Why does the NYS Thruway not sign for Rochester and Syracuse?

Started by James, August 26, 2022, 10:28:07 PM

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kalvado on March 01, 2023, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 01, 2023, 03:31:06 PM
Ok and we are talking Michigan control cities. A control city in Michigan doesn't have to be well known. Battle Creek has 50,000 people and a little more in outlying areas.
Going back to the NYS Thruway, Utica is bigger than Battle Creek and is not used as a control city.
And Battle Creek is bigger than Limon!
:ded:
Limon is bigger than Thru Traffic or Other Desert Cities.
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kphoger

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:35:06 PM
Limon is bigger than Thru Traffic or Other Desert Cities.

Actually, I bet the population size of Limon is smaller than the population size of either one.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:35:06 PM
Limon is bigger than Thru Traffic or Other Desert Cities.

Actually, I bet the population size of Limon is smaller than the population size of either one.
The city of Thru Traffic, Ohio does not exist so it has a population of 0. Neither does the city of Other Desert Cities, California.
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kphoger

Yeah, I get it.  Of course I get it.

Also, the city of Indiana, Illinois, does not exist.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2023, 03:48:09 PM
Yeah, I get it.  Of course I get it.

Also, the city of Indiana, Illinois, does not exist.
I mean at least ODC does refer to a group of cities. Should be Phoenix but whatever. Thru Traffic does not.
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kphoger

Just for reference:

Quote from: J N Winkler on March 07, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
"THRU TRAFFIC" was recommended for pull-through signs in the initial edition of the AASHO Interstate signing manual--this is part of the reason there are so many instances of "THRU TRAFFIC" still persisting.  The present control-cities policy and the decision map that goes with it postdate Interstate signing itself, though I am not sure by how much.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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kirbykart

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:38:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:35:06 PM
Limon is bigger than Thru Traffic or Other Desert Cities.

Actually, I bet the population size of Limon is smaller than the population size of either one.
The city of Thru Traffic, Ohio does not exist so it has a population of 0. Neither does the city of Other Desert Cities, California.

Excuse me, Thru Traffic is in New York. THRU TRAFFIC is the town in Ohio.

wanderer2575

Quote from: Flint1979 on February 23, 2023, 04:35:12 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 22, 2023, 11:20:59 PM
Well, we are all agreed then.  Battle Creek should never be a control city.
I wouldn't say that. If Battle Creek was a control city it wouldn't be that bad of a choice. And it is a control city in the state.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8791164,-85.0844337,3a,17.1y,118.86h,92.6t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sb4WQmS9TWVrpaae9JkQxJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Db4WQmS9TWVrpaae9JkQxJQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D155.35089%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

In this case, M-66 is a surface state route.  The practice for control cities on those routes generally seem to be a lot more relaxed than those for long-distance freeways (that's a whole other topic for discussion).  For example, I think it would be ridiculous for the control cities on this sign to be Sturgis and Charlevoix (M-66's terminal points).

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kirbykart on March 02, 2023, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:38:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:35:06 PM
Limon is bigger than Thru Traffic or Other Desert Cities.

Actually, I bet the population size of Limon is smaller than the population size of either one.
The city of Thru Traffic, Ohio does not exist so it has a population of 0. Neither does the city of Other Desert Cities, California.

Excuse me, Thru Traffic is in New York. THRU TRAFFIC is the town in Ohio.
What about the California thru traffic?
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webny99

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 02, 2023, 10:08:54 AM
What about the California thru traffic?

It exceeds the population of Limon no matter what interstate you're on.

Flint1979

Mackinac Bridge has a population of 0 and MDOT uses it for a control city

kalvado

Quote from: Flint1979 on March 02, 2023, 05:12:38 PM
Mackinac Bridge has a population of 0 and MDOT uses it for a control city
But maybe there is a MMM troll living under that bridge!

kirbykart

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 02, 2023, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on March 02, 2023, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:38:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 01, 2023, 03:35:06 PM
Limon is bigger than Thru Traffic or Other Desert Cities.

Actually, I bet the population size of Limon is smaller than the population size of either one.
The city of Thru Traffic, Ohio does not exist so it has a population of 0. Neither does the city of Other Desert Cities, California.

Excuse me, Thru Traffic is in New York. THRU TRAFFIC is the town in Ohio.
What about the California thru traffic?

It's a conspiracy theory.



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