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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3125 on: August 31, 2021, 10:15:11 PM »



This is the missouri side, from MO 90 and the 71 split at Pineville. They are coming along nicely but 30 day? Ehhh I donít know. Arkansas? Yes. Which is weird. But victory for ARdot
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3126 on: August 31, 2021, 10:16:55 PM »



This is the missouri side, from MO 90 and the 71 split at Pineville. They are coming along nicely but 30 day? Ehhh I donít know. Arkansas? Yes. Which is weird. But victory for ARdot

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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3127 on: September 01, 2021, 01:15:59 PM »

Will the new roadway be signed I-49 immediately?

Yes.

Technically, it already is, but the signs are covered. There are maybe 3 or 4 549 signa left at US 71 in Bella Vista.

Most of the signs aren't even covered anymore.  It's I-49 (with left lane closed in both directions for striping/shoulder/median/cable barrier work) already pretty much except at the south end.  Still no news from ARDOT on the exit renumbering south of Bella Vista yet.  I emailed them a few weeks ago, and they were pretty vague on the plan in the response.

That's news to me. As of a week ago (8/24) most of the signs were still covered.
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The signs at the junctions to the entrance ramps are likely still covered.  I'm thinking about the confidence signage on the road itself.  I don't remember seeing anything northbound that says AR-549 once you get up the hill from the south entrance.  I'll be up there in about 3 hours after I wrap up some work stuff and refresh my memory up to Rocky Dell Hollow Rd. and back.

As remembered, northbound has complete and uncovered signage once up the initial hill.  They are still working on inner shoulders, median grading, and cable barriers.  Southbound, some are uncovered, some aren't.  The restriping of the southbound carriageway is close to done, if not.  Arkansas will likely be done before Sept. 30 at this rate, but can't open up past Exit 289 until Missouri gets done.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3128 on: September 02, 2021, 10:25:45 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3129 on: September 02, 2021, 10:30:18 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3130 on: September 02, 2021, 10:37:37 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

Missouri's BVB Funding
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3131 on: September 02, 2021, 10:45:17 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3132 on: September 02, 2021, 10:48:28 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards

It didn't take much.  They really only needed to build a handful of overpasses and exit/entrance ramps as the road itself was mostly through farmland, other than a handful of cities which already had limited access connections.  I don't even think they had to do much in the way of access roads.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3133 on: September 02, 2021, 10:48:42 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards
I may be wrong but didnít Arkansas give Missouri like 25M to help complete it?
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3134 on: September 02, 2021, 10:52:46 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards
I may be wrong but didnít Arkansas give Missouri like 25M to help complete it?

You're thinking of the BUILD grant.  The NWARPC put in the application on behalf of Missouri, as Missouri really hasn't put much priority on McDonald County until these past 2 years when it became apparent they would get federal money to help complete the BVB.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3135 on: September 02, 2021, 10:57:16 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards
That's correct. Prior to its conversion to I-49 in late 2012, the section of US-71 between Pineville and Kansas City was a 4-lane divided highway, with some controlled-access sections and other sections that had at-grade intersections and some driveway accesses. Missouri focused on upgrading that portion of US-71 (roughly 180 miles) by eliminating the at-grade intersections by building interchanges and overpasses in some locations and closing off cross-roads into cul-de-sacs in other places. They also built frontage roads in a few places to eliminate any remaining driveway accesses to complete the conversion to an interstate-grade freeway.

MoDOT wanted to continue I-49 past I-435 to end at I-70, but a court settlement from 1985 prevents MoDOT from upgrading three signalized intersections on US-71 at Gregory Blvd, 59th St, and 55th St, on the south side of KC to full interchanges. Until another judge reverses that court order, US-71 between I-435 and I-70 cannot be upgraded to I-49.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3136 on: September 02, 2021, 11:01:59 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards
I may be wrong but didnít Arkansas give Missouri like 25M to help complete it?

You're thinking of the BUILD grant.  The NWARPC put in the application on behalf of Missouri, as Missouri really hasn't put much priority on McDonald County until these past 2 years when it became apparent they would get federal money to help complete the BVB.
When the application was put in by the NWARPC, McDonald County was considered part of the NWA MSA.  It was removed for some reason a few years ago, but I GUARANTEE that it will be put back into the MSA within the next 10-15 years as there's no way the growth here doesn't spill northward due to land prices in Benton/Washington/~Madison Counties.  If I had a spare penny to my name right now, I'd be real estate speculating along the MO-90 exit vicinity.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3137 on: September 02, 2021, 11:04:21 AM »

Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards
That's correct. Prior to its conversion to I-49 in late 2012, the section of US-71 between Pineville and Kansas City was a 4-lane divided highway, with some controlled-access sections and other sections that had at-grade intersections and some driveway accesses. Missouri focused on upgrading that portion of US-71 (roughly 180 miles) by eliminating the at-grade intersections by building interchanges and overpasses in some locations and closing off cross-roads into cul-de-sacs in other places. They also built frontage roads in a few places to eliminate any remaining driveway accesses to complete the conversion to an interstate-grade freeway.

MoDOT wanted to continue I-49 past I-435 to end at I-70, but a court settlement from 1985 prevents MoDOT from upgrading three signalized intersections on US-71 at Gregory Blvd, 59th St, and 55th St, on the south side of KC to full interchanges. Until another judge reverses that court order, US-71 between I-435 and I-70 cannot be upgraded to I-49.

That's about as likely to happen in the next 30 years as me hitting the lottery.  And I don't play the lottery.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3138 on: September 02, 2021, 11:23:02 AM »

Straightened out all the quote strings so far.  I believe there are three conversations.  Let me know if I got anything wrong.

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Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

Missouri's BVB Funding

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards

It didn't take much.  They really only needed to build a handful of overpasses and exit/entrance ramps as the road itself was mostly through farmland, other than a handful of cities which already had limited access connections.  I don't even think they had to do much in the way of access roads.









Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

Missouri's BVB Funding

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards

I may be wrong but didnít Arkansas give Missouri like 25M to help complete it?

You're thinking of the BUILD grant.  The NWARPC put in the application on behalf of Missouri, as Missouri really hasn't put much priority on McDonald County until these past 2 years when it became apparent they would get federal money to help complete the BVB.

When the application was put in by the NWARPC, McDonald County was considered part of the NWA MSA.  It was removed for some reason a few years ago, but I GUARANTEE that it will be put back into the MSA within the next 10-15 years as there's no way the growth here doesn't spill northward due to land prices in Benton/Washington/~Madison Counties.  If I had a spare penny to my name right now, I'd be real estate speculating along the MO-90 exit vicinity.








Sounds ambitious to get it all done in less than 30 days, but apparently AR is hellbent on having the whole thing open while MO has been sandbagging the project all along.

Missouri started later than Arkansas, but was supposed to finish around the same time (same contractor, IIRC)

Missouri started later because the money they had allocated to the project disappeared when Arkansas didn't have ours ready as they apparently have other needs in their state, go figure.  Then, Missouri for the last several years has had funding issues all around for road building and maintenance.  It took the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission to put in the application for the BUILD grant that Missouri got to complete Missouri's funding needs as they didn't have enough for their part until that point.

Missouri's BVB Funding

IIRC, much of the I-49 funding in Missouri was spent on upgrading US 71 to Interstate standards

That's correct. Prior to its conversion to I-49 in late 2012, the section of US-71 between Pineville and Kansas City was a 4-lane divided highway, with some controlled-access sections and other sections that had at-grade intersections and some driveway accesses. Missouri focused on upgrading that portion of US-71 (roughly 180 miles) by eliminating the at-grade intersections by building interchanges and overpasses in some locations and closing off cross-roads into cul-de-sacs in other places. They also built frontage roads in a few places to eliminate any remaining driveway accesses to complete the conversion to an interstate-grade freeway.

MoDOT wanted to continue I-49 past I-435 to end at I-70, but a court settlement from 1985 prevents MoDOT from upgrading three signalized intersections on US-71 at Gregory Blvd, 59th St, and 55th St, on the south side of KC to full interchanges. Until another judge reverses that court order, US-71 between I-435 and I-70 cannot be upgraded to I-49.

That's about as likely to happen in the next 30 years as me hitting the lottery.  And I don't play the lottery.
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« Reply #3139 on: September 02, 2021, 11:30:56 AM »

Went back and fixed my prior post as well since y'all don't have access to it. And, you're welcome!
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« Reply #3140 on: September 02, 2021, 12:04:21 PM »

"Official" word on I-49 Connector: likely first or second week of October, but nothing definite yet.
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« Reply #3141 on: September 02, 2021, 12:43:11 PM »

"Official" word on I-49 Connector: likely first or second week of October, but nothing definite yet.

It would be nice if they'd update I-49 Connector so that "official" could become official.
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« Reply #3142 on: September 02, 2021, 12:48:16 PM »

Checking the iDriveArkansas live camera at the south end of the US-71 interchange, looks like the mountain is in the process of taking its big dump on the offramp.  As far back as they're working on the top of the hill, it amazes me that this issue wasn't foreseen earlier in the construction, like when they blasted the hill the first time!
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« Reply #3143 on: September 02, 2021, 04:15:31 PM »

Checking the iDriveArkansas live camera at the south end of the US-71 interchange, looks like the mountain is in the process of taking its big dump on the offramp.  As far back as they're working on the top of the hill, it amazes me that this issue wasn't foreseen earlier in the construction, like when they blasted the hill the first time!

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« Reply #3144 on: September 10, 2021, 03:59:02 PM »

The hill to the south of the new interchange looks really different.  Take a look at the traffic cam on iDriveArkansas. 
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« Reply #3145 on: September 16, 2021, 10:53:28 PM »

OT, is there any overhead light on any stretch of 49 in NWA? IMO, it should have overhead lighting from the Boston mountains up to the Missouri line. With the amout of deer and fog in the winter months from Alma to Springdale. This should have been implemented 20+ years ago
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« Reply #3146 on: September 16, 2021, 11:12:04 PM »

OT, is there any overhead light on any stretch of 49 in NWA? IMO, it should have overhead lighting from the Boston mountains up to the Missouri line. With the amout of deer and fog in the winter months from Alma to Springdale. This should have been implemented 20+ years ago
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« Reply #3147 on: September 18, 2021, 02:40:50 AM »

Open to traffic October 1 (ostensibly 2021).:

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The Arkansas Department of Transportation (ArDOT) announced Friday (Sept. 17) the Bella Vista Bypass, or Missouri-Arkansas Connector, will open to traffic on Oct. 1. The completed highway will become a part of Interstate 49.

At 10 a.m. on Sept. 30, a ribbon-cutting celebration will take place to mark the completion of the 18.9-mile project. According to a news release, the new I-49 segment consisted of six projects totaling more than $220 million beginning in February 2011. Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and Missouri Gov. Mike Parson will join state officials and legislators at the Arkansas-Missouri state line for the celebration.

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« Reply #3148 on: September 18, 2021, 02:46:45 AM »

Wow this progressed pretty fast as far modern projects go. Props to them for this.
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Re: I-49 in Arkansas
« Reply #3149 on: September 18, 2021, 11:05:08 AM »

View from afar: I-49 vs I-57 seems like a tale of two new interstates

I-49: MO holds up the new construction BVB for a long while, focusing more on upgrading the existing US 71 Expressway, but heh, better later than never!

I-57: MO already has funding authorized and construction scheduled for the 2-lane US 67 upgrade south of Poplar Bluff to the AR state line, leaving the existing US 60 Expressway upgrades as the ďfinalĒ box to check for 57
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