Why take down all the I-540 signs immediately, AHTD?

[Arkansastravelguy]

Bugo, I have to disagree with you here.  There's no reason to leave the I-540 shields up.  Just get rid of them.  Start anew with I-49.  AHTD wasn't signing US 71 with it anyway.

But I know we agree with co-signing routes.  The exit closest to me (Exit 86) on I-49, got rid of all of the US 71 shields...

I see here and there, with co-signing... I need to start taking pictures, in Rogers.  AR 12 has more routings than I can keep up with.

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.


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[Scott5114]

Sometimes I'm really glad I live in a state that actually signs its highways (except for OK 66 in OKC).

And I-444, and OK-135, and OK-35, and OK-77C, and OK-351, and OK-364, and any of the unnumbered ("OK-0") highways (Coyle, Langston, Poteau, Duncan, Oklahoma City), and OK-14 into Alva, and OK-6 in Altus...

[US71]

Bugo, I have to disagree with you here.  There's no reason to leave the I-540 shields up.  Just get rid of them.  Start anew with I-49.  AHTD wasn't signing US 71 with it anyway.

But I know we agree with co-signing routes.  The exit closest to me (Exit 86) on I-49, got rid of all of the US 71 shields...

I see here and there, with co-signing... I need to start taking pictures, in Rogers.  AR 12 has more routings than I can keep up with.

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

[Arkansastravelguy]

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

I run a Dominos Pizza full time and roadgeek part time


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[US71]

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

I run a Dominos Pizza full time and roadgeek part time

"Mac" Landthrip still a District Manager?

[Arkansastravelguy]

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

I run a Dominos Pizza full time and roadgeek part time

"Mac" Landthrip still a District Manager?

Director of operations


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[US71]

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

I run a Dominos Pizza full time and roadgeek part time

"Mac" Landthrip still a District Manager?

Director of operations

I remember when he was just a simple pizza manager with the King

[Arkansastravelguy]

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

I run a Dominos Pizza full time and roadgeek part time

"Mac" Landthrip still a District Manager?

Director of operations

I remember when he was just a simple pizza manager with the King

And who's the king?? I'll be down that way Tuesday checking out chafee crossing


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[bugo]

Sometimes I'm really glad I live in a state that actually signs its highways (except for OK 66 in OKC).

And I-444, and OK-135, and OK-35, and OK-77C, and OK-351, and OK-364, and any of the unnumbered ("OK-0") highways (Coyle, Langston, Poteau, Duncan, Oklahoma City), and OK-14 into Alva, and OK-6 in Altus...

351 and 365 haven't existed very long so give it time.  The others are mostly just unsigned, they aren't signed as a different highway they are duplexed with.

[bugo]

Is this assembly too hard to read?  Is it cluttered?  Does it convey too much information?  No.  AHTD (the org, not the poster) either 1) is too cheap to post signs which cannot be true because they took down perfectly good US 71 signs that were already there, costing the taxpayer money in labor for removing those signs and besides, they will post TO signs when a directional sign would make more sense; 2) too lazy to post the correct signs which is silly; or 3) they believe that Arkansans are too stupid to follow a road with 3 different designations, which is quite frankly highly offensive.  So what is it?  Lazy?  Cheap?  Offensive?  Whatever the reason, AHTD is the laughing stock of state DOTs in the region.  Shame on you.

[US71]

I've had several people come to my store in Lowell and ask how to get to 540 coming from the airport. They don't know 49 was 540.

What store do you work at?

I run a Dominos Pizza full time and roadgeek part time

"Mac" Landthrip still a District Manager?

Director of operations

I remember when he was just a simple pizza manager with the King

And who's the king?? I'll be down that way Tuesday checking out chaffee crossing

King Pizza (the original, before they sold out to Eureka).

I was one of his better drivers (I could find almost anything) and occasionally worked Day Shift in the kitchen

[Arkansastravelguy]

I don't understand why AHTD doesn't revert 71B back to 71. Locals call it 71 anyway. And at Exit 60 on I-49 it signs 71 seperately. There is no mention at all of 71 merging in with 49. Even the Futrall rd ramp assembly shows I-49/US 62 with no mention of 71


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[US71]

I don't understand why AHTD doesn't revert 71B back to 71. Locals call it 71 anyway. And at Exit 60 on I-49 it signs 71 seperately. There is no mention at all of 71 merging in with 49. Even the Futrall rd ramp assembly shows I-49/US 62 with no mention of 71

There is a sign for 49/71 at Exit 67 (Bus 71) but only northbound.

[Arkansastravelguy]

I don't understand why AHTD doesn't revert 71B back to 71. Locals call it 71 anyway. And at Exit 60 on I-49 it signs 71 seperately. There is no mention at all of 71 merging in with 49. Even the Futrall rd ramp assembly shows I-49/US 62 with no mention of 71

There is a sign for 49/71 at Exit 67 (Bus 71) but only northbound.

It's signed on Fulbright Expwy as well (71S I suppose) so it's scattered. US 62 is all but forgotten... If someone was going from Talequah to say Eureka Springs they've be screwed because US62 just evaporates for 20 miles


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[US71]

I don't understand why AHTD doesn't revert 71B back to 71. Locals call it 71 anyway. And at Exit 60 on I-49 it signs 71 seperately. There is no mention at all of 71 merging in with 49. Even the Futrall rd ramp assembly shows I-49/US 62 with no mention of 71

There is a sign for 49/71 at Exit 67 (Bus 71) but only northbound.

It's signed on Fulbright Expwy as well (71S I suppose) so it's scattered. US 62 is all but forgotten... If someone was going from Talequah to say Eureka Springs they've be screwed because US62 just evaporates for 20 miles

At one time, it was 471 Spur (but never posted).  I prefer 71 Business-Spur, because the signing seems to be a bunch of BS sometimes.

[bugo]

71 should follow the old alignment from West Fork through Fayetteville, Springdale, Rogers, and Bentonville.  The entire Fayetteville bypass should be signed I-149 (co-signed with I-49) or you could just sign the south and north ends of the bypass (you'd waste a number, however).  AR 180 should revert to US 62 like it used to be.  AR 16 should be reconnected with a short hop onto I-49. 

[Molandfreak]

The entire Fayetteville bypass should be signed I-149 (co-signed with I-49) or you could just sign the south and north ends of the bypass (you'd waste a number, however).

what in the world...?

[bjrush]

The entire Fayetteville bypass should be signed I-149 (co-signed with I-49)

What is one good reason this should happen?

[Arkansastravelguy]

The entire Fayetteville bypass should be signed I-149 (co-signed with I-49)

What is one good reason this should happen?

I thought that today driving it. Why 149? Although I can see AHTD signing it 471-S


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[US71]

71 should follow the old alignment from West Fork through Fayetteville, Springdale, Rogers, and Bentonville.  The entire Fayetteville bypass should be signed I-149 (co-signed with I-49) or you could just sign the south and north ends of the bypass (you'd waste a number, however).  AR 180 should revert to US 62 like it used to be.  AR 16 should be reconnected with a short hop onto I-49. 

I agree with 16, but 71 hasn't run through downtown Fayetteville since 1971, or Springdale since the 1980's. Would that not get more confusing?

BTW: the 540 shields have been removed from the exit signs for I-40 at Van Buren (ie the overlap had been removed from the signs)

[Arkansastravelguy]

71 should follow the old alignment from West Fork through Fayetteville, Springdale, Rogers, and Bentonville.  The entire Fayetteville bypass should be signed I-149 (co-signed with I-49) or you could just sign the south and north ends of the bypass (you'd waste a number, however).  AR 180 should revert to US 62 like it used to be.  AR 16 should be reconnected with a short hop onto I-49. 

I agree with 16, but 71 hasn't run through downtown Fayetteville since 1971, or Springdale since the 1980's. Would that not get more confusing?

BTW: the 540 shields have been removed from the exit signs for I-40 at Van Buren (ie the overlap had been removed from the signs)

I don't think going from 71B to 71 would be confusing. People call it 71 snyway


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[M86]

My two cents:

The old timers/people that have lived here for a long time, have always called I-540/now I-49, "the Bypass".

US 71B needs to be a Business Loop of I-49.  Do it the Missouri way.

Also, signing a route as 71B creates issues.  Is the "B" a bypass or a business route?

AHTD has already erased US 71 from the new signage.

Dang... If only I was in charge.

[US71]

My two cents:

The old timers/people that have lived here for a long time, have always called I-540/now I-49, "the Bypass".

US 71B needs to be a Business Loop of I-49.  Do it the Missouri way.

Also, signing a route as 71B creates issues.  Is the "B" a bypass or a business route?

AHTD has already erased US 71 from the new signage.

Dang... If only I was in charge.

They could have solved the problem if they had kept 471 and extended it to Alma and posted the freeway as US 71, as was the original plan

[bugo]

My two cents:

The old timers/people that have lived here for a long time, have always called I-540/now I-49, "the Bypass".

US 71B needs to be a Business Loop of I-49.  Do it the Missouri way.

Where would it hook up to I-49 at the southern end?  By following AR 180/old US 62?  Backtracking on the US 71 freeway stub?

Also, signing a route as 71B creates issues.  Is the "B" a bypass or a business route?

It's common knowledge to most Arkansans that "B" means "business" especially considering there are no bypass routes in Arkansas.

[US71]

My two cents:

The old timers/people that have lived here for a long time, have always called I-540/now I-49, "the Bypass".

US 71B needs to be a Business Loop of I-49.  Do it the Missouri way.

Where would it hook up to I-49 at the southern end?  By following AR 180/old US 62?  Backtracking on the US 71 freeway stub?

Also, signing a route as 71B creates issues.  Is the "B" a bypass or a business route?

It's common knowledge to most Arkansans that "B" means "business" especially considering there are no bypass routes in Arkansas.

It's not done as often anymore, but the B routes used to have a Business banner (Business 71B)