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Title: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: AzNate on January 06, 2024, 10:19:18 PM
I was looking on Google Maps in Albuquerque today and noticed something a bit strange...
(https://i.imgur.com/qoZG7L9.png)
For some reason, Google appears to have made I-20 concurrent with I-40 all the way from its end in Barstow to the interchange with I-65 in Nashville. I am genuinely curious how this has happened and honestly kind of impressed.

Google has also decided that I-40 no longer goes through Memphis and replaced it completely with I-20!
(https://i.imgur.com/5nFd68q.png)

Here are some more screenshots along I-20's new fictional route :-D:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2bEYIDm.png&hash=145fa17a17385d77dbac636f0e71c299e760e87b) (https://i.imgur.com/QFapTgJ.png) (//)
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: pderocco on January 07, 2024, 02:15:25 AM
I'm proud to say I've clinched both I-20s.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: Big John on January 07, 2024, 03:38:48 AM
Clear that they don't have 20/20 vision.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: sprjus4 on January 07, 2024, 04:07:31 AM
I noticed the same thing in Raleigh earlier today...
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 07, 2024, 04:14:38 AM
I wonder if we got a new QC 366, I-136 or I-6 case :sombrero:.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: epzik8 on January 07, 2024, 07:36:26 AM
They've had a tendency to mark one street with two street names as well.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: ElishaGOtis on January 07, 2024, 05:09:26 PM
Here's a link while it lasts: https://maps.app.goo.gl/sFe41GtFnupFHaoM8?g_st=i (works better on Mobile).

I made sure to report the issue. It's much bigger than just a shield being incorrect. The navigation guidance displays I-40 as I-20 in many places. The issue seems to exist on ALL parts of I-40 west of I-65 (yes, ALL the way from TN to CA), and on some small segments in NC. Screenshots coming shortly.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: TheCatalyst31 on January 07, 2024, 05:30:43 PM
Did someone feed the Fictional Highways board into one of Google's AI projects?
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 07, 2024, 07:16:06 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on January 07, 2024, 07:36:26 AM
They've had a tendency to mark one street with two street names as well.

TBF, I think that happens when there's a street that continues with a different name, and Google ain't sure where one name ends and the other begins.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: GaryV on January 08, 2024, 09:43:46 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 07, 2024, 07:16:06 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on January 07, 2024, 07:36:26 AM
They've had a tendency to mark one street with two street names as well.

TBF, I think that happens when there's a street that continues with a different name, and Google ain't sure where one name ends and the other begins.

The Google Map Lady would tell me, "Turn left on 12 Mile / Twelve Mile" - because she evidently didn't realize that 12 and twelve are the same thing.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 08, 2024, 10:09:14 AM
I-20 still persists this morning in Memphis, from West Memphis to the eastern junction with I-240.

I also noticed the western leg of I-240 has been replaced with I-69, with no mention of I-240.   I know that Google has followed Roadgeek cannon in showing I-69 in Memphis (despite TDOT saying it doesn't yet exist), but I had thought that Google had been showing both I-69 and I-240 on that stretch of highway.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: AzNate on January 08, 2024, 10:01:50 PM
As of this evening it looks like Google has fixed I-40 in California, Arizona, and Tennessee, though I-20 still remains between Exit 8 (NM 118) in New Mexico and Exit 165 (Kerr Rd) in Arkansas for some reason.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: adt1982 on January 10, 2024, 10:19:47 PM
How does this even happen in the first place?
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: texaskdog on January 10, 2024, 10:36:06 PM
Albuquerque Still has route 66!
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: cwf1701 on January 10, 2024, 11:07:34 PM
and north of Toledo, Summit Street (in Michigan) is still listed as ALT-US-24 on Google Maps, 50 years after Michigan removed ALT-US-24.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: Henry on January 10, 2024, 11:45:05 PM
What about the real I-20 from western TX to Florence, SC? Did they make any mistakes with that one too? After all, if they labeled I-20 from Barstow to Nashville, surely it would reappear in Atlanta via Chattanooga!
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: cjw2001 on January 11, 2024, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: adt1982 on January 10, 2024, 10:19:47 PM
How does this even happen in the first place?
Google shut down the Mapmaker program and disbanded the user editing and trusted regional leads that provided local knowledge and timely updates.   I was a regional lead at the time and could directly fix stuff like this.  No more. 

You can try submitting corrections / feedback in the maps program directly, but good luck on getting the message to someone that can actually understand your info and fix it.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: Molandfreak on January 11, 2024, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on January 10, 2024, 11:07:34 PM
and north of Toledo, Summit Street (in Michigan) is still listed as ALT-US-24 on Google Maps, 50 years after Michigan removed ALT-US-24.
They also post all the alt routes in Wisconsin, which are fine for interstates because they just show up as text, but each alt US and state trunk highway is accompanied with a shield—which suggests that they're special routes equivalent to the ones approved by AASHTO.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: Brandon on January 12, 2024, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on January 07, 2024, 07:36:26 AM
They've had a tendency to mark one street with two street names as well.

Especially with street and freeway names no one ever uses, and are never signed.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: index on January 12, 2024, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 12, 2024, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on January 07, 2024, 07:36:26 AM
They've had a tendency to mark one street with two street names as well.

Especially with street and freeway names no one ever uses, and are never signed.
Google has a problem in South Carolina with using the internal SCDOT-designated numbers for city streets at times. Sometimes it's listed alongside the name that's actually used, sometimes they list it as the only name for the street. I don't know where they even get the data from to do that, every county GIS will use the name of the street people actually use.
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: Mr. Matté on January 13, 2024, 06:52:42 AM
Quote from: cjw2001 on January 11, 2024, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: adt1982 on January 10, 2024, 10:19:47 PM
How does this even happen in the first place?
Google shut down the Mapmaker program and disbanded the user editing and trusted regional leads that provided local knowledge and timely updates.   I was a regional lead at the time and could directly fix stuff like this.  No more. 

Even during the Mapmaker phase, you were always at the whim of some guy outside the country. My edits frequently were met with "Please kindly undo your edit." (if you think I'm so wrong of fixing the McDonald's pin location in my town, why don't you undo it yourself?)
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: bwana39 on January 18, 2024, 12:11:12 PM
Google maps used to say Houston as HOWSTON.  I get that is how it is said in NYC, but we are also talking about how it is said here where HOUSTON is in the top ten US Cities.

Quote from: index on January 12, 2024, 02:35:48 PM
Google has a problem in South Carolina with using the internal SCDOT-designated numbers for city streets at times. Sometimes it's listed alongside the name that's actually used, sometimes they list it as the only name for the street. I don't know where they even get the data from to do that, every county GIS will use the name of the street people actually use.

Texas used to have internal route numbers like that that were at best confusing. US-271 in Mount Pleasant was Route 149. Really confusing... As I understand it, those have been discontinued. You need an internal TxDOT map to figure out where a contract or imminent domain process were .



Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: Rothman on January 18, 2024, 01:17:37 PM


Quote from: bwana39 on January 18, 2024, 12:11:12 PM
Google maps used to say Houston as HOWSTON.  I get that is how it is said in NYC, but we are also talking about how it is said here where HOUSTON is in the top ten US Cities.

NYC is #1.  Suck it up.

Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: chrislopezz on January 18, 2024, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: AzNate on January 06, 2024, 10:19:18 PM
I was looking on Google Maps in Albuquerque today and noticed something a bit strange...
(https://i.imgur.com/qoZG7L9.png)
For some reason, Google appears to have made I-20 concurrent with I-40 all the way from its end in Barstow to the interchange with I-65 in Nashville. I am genuinely curious how this has happened and honestly kind of impressed.

Google has also decided that I-40 no longer goes through Memphis and replaced it completely with I-20!
(https://i.imgur.com/5nFd68q.png)

Here are some more screenshots along I-20's new fictional route :-D:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2bEYIDm.png&hash=145fa17a17385d77dbac636f0e71c299e760e87b) (https://i.imgur.com/QFapTgJ.png) (//)

WHAT DO YOU MEAN "WHOOPSIE" IF IT'S ALL CORRECT!? (OR AM I CONFUSED  :crazy: ?)
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: pderocco on January 18, 2024, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on January 18, 2024, 12:11:12 PM
Google maps used to say Houston as HOWSTON.  I get that is how it is said in NYC, but we are also talking about how it is said here where HOUSTON is in the top ten US Cities.

Houston TX is pronounced differently from Houston St in NYC. Does Google Maps get them both right, now?
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: jlam on January 18, 2024, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: chrislopezz on January 18, 2024, 03:10:29 PM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "WHOOPSIE" IF IT'S ALL CORRECT!? (OR AM I CONFUSED  :crazy: ?)

Please tell me you left out the /s?
Title: Re: Google Maps made a big whoopsie with I-40 and I-20
Post by: cockroachking on January 18, 2024, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: jlam on January 18, 2024, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: chrislopezz on January 18, 2024, 03:10:29 PM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "WHOOPSIE" IF IT'S ALL CORRECT!? (OR AM I CONFUSED  :crazy: ?)

Please tell me you left out the /s?
AASHTO has approved some dumb things lately, but I don't think a cross-country I-20/I-40 concurrency was one of them.