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Author Topic: How Come The Garden State Parkway Doesn't Have Such a Strong Conservation Lobby?  (Read 5752 times)

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The idea of the word "parkway" automatically denoting a commercial vehicle restriction is definitely a regionalism.

I know you're thinking of the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways, but even in DC, the Clara Barton/Suitland/GW Parkways are exactly as the name implies (in the NYC metro sense).

I kinda have long felt like the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways should have the name "Parkway" removed... they have little to do with being parklike.  If anything, they are implying a bucolic drive where there really isn't one.
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The only really "conservable" portion of the GSP is the old Route 4 section in Union/Middlesex, the section that still has some stone-faced overpasses. The rest is just a highway. Not really much worth preserving.

Honestly I'd like to see the NJTA invest in more stone-faced overpasses to make the GSP live up to the Parkway name a bit more. But I'd also like to see it upgraded to something closer to standard (particularly the express lane section lacking shoulders).  I'm pretty sure NJTA is much more likely to spend that money on the latter.
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The idea of the word "parkway" automatically denoting a commercial vehicle restriction is definitely a regionalism.

I know you're thinking of the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways, but even in DC, the Clara Barton/Suitland/GW Parkways are exactly as the name implies (in the NYC metro sense).

I kinda have long felt like the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways should have the name "Parkway" removed... they have little to do with being parklike.  If anything, they are implying a bucolic drive where there really isn't one.

The parkways in NoVA are well landscaped and have strict restrictions on development. I think they're pretty bucolic.
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The idea of the word "parkway" automatically denoting a commercial vehicle restriction is definitely a regionalism.

I know you're thinking of the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways, but even in DC, the Clara Barton/Suitland/GW Parkways are exactly as the name implies (in the NYC metro sense).

I kinda have long felt like the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways should have the name "Parkway" removed... they have little to do with being parklike.  If anything, they are implying a bucolic drive where there really isn't one.

The parkways in NoVA are well landscaped and have strict restrictions on development. I think they're pretty bucolic.

...this makes me think you've never seen the Fairfax County/Loudoun County/Prince William Parkways. Loudoun County Parkway, in particular, is just another suburban arterial highway - commercial and residential development everywhere and, of course, countless datacenters.
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The idea of the word "parkway" automatically denoting a commercial vehicle restriction is definitely a regionalism.

I know you're thinking of the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways, but even in DC, the Clara Barton/Suitland/GW Parkways are exactly as the name implies (in the NYC metro sense).

I kinda have long felt like the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways should have the name "Parkway" removed... they have little to do with being parklike.  If anything, they are implying a bucolic drive where there really isn't one.

The parkways in NoVA are well landscaped and have strict restrictions on development. I think they're pretty bucolic.

...this makes me think you've never seen the Fairfax County/Loudoun County/Prince William Parkways. Loudoun County Parkway, in particular, is just another suburban arterial highway - commercial and residential development everywhere and, of course, countless datacenters.
I did use google streetview.
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The idea of the word "parkway" automatically denoting a commercial vehicle restriction is definitely a regionalism.

I know you're thinking of the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways, but even in DC, the Clara Barton/Suitland/GW Parkways are exactly as the name implies (in the NYC metro sense).

I kinda have long felt like the Fairfax/Loudoun/Prince William parkways should have the name "Parkway" removed... they have little to do with being parklike.  If anything, they are implying a bucolic drive where there really isn't one.

No, I wasn’t thinking of the arterials you mention, or at least not solely. The three you note with restrictions are National Park Service roads, so I distinguish those because they play by their own rules. There are all sorts of roads called "parkways" that don’t have the sort of "No Commercial Traffic" restriction that’s common in the New York area. True, oftentimes that word is just slapped on a road for no apparent reason.
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Many said it should have been named "Garden State Freeway or Highway".
Or "Garden State Turnpike."
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The idea of the word "parkway" automatically denoting a commercial vehicle restriction is definitely a regionalism.
To your point, trucks were never prohibited on Kentucky's parkways, most of which are being promoted to interstates.
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Wasn't "parkway" roughly the same thing as "interstate" before Interstates actually became a thing? They were the among the first network of limited access roads here in NY and elsewhere.
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