Breezewood

[theroadwayone]

So after looking through this thread, and seeing the posts and threads about everyone's least favorite interchange, I thought about making this poll. Another question, how should we stop people posting excessively about it? I'd like to hear your suggestions. Thanks!

[jakeroot]

Is this thread intentionally ironic?

[jeffandnicole]

Is this thread intentionally ironic?

Yes. Yes it is.

While I do agree a bit with the OP, it's something that riles people up.  And just like anything else, if the OP (or anyone else) doesn't want to read about it, then don't read about it.  No one is forcing anyone to read specific threads.

[hotdogPi]

If we stop talking about it entirely, the people who join in 2018, 2019, etc. won't know about it.

[qguy]

Is this thread intentionally ironic?

We have a winner! 

[froggie]

If we stop talking about it entirely, the people who join in 2018, 2019, etc. won't know about it.

If this is the case, it's only because people who join later are foolish or ignorant enough to not bother looking through the archive of past threads...

[Alps]

I don't see any other threads about dead horses.

[jeffandnicole]

If we stop talking about it entirely, the people who join in 2018, 2019, etc. won't know about it.

If this is the case, it's only because people who join later are foolish or ignorant enough to not bother looking through the archive of past threads...

There is only one reason to look the archive of past threads.

And that's to understand the legend of the Alan.

[jp the roadgeek]

I don't see any other threads about dead horses.

Perhaps another entry for "Threads You'll Never See on AA Roads"

[cpzilliacus]

Speaking of dead horses, my main problem with Breezewood is that people are injured and sometimes killed when they are not expecting an at-grade signalized intersection on an Interstate highway.

All to benefit a few families that own businesses and land in "downtown" Breezewood.

[renegade]

If we stop talking about it entirely, the people who join in 2018, 2019, etc. won't know about it.

If this is the case, it's only because people who join later are foolish or ignorant enough to not bother looking through the archive of past threads...

There is only one reason to look the archive of past threads.

And that's to understand the legend of the Alan.

If we're really going to stop beating dead horses, please consider ending any further discussion about that place that does and does not exist.  That topic overran its course a very long time ago.

[TheArkansasRoadgeek]

I don't see any other threads about dead horses.

Perhaps another entry for "Threads You'll Never See on AA Roads"

Consider it done!

[jeffandnicole]

If we stop talking about it entirely, the people who join in 2018, 2019, etc. won't know about it.

If this is the case, it's only because people who join later are foolish or ignorant enough to not bother looking through the archive of past threads...

There is only one reason to look the archive of past threads.

And that's to understand the legend of the Alan.

If we're really going to stop beating dead horses, please consider ending any further discussion about that place that does and does not exist.  That topic overran its course a very long time ago.

Good luck with that.  It will always live on in small drips and drabs. 

Speaking of dead horses, my main problem with Breezewood is that people are injured and sometimes killed when they are not expecting an at-grade signalized intersection on an Interstate highway.

All to benefit a few families that own businesses and land in "downtown" Breezewood.

It's a tough one.  Yes, no doubt, driver expectation of no traffic signals and cross traffic on a marked Interstate highway has probably led to accidents and deaths.  But when there's 30,000 or 40,000 other traffic deaths throughout the nation each year, mostly in areas where there's no unusual issues, the relatively few that occur here wouldn't make a dent (pun intended) on those overall figures.

Of course, any condition that needlessly causes accidents and deaths should be eliminated.

[Mr_Northside]

Also... where does the general expectancy of an interstate not having at-grade crossings/signals become negated by the expectancy of them being there that should be generated by multiple signs warning that they (and slowed / stopped traffic backing up) are ahead??

[BrianP]

Speaking of dead horses, my main problem with Breezewood is that people are injured and sometimes killed when they are not expecting an at-grade signalized intersection on an Interstate highway.

Westbound there are signs that the expressway ends:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9887893,-78.2419902,3a,75y,12.25h,68.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHA7tHNeY94rq9Ig5lGvvow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Eastbound there is signage that both options are exits that should be taken at 20 mph.  And the gap in the interstate is implied by the To I-70. 
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9972018,-78.233292,3a,75y,15.66h,90.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6Im0kjT4dZE26JYHXuyNQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

End expressway signs should be used here as well.  That may be the difference between PennDOT and PTC.  The PTC may consider that part of I-70 to be just a long exit ramp and not an expressway. Which could be why the speed limit on the PTC connection to Breezewood is only 50 mph.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9904315,-78.2474384,3a,75y,103.9h,88.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLJvf1sDxCEOSl2W50mvX3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[kkt]

Is this thread intentionally ironic?

As opposed to unintentionally ironic, I guess.

[Ian]

I've never had to encounter Breezewood during a time of high traffic volumes, so I don't care as much as some others about this quirk in our interstate highway system. But similar to the constant I-99 and I-238 complaints, this is just another dead horse that people keep beating.

If we're really going to stop beating dead horses, please consider ending any further discussion about that place that does and does not exist.  That topic overran its course a very long time ago.

500% agree. There's nothing that makes me cringe harder than seeing people that still continually post about it. The meme died like two years ago, let it go already...

[jakeroot]

Is this thread intentionally ironic?

As opposed to unintentionally ironic, I guess.

I would imagine that most ironic situations are unintentional.

[jwolfer]

Speaking of dead horses, my main problem with Breezewood is that people are injured and sometimes killed when they are not expecting an at-grade signalized intersection on an Interstate highway.

All to benefit a few families that own businesses and land in "downtown" Breezewood.

I haven't driven the infamous Breezewood but it looks like it an exit on to US 30. It's not like a freeway all the sudden has a traffic light.

Sort of like the connection between Florida's Turnpike and I95 near Ft Pierce using SR 70.

With that being said there is no reason there is not a real freeway to freeway interchange at both locations.

Z981

[1995hoo]

I haven't driven the infamous Breezewood but it looks like it an exit on to US 30. It's not like a freeway all the sudden has a traffic light.

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On westbound I-70, it more or less does just suddenly have a traffic light, although as others have pointed out, there are multiple warning signs, so it shouldn't be a total surprise. The signs might be, of course, if you don't know about it. First time I was through there was on a Boy Scout trip up to Seven Springs when I was 11 years old and I remember thinking something like, "WTH is with that sign? There are no traffic lights on the Interstate!"

Fort Pierce is quite different because both I-95 and the Turnpike require you to exit. Going westbound on I-70, it just dumps you directly into Breezewood.

[Beltway]

The horse is dead, but it has not been buried, and it is stinking badly.

It needs to be cremated and pipe-whip the ashes.

[thenetwork]

...should we stop people posting excessively about it?

NIMBY!!!!

[jeffandnicole]

Speaking of dead horses, my main problem with Breezewood is that people are injured and sometimes killed when they are not expecting an at-grade signalized intersection on an Interstate highway.

All to benefit a few families that own businesses and land in "downtown" Breezewood.

I haven't driven the infamous Breezewood but it looks like it an exit on to US 30. It's not like a freeway all the sudden has a traffic light.

It is definitely like a freeway that all of a sudden has a traffic light, especially going westbound.  Even Eastbound, once you go thru the toll plaza, it should simply lead you to a ramp to the other highway, which it does not.

With that being said there is no reason there is not a real freeway to freeway interchange at both locations.

Exactly why this issue has been brought up ad-nausea (yes, intentional) on this board hundreds of times. 

With that being said there is no reason there is not a real freeway to freeway interchange at both locations.

Pennsy is extremely infamous for its lack of highway-to-highway interchanges that require you to go thru traffic lights.  The PA Turnpike has several examples of this alone.

[signalman]

Pennsy is extremely infamous for its lack abundance of highway-to-highway interchanges that require you to go thru traffic lights.  The PA Turnpike has several examples of this alone.

FTFY

[hotdogPi]

Pennsy is extremely infamous for its lack abundance of highway-to-highway interchanges that require you to go thru traffic lights.  The PA Turnpike has several examples of this alone.

FTFY

There were two interpretations of that statement.

1. Known for lack of highway-to-highway interchanges; i.e. known for interchanges that are not direct highway-to-highway.
2. The way that you tried to fix it, which implies "highway-to-highway interchanges that require you to go thru traffic lights" is one phrase.