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I-10 Between Casa Grande and Phoenix to be FINALLY Widened???

Started by thenetwork, January 31, 2023, 08:29:41 PM

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thenetwork

Looks like the State of Arizona if FINALLY going to finish the missing 3rd lane gap, hell or high water.

https://www.abc15.com/news/operation-safe-roads/i-10-improvement-project-to-start-despite-lack-of-federal-funding?_amp=true

It's about time!!!


KeithE4Phx

It says they still don't have the money yet.  But AFAIK, they did work out a deal with the Gila River Indian Community to allow it to proceed.  Most of that road is on their land, and they fought it for years.

Living in east Mesa, I don't have to deal with that garbage when I drive to Tucson.  AZ 79, despite being a two-lane road, is much faster for us.  Once the new Pinal North-South Freeway between I-10 at Eloy and US 60 at Apache Junction is built (maybe in my lifetime, but I'm 67 so who knows?), it'll be even easier.
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kwellada

Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 31, 2023, 08:51:38 PM
Living in east Mesa, I don't have to deal with that garbage when I drive to Tucson.  AZ 79, despite being a two-lane road, is much faster for us.  Once the new Pinal North-South Freeway between I-10 at Eloy and US 60 at Apache Junction is built (maybe in my lifetime, but I'm 67 so who knows?), it'll be even easier.

AZ 79 is a generally enjoyable drive as it goes through the lush desert vegetation south of Florence. I tend to take it from Tucson to the East Valley as well, since usually that's the area I visit (Lost Dutchman State Park, etc). My only grumble is Oracle Road north of Tucson seems to often be an exercise in hitting nearly every red light along the way.

machias

Quote from: kwellada on February 01, 2023, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 31, 2023, 08:51:38 PM
Living in east Mesa, I don't have to deal with that garbage when I drive to Tucson.  AZ 79, despite being a two-lane road, is much faster for us.  Once the new Pinal North-South Freeway between I-10 at Eloy and US 60 at Apache Junction is built (maybe in my lifetime, but I'm 67 so who knows?), it'll be even easier.

AZ 79 is a generally enjoyable drive as it goes through the lush desert vegetation south of Florence. I tend to take it from Tucson to the East Valley as well, since usually that's the area I visit (Lost Dutchman State Park, etc). My only grumble is Oracle Road north of Tucson seems to often be an exercise in hitting nearly every red light along the way.

We tend to take AZ 79 as well. It's a beautiful drive and usually we can move right along nicely through there.  I agree about Oracle Road, and the speed limits are all over the place, especially in Pima County.  Pinal County seems a little more relaxed with their approach, even though it's probably all determined by the state. 

thenetwork

I've taken AZ-87 between Mesa and Picacho, which was also a nice, calming alternative.

Also weird seeing separate mile markers for the paralleling canal.

kdk

I'm not sure if it saves me much time, but rather than heading west to hit I-10, I often take Gilbert Rd down to the 87, then to the 187 south to I-10.  There's maybe 2 miles or so of a two lane I-10 before it widens.

DJStephens

If they do proceed, with out the Federal monies, they will probably "budgetize" and do what they did immediately S of the four lane stretch.  Casa Grande environs and immediately N.  Shift the main lanes at the older five span overcrossings, instead of going all out, with new two span replacements.   Kind of cheesy, but at least it leaves a ultimate build out of all widening to the outside, in the future.  Once the funds for the overcrossing replacements are sourced.  Better than doing it really cheap, and going to the inside.   McCartney Road / I-10 is a prime example of what am speaking of.  Believe some of this "shifting" is apparent in the Casa Grande environs as well.   

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DJStephens

Supposedly construction started on the replacement Gila R bridges on Monday 5/13/24.  Very old structures, they lack shoulders so they are pre 1967. But virtually no de-icing chemicals, or salt, so indefinite lifespan.    No details or schematics of the replacement structures, on the web link.  For 50 million, perhaps they are simply going to rehab and widen the existing pair of structures.   

Plutonic Panda

Quote from: DJStephens on May 15, 2024, 06:02:38 PMSupposedly construction started on the replacement Gila R bridges on Monday 5/13/24.  Very old structures, they lack shoulders so they are pre 1967. But virtually no de-icing chemicals, or salt, so indefinite lifespan.    No details or schematics of the replacement structures, on the web link.  For 50 million, perhaps they are simply going to rehab and widen the existing pair of structures.   
It looks like they will be completely new bridges:

QuoteConstruction of the new Gila River bridges over I-10 is one segment of the project's four segments that are being delivered. Crews will construct the new bridges next to the existing ones. Also, any planned roadway restrictions during the construction of the bridge will take place overnight to minimize the impact on motorists. Work for the entire project corridor is expected to take place between early 2024 through late 2028.

- https://azdot.gov/news/construction-new-i-10-bridges-over-gila-river-begins

Sonic99

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on May 15, 2024, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: DJStephens on May 15, 2024, 06:02:38 PMSupposedly construction started on the replacement Gila R bridges on Monday 5/13/24.  Very old structures, they lack shoulders so they are pre 1967. But virtually no de-icing chemicals, or salt, so indefinite lifespan.    No details or schematics of the replacement structures, on the web link.  For 50 million, perhaps they are simply going to rehab and widen the existing pair of structures.   
It looks like they will be completely new bridges:

QuoteConstruction of the new Gila River bridges over I-10 is one segment of the project's four segments that are being delivered. Crews will construct the new bridges next to the existing ones. Also, any planned roadway restrictions during the construction of the bridge will take place overnight to minimize the impact on motorists. Work for the entire project corridor is expected to take place between early 2024 through late 2028.

- https://azdot.gov/news/construction-new-i-10-bridges-over-gila-river-begins

I'm curious as to how they're going to do this. I know with the Salt River bridge in the Broadway Curve project, they are just adding extra piers next to the existing ones. If I had to guess, they'll do like I've seen them do in Tucson and Build half of the new bridge right next to the existing ones, then shift traffic onto them, then demolish the old ones and finish the other half of the new bridges.
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DJStephens

50 million.  Hmm.  Those twin bridges are fairly long.  For that, am leaning towards a partial rehab, with additional width "tacked" on.   



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