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jp the roadgeek

Quote from: bugo on May 03, 2018, 10:31:51 PM
Sinclair is a propaganda arm of the Republican Party. It is the American version of the Soviet era Pravda newspaper.
No, that would be CNN or Media Matters.  They're more in line with the propaganda that Pravda presents.
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)


Rothman

Psst:  Pravda supported the Soviet administrations in power rather than critiqued them.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

ftballfan

Quote from: SP Cook on May 03, 2018, 01:44:13 PM
Sinclair, BTW, has doubled down on the stupid trying to get its merger with Tribune approved.  For those of you who don't know, federal law prevents any one company from owning stations in more than 39% of the country or more than one of the "big 4" stations in any one market.  Sinclair has a group of dummy companies owned by shills (two of which are currently dead) to bypass these limits.  With the FCC and FTC looking to turn down its purchase of Tribune, it released a list of stations it will "sell".  The its own shills.

Not political, but in my home market (Traverse City, MI), Sinclair owns the ABC and NBC affiliates. The ABC station has actually improved under Sinclair. For years, it wasn't a full market affiliate and may have even cost the Nielsen-defined market a county or two. CBS and FOX are locally owned and share some services (including news and simulcasting on DT2 in order to serve the full market; without that, FOX would have no OTA coverage in the Sault Ste. Marie area)

hbelkins

Quote from: SP Cook on May 03, 2018, 03:23:24 PM
Their Huntington station is WSAZ, which is NBC.  Since ratings started in 1968, it has never had a local news rating lower than double all other stations combined.  They also own the local CW channel, which has a WSAZ produced 10:00 news show. 

WKYT in Lexington (Gray) produces a 10 p.m. newscast for the Fox affiliate, WDKY (Sinclair). The same anchors that do the 10 p.m. hour-long newscast on WDKY do the 11 p.m. news on WKYT. I suspect that when Fox has a sporting event that goes late, they tape the 10 p.m. newscast to they can do the show live on WKYT at 11. It's odd to see a ballgame or NASCAR race last until, say, 10:45, then see the same anchors on at the same time when WDKY is showing their 10 p.m. newscast and WKYT is showing its 11 p.m. news.

WKYT also produces a morning newscast for WDKY during weekdays. And when WKYT is showing the CBS evening news at 6:30 p.m on weeknights, the local CW station in Lexington is showing an extra half-hour of WKYT news, in a much less formal format.

Also recently, the ABC affiliate in Lexington (WTVQ) has started producing a 9 p.m. newscast for the Christian TV station located in my hometown, WLJC.

Since WYMT's market overlaps with both WSAZ's and the Gray station out of Knoxville, they share stories occasionally. It's not uncommon at all, though, to see WKYT stories on WYMT and vice-versa.

A number of folks currently working at WKYT moved up from WYMT. I've gotten to know many of them through work and consider them personal friends. They're truly interested in serving the public and never have I encountered one who was out to "burn" my agency. I know at least two reporters (one is now on the Fox affiliate in Cincinnati, which apparently produces its own newscasts, and the other is now a producer at WKYT) who were assigned a story involving me to be their very first assignment because I'd developed a reputation in the WYMT newsroom as being very easy to deal with. It's flattering when the mother of one of those reporters hunts you down on Facebook, sends you a friend request, and thanks you for being so patient and understanding with her daughter when she got sent out to report her first-ever news story as a professional.

I hate being on TV, but it's part of my job, and I could tell a few stories about my dealings with reporters.

Quote from: bugo on May 03, 2018, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 03, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
There are a number of commenters on WKYT and WYMT's websites and Facebook pages who would disagree with that "no politics" observation. I've seen both stations frequently described as being too liberal.

To you, HB, anything to the left of Sputnik News, Russia Times or Breitbart is "too liberal". I wouldn't be surprised if you called Fox News a part of the "liberal media". It's all about perspectives.

Did you not notice that I was referring to other people who comment on their stories, and not myself? This may come as a complete surprise, but I rarely if ever watch Fox News Channel. Maybe if I'm traveling away from home, I'll watch Carlson or Hannity if nothing else is on, and I'll leave the TV on FNC for background noise overnight while I'm asleep.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

abefroman329

8 hours a night, every night, is an interesting definition of "rarely."

SP Cook

Quote from: hbelkins on May 04, 2018, 11:50:53 AM
I suspect that when Fox has a sporting event that goes late, they tape the 10 p.m. newscast to they can do the show live on WKYT at 11.

I think that is standard practice everwhere.  Here we have 2 10 news.  The illegal Sinclair dual ownership has just one news department, and thus the 10:00 Fox news is a slightly longer version of the 11:00 ABC news.  And Gray has a 10 news on CW and 11 on NBC.  Same deal.  If a ball game or something runs long, the news is taped to run whenever, be it the 10 version or the 11 version.  You can tell because the sports guys never give the score of the game you just finished watching.  As soon as it is 11:35, the news department clears out for the day, even if the actual 11 news is going to be on tape later.

The late night sports guys also tape a short sports segment for the morning news, where the anchors "throw it" to him, even though he is home in bed.

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Also recently, the ABC affiliate in Lexington (WTVQ) has started producing a 9 p.m. newscast for the Christian TV station located in my hometown, WLJC.

The funny one around here is all of WV's Nextstar station share the same weatherman.  He is actually at WOWK which just moved its studio to Charleston (from Huntington) but the guy does local weather, with different maps and saying stuff like "here" and "our area" and banter about the rain not affecting the big game or whatever, for places hundreds of miles away.  It is funny to see the guy on billboards all over the state.  The main weather guy for Nextstar lives in my area and I'm pretty sure he have never even been to Wheeling.

QuoteSince WYMT's market overlaps with both WSAZ's and the Gray station out of Knoxville, they share stories occasionally.

If you look at Gray's website, they have an unbroken chain of bordering stations right across the country, and they share stories one to the next.  We get some Kentucky politics and Big Blue coverage on WSAZ from WKYT staff.

Gray also produces what I will call female oriented filler for its early afternoon news shows.  Stuff about receipes and what soap to buy and the like.  The same material is worked into their similar shows everywhere.  Don't know where it is produced from, but the outdoor shots look like Florida.


Sctvhound

That is what it is like with Raycom in South Carolina. Raycom owns a station in every market in SC, plus Charlotte, Savannah and they have a station they share stories with in Greenville.

They routinely share stories with the "Raycom News Network"  banner. When there was a military plane crash in Savannah last week, the Raycom stations used WTOC (the CBS in Savannah)'s reporters to cover it, and sent it out across the country. They own stations in like 45 TV markets, but I'd say they use at least 3 or 4 stories a day from national sources of those stations here.

Sinclair's "network"  is much bigger. They frequently use their stations in SC to broadcast stuff. The Miss South Carolina pageant, for example, is syndicated throughout the state and airs on a random Saturday in June, on ABC in Charleston, Fox in Columbia, and their other stations in the state.

The last state election cycle they aired a couple of gubernatorial debates and simulcasted them throughout the state. Nexstar (the old Media General) has the rights to the Clemson coaches show.

In Charleston, the Raycom station (CBS) is a heritage station. They usually get at least double the rating the ABC and NBC stations have. Whatever they show (except for Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy on NBC and a couple of popular ABC shows) is usually #1 in the market. They have a bunch of experienced reporters, while the NBC and ABC have a lot of young folks that are on their first jobs.

vdeane

Nextar own a station in every media market in NY except NYC (so basically just upstate NY).  They have the Albany station produce a show called Empire State Weekly (which is basically a state-level equivalent of programs like ABC's This Week), which is syndicated across their NY stations.  Their Albany stations air it Sundays at 11, but I've noticed on the schedule that's posted online that many of the stations (particularly in Rochester/Buffalo/Syracuse) air it quite early, so viewers would have to get up early, DVR it, or watch it online (assuming they remember to post it in a timely fashion; they sometimes don't).
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

bing101

#158
Nexstar Television is best known to San Francisco Area viewers for the Merger of Media General and Nexstar. Note KRON4 San Francisco the former NBC Affiliate in San Francisco is now the flagship station for Nexstar Television. And interestingly Nexstar Productions is based in the same building as Disney's KGO-TV ABC7 at 900 Front Street San Francisco.


http://www.kron4.com/contact-us

http://abc7news.com/news/abc7now-contact-abc7-news/22567/

Note this is a rare case where competing TV stations who are not duopolies or have no LMA with each other at least in San Francisco share the same building to rental costs for offices or ownership costs for offices are in the same building.

Yes the West Coast offices for Nexstar's flagship station happens to be located at the Disney Building in San Francisco.  I don't know if that's true in other places. But Disney has broadcast agreements with Nexstar for ABC affiliation deals in New Haven, CT and other places though.

bing101

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113455/fox-buying-7-sinclair-spinoffs-for-910m

Now Fox has announced that they are getting 7 Divested Sinclair Stations most notably KTXL Sacramento, KCPQ Seattle, KSWB San Diego, KDVR Denver and WJW are noted in the deal.



http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113461/sinclair-retrans-becoming-the-new-core

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113456/sinclair-1q-media-revenue-climbs-6

and more updates on Sinclair.

US 89

Quote from: bing101 on May 09, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113455/fox-buying-7-sinclair-spinoffs-for-910m

Now Fox has announced that they are getting 7 Divested Sinclair Stations most notably KTXL Sacramento, KCPQ Seattle, KSWB San Diego, KDVR Denver and WJW are noted in the deal.



http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113461/sinclair-retrans-becoming-the-new-core

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113456/sinclair-1q-media-revenue-climbs-6

and more updates on Sinclair.

There's also KSTU Salt Lake City and WSFL Miami (which is a CW station).

Also, why the size tags?

hotdogPi

Quote from: US 89 on May 09, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: bing101 on May 09, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113455/fox-buying-7-sinclair-spinoffs-for-910m

Now Fox has announced that they are getting 7 Divested Sinclair Stations most notably KTXL Sacramento, KCPQ Seattle, KSWB San Diego, KDVR Denver and WJW are noted in the deal.



http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113461/sinclair-retrans-becoming-the-new-core

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113456/sinclair-1q-media-revenue-climbs-6

and more updates on Sinclair.

You forgot to mention KSTU Salt Lake City and WSFL Miami (which is a CW station).

Also, why the size tags?

Someone mentioned that they were automatically added for some people when scrolling, or something like that. I forget the details, though.
Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

KEVIN_224

Makes sense for FOX to pick up channel 13 of Tacoma. Most Seattle Seahawks games air on that station.

bing101

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/features/fl-reg-wsvn-channel-7-may-lose-fox-affiliation-20180511-story.html




http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/113547/ansin-confident-in-wsvns-ongoing-success


Ed Ansin the owner of WHDH Boston and WSVN Miami responds to rumors that WSFL will get Fox programming from WSVN Miami. This is the same issue Ed Ansin had to deal with in Boston when NBC got WBTS-TV and removed NBC programming from WHDH-TV.

bing101

https://www.reuters.com/article/raycom-ma-gray-television/update-1-gray-television-to-buy-raycom-media-in-365-bln-deal-idUSL4N1TR42N

Update Reuters is Reporting that Raycom and Gray television are proposed to merge together.

This deal affects Cleveland WOIO-TV and Hawaii News Now in Honolulu both owned by Raycom and they are affected by the proposed deal.


hbelkins

Yep. Gray's buying Raycom. It's been big news in my area where the Lexington CBS affiliate (WKYT) and the Hazard station (WYMT) are owned by Gray.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

bing101

https://gray.tv/index.php?page=station-list

https://www.raycommedia.com/companies/

Here are the Current list of stations owned by Gray and Raycom as of June 2018

WVLT, WYMT, WKYT and WSAZ are currently Grays Largest Stations pre-merger.


WXIX, WOIO, WUAB and WWSB are Raycom's Current Largest stations as of 2018

Gray's National News office is in Washington DC.
https://www.raycommedia.com/gray-and-raycom-to-combine-in-a-3-6-billion-transaction/
Here is Raycom's Official Statement on the deal with Gray Television.


SP Cook

The deal will probably sail through, as Gray/Raycom will have stations in only 24% of the country, behind Sinclair/Tribune, Nexstar, and TEGNA (the old Gannett), and just ahead of Hearst and Scripps. 

ASSUMING (they don't) the FCC actually enforced the law, the overlap stations are few.  Knoxville (Raycom Fox, Gray CBS) , Toledo (Raycom CBS, Gray ABC) , Waco (Raycom ABC, Gray CBS) , Tallahassee (Raycom ABC, Gray CBS) , Augusta (Raycom Fox, Gray CBS) , and Odessa/Midland (Raycom NBC, Gray CBS).  There also is overlap in the incomplete markets of Panama City and Dothan, but different rules apply to incomplete markets. 

Raycom is also offering for sale its Community Newspapers division, which publishes hick town "Billy Bob is back from basic, Sandra Sue got engaged, Old Man Johnson's barn burnt down" type newspapers.  Someday the taxpayers will realize how many millions of dollars are wasted in buying legal ads (the tiny print notices no one reads in the back of the paper) which are what really keeps these things going.  The whole system could be moved on line easily with simple legislation at the state level.


bandit957

The FCC or the states need to halt this merger on antitrust grounds.
Might as well face it, pooing is cool

bing101

https://tvnewscheck.com/article/top-news/wuab-clevelands-new-cw-affiliate/

Here is an Update WUAB a Raycom owned station in Cleveland will get the CW Affiliation.

bing101


jwolfer

Quote from: KEVIN_224 on April 20, 2018, 08:45:52 PM
Probably because it's physically closer to Philadelphia and that Pennsylvania is on the other side of the river? I've seen ads for WPVI-TV (ABC) channel 6 at Arm & Hammer Field more than once.


Mercer County NJ was part of Philadelphia metro area until recently. Prinxeron area had a lot of people move in who commute to northern NJ or New York City that's why it flipped metro areas. Closer to Trenton is still in the Philadelphia orbit, Eagles fans etc. It has always been part of Philly Media market.

Pt Pleasant Beach in Ocean County where I grew up always had both NYC and Philadelphia channels on cable, as did pretty much all of Ocean County . The best. News coverage back when I lived there seemed to be from the Philadelphia channels, specifically channel 6. 

But as long as I am aware Ocean County has been a part of the NYC metro and media market. Maybe channel 6 was trying to poach viewers to gain another county in their market

Z981


Sctvhound

That area is so weird to see. One side of the area (Ocean County) gets all the New York and Philly stations (except for NBC I believe), while Monmouth County only gets NY plus Channel 6.

An inlet separates Ocean and Monmouth Counties and the New York and Philly markets.

I stayed in Manasquan at a beach house a couple years ago and I could get most of the New York and Philly radio stations, except for the ones on the same frequency (101.1 and 100.3 both favored New York).

bing101

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/07/16/sinclair-merger-trump-tribune-689026?__twitter_impression=true


Update Sinclair has been denied approval to get the Tribune stations.


Note I can see Gray facing a similar issue some time in the future over the Raycom deal.

ce929wax

The OTA signals suck around here.  I can only get WXMI, WOTV, and WGVK sometimes.  I don't even get channel 3 even though it is licensed to Kalamazoo.  These antennas that they say are supposed to pull in channels don't.  I've heard that an old time antenna will pull in channels better than the new ones, but I have no idea where to get one anymore.  I do get WWMT through my CBS All Access streaming service, but it would be nice if I could get all the others in my market too. 



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