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Started by CoolAngrybirdsrio4, January 13, 2022, 02:01:53 PM

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The Ghostbuster

Strangely enough, Google Maps lists the Gordie Howe Bridge as the "Goodies Howe Bridge": https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2892425,-83.1036651,1464m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu. That makes as much sense as listing a portion of Interstate 295 in Fayetteville, NC as Garrison Dr.


KelleyCook

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Since it was GHB media day...



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KelleyCook

Quote from: KelleyCook on May 13, 2024, 02:46:54 PMMy personal advice would be to measure twice.
Quote from: catch22 on May 14, 2024, 01:44:53 PMhttps://www.gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/sites/default/files/2024-05/Backgrounder%20-%20Connecting%20the%20Gordie%20Howe%20International%20Bridge%20-%20English.pdf

From that backgrounder released yesterday :) ...

Step 6: Engineers physically measure the gap again. An exact measurement ensures a perfect fit when installing the components for the mid-span closure.


Plutonic Panda


triplemultiplex

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Henry

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on May 15, 2024, 04:29:08 PM
So this is going to be the longest cable-stayed bridge in North America when it opens? I can see it losing its title to the Francis Scott Key Bridge if it is rebuilt as one (as we're all expecting now).
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KelleyCook

Big day for the GHIB, the final steel crossbeam was installed today. U27 still needs decking and the four stay wires.

Then in about a month the cap piece.


Stephane Dumas

One guy on Skyscraperpage forum have a good sense of humor about the Gordie Howe Bridge.
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10211965&postcount=212


catch22

All six temporary spacer beams have been installed.


catch22

Late last night and early this morning, the outer side beams at the gap were installed.  The two spans are now permanently connected.


mgk920

I'm hearing recent chatter that the people who are building that bridge now need passports or NEXIS cards to work on that job site.  Is this true?

Mike

ilpt4u

Quote from: mgk920 on June 15, 2024, 12:39:17 PMI'm hearing recent chatter that the people who are building that bridge now need passports or NEXIS cards to work on that job site.  Is this true?

Mike
Don't know. Canadian and US border agencies are now onsite at the work zone, since it is now an active border crossing

Whether workers require a passport (book/card) I don't know. Wouldn't shock me, tho. But if you stay on "your" side of the boundry line I wouldn't think a passport required, but I simply don't have the required knowledge to comment intelligently

vdeane

Quote from: ilpt4u on June 15, 2024, 12:56:34 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 15, 2024, 12:39:17 PMI'm hearing recent chatter that the people who are building that bridge now need passports or NEXIS cards to work on that job site.  Is this true?

Mike
Don't know. Canadian and US border agencies are now onsite at the work zone, since it is now an active border crossing

Whether workers require a passport (book/card) I don't know. Wouldn't shock me, tho. But if you stay on "your" side of the boundry line I wouldn't think a passport required, but I simply don't have the required knowledge to comment intelligently
Wouldn't it be more logical to treat it like the Peace Arch or the Haskell Free Library and Opera House?  As in, you can cross as much as you need within the work zone no questions asked, but must exit on the same side you entered.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: vdeane on June 15, 2024, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on June 15, 2024, 12:56:34 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 15, 2024, 12:39:17 PMI'm hearing recent chatter that the people who are building that bridge now need passports or NEXIS cards to work on that job site.  Is this true?

Mike
Don't know. Canadian and US border agencies are now onsite at the work zone, since it is now an active border crossing

Whether workers require a passport (book/card) I don't know. Wouldn't shock me, tho. But if you stay on "your" side of the boundry line I wouldn't think a passport required, but I simply don't have the required knowledge to comment intelligently
Wouldn't it be more logical to treat it like the Peace Arch or the Haskell Free Library and Opera House?  As in, you can cross as much as you need within the work zone no questions asked, but must exit on the same side you entered.

This article I found states:
QuoteAs the bridge is technically now an international crossing, Canada Border Services Agency and United States Customs and Border Protection officials are now on the ground on site, clearing workers to do their jobs.

"Our team that's working on the bridge and that international zone has to go through the checkpoints where they're showing their documents just like you and I present at the border crossings that are in place now," Henderson said.

That would seem to suggest passports, but perhaps something less formal might be allowed as well.
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ilpt4u

That could mean just showing work/contractor/union ID cards, as authorized laborers, but could very well mean passports  :confused:

Brandon

Quote from: ilpt4u on June 15, 2024, 05:18:46 PMThat could mean just showing work/contractor/union ID cards, as authorized laborers, but could very well mean passports  :confused:

As this is Michigan and Ontario, many of these workers probably just have enhanced driver's licenses, typically used for a border crossing there anyway.
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LilianaUwU

Having to have a passport for this would actually be pathetic.
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vdeane

Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 15, 2024, 08:40:28 PMHaving to have a passport for this would actually be pathetic.
Agreed.  Nobody needs a passport to use the Haskell Free Library and Opera House or the Peace Arch Park.  Why should one (or otherwise accepted travel document) be required here?  It's really overkill, especially given that the examples I cited are open to the public, while the construction zone isn't.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

LilianaUwU

Quote from: vdeane on June 15, 2024, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 15, 2024, 08:40:28 PMHaving to have a passport for this would actually be pathetic.
Agreed.  Nobody needs a passport to use the Haskell Free Library and Opera House or the Peace Arch Park.  Why should one (or otherwise accepted travel document) be required here?  It's really overkill, especially given that the examples I cited are open to the public, while the construction zone isn't.
Security theater (or theatre on my side of the border) is the answer.
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mgk920

(thinking of what the expected AADT on the Howe bridge will be when the checkpoints go bye bye . . .   :popcorn: )

Mike

ilpt4u

Quote from: mgk920 on June 16, 2024, 01:01:11 AM(thinking of what the expected AADT on the Howe bridge will be when the checkpoints go bye bye . . .   :popcorn: )

Mike
Is Canada annexing Michigan or USA annexing Ontario? I don't think the checkpoints that are being built right now are going away any time soon...

That said, it would be time to cosign I—94 (or possibly I-90) across the bridge and with ON 401!

mgk920

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Quote from: ilpt4u on June 16, 2024, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 16, 2024, 01:01:11 AM(thinking of what the expected AADT on the Howe bridge will be when the checkpoints go bye bye . . .   :popcorn: )

Mike
Is Canada annexing Michigan or USA annexing Ontario? I don't think the checkpoints that are being built right now are going away any time soon...

That said, it would be time to cosign I—94 (or possibly I-90) across the bridge and with ON 401!

A decade or so ago I was talking with a USCustoms guy who flat out told me that had the 2001-09-11 thing not happened, Canada and the USA were on track to eliminate the mutual border checkpoints between them by sometime in 2004 and creating a Schengen-style customs union.  When you think about it, keeping an eye on the relatively small number of continental entry ports is a LOT easier, less expensive, with fewer hassles and overall more efficient than monitoring that line that is artificially drawn though some of the most remote land on the planet.

Mike

mgk920

I-94 already ends cosigned with I-69 at the Blue Water Bridge, feeding into ON 402.  (fictional-fantasy musing follows) I would sign I-96 up to the Howe Bridge, feeding into ON 401.

Mike

LilianaUwU

Quote from: mgk920 on June 16, 2024, 02:19:35 PMI-94 already ends cosigned with I-69 at the Blue Water Bridge, feeding into ON 402.  (fictional-fantasy musing follows) I would sign I-96 up to the Howe Bridge, feeding into ON 401.

Mike
Michigan should have the hidden M-401 designation for their side of the border.
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Flint1979

Quote from: mgk920 on June 16, 2024, 02:19:35 PMI would sign I-96 up to the Howe Bridge, feeding into ON 401.
Why? I-94 and I-69 both end at the border, I-96 would have to follow I-75 which doesn't end at the border there making signing I-96 up to the Gordie Howe Bridge pointless.



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