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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2900 on: November 24, 2021, 11:35:55 AM »

I feel like the odds the rest of this interchange gets completed in my lifetime are relatively low...
https://www.patpconstruction.com/paturnpikei95/section-d40.aspx
"Construction planned when funding is identified"... translation: "we really don't care about the rest of this."
Not surprising at all.  The other movements are possible just not as directly.  And they're not nearly as important.

The only question is which is lower on their list: this or Breezewood?  :-D
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2901 on: November 24, 2021, 11:50:31 AM »

I'd rank the ramp pair importance from most to least in this way (only including the incomplete ones):

I-95 SB->I-295 EB and I-295 WB->I-95 NB
I-276 EB->I-95 SB and I-95 NB->I-276 WB
I-295 WB->I-276 WB and I-276 EB->I-295 EB

This is just based on how easy it is to make those movements presently without said ramps.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2902 on: November 24, 2021, 01:49:41 PM »

I feel like the odds the rest of this interchange gets completed in my lifetime are relatively low...
https://www.patpconstruction.com/paturnpikei95/section-d40.aspx
"Construction planned when funding is identified"... translation: "we really don't care about the rest of this."
Not surprising at all.  The other movements are possible just not as directly.  And they're not nearly as important.

The only question is which is lower on their list: this or Breezewood?  :-D

Breezewood isn't even on a list.

And technically, it's not a PTC problem. The PTC has an interchange. PennDOT has the traffic lights. PennDOT would need to work with the PTC to develop a revised interchange. Neither agency really cares.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2903 on: December 19, 2021, 11:28:06 PM »

I feel like the odds the rest of this interchange gets completed in my lifetime are relatively low...
https://www.patpconstruction.com/paturnpikei95/section-d40.aspx
"Construction planned when funding is identified"... translation: "we really don't care about the rest of this."
Not surprising at all.  The other movements are possible just not as directly.  And they're not nearly as important.

The only question is which is lower on their list: this or Breezewood?  :-D
That's crazy.
It really needs to have it where:
   95 SB connects to 295 EB
   295 WB connects to 95 NB
   295 WB connects to 276
   276 EB connects to 295 WB

Promptly
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2904 on: December 20, 2021, 02:15:27 PM »

I feel like the odds the rest of this interchange gets completed in my lifetime are relatively low...
https://www.patpconstruction.com/paturnpikei95/section-d40.aspx
"Construction planned when funding is identified"... translation: "we really don't care about the rest of this."
Not surprising at all.  The other movements are possible just not as directly.  And they're not nearly as important.

The only question is which is lower on their list: this or Breezewood?  :-D
That's crazy.
It really needs to have it where:
   95 SB connects to 295 EB
   295 WB connects to 95 NB
   295 WB connects to 276
   276 EB connects to 295 WB

Promptly
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2905 on: December 20, 2021, 02:36:40 PM »

I feel like the odds the rest of this interchange gets completed in my lifetime are relatively low...
https://www.patpconstruction.com/paturnpikei95/section-d40.aspx
"Construction planned when funding is identified"... translation: "we really don't care about the rest of this."
Not surprising at all.  The other movements are possible just not as directly.  And they're not nearly as important.

The only question is which is lower on their list: this or Breezewood?  :-D
That's crazy.
It really needs to have it where:
   95 SB connects to 295 EB
   295 WB connects to 95 NB
   295 WB connects to 276
   276 EB connects to 295 WB

Promptly
Your opinions belong in Fictional Highways. You have already been warned for the NJ Turnpike - don't add to it here.

He’s a bit of a pest, sure, and his opinion isn’t really valid here either, for sure… but fictional highways? These ARE planned connections… just not any time soon, apparently.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2906 on: December 20, 2021, 07:50:49 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2907 on: December 21, 2021, 03:30:08 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...

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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2908 on: December 21, 2021, 08:42:23 PM »

LOL The words promptly and Pennsylvania Turnpike don't normally occur in the same sentence. LOL
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2909 on: December 25, 2021, 08:19:54 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2910 on: December 25, 2021, 08:22:01 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2911 on: December 25, 2021, 11:07:35 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.
In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
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You don't really know the interstate system of the U.S. of A, do you.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2912 on: December 25, 2021, 11:39:47 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

Well, it did only became its parent a few years ago.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2913 on: December 26, 2021, 09:46:25 AM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.
In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.

You don't really know the interstate system of the U.S. of A, do you.

I wasn't talking about the USA, I was talking about Pennsylvania. In a state (PENNSYLVANIA) where its STILL perfectly acceptable for a mainline Interstate to follow a surface road to connect two separate portions of itself, then a partial interstate-interstate interchange is hardly shocking or outrageous.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2914 on: December 26, 2021, 06:04:57 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Maybe not, but couldn't they at least have official routes (TO North 95 or whatever) posted? At least Breezewood makes the I-70 routing clear.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2915 on: December 26, 2021, 06:13:55 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Maybe not, but couldn't they at least have official routes (TO North 95 or whatever) posted? At least Breezewood makes the I-70 routing clear.

Well... there are a few signs.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1502809,-74.8984529,3a,75y,164.68h,80.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHdngVZANgwN-lKnColiKQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1331268,-74.9773168,3a,75y,107.31h,87.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf-Oyj56bF0lIboEqPl1r7g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I guess they figure that if you are heading for I-295 east, you are already going to take Exit 351 anyway. But this is on the exit ramps
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1326101,-74.967696,3a,75y,96.93h,87.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTV0Vgn-nXLt4byzV704Bqw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2916 on: December 26, 2021, 06:17:39 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Maybe not, but couldn't they at least have official routes (TO North 95 or whatever) posted? At least Breezewood makes the I-70 routing clear.

Most people on 295 that go over the NJ Turnpike Extension don't realize they are doing so. But for those that do, and want to access it, the next exit Northbound is signed for I-95. Going SB, 2 exits south is signed to get to the NJ Tpk, which connects into it. Depending on their ultimate destination, there's probably numerous better options than to reverse course at that point.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2917 on: December 27, 2021, 01:52:07 AM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.
In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.

You don't really know the interstate system of the U.S. of A, do you.

I wasn't talking about the USA, I was talking about Pennsylvania. In a state (PENNSYLVANIA) where its STILL perfectly acceptable for a mainline Interstate to follow a surface road to connect two separate portions of itself, then a partial interstate-interstate interchange is hardly shocking or outrageous.

My quote attribution got mangled. I meant my sarcasm towards BlueCountry, not you Famartin.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2918 on: December 27, 2021, 09:26:39 AM »

Look at the bright side. I-95 is now seam less all its way from Miami to Canada. So it takes another life time to get the other movements done. Be happy with what we have.

The PTC and PennDOT will always move like molasses, nothing new.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2919 on: December 27, 2021, 11:17:35 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Maybe not, but couldn't they at least have official routes (TO North 95 or whatever) posted? At least Breezewood makes the I-70 routing clear.

Most people on 295 that go over the NJ Turnpike Extension don't realize they are doing so. But for those that do, and want to access it, the next exit Northbound is signed for I-95. Going SB, 2 exits south is signed to get to the NJ Tpk, which connects into it. Depending on their ultimate destination, there's probably numerous better options than to reverse course at that point.
That is absurd since unlike Breezewood, 95/295 basically 'should' function as a beltway for METRO Philly.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2920 on: February 03, 2022, 02:48:07 PM »

Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Seems to me those ramps are valid for a discussion of this interchange that they are planned to be a part of. Why wouldn't they be?
The actual ramps are. Opinions such as "promptly" are not useful and this poster's history is expressing opinions instead of facts. I'd like to avoid a meta-discussion...
Now you are splitting hairs and being really tickey tackey.

It is bad enough I-295 does not connect with I-95 in NJ in Burlington County.
To have no connection from I-295 to its parent highway I-95 in PA aside from NB 95 to WB 295 is outrageous.

In a state where Breezewood is accepted, the I-95/I-295/I-276 situation is not outrageous.
Maybe not, but couldn't they at least have official routes (TO North 95 or whatever) posted? At least Breezewood makes the I-70 routing clear.

Most people on 295 that go over the NJ Turnpike Extension don't realize they are doing so. But for those that do, and want to access it, the next exit Northbound is signed for I-95. Going SB, 2 exits south is signed to get to the NJ Tpk, which connects into it. Depending on their ultimate destination, there's probably numerous better options than to reverse course at that point.
That is absurd since unlike Breezewood, 95/295 basically 'should' function as a beltway for METRO Philly.
If you want a route that should be a beltway of metro Philly, I-295/I-276/I-476/I-95 will work much better.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2921 on: February 03, 2022, 03:28:49 PM »

If you want a route that should be a beltway of metro Philly, I-295/I-276/I-476/I-95 will work much better.

This is the closest you'll get today, or probably ever.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.0592996,-75.3264718/40.0858012,-74.7417523/39.7154172,-75.5739491/40.0592318,-75.3267487/@39.9167714,-75.2757079,10.87z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2922 on: February 03, 2022, 06:33:35 PM »

If you want a route that should be a beltway of metro Philly, I-295/I-276/I-476/I-95 will work much better.

This is the closest you'll get today, or probably ever.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.0592996,-75.3264718/40.0858012,-74.7417523/39.7154172,-75.5739491/40.0592318,-75.3267487/@39.9167714,-75.2757079,10.87z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0

That's about as long as the M25/A282 circling London, maybe longer.  About the length of two Washington Beltways.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #2923 on: February 03, 2022, 09:49:08 PM »

Well, this thread has gone to pot.
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