NCDOT to add I-495 onto US 64 from I-440 to I-95

[froggie]

They weren't as of mid-February, either...

[CanesFan27]

Does anybody know if I-495 shields have gone up yet?  I noticed somebody added some "I-495" ref tags on OSM and was wondering if it was truly posted yet.  If not, I want to fix the ref tags in that area later today when I have the time.

No they aren't, I and a few others drive the road every day.   

[rickmastfan67]

Does anybody know if I-495 shields have gone up yet?  I noticed somebody added some "I-495" ref tags on OSM and was wondering if it was truly posted yet.  If not, I want to fix the ref tags in that area later today when I have the time.

No they aren't, I and a few others drive the road every day.

Alright, I'll correct OSM then.

[rickmastfan67]

Future I-495 signs are now showing up.

[CanesFan27]

Future I-495 sign installation continued today...with signs eastbound being installed to just beyond the Nash/Franklin line.  Westbound installation started and has only reached the NC 39 exit at this time.  Figure the rest of the installation will occur tomorrow.  I didn't notice any today on 64 east of Spring Hope - but I drive this road every day and will know for certain tomorrow.

Here's a closer view of the Future 495 Guide Sign.  THis is eastbound on 64 between Wendell Falls Parkway and 64 Business/Wendell Blvd.

Future Interstate 495 by Adam's Journey, on Flickr

[WashuOtaku]

Future Interstate 495 by Adam's Journey, on Flickr

Interesting that they added those signs with big wooden posts.  Well, the ones between I-440 and I-540 should be regular interstate shields, when installed.

[froggie]

Word is that one of the eastbound installments between 440 and 540 is Future, not regular.

[CanesFan27]

That information is now incorrect.  The person that spotted and took the first photo was mistaken in its location.  The first photo on southeast roads is located on 64 east between 540 and Smithfield road which is currently a future designation

[bob7374]

NCDOT's official press release regarding the placement of I-495 and Future 495 signs along US 64:
https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=9767

Includes another Future 495 sign photo. Press release also says new BGS's with I-495 are currently being manufactured and will be placed sometime during the summer between I-440 and I-540.

[jcarte29]

NCDOT's official press release regarding the placement of I-495 and Future 495 signs along US 64:
https://apps.ncdot.gov/newsreleases/details.aspx?r=9767

Includes another Future 495 sign photo. Press release also says new BGS's with I-495 are currently being manufactured and will be placed sometime during the summer between I-440 and I-540.

A Spectacular week for NC current and future interstates...

[dfilpus]

There now is a pair of full Interstate shields (one each way) on US 64/264 near the Hodge Road interchange.

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[bob7374]

There now is a pair of full Interstate shields (one each way) on US 64/264 near the Hodge Road interchange.

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North? Wouldn't East make more sense. Since when is I-95 north of Raleigh?

I pity any future direction givers in the Triangle area. Let's see, to get to Knightdale from Sanford take US 1 to I-40 East then go east on I-440 West until you turn east on I-495 North...

[rickmastfan67]

There now is a pair of full Interstate shields (one each way) on US 64/264 near the Hodge Road interchange.

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And now added to OSM.

[WashuOtaku]

North? Wouldn't East make more sense. Since when is I-95 north of Raleigh?

I pity any future direction givers in the Triangle area. Let's see, to get to Knightdale from Sanford take US 1 to I-40 East then go east on I-440 West until you turn east on I-495 North...

It's north-south because it's an odd-digit interstate highway.  Also, if one looks on a map, it does go north-south similar to I-85 in the state.  Same reason I-26 is east-west, because it's even-digit. 

I doubt there will be confusion, there is a reason why US 64/US 264 still overlap, its well known and likely will still be used as directions.  The interstate designation will not mean much till it connects fully with I-95.

[Alps]

I guess I-495 is north-south because it runs 90 degrees to I-40 east of Raleigh. That's really dumb.

[WashuOtaku]

I guess I-495 is north-south because it runs 90 degrees to I-40 east of Raleigh. That's really dumb.

Okay, it appears visuals are in order.



Traveling similar to that of I-85 in the state, I-495's route goes in a northeasterly direction to I-95 near Rocky Mount.  Please note that it is also an odd-number interstate, which lends again to it being north-south.

[Mapmikey]

I guess I-495 is north-south because it runs 90 degrees to I-40 east of Raleigh. That's really dumb.

Okay, it appears visuals are in order.

Please note that it is also an odd-number interstate, which lends again to it being north-south.

Pretty sure this is irrelevant...

I-464 and I-664 are posted N-S
I-176 and I-476 are posted N-S
I-270 MD is posted N-S
I-195 NJ is posted E-W
I-115 is posted E-W
I-155 AR/TN is posted E-W
I-205 CA is posted E-W
I-190 SD is posted N-S
I-180 WY is posted N-S

I'm certain there are numerous other examples...

3dis are posted in accordance with how they actually run...

Mapmikey

[rickmastfan67]

I guess I-495 is north-south because it runs 90 degrees to I-40 east of Raleigh. That's really dumb.

Okay, it appears visuals are in order.

Please note that it is also an odd-number interstate, which lends again to it being north-south.

Pretty sure this is irrelevant...

I-464 and I-664 are posted N-S
I-176 and I-476 are posted N-S
I-270 MD is posted N-S
I-195 NJ is posted E-W
I-115 is posted E-W
I-155 AR/TN is posted E-W
I-205 CA is posted E-W
I-190 SD is posted N-S
I-180 WY is posted N-S

I'm certain there are numerous other examples...

3dis are posted in accordance with how they actually run...

Mapmikey

Add to that list:
I-190 NY is posted N-S

[akotchi]

I-495 itself, in its other iterations, has an east-west routing (Long Island), a north-south routing (Wilmington, DE) and an "all-direction" routing (Capital Beltway).

[WashuOtaku]

I guess I-495 is north-south because it runs 90 degrees to I-40 east of Raleigh. That's really dumb.

Okay, it appears visuals are in order.
Please note that it is also an odd-number interstate, which lends again to it being north-south.

Pretty sure this is irrelevant...

I-464 and I-664 are posted N-S
I-176 and I-476 are posted N-S
I-270 MD is posted N-S
I-195 NJ is posted E-W
I-115 is posted E-W
I-155 AR/TN is posted E-W
I-205 CA is posted E-W
I-190 SD is posted N-S
I-180 WY is posted N-S

I'm certain there are numerous other examples...

3dis are posted in accordance with how they actually run...

Mapmikey

Add to that list:
I-190 NY is posted N-S

Okay, so I have been proven wrong on multiple accounts, but at least NCDOT is trying to keep the idea alive.  A few years back they updated the signage around Charlotte's I-485 to Inner-Outer/North-South signage; before that it had North-South-East-West depending where you were along it.  Generally, they have not strayed from the odd/even formula for interstates.

[OracleUsr]

I guess I-495 is north-south because it runs 90 degrees to I-40 east of Raleigh. That's really dumb.

Okay, it appears visuals are in order.

Please note that it is also an odd-number interstate, which lends again to it being north-south.

Pretty sure this is irrelevant...

I-464 and I-664 are posted N-S
I-176 and I-476 are posted N-S
I-270 MD is posted N-S
I-195 NJ is posted E-W
I-115 is posted E-W
I-155 AR/TN is posted E-W
I-205 CA is posted E-W
I-190 SD is posted N-S
I-180 WY is posted N-S

I'm certain there are numerous other examples...

3dis are posted in accordance with how they actually run...

Mapmikey

Add to that list:
I-190 NY is posted N-S

Isn't I-684 in New York/Connecticut also N/S?

[Molandfreak]

All traffic to southbound I-95 (in their right mind) will use I-40 east. Signing I-495 N-S makes the shortcut utility of I-495 obvious to drivers who want I-95 north. Besides, U.S. 64/264 are already east-west.

[froggie]

^And the fact that I-495 overlays directly on top of US 64 is why folks (including some in Raleigh) are questioning why it's signed north-south.

'Course, we've already seen how GPS overuse is causing drivers to ignore signs anyway.

[Mapmikey]

All traffic to southbound I-95 (in their right mind) will use I-40 east. Signing I-495 N-S makes the shortcut utility of I-495 obvious to drivers who want I-95 north. Besides, U.S. 64/264 are already east-west.

This could be a legitimate rationale, but they should extend I-495 over I-40 back to I-95 to really make that idea make total sense.

Mapmikey

[Henry]

There now is a pair of full Interstate shields (one each way) on US 64/264 near the Hodge Road interchange.

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North? Wouldn't East make more sense. Since when is I-95 north of Raleigh?

I pity any future direction givers in the Triangle area. Let's see, to get to Knightdale from Sanford take US 1 to I-40 East then go east on I-440 West until you turn east on I-495 North...

I also expected I-495 East to show up, but I guess I-495 North makes more sense, as it heads northeast to meet I-95 at Rocky Mount.