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Quote from: bwana39 on January 21, 2022, 12:06:29 AMQuote from: Arkansastravelguy on January 20, 2022, 04:17:17 PMI noticed the numbers were changed as well. I imagine we wont see 49 completed in my lifetime iPhone Somebody who knows, is there a federal or AASHTO standard for how exit numbers are assigned?What is this in reply of? I need some context....https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg2698027#msg2698027And in confirmation of my suspicion, I took the entire BVB to Joplin on the way to Cabool, MO to pick up a topper for my truck, and sure enough, there is no longer any I-49 exit in Arkansas greater than 105 now. But we do have the desirable state of having multiple mile markers that are now duplicates in the range of 20-42! Can't for the life of me reconcile why they did this. Now AR-549 from US-71 to AR-22 stands out like a sore thumb of sensibility!
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on January 20, 2022, 04:17:17 PMI noticed the numbers were changed as well. I imagine we wont see 49 completed in my lifetime iPhone Somebody who knows, is there a federal or AASHTO standard for how exit numbers are assigned?What is this in reply of? I need some context....
I noticed the numbers were changed as well. I imagine we wont see 49 completed in my lifetime iPhone
What was the point of renumbering?
Quote from: yakra on January 22, 2022, 07:09:07 PMQuote from: MikieTimT on January 21, 2022, 10:14:19 AMhttps://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg2698027#msg2698027And in confirmation of my suspicion, I took the entire BVB to Joplin on the way to Cabool, MO to pick up a topper for my truck, and sure enough, there is no longer any I-49 exit in Arkansas greater than 105 now. But we do have the desirable state of having multiple mile markers that are now duplicates in the range of 20-42! Can't for the life of me reconcile why they did this. Now AR-549 from US-71 to AR-22 stands out like a sore thumb of sensibility!Your linked post mentions 284 -> 99. What are the new numbers for 287 & 289?I assume the significance of 105 is that that's the mile number at the Missouri line?Exit 287 is now Exit 102. I haven't actually noticed there being mile markers on the BVB portion yet. Now Google Maps has bad information yet again for the BVB, and it's not even been open that long. This is why we can't have nice things...
Quote from: MikieTimT on January 21, 2022, 10:14:19 AMhttps://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg2698027#msg2698027And in confirmation of my suspicion, I took the entire BVB to Joplin on the way to Cabool, MO to pick up a topper for my truck, and sure enough, there is no longer any I-49 exit in Arkansas greater than 105 now. But we do have the desirable state of having multiple mile markers that are now duplicates in the range of 20-42! Can't for the life of me reconcile why they did this. Now AR-549 from US-71 to AR-22 stands out like a sore thumb of sensibility!Your linked post mentions 284 -> 99. What are the new numbers for 287 & 289?I assume the significance of 105 is that that's the mile number at the Missouri line?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg2698027#msg2698027And in confirmation of my suspicion, I took the entire BVB to Joplin on the way to Cabool, MO to pick up a topper for my truck, and sure enough, there is no longer any I-49 exit in Arkansas greater than 105 now. But we do have the desirable state of having multiple mile markers that are now duplicates in the range of 20-42! Can't for the life of me reconcile why they did this. Now AR-549 from US-71 to AR-22 stands out like a sore thumb of sensibility!
Here's a pair of videos I shot from my smartphone today of the Bella Vista Bypass complete with the new?/old? exit numbers from Gravette northward.Northbound from south of Exit 93//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7TRCHo3o-kSouthbound from Exit 5//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q8EZXWx7sEShot at 5x speed. You can adjust speed settings within YouTube to 0.25 speed if you're trying to catch exit numbers.I also recommend bumping up to 1080p in the settings if your Auto resolution looks crappy.
Quote from: MikieTimT on January 25, 2022, 05:14:01 PMHere's a pair of videos I shot from my smartphone today of the Bella Vista Bypass complete with the new?/old? exit numbers from Gravette northward.Northbound from south of Exit 93//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7TRCHo3o-kSouthbound from Exit 5//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q8EZXWx7sEShot at 5x speed. You can adjust speed settings within YouTube to 0.25 speed if you're trying to catch exit numbers.I also recommend bumping up to 1080p in the settings if your Auto resolution looks crappy.It makes no sense to continue the old I-540 exit numbering scheme along the Arkansas side of the BVB. Actually, I'm surprised the FHWA is letting Arkansas get away with that. When the first section of the I-69 extension in Indiana opened in 2012, I recall the FHWA required INDOT to renumber exits on the original Indy to Michigan section of I-69 (they made it easy and just added 200 to the existing exit numbers).
It makes no sense to continue the old I-540 exit numbering scheme along the Arkansas side of the BVB. Actually, I'm surprised the FHWA is letting Arkansas get away with that. When the first section of the I-69 extension in Indiana opened in 2012, I recall the FHWA required INDOT to renumber exits on the original Indy to Michigan section of I-69 (they made it easy and just added 200 to the existing exit numbers).
Quote from: abqtraveler on January 25, 2022, 06:31:37 PMIt makes no sense to continue the old I-540 exit numbering scheme along the Arkansas side of the BVB. Actually, I'm surprised the FHWA is letting Arkansas get away with that. When the first section of the I-69 extension in Indiana opened in 2012, I recall the FHWA required INDOT to renumber exits on the original Indy to Michigan section of I-69 (they made it easy and just added 200 to the existing exit numbers).I wonder if FHWA even knows at this point. It was just changed days ago, so Covid-induced staffing issues at FHWA could possibly hamper them keeping up with DOTs doing arbitrary things like this that affect several sectors, like marketing for area businesses and mapping systems. Why couldn't they have just gone ahead and changed mile markers and exits 20-93 like they will eventually have to do anyway, especially once they connect Alma to Barling? Was it that difficult or expensive a project to do at this point in time? Are they going to go back and introduce negative mile markers and exits on the Chaffee Crossing section of Future I-49/AR-549 when the river valley is crossed?
Quote from: MikieTimT on January 26, 2022, 05:22:49 AMQuote from: abqtraveler on January 25, 2022, 06:31:37 PMIt makes no sense to continue the old I-540 exit numbering scheme along the Arkansas side of the BVB. Actually, I'm surprised the FHWA is letting Arkansas get away with that. When the first section of the I-69 extension in Indiana opened in 2012, I recall the FHWA required INDOT to renumber exits on the original Indy to Michigan section of I-69 (they made it easy and just added 200 to the existing exit numbers).I wonder if FHWA even knows at this point. It was just changed days ago, so Covid-induced staffing issues at FHWA could possibly hamper them keeping up with DOTs doing arbitrary things like this that affect several sectors, like marketing for area businesses and mapping systems. Why couldn't they have just gone ahead and changed mile markers and exits 20-93 like they will eventually have to do anyway, especially once they connect Alma to Barling? Was it that difficult or expensive a project to do at this point in time? Are they going to go back and introduce negative mile markers and exits on the Chaffee Crossing section of Future I-49/AR-549 when the river valley is crossed? Maybe they'll just count down from 20... the US 71 interchange is right around where it would hit 0.(let's hope, meanwhile, that ARDOT doesn't get any ideas from this comment...)
When they finish Arkansas River Bridge and connecting the Barling segment to I-40 will be right around the time they plan to be constructing at least the first two lanes between Barling and Y City, which would add another 50 miles to what's already there now. At some point they're going to have to address the exit numbers on the Alma to Missouri section.
Quote from: vdeane on January 26, 2022, 12:51:52 PMQuote from: MikieTimT on January 26, 2022, 05:22:49 AMQuote from: abqtraveler on January 25, 2022, 06:31:37 PMIt makes no sense to continue the old I-540 exit numbering scheme along the Arkansas side of the BVB. Actually, I'm surprised the FHWA is letting Arkansas get away with that. When the first section of the I-69 extension in Indiana opened in 2012, I recall the FHWA required INDOT to renumber exits on the original Indy to Michigan section of I-69 (they made it easy and just added 200 to the existing exit numbers).I wonder if FHWA even knows at this point. It was just changed days ago, so Covid-induced staffing issues at FHWA could possibly hamper them keeping up with DOTs doing arbitrary things like this that affect several sectors, like marketing for area businesses and mapping systems. Why couldn't they have just gone ahead and changed mile markers and exits 20-93 like they will eventually have to do anyway, especially once they connect Alma to Barling? Was it that difficult or expensive a project to do at this point in time? Are they going to go back and introduce negative mile markers and exits on the Chaffee Crossing section of Future I-49/AR-549 when the river valley is crossed? Maybe they'll just count down from 20... the US 71 interchange is right around where it would hit 0.(let's hope, meanwhile, that ARDOT doesn't get any ideas from this comment...)When they finish Arkansas River Bridge and connecting the Barling segment to I-40 will be right around the time they plan to be constructing at least the first two lanes between Barling and Y City, which would add another 50 miles to what's already there now. At some point they're going to have to address the exit numbers on the Alma to Missouri section.
Quote from: abqtraveler on January 26, 2022, 01:10:40 PMQuote from: vdeane on January 26, 2022, 12:51:52 PMQuote from: MikieTimT on January 26, 2022, 05:22:49 AMQuote from: abqtraveler on January 25, 2022, 06:31:37 PMIt makes no sense to continue the old I-540 exit numbering scheme along the Arkansas side of the BVB. Actually, I'm surprised the FHWA is letting Arkansas get away with that. When the first section of the I-69 extension in Indiana opened in 2012, I recall the FHWA required INDOT to renumber exits on the original Indy to Michigan section of I-69 (they made it easy and just added 200 to the existing exit numbers).I wonder if FHWA even knows at this point. It was just changed days ago, so Covid-induced staffing issues at FHWA could possibly hamper them keeping up with DOTs doing arbitrary things like this that affect several sectors, like marketing for area businesses and mapping systems. Why couldn't they have just gone ahead and changed mile markers and exits 20-93 like they will eventually have to do anyway, especially once they connect Alma to Barling? Was it that difficult or expensive a project to do at this point in time? Are they going to go back and introduce negative mile markers and exits on the Chaffee Crossing section of Future I-49/AR-549 when the river valley is crossed? Maybe they'll just count down from 20... the US 71 interchange is right around where it would hit 0.(let's hope, meanwhile, that ARDOT doesn't get any ideas from this comment...)When they finish Arkansas River Bridge and connecting the Barling segment to I-40 will be right around the time they plan to be constructing at least the first two lanes between Barling and Y City, which would add another 50 miles to what's already there now. At some point they're going to have to address the exit numbers on the Alma to Missouri section.Taking their sweet time as usual?
Oh, they'll punt as long as possible on this now that they've renumbered the northern 3 exits. Funky having the Chaffee Crossing exits being 187 to 193 with Alma to Rocky Dell Hollow Rd. being 20 to 104. They'll have to address it before they'll get approved to change the Chaffee Crossing portion of Future I-49 to just I-49 when everything is done in the river valley gap.Just crickets from the Public Relations Officer with ARDOT on the email I sent about why they chose to make a backwards change.
Quote from: MikieTimT on January 27, 2022, 09:39:11 PMOh, they'll punt as long as possible on this now that they've renumbered the northern 3 exits. Funky having the Chaffee Crossing exits being 187 to 193 with Alma to Rocky Dell Hollow Rd. being 20 to 104. They'll have to address it before they'll get approved to change the Chaffee Crossing portion of Future I-49 to just I-49 when everything is done in the river valley gap.Just crickets from the Public Relations Officer with ARDOT on the email I sent about why they chose to make a backwards change.Highlands Blvd has the new numbering sequence (or DID)
Quote from: US71 on January 28, 2022, 03:05:28 PMQuote from: MikieTimT on January 27, 2022, 09:39:11 PMOh, they'll punt as long as possible on this now that they've renumbered the northern 3 exits. Funky having the Chaffee Crossing exits being 187 to 193 with Alma to Rocky Dell Hollow Rd. being 20 to 104. They'll have to address it before they'll get approved to change the Chaffee Crossing portion of Future I-49 to just I-49 when everything is done in the river valley gap.Just crickets from the Public Relations Officer with ARDOT on the email I sent about why they chose to make a backwards change.Highlands Blvd has the new numbering sequence (or DID) Do any of the other exits along the bypass have some of the new numbering?