Down here in South Carolina, almost every town of any size has at the minimum, a blinker at their biggest intersection. A lot of these places don't have regular traffic lights, though.
Aynor, SC, a town of about 800 along US 501 on the way to Myrtle Beach, has two traffic lights.
What is the smallest town you can find with a traffic light, or the largest town without one?
In Minnesota, there is one location with a traffic signal that is a minimum 5 miles from the nearest town. If one includes nearby farmers, does "single digits" count?
Largest town in Minnesota without a signal may be Glencoe (population ~5,600). I can't think of any larger towns offhand.
There's always this signal along US 6 in Illinois (https://goo.gl/maps/1NfvsW1WBik) between Mineral (population 227 per Google) and Annawan (population 855 per Google).
The largest city in Utah without a traffic light appears to be Alpine, with a population of 9,555 in 2010. The smallest incorporated town with a light is Bryce Canyon City, with a population of 198.
Try US 13 on the Delmarva peninsula in Virginia. There are numerous traffic signals along there and it is almost completely rural.
Quite a few small areas here in Union County and the surrounding counties have traffic lights, but are in a rather rural area, presumably because these rural areas have arterials running through them to connect medium sized towns like Monroe and Lancaster to each other.
Mineral springs: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9381418,-80.6688432,3a,76.6y,10.26h,94.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snRH9dg0FKjWQ4kpUMCZx-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9381418,-80.6688432,3a,76.6y,10.26h,94.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snRH9dg0FKjWQ4kpUMCZx-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US)
Roughedge: https://goo.gl/maps/mBtZ7r1WaXz (https://goo.gl/maps/mBtZ7r1WaXz)
Waxhaw: https://goo.gl/maps/k6V6oLJNwiB2 (https://goo.gl/maps/k6V6oLJNwiB2)
Buford, SC: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7443588,-80.625772,3a,75y,330.25h,83.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG5e4SG5NZ2klLQZy6AlH_Q!2e0!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7443588,-80.625772,3a,75y,330.25h,83.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG5e4SG5NZ2klLQZy6AlH_Q!2e0!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en-US)
Quote from: froggie on May 12, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
In Minnesota, there is one location with a traffic signal that is a minimum 5 miles from the nearest town.
Where's that?
Like Kramer Junction? I think it's just a few businesses. I'm not even sure anyone lives there.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9916317,-117.5399912,1736m/data=!3m1!1e3
Since, IMHO, this question is so hard to really define, howabout "What is the location of the cycling RYG traffic signal in the USA (contiguous 48 states?) that is the most remote from any other traffic signals? Ditto for Canada and the rest of the World?
Mike
To add, I don't think Bottineau, ND has any traffic lights and it's the largest city (still small though) for a bit out there, which is a given, seeing as it's North Dakota.
Quote from: mgk920 on May 12, 2018, 09:04:27 PMSince, IMHO, this question is so hard to really define, howabout "What is the location of the cycling RYG traffic signal in the USA (contiguous 48 states?) that is the most remote from any other traffic signals? Ditto for Canada and the rest of the World?
Not an answer to the question, but it did get me thinking what the most extreme traffic lights in the US/Canada are. Northernmost, easternmost, westernmost, highest in elevation, most remote, etc. For northernmost, the title would probably go to something within the vicinity of Fairbanks, Alaska.
Benzonia, Michigan (population 497) has a stoplight at US-31 and M-115 (the only full stoplight in Benzie County; largest community Frankfort has none).
Quote from: mgk920 on May 12, 2018, 09:04:27 PM
Since, IMHO, this question is so hard to really define, howabout "What is the location of the cycling RYG traffic signal in the USA (contiguous 48 states?) that is the most remote from any other traffic signals? Ditto for Canada and the rest of the World?
Mike
The two Utah winners would be Bryce Canyon City and Delta, which are both 47 miles as the crow flies from another signal (Bryce is slightly farther). Bryce is 75 miles by car from the nearest signal in Kanab, and Delta is 50 miles by car from the nearest signal in Nephi.
In Florida there is one along US 27 at FL 29 which is near the small town of Palmdale (unincorporated in Glades County) that has a two digit population.
Further south in Moore Haven, it had one that last time I drove it and even that one was a converted flasher as back in the 90's it had none. However, Monticello along US 19 in Jefferson County near Tallahassee has none working but two or three flashers. Both Moore Haven and Monticello are county seats as well.
Maybe not the smallest but it would be pretty close. La Paz, Indiana has a traffic light at the intersection of US 6 and Michigan Road (former US 31.) The population was 561 in 2010.
Quote from: tdindy88 on May 13, 2018, 12:19:44 AM
Maybe not the smallest but it would be pretty close. La Paz, Indiana has a traffic light at the intersection of US 6 and Michigan Road (former US 31.) The population was 561 in 2010.
Now with US 31 being out of that intersection its even more not needed.
I was at that intersection in 2008 and know the one you mean. It was mainly because US 31 is linear developed and most of US 31 traffic was people patronizing the many homes and businesses between the small town of La Paz and South Bend.
US 301 in Florida around Waldo is the same, though no signals within Waldo's City limits, but has them along US 301 outside the city due to some east-west roads of use intersecting the busy US 301 that is an outer bypass of Jacksonville. Waldo has only SR 24 intersecting US 301, but is interchanged hence why a signal is not needed there.
Texas is the leader in putting signals up in rural, unincorporated areas. So I guess the answer is zero.
Iowa has one on IA 2 just west of I-29 where there are truck stops and a hotel, but no official city. They also have one set up just west of I-35 on old IA 105 at the turn for Diamond Jo Casino, but that one flashes red in all 4 directions, again in no incorporated area. The smallest city I know about with a traffic light is Ventura (population 717 in 2010)
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 12, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 12, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
In Minnesota, there is one location with a traffic signal that is a minimum 5 miles from the nearest town.
Where's that?
Blomkest (157) may have been the winner until the US 71/MN 7 signal was recently replaced with a roundabout.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 13, 2018, 03:25:30 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 12, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 12, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
In Minnesota, there is one location with a traffic signal that is a minimum 5 miles from the nearest town.
Where's that?
Blomkest (157) may have been the winner until the US 71/MN 7 signal was recently replaced with a roundabout.
I thought that maybe was what froggie was referring to, but I didn't even realize that former signal/now roundabout was actually within the corporate limits of a city. There's the signal at US-14/US-71, but that's only a mile or so outside Sanborn, so that's not it either. Hmmm...
Edit: US-75 and US-212. About five miles either way from Madison or Dawson. I think that's it.
In my neck of the woods Trenton NC (pop 284) has a stop light at the intersection of NC-41 and NC-58, next to the Jones County courthouse.
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Quote from: froggie on May 12, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
In Minnesota, there is one location with a traffic signal that is a minimum 5 miles from the nearest town.
Where's that?
Blomkest (157) may have been the winner until the US 71/MN 7 signal was recently replaced with a roundabout.
I thought that maybe was what froggie was referring to, but I didn't even realize that former signal/now roundabout was actually within the corporate limits of a city. There's the signal at US-14/US-71, but that's only a mile or so outside Sanborn, so that's not it either. Hmmm...
Edit: US-75 and US-212. About five miles either way from Madison or Dawson. I think that's it.
Yes, I was referring to 75/212. Blomkest is only a mile from 71/7. The 75/212 signal has been the "winner" for years...that signal actually predated the former signal at 71/7.
It has to be Purujosa, Spain with a population of 37 as of 2017. The lights (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.6821524,-1.7666154,3a,37.5y,74.59h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s81-clyqVaaloSa4ECs_UXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) are there due to the narrowness of the village's Main Street (Calle Mayor in Spanish), which also serves as the village's only entrance. Thread done :sombrero:.
Michigan has some stoplights in unincorporated areas:
M-66 at M-57 (two miles south of Sheridan)
M-66 at M-20 (in the unincorporated community of Remus)
M-20 at Winn Rd (about five miles from Beal City and seven miles from Mt. Pleasant)
M-20 at Coleman Rd (about ten miles from Mt. Pleasant and Coleman)
M-46 at M-83 (five miles north of Frankenmuth)
The two on M-45 west of Allendale (120th St and M-231)
I've counted at least 8 in Teterboro, NJ, population 67 as of 2010.
Yes, but Teterboro is in the middle of one of the most crowded urban areas in the country.
This has to be one of the smallest in SC. On US 17 between Gardens Corner (where it merges with US 21) and Jacksonboro (where it turns toward Charleston), there is a traffic light for some old museum they used to have there.
https://goo.gl/maps/DgMPjv2Jr1A2
For Louisiana the best ones I can think of:
Smallest towns with traffic light:
Ida- pop 221
Dixie Inn- pop 273
Columbia - 390
Largest towns/cities without:
Colfax - pop 1558
Clinton- 1653
Bernice- pop 1689
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The largest town I've been to with no traffic light is Dumaguete, Philippines with a whopping 130,000
Quote from: roadman65 on May 13, 2018, 12:38:57 AM
Quote from: tdindy88 on May 13, 2018, 12:19:44 AM
Maybe not the smallest but it would be pretty close. La Paz, Indiana has a traffic light at the intersection of US 6 and Michigan Road (former US 31.) The population was 561 in 2010.
Now with US 31 being out of that intersection its even more not needed.
I was at that intersection in 2008 and know the one you mean. It was mainly because US 31 is linear developed and most of US 31 traffic was people patronizing the many homes and businesses between the small town of La Paz and South Bend.
US 301 in Florida around Waldo is the same, though no signals within Waldo's City limits, but has them along US 301 outside the city due to some east-west roads of use intersecting the busy US 301 that is an outer bypass of Jacksonville. Waldo has only SR 24 intersecting US 301, but is interchanged hence why a signal is not needed there.
I grew up 8 miles from that intersection. US 6 is a fairly busy highway, with a fair amount of truck traffic, so a traffic light was definitely necessary before the new routing of 31 was built. Haven't been through that intersection since, but with the number of businesses at/near that intersection, I'm guessing the light is still necessary.
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 12, 2018, 12:26:57 PM
There's always this signal along US 6 in Illinois (https://goo.gl/maps/1NfvsW1WBik) between Mineral (population 227 per Google) and Annawan (population 855 per Google).
We storm chased not too long ago and came across this light... Is it mainly for the railroad crossing? Traffic can't be that bad in the area
Quote from: 02 Park Ave on May 12, 2018, 12:56:30 PM
Try US 13 on the Delmarva peninsula in Virginia. There are numerous traffic signals along there and it is almost completely rural.
You'd be right...
Port Royal, VA (population 126) has a traffic signal just outside the corporate limits at US 17 and US 301.
Monterey, VA (population 136) has blinking yellows/reds at the US 220/US 250 intersection.
However, Eastville, VA (population 167) is the smallest in Virginia with a fully signalized intersection within the corporate limits (US 13 and SR 631).
Clifton (pop 282) is notable for not having any signals despite being within Fairfax County.
I'm not sure what the largest town in Virginia without a signal would be...I feel like it would be Occoquan (pop 1205) but I think VA 123 just barely manages to enter the corporate limits, and there's a signal at SR 1203 Commerce Street.
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Quote from: Revive 755 on May 12, 2018, 12:26:57 PM
There's always this signal along US 6 in Illinois (https://goo.gl/maps/1NfvsW1WBik) between Mineral (population 227 per Google) and Annawan (population 855 per Google).
We storm chased not too long ago and came across this light... Is it mainly for the railroad crossing? Traffic can't be that bad in the area
I looked at that light on Google and its existence makes no sense at all to me. It goes to the Patriot ethanol plant (presumably why it's called Patriot Way) and the other end of the road is IL 78, with I-80 not too far north. Mineral and Sheffield don't get direct exits from I-80, so there must be a high amount of local truck traffic. How that is possible is a mystery to me.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
I'm not sure what the largest town in Virginia without a signal would be...I feel like it would be Occoquan (pop 1205) but I think VA 123 just barely manages to enter the corporate limits, and there's a signal at SR 1203 Commerce Street.
I'm thinking Gordonsville
^ Pretty sure Grottoes (2010 pop of 2,668) is the winner.
Quote from: froggie on May 18, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
^ Pretty sure Grottoes (2010 pop of 2,668) is the winner.
Yeah, it is.
Quote from: DandyDan on May 13, 2018, 02:51:36 AM
Iowa has one on IA 2 just west of I-29 where there are truck stops and a hotel, but no official city. They also have one set up just west of I-35 on old IA 105 at the turn for Diamond Jo Casino, but that one flashes red in all 4 directions, again in no incorporated area. The smallest city I know about with a traffic light is Ventura (population 717 in 2010)
The traffic signal at US 52/IA 3 and the Northwest Arterial is in Sageville, population 122, which adjoins much larger Dubuque.
The largest one I can think of off hand is Chamberlain SD population 2,500. That means there are no traffic lights at all between Mitchell and Rapid City.
Wow Im suprised the Breezewood Haters haven't chimed in yet The population there is around 300 and I know for sure there are at least 2 traffic lights. One for I-70 E and the other for I-70W and I-76; There even could be 1 or 2 more for the group of motels and restaurants that are there.
Quote from: oldparoadgeek on June 12, 2018, 02:09:46 AM
Wow Im suprised the Breezewood Haters haven't chimed in yet The population there is around 300 and I know for sure there are at least 2 traffic lights. One for I-70 E and the other for I-70W and I-76; There even could be 1 or 2 more for the group of motels and restaurants that are there.
Breezewood isn't incorporated, and as far as I know, it doesn't have defined boundaries.
Lazy Lake, Florida with a population of 24 might be in the running, but the traffic light is in the extreme southwest corner of its incorporated limits. Based on its limited budget, I'm quite certain the county maintains it.
Smallest one I've encountered is a flasher at Bascom, FL in Jackson County (one of my aunts lives there), population 131.
Quote from: DandyDan on May 17, 2018, 05:01:57 AM
Quote from: ET21 on May 16, 2018, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 12, 2018, 12:26:57 PM
There's always this signal along US 6 in Illinois (https://goo.gl/maps/1NfvsW1WBik) between Mineral (population 227 per Google) and Annawan (population 855 per Google).
We storm chased not too long ago and came across this light... Is it mainly for the railroad crossing? Traffic can't be that bad in the area
I looked at that light on Google and its existence makes no sense at all to me. It goes to the Patriot ethanol plant (presumably why it's called Patriot Way) and the other end of the road is IL 78, with I-80 not too far north. Mineral and Sheffield don't get direct exits from I-80, so there must be a high amount of local truck traffic. How that is possible is a mystery to me.
Could be a case of how easy it is to meet the grade crossing warrant (Warrant 9) in the MUTCD, or the signal is not warranted but the Illinois Commerce Commission required it just to approve the new grade crossing.
Lake Buena Vista in Florida has a bunch of fully signalized intersections, including bus signals and whatnot, and it only has a population of 10, I imagine its the true winner. Infact, I'm pretty sure the number of signals their exceeds the population of the town.
:hmmm: :pan:
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 12, 2018, 12:26:57 PM
There's always this signal along US 6 in Illinois (https://goo.gl/maps/1NfvsW1WBik) between Mineral (population 227 per Google) and Annawan (population 855 per Google).
That may be due to the grade crossing.
The Borough of Milbourne, PA (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Millbourne,+PA+19082/@39.9630389,-75.2560215,16.25z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6c12e7fb100bf:0xece30cca5595af8d!8m2!3d39.9634461!4d-75.2501821) (population of 1,159 per the 2010 census) has three or four of them along Market St./PA 3.
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 02, 2018, 03:12:11 PM
The Borough of Milbourne, PA (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Millbourne,+PA+19082/@39.9630389,-75.2560215,16.25z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6c12e7fb100bf:0xece30cca5595af8d!8m2!3d39.9634461!4d-75.2501821) (population of 1,159 per the 2010 census) has three or four of them along Market St./PA 3.
It's probably cheating to include a place just outside the largest city in the state. :P
One that barely counts would be Woodside DE (population 196). US-13's southbound lanes enter the town limits: https://goo.gl/maps/rt5cm6EJsD82
Magnolia DE (population 235): https://goo.gl/maps/xU14eT7fTaT2
Then there's the one in Kenton DE (population 265) which threw me off when I was heading towards US-301 the other day: https://goo.gl/maps/kKamRvn6SbT2
Just did a check for the largest town without a stoplight in Delaware and I can't seem to find any, at least where I'd expect them, in Clayton (population 3,157). I know all the towns larger than it have stoplights for sure, I've actually been to them.
Quote from: UCFKnights on June 13, 2018, 09:50:59 AM
Lake Buena Vista in Florida has a bunch of fully signalized intersections, including bus signals and whatnot, and it only has a population of 10, I imagine its the true winner. Infact, I'm pretty sure the number of signals their exceeds the population of the town.
Not to split hairs, but you should also include the metropolis of Bay Lake in that count, with 47 full-time residents as of the last Census. Its population seems to fluctuate a bit at times...
Leadville is the highest (10,152') incorporated city in Colorado with a traffic light (Harrison Ave/US 24 and 6th St). The neighboring CDP of Leadville North also has one (Poplar St/US 24 & Mountain View Dr), mainly because there's a Safeway at that corner.
The smallest is Lakeside (population 8), which really doesn't count, since it sits on the border of the City and County of Denver, and most of the town is either Lakeside Amusement Park, Lake Rhoda, and Lakeside Center (which includes a Walmart Supercenter). There are lights along the eastern (Sheridan Blvd), southern (44th Ave), and western (Harlan St) edges.
Other than within Denver Metro, the smallest city with a traffic light is Black Hawk (population 127 according to a 2016 estimate), which has six (plus an emergency signal), plus another just outside the city limits (and another at the junction of US 6 and CO 119 a few miles south of town). The reason for all of the lights? Gambling. It's the most convenient (about 45 mins) location to Denver for gambling, and you can see it every weekend, especially.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
You'd be right...
Port Royal, VA (population 126) has a traffic signal just outside the corporate limits at US 17 and US 301.
At times, that's a pretty busy intersection.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
Monterey, VA (population 136) has blinking yellows/reds at the US 220/US 250 intersection.
That would have been my first choice in the Commonwealth of a place that
I knew was within the corporate limits of a municipality.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
However, Eastville, VA (population 167) is the smallest in Virginia with a fully signalized intersection within the corporate limits (US 13 and SR 631).
This is interesting - I have been though there a fair number of times, was not aware the signal was within the corporate limits of a town. VDOT's practice in many (most?, all?) places is that they do not use the traditional 6XX-series secondary routes in towns, but instead a "T" route number (but there are exceptions to be found). Only place I can remember seeing a 600-series signed in a town is 606 in Herndon in Fairfax County (and I am fairly sure that that the
town has signed 606, not VDOT).
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
Clifton (pop 282) is notable for not having any signals despite being within Fairfax County.
The streets in Clifton were VDOT-maintained (with the "T" route numbers as of the last time I was there, over 10 years ago).
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
I'm not sure what the largest town in Virginia without a signal would be...I feel like it would be Occoquan (pop 1205) but I think VA 123 just barely manages to enter the corporate limits, and there's a signal at SR 1203 Commerce Street.
According to a map (http://www.occoquanva.gov/town-maps.html) on the town's Web site, that intersection of VA-123 (Gordon Boulevard) and Commerce Street is entirely within the town.
On that same page, there is a map showing who maintains what - and VDOT maintains a fair number of blocks in the town, but not all of them.
Quote from: Roadsguy on July 03, 2018, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 02, 2018, 03:12:11 PM
The Borough of Milbourne, PA (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Millbourne,+PA+19082/@39.9630389,-75.2560215,16.25z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6c12e7fb100bf:0xece30cca5595af8d!8m2!3d39.9634461!4d-75.2501821) (population of 1,159 per the 2010 census) has three or four of them along Market St./PA 3.
It's probably cheating to include a place just outside the largest city in the state. :P
The OP didn't make any restrictions nor disclaimers. :sombrero:
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Quote from: froggie on May 12, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
In Minnesota, there is one location with a traffic signal that is a minimum 5 miles from the nearest town.
Where's that?
Blomkest (157) may have been the winner until the US 71/MN 7 signal was recently replaced with a roundabout.
I thought that maybe was what froggie was referring to, but I didn't even realize that former signal/now roundabout was actually within the corporate limits of a city. There's the signal at US-14/US-71, but that's only a mile or so outside Sanborn, so that's not it either. Hmmm...
Edit: US-75 and US-212. About five miles either way from Madison or Dawson. I think that's it.
Yes, I was referring to 75/212. Blomkest is only a mile from 71/7. The 75/212 signal has been the "winner" for years...that signal actually predated the former signal at 71/7.
Did we ever figure out what's the current smallest city in Minnesota with a signal? Without putting too much thought into it, Hilltop has to be close (if we count signals along the city boundary as "in the city") with a population of 744.
Not yet. Trying to dig through census figures for incorporated municipalities. That said, a more notable contender for Minnesota would be US 53 in Orr (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0533982,-92.8316241,3a,75y,13.12h,87.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seLPpihcso4DriPucYoVz0g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeLPpihcso4DriPucYoVz0g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.253387%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656), population 267.
(EDIT) I believe I've found Minnesota's winner. Right in the Metro, no less. I present Mendota, MN: population 198. The MN 13/MN 110 signal is partially within the municipal limits.
A few of the smallest towns/municipalities in Michigan that have at least one traffic signal setup would be:
Metamora, Michigan: https://goo.gl/maps/DYVrctWYzjr
Croswell, Michigan: https://goo.gl/maps/kQ3DmyST9s42
Ortonville, Michigan: https://goo.gl/maps/BJUanSLUBwB2
Webberville, Michigan: https://goo.gl/maps/GacKREhBAtv