Department of Redundancy Department

[jeffandnicole]

Pennsylvania's mile marker Zero and Zero-Tenths on US 1 at the Maryland state line:

How is that redundant?  Couldn't there be a [0  3/10] mile marker?

What is zero divided by ten?

Zero, of course.

But [0  0/10] and [0  3/10] are not the same thing.  So I guess my point is that [0  0/10] is only redundant if you also find [35  0/10] to be equally redundant.

The 0 Milepost and 0/10 on the same sign mean the same thing.  That's the redundant part of the picture.

[briantroutman]

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

[kphoger]

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

GSV here.

[Brandon]

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

GSV here.

Very decidedly not MUTCD-compliant.

[bob7374]

The sign replacement contractors along the eastern I-90/Mass Pike project have put up several redundant bridge height signs, one ground-mounted, the other on the bridge itself, such as the case here westbound in Framingham:

[kphoger]

The sign replacement contractors along the eastern I-90/Mass Pike project have put up several redundant bridge height signs, one ground-mounted, the other on the bridge itself, such as the case here westbound in Framingham:

What, you're saying that's not enough of an advance warning?   

[Flint1979]

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

Kind of looks like something you'd find in Ohio.

[formulanone]

I saw this grove of signs yesterday—across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

At least there's a state-named I-95 in that rogues' gallery.

[Flint1979]

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

At least there's a state-named I-95 in that rogues' gallery.

I found it on GSV. I just wanted to see if there was a stop sign on the other side of the street which there isn't.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6245917,-75.949434,3a,90y,172.26h,86.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swB3R1XPbonVxrMkg-1oWeg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[kphoger]

I found it on GSV.

You seriously hunted down the GSV?

↓ ↓  I just linked to the GSV six posts before yours.  ↓ ↓

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

GSV here.

Plus Brandon quoted my link in his next post.

[MNHighwayMan]

You seriously hunted down the GSV?

↓ ↓  I just linked to the GSV six posts before yours.  ↓ ↓

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We are in the redundancy thread, after all.

[Flint1979]

I found it on GSV.

You seriously hunted down the GSV?

↓ ↓  I just linked to the GSV six posts before yours.  ↓ ↓

I saw this grove of signs yesterday–across the street from a Flying J travel center in North East, MD. Note that these signs are across the street, so the warning to stop is on the other side of a through street (which does not need to stop for or yield to Flying J traffic).

GSV here.

Plus Brandon quoted my link in his next post.

It didn't take much to do it. I was already on Google Maps and just searched for Flying J near North East, Maryland. As soon as I clicked on the GSV I saw it.

[Mapmikey]

One of these shields is just like the other...

https://goo.gl/maps/8m8CgA7jYrH2

[hbelkins]

One of these shields is just like the other...

https://goo.gl/maps/8m8CgA7jYrH2

Should be Truck 19. They also need a Truck 11 in there, too, but apparently didn't have room for it.

That replaced a classic cutout sine salad.

[Mapmikey]

One of these shields is just like the other...

https://goo.gl/maps/8m8CgA7jYrH2

Should be Truck 19. They also need a Truck 11 in there, too, but apparently didn't have room for it.

That replaced a classic cutout sine salad.

2 generations removed...this was there in between the cutouts and the new LGS

https://goo.gl/maps/FDhBMWERP4D2


Even more confusing to a motorist is that there is a US 19 shield in a JUNCTION LGS on US 11-19 approaching the same intersection.

[bzakharin]

The sign replacement contractors along the eastern I-90/Mass Pike project have put up several redundant bridge height signs, one ground-mounted, the other on the bridge itself, such as the case here westbound in Framingham:

This one on thee Atlantic City Expressway is even better:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5546868,-74.7428667,3a,17.2y,131.48h,90.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8JYVGjvj1oKnILyVJOy_kw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[bcroadguy]

Douglas Rd     DOUGLAS RD.

I guess they just forgot to remove the old style sign..

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2574923,-122.9831744,3a,15y,136.07h,106.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skD6El6A_65XZX_vltVSFyQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[Scott5114]

Which is cool, 'cause the old one uses the old custom font!

[ErmineNotyours]

Douglas Rd     DOUGLAS RD.

I guess they just forgot to remove the old style sign..

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2574923,-122.9831744,3a,15y,136.07h,106.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skD6El6A_65XZX_vltVSFyQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Two generations of "Albro Place".

[US 89]

That reminds me of the intersection of 500 East and 1300 South in Salt Lake City:

https://goo.gl/maps/tniWoucobYt
https://goo.gl/maps/rg6QmEoubzz

In both cases, the redundant signs on the mast itself were carried over from the wire-span lights that were there before this intersection was upgraded to mast-arms around 2010. As you can tell from more recent GSV, they've now been removed.

[bzakharin]

That reminds me of the intersection of 500 East and 1300 South in Salt Lake City:

https://goo.gl/maps/tniWoucobYt
https://goo.gl/maps/rg6QmEoubzz

In both cases, the redundant signs on the mast itself were carried over from the wire-span lights that were there before this intersection was upgraded to mast-arms around 2010. As you can tell from more recent GSV, they've now been removed.

There is one like this in NJ I know of:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3798582,-74.5773087,3a,37.5y,300.53h,88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swFu6PfTVHTyNQuEdn0sKrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Both of these are new post-construction. If you play around with GSV, you'll see the old sign was just mounted on the pole.

[hotdogPi]

I-495 (MA), exit 19

[Ben114]

I-495 (MA), exit 19

These are freaking everywhere with the sign replacement

[roadfro]

^Which one is the replacement? I'd say the one with "Lowell" only, but that sure looks like a button copy shield which makes me think it's old I wouldn't think the paddle sign is newer given the all upper case control cities. Both have a taller "N" in "North"

[Ben114]

^Which one is the replacement? I'd say the one with "Lowell" only, but that sure looks like a button copy shield which makes me think it's old I wouldn't think the paddle sign is newer given the all upper case control cities. Both have a taller "N" in "North"

The one with Marlboro on it is the newer one.