The universe according to MMM

[Max Rockatansky]

Now an orgy in Star Trek is something I think that would remember.  Do you have an episode citation for said orgy?

[kphoger]

Now an orgy in Star Trek is something I think that would remember.  Do you have an episode citation for said orgy?

Star Trek:  Lower Decks
Season 2, Episode 8
I, Excretus

[kphoger]

I'm so glad this thread is now about sexual deviants.  I wonder when it will get back around to aviation.

[abefroman329]

I'm so glad this thread is now about sexual deviants.  I wonder when it will get back around to aviation.

Sex...aviation...sex..aviation...

Anyone here a member of the Mile High Club?

[Max Rockatansky]

Eventually Max will change the title. Considering this is the 3rd or 4th thread he's creating solely on my comment, he's gonna want to keep it accurate. Then he'll accuse me of destroying my own thread LOL

Don't count on it.

Now an orgy in Star Trek is something I think that would remember.  Do you have an episode citation for said orgy?

Beverly Crusher getting aroused while reading her grandmother's diary while getting screwed by an 800 year old ghost is one example. "Precious Cargo" in Enterprise is just the most adolescent way to depict sexuality possible. In Voyager, Harry Kim's choices are let's see:

Borg
Dead girlfriend
The wrong twin

And Tom:

A shuttlecraft
A 3 year old (Kes)
His captain when she turned into a Lizard
A half klingon

Yeah, totally normal sexuality. In fact I think Star trek has the most excessive, impulsive, deranged sexuality of any TV series I've ever watched in my life.

I feel compelled to ask, are any of these on screen acts of anything that can be considered insinuating their-way sexual acts?  Or this just you not understanding what the difference is between a love triangle and an orgy?  I merely watched Star Trek casually, you seem to have encyclopedic knowledge of the sexual acts which take place in the shows.

[abefroman329]

Now an orgy in Star Trek is something I think that would remember.  Do you have an episode citation for said orgy?

Beverly Crusher getting aroused while reading her grandmother's diary while getting screwed by an 800 year old ghost is one example. "Precious Cargo" in Enterprise is just the most adolescent way to depict sexuality possible. In Voyager, Harry Kim's choices are let's see:

Borg
Dead girlfriend
The wrong twin

And Tom:

A shuttlecraft
A 3 year old (Kes)
His captain when she turned into a Lizard
A half klingon

Yeah, totally normal sexuality. In fact I think Star trek has the most excessive, impulsive, deranged sexuality of any TV series I've ever watched in my life.

Hey, let's not forget The Naked Now.

[kphoger]

I mean give me a fucking break.

The month of November wasn't enough of a break?

[Max Rockatansky]

And then all the crap with Q mating with Janeway, there is less sex in some porn videos than there are in star trek episodes.

Can we expect you to begin reviewing the plot lines of porn movies next?

[kphoger]

Now an orgy in Star Trek is something I think that would remember.  Do you have an episode citation for said orgy?

Star Trek:  Lower Decks
Season 2, Episode 8
I, Excretus

I feel compelled to ask, are any of these on screen acts of anything that can be considered insinuating their-way sexual acts?  Or this just you not understanding what the difference is between a love triangle and an orgy?

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[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

None of those appear to be orgies.

Also, I'm just finding out now that there is an adult Star Trek cartoon.  Not sure how I missed that one.

[Max Rockatansky]

I mean give me a fucking break.

The month of November wasn't enough of a break?

I only made it 23 days. And I partly blame star trek for that.

If you were into Seinfeld, you'd still would have outlasted George in The Contest:

[kphoger]

Not yet master of your domain, huh?

[kphoger]

I only made it 23 days. And I partly blame star trek for that.

It's Star Trek's fault inasmuch as rape is the victims' fault.  If you can't watch Star Trek without needing sexual release, then the problem is with you, not the show.

Also... now I'm imagining a young guy on Long Island wanking off to mental images of cartoon space explorers.  And it's kind of depressing.

[abefroman329]

And then all the crap with Q mating with Janeway, there is less sex in some porn videos than there are in star trek episodes.

Can we expect you to begin reviewing the plot lines of porn movies next?

" ...and he never fixed the cable! Why did he even come over in the first place?"

[Max Rockatansky]

And then all the crap with Q mating with Janeway, there is less sex in some porn videos than there are in star trek episodes.

Can we expect you to begin reviewing the plot lines of porn movies next?

" ...and he never fixed the cable! Why did he even come over in the first place?"

Can't argue a "service"  was provided though. 

[kphoger]

Thank you for posting this. Now I can go 60 days without doing it.

Wait, what?  I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you were originally referring to that episode, then mentioned others later.  Apparently |Max Rockatansky| was right, and you can't distinguish an orgy from any other romantic escapade.

[kphoger]

Smaller planes like that, and private planes, should be in the 4000-5000 mph range. 2000-3000 mph is more reasonable for commercial airliners due to their extreme mass. Only issue with that is the extreme friction generated heated in the atmosphere. Imagine looking out your window and only seeing a huge fireball the whole time!

here's what I think reasonable, IDEAL, transportation speeds are, if all the engineering and safety kinks could be worked out:

Commercial Jumbo Jets: 1000-1500 mph
Average Commercial Airliners: 2000-3000 mph
Private Planes: 4000-5000 mph

it shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours to travel anywhere on the Earth

Looking out the window and only seeing a huge fireball the whole time:  that would only last 2-3 hours, tops.  For most trips, it would be less.  Besides, the airlines could simply require that everyone pull the window shades down, just as they currently do on the B787 or upcoming Air Bus A350.

[Scott5114]

oops I missed it.

One other criticism I give of star trek is not the fact that they never zoom in closer on the panels when the crew is doing something. My criticism is that when they do, they literally will just put a few random 3 digit numbers next to control buttons. Like, if you are going to deliberately get a good shot, At least put something realistic like "override" or "shield modulation" or "power distribution", "processor core 2", "internal scan", "emergency bulkhead", "plasma conduit 5"..etc, and not just 347, 447, 3829..etc. Put some menus on the helms station that say "warp field" "course coordinates", "impulse speed"..etc, with submenus when tapped, not just the same exact display on every console with screens that don't change at all when you tap them. I mean they could have at least tried.

They could have "tried" with the labels, but it wouldn't have mattered much, since most of the series were filmed in the 90s when televisions were 640x480 px standard definition. The labels would have been too blurry to read on the screen, so they didn't bother putting anything creative there. Thus why most of the time, small incidental text like this would be random numbers or injokes like "GNDN" (standing for "goes nowhere and does nothing").

They couldn't have done the animated menus thing on TNG or DS9 because their "touch screen" panels were just printed Plexiglas with incandescent light bulbs behind it. Touch screens didn't really exist yet in real life. The first Star Trek set with actual video elements in the consoles was on the bridge set of Voyager, and even that took something like twelve Mac computers to do all of the animations on (thus why they hadn't attempted doing that sort of thing before). They also weren't real touch screens, as while they now existed, they were prohibitively expensive.

I've noticed a lot of your more uninformed posts are caused by an assumption that the level of technology we have now goes back to Benjamin Franklin's time or something. You may want to fill in that gap in your knowledge, lest you accidentally make yourself look like a fool in front of someone more important than random people on a Web forum.

[Scott5114]

In the 90s, they had more technology than the interfaces displayed on star trek, especially the original series. Alot of star trek was written in the 90s and early 2000s, not the 60s, and 70s.

Sure, the tech existed. But they weren't in consumer-grade devices in the 90s because they kind of sucked and were expensive as hell. Full-color touch screens just weren't a thing you saw in day to day life, which meant that 1) that's the whole reason they're in a futuristic sci-fi setting (duh), 2) it would have been fucking stupid to spend the money to put a real touch screen with a real interface in there when it wasn't even going to be visible on anyone's CRT screen anyway.

[abefroman329]

Thus why most of the time, small incidental text like this would be random numbers or injokes like "GNDN" (standing for "goes nowhere and does nothing").

On TNG, Enterprise was rumored to have a button labeled Infinite Improbability Drive.

[Scott5114]

Thus why most of the time, small incidental text like this would be random numbers or injokes like "GNDN" (standing for "goes nowhere and does nothing").

On TNG, Enterprise was rumored to have a button labeled Infinite Improbability Drive.

Sounds plausible. There was a book published called the Star Trek TNG Technical Manual which was written from an in-universe point of view as kind of an "owner's manual" for the Enterprise. It contained a lot of the rules about how various things were supposed to work that they tried to stick with behind-the-scenes to be self-consistent. Many sections included actually-legible prints of the various consoles and displays seen around the ship. The sickbay readout had various meters detailing vital patient statistics, like heart rate, respiratory rate, blood-oxygen rate...and "Medical Insurance Remaining".

[kkt]

In the bonus features for the DS9 DVDs they give close-up pictures of some of them and talk about them.  They were never supposed to be seen clearly on the air, so a lot of them are in jokes.  Names of various show crew who usually don't get their names seen, favorite Hollywood hangouts, etc.

[MultiMillionMiler]

Speaking of DVD sets, when I ordered the voyager set last year, they sent me DS9 by mistake. I immediately requested a switch, felt like suing for getting the worst series instead of the best one. Took another week for the correct set to come.

[Max Rockatansky]

Speaking of DVD sets, when I ordered the voyager set last year, they sent me DS9 by mistake. I immediately requested a switch, felt like suing for getting the worst series instead of the best one. Took another week for the correct set to come.

Hyperbole or are you actually being serious?

[kkt]

Speaking of DVD sets, when I ordered the voyager set last year, they sent me DS9 by mistake. I immediately requested a switch, felt like suing for getting the worst series instead of the best one. Took another week for the correct set to come.

I hope is not considering suing for having to exchange and it taking another week.  For heaven's sake.  The justice system is a blunt instrument for serious inequities, not for having to wait a week for an entertainment item.

And if you really think Voyager is the best Star Trek series, well, I just feel sorry for you.