffer said.

County officials plan to meet later this month with residents living near the Airport-Dawes roundabout, Johnson said.

More information about roundabouts is posted at the county's Web site, www.mobilecountyal.gov.

Alex

Mobile County 39 extends southward from U.S. 90 on May 20, 2009. We checked it out three weeks ago and will definitely be driving it two weekends from now. Read more and see a few photos at https://www.aaroads.com/blog/?p=200

Also noted more 18" county shield installs, more toward northern parts of the county. CR 21 and 96's intersection is well signed now. Also new 18" CR reassurance shields are posted at the respective intersections with AL-217.

Alex

Is or was there ever a bypass route of Brewton planned? Also the talks of four-laning Alabama 41 have yet to come to fruition. Was this not something planners wanted in the early 2000s?

There is either a new overpass going up on U.S. 84 in Repton at Alabama 41, or they are twinning the route there. Judging by the age of the current railroad under pass, it appears to be a replacement.

When people say "Baldwin County does the best job of signing their county routes in the state", I see why now after visiting Washington, Clarke, and Conecuh Counties and seeing virtually no county reassurnace markers whatsoever. Take for instance the intersections of Washington Counties 1 and 20 and then Washington Counties 8 and 9; neither junction includes any signs in any direction.



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