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Continuous US Routes that are not signed that way

Started by roadman65, October 20, 2018, 12:23:16 PM

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roadman65

I was thinking about US 67 as well as other routes such as US 40, 50, parts of US 6 and even US 63 where some of the states they transit will not sign them on interstate overlaps due to redundancy.

Many states like Colorado won't even acknowledge both US 40 and US 50 as one continuous routes in their logs, but have them as two separate segments of the same route.


I can think of many others as well.

US 77
US 85
US 287
US 54
US 84
US 87

Any others that are not signed in places that give them the illusion that they have two different segments?

BTW do not count US 20 in WY.  It is actually two segments and not one continuous E-W highway as far as the FHWA is concerned so its not official.
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corco

US 20 in Wyoming has a break in signage through Yellowstone

hotdogPi

US 9 and US 10 are continuous, but they're obviously not signed on the ferries.
US routes (31, 36, 40, 52, 421; 136 actually ends there) "hide" on I-465 around Indianapolis.
US 441 through Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
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Big John

Do US 12 and US 52 in Minnesota count as there are BGS telling them to follow the interstate?

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Max Rockatansky

US 85 is the undisputed grand champion in this arena south of Denver on I-25 south towards El Paso.  I don't believe US 70 or US 180 is Signed on I-10 in New Mexico.  I'm fairly certainly US 180 isn't signed on I-40 in Arizona. 

oscar

Quote from: 1 on October 20, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
US 9 and US 10 are continuous, but they're obviously not signed on the ferries.

US 10 is signed on its ferry crossing, on the Wisconsin side and also the vessel itself, though there is a US 10 Ends sign assembly on the Michigan side.
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Roadwarriors79

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 20, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
US 85 is the undisputed grand champion in this arena south of Denver on I-25 south towards El Paso.  I don't believe US 70 or US 180 is Signed on I-10 in New Mexico.  I'm fairly certainly US 180 isn't signed on I-40 in Arizona.

Arizona usually signs its US/Interstate overlaps. I-40 and US 180 are featured here:

https://www.aaroads.com/guides/i-040-east-winslow-az/

hbelkins

And then you have cases like the I-57/US 60 overlap in Missouri, where US 60 signs are just stuck beneath the I-57 markers almost as an afterthought, without the proper directional banner. So, for a short section between Sikeston and Charleston, US 60 is signed as a N-S route.


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cjk374

Quote from: hbelkins on October 20, 2018, 04:32:22 PM
And then you have cases like the I-57/US 60 overlap in Missouri, where US 60 signs are just stuck beneath the I-57 markers almost as an afterthought, without the proper directional banner. So, for a short section between Sikeston and Charleston, US 60 is signed as a N-S route.

At least they are there. Wait til Arkansas gets hold of a bunch of I-57 shields and starts putting them out. Bye-bye US/67/167/64 shields.  :-( :-( :banghead: :banghead:
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Tennessee:

Around Chattanooga, US-11 and 64 disappear when they overlap with I-75.  US-27 disappears at I-24.

In Knoxville, US-11E, 70, and 25W disappear on I-40 east of I-640.


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jp the roadgeek

US 1 goes into hiding for it's short concurrency with I-95 in Pawtucket, RI.  Granted it's one exit, but the BGS's on  I-95 don't mention cardinal directions at the splits nor are there any US 1 reassurance shields on I-95.

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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on October 20, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 20, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
US 85 is the undisputed grand champion in this arena south of Denver on I-25 south towards El Paso.  I don't believe US 70 or US 180 is Signed on I-10 in New Mexico.  I'm fairly certainly US 180 isn't signed on I-40 in Arizona.

Arizona usually signs its US/Interstate overlaps. I-40 and US 180 are featured here:

https://www.aaroads.com/guides/i-040-east-winslow-az/

Funny, I thought that I would have remembered that...it was only 2 years ago since I was on I-40/US 180.  I know for certain I-10/US 95 is co-signed:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6602561,-114.2411696,3a,75y,166.56h,72.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-XmyhobSb6o_c-BsKTh4lQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

jon daly

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 20, 2018, 10:31:08 PM
US 1 goes into hiding for it's short concurrency with I-95 in Pawtucket, RI.  Granted it's one exit, but the BGS's on  I-95 don't mention cardinal directions at the splits nor are there any US 1 reassurance shields on I-95.



How are things in CT. I'm blanking now. The only concurrency that I regularly travel on is the Gold Star Bridge.

english si

Quote from: corco on October 20, 2018, 12:30:57 PMUS 20 in Wyoming has a break in signage through Yellowstone
US 20 in Wyoming has a break in existence through Yellowstone.

Sorry, but this is due to it not being a continuous route rather than a signage failure.

Roadwarriors79

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 20, 2018, 11:06:17 PM
Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on October 20, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 20, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
US 85 is the undisputed grand champion in this arena south of Denver on I-25 south towards El Paso.  I don't believe US 70 or US 180 is Signed on I-10 in New Mexico.  I'm fairly certainly US 180 isn't signed on I-40 in Arizona.

Arizona usually signs its US/Interstate overlaps. I-40 and US 180 are featured here:

https://www.aaroads.com/guides/i-040-east-winslow-az/

Funny, I thought that I would have remembered that...it was only 2 years ago since I was on I-40/US 180.  I know for certain I-10/US 95 is co-signed:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6602561,-114.2411696,3a,75y,166.56h,72.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-XmyhobSb6o_c-BsKTh4lQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

In fairness, where US 60 overlaps with I-17 and I-10, US 60 is signed on its mainline, but at some cross streets either I-10 or I-17 is mentioned, but US 60 is not acknowledged.

corco

Quote from: english si on October 21, 2018, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: corco on October 20, 2018, 12:30:57 PMUS 20 in Wyoming has a break in signage through Yellowstone
US 20 in Wyoming has a break in existence through Yellowstone.

Sorry, but this is due to it not being a continuous route rather than a signage failure.

Yeah I know, I just don't like being told what to do

Eth

US 23 disappears on I-985, which is particularly odd because I believe every other concurrency on Georgia's interstates is signed in full (including GA 5 on the entirety of I-575).

TEG24601

Quote from: corco on October 20, 2018, 12:30:57 PM
US 20 in Wyoming has a break in signage through Yellowstone


I don't count any National Park breaks as actually being breaks.  The routes just go from being state maintained to being federally maintained... and are signed, just not with the official signs.


Unsigned Continuous routes would include all of the US routes that are supposed to circle Indiana cities like Ft. Wayne, Indianapolis, and Lafayette, but are usually just not signed from one side to the other.
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Quote from: TEG24601 on October 21, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: corco on October 20, 2018, 12:30:57 PM
US 20 in Wyoming has a break in signage through Yellowstone


I don't count any National Park breaks as actually being breaks.  The routes just go from being state maintained to being federally maintained... and are signed, just not with the official signs.


Unsigned Continuous routes would include all of the US routes that are supposed to circle Indiana cities like Ft. Wayne, Indianapolis, and Lafayette, but are usually just not signed from one side to the other.

I've only ever seen signage directing you to the exits in Yellowstone along with what routes are at those exits.  There never has been anything ever put out by Yellowstone implying any particular Road is a US Route.  That would be akin to people in California calling the Tioga Road part of CA 120 in Yosemite.  An actually example of a US Route existing in a National Park but isn't Signed is US 34 over the Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park.  If I recall correct US 34 is Maintained by CDOT and not the NPS. 

hbelkins

Quote from: mrcmc888 on October 20, 2018, 07:44:57 PM
Tennessee:

Around Chattanooga, US-11 and 64 disappear when they overlap with I-75.  US-27 disappears at I-24.

In Knoxville, US-11E, 70, and 25W disappear on I-40 east of I-640.

Of course, US 74 is not signed whatsoever on its concurrency with I-75.  And in your Knoxville example, the only route concurrent with I-40 is 25W. 11E and 70 are never concurrent with it.


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Mapmikey

Quote from: TEG24601 on October 21, 2018, 12:20:38 PM


I don't count any National Park breaks as actually being breaks.  The routes just go from being state maintained to being federally maintained... and are signed, just not with the official signs.




This is not universal...US 441 is supposedly no longer signed through GMSP and it was officially removed as the designation within the park boundaries by AASHTO in November 1970.

OTOH, US 33 and US 211 are fully signed and maintained by VDOT through Shenandoah NP.

froggie

QuoteOTOH, US 33 and US 211 are fully signed and maintained by VDOT through Shenandoah NP.

Begs the question of whether the ROW along both routes is actually part of the park or isn't because it's owned by VDOT...

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: jon daly on October 21, 2018, 08:04:42 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 20, 2018, 10:31:08 PM
US 1 goes into hiding for it's short concurrency with I-95 in Pawtucket, RI.  Granted it's one exit, but the BGS's on  I-95 don't mention cardinal directions at the splits nor are there any US 1 reassurance shields on I-95.



How are things in CT. I'm blanking now. The only concurrency that I regularly travel on is the Gold Star Bridge.

CTDOT has actually done a decent job in the Danbury area of marking the quadplex on I-84.  While the BGS's don't show it, there are reassurance markers for all 4 roads; I-84 and US 7 appear on one dual signpost, and US 6 and 202 appear on the other.    https://goo.gl/maps/j52QDCUPpDG2

CTDOT's general practice is not to include a US route on the BGS with an interstate route in a concurrency (both on pull-thrus and at entrances).  The only exceptions I see are in the Danbury area where US 7 gets preferential treatment by getting BGS status with I-84; and at the southern end of CT 9 where US 1 appears along with I-95 on all BGS's for the Baldwin Bridge area concurrency.   US-state concurrencies (such as US 5/CT 15) have each signed equally on BGS's and signposts, except that the new practice at the I-91 interchange in Hartford is to eliminate US 5 from overhead signage.  State-state concurrencies (such as CT 8/25) are treated as equals on all signage.   
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