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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2019, 10:41:02 PM »

I-73 / I-85 near Greensboro, NC, though it's a very short concurrency, and technically they could be considered as two separate roadways.
They could have made a better design because i'm not sure what they were thinking that time, I-73 should have directly went to I-85 at the interchange like this

http://prntscr.com/p5x448

Obviously some bad engineer designed the interchange like that. In my screenshot, this is how the freeway should have went and it would be up to interstate standards also.

If you make a fictional plan about it, I would love to see it!
The US-220 / I-73 freeway existed long before the I-85 / I-73 Greensboro Loop portion did. I-73 was never intended to follow the loop, but rather go up to I-40 and follow I-40 to NC-68 northwards. That's why a major flyover exists from US-220 North to I-40 West, but not where I-73 nowadays officially turns.

I agree though, there needs to be a high-speed flyover instead of the 25 MPH loop.
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #76 on: September 29, 2019, 11:59:33 PM »

I-44/OK-3 around the west side of OKC.

I remember that one from when I lived in OKC.  It makes for this amusingly confusing sign-- the West East West East West part has to be boggling to people that don't know the area:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4613021,-97.5601324,3a,75y,259.81h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNt1C3DOBXYIUL8lsjgeksQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2019, 08:12:23 AM »

South Bend: https://goo.gl/maps/UrU4EnKAHHT2
They share pavement on Sample from Lincolnway to Main Street.

Was just on this stretch of road Saturday heading home from the game.
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2019, 02:32:35 PM »



I mapped that stretch based on the official routing of RI-114.

Forgive me for being skeptical; but is there an actual document source or official map that shows that oddball routing?  No offense to anyone here, I'm not talking about blogs or hobby-enthusiast's sites (like this one) which was what I got via a Google search; but an actual, official site.  I even tried RIDOT but I couldn't even find a decent map on their website that actually shows how RI 114 (& even RI 15) is routed through Pawtucket.

Note: the Wiki account only shows someone's Google Map trip routings circa 2011-2012.

What's currently shown on Google Maps, correct or not, appears to be the most logical & direct routing of RI 114 through Pawtucket.

Doggone it, I can't for the life of me find the document I used to trace the route back when I made that original post.

I keep coming back to this...

While I cannot seem to confirm the following assertion, I think it's worth mentioning here.

Quote from: Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Rhode Island/Comparison of sources for numbered routes in Rhode Island
Rhode Island is in a fairly unique situation in the United States in that the different sections of the Rhode Island Department of Transportation (RIDOT) sometimes disagree about what roads are numbered State Highways. The differing sources include signage on the roads themselves (which is often sporadic or nonexistent), GIS data supplied to RIGIS from RIDOT, maps on RIDOT's website, and RIDOT's pavement management division.

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RIDOT's Pavement Management division produces a log for internal use in helping workers travel the numbered highways to assess pavement quality. The following observations are from a 2001 copy of the log. The "RINO" field of the "1:5,000 Roads" GIS data layer is largely equivalent to these descriptions, and as a whole these are the closest match to actual signage. When those two are compared, the pavement log agrees with signage in the majority or cases where the two sources disagree.

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At least two cities, Pawtucket and Woonsocket, keep logs of their own.

Pawtucket

Pawtucket's data agrees with RIDOT's except in two cases. ... A similar configuration exists with Route 114, where Pawtucket gives it a straighter route.

So it appears the official RIDOT routing would be found in the Pavement Log, while the city of Pawtucket's own log disagrees.  Someone would need to obtain a copy of those two items in order to confirm or deny.
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2019, 05:06:22 PM »

US 80 and 280 have a wrong-way concurrency in Phenix City, Alabama (yes, the spelling is correct). Both routes are also concurrent with US 431.

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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #80 on: October 01, 2019, 08:11:32 PM »

US 80 and 280 have a wrong-way concurrency in Phenix City, Alabama (yes, the spelling is correct). Both routes are also concurrent with US 431.

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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2022, 02:44:27 PM »

I realize this is an old thread, but since it's a "compilation", and I can't find a better place to put it, here's one that I somehow never knew about until just now: NY 78/NY 98 in Java, NY.
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2022, 02:57:50 PM »

Minnesota’s only one, MN 23 and MN 67 south of Granite Falls, will get a couple miles longer this fall as MN 67 is permanently rerouted to bypass a current long-term closure.
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #83 on: August 21, 2022, 11:01:13 PM »

Surprised that nobody ever mentioned the wrong-way concurrency in West Virginia that keeps changing:  WV-817 (north-and-south) and WV-34 (south-and-north) between the Winfield Toll Bridge and the Winfield Locks.  Originally, it was WV-17 (north-and-south) but after the Silver Bridge Disaster it became US-35 (north-and-south).

The wrong-way concurrency on the other side of the Winfield Toll Bridge only changed once.  Originally US-35 (north-and-south) and WV-34 (south-and-north), but after the Silver Bridge Disaster US-35 became WV-62 (north-and-south).  So that gives you two different wrong-way concurrencies between US-35 (north-and-south) and WV-34 (south-and-north) separated by the Kanawha River (and time).

Perhaps I should add the wrong-way concurrency on the north side of the river is a bit odd.  The concurrency between WV-62 northbound and WV-34 southbound runs between Red House and the Winfield Toll Bridge.  But WV-62 southbound bypasses underneath the bridge, meaning that there is a short stretch [east] of the Winfield Toll Bridge where one lane is WV-62(N)/WV-34(S) and the other lane of the same road only carries WV-34 northbound.  [West] of the bridge, WV-62 is a one-way pair.

And of course, there haven't been any tolls on the Winfield Toll Bridge since 1978.  There's a funny story when the bridge was being reconstructed in 2010 where WVDOH posted signs that the "Winfield Toll Bridge" would "reopen by August 20".  That unleashed a whole bunch of concern by not-so-local residents that the bridge would also charge tolls.  It is one of the few remaining Warren Truss bridges of any significant length, and therefore is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #84 on: August 22, 2022, 12:00:15 AM »

Québec has a handful of those.

- A-55 NB/QC 143 SB (with A-20 EB) in Drummondville
- QC 101 NB/QC 117 SB in Rouyn-Noranda
- QC 132 EB/QC 234 WB near Mont-Joli
- QC 143 NB/QC 243 SB (with QC 116 WB) in Richmond
- QC 219 NB/QC 221 SB in Napierville
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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2022, 08:46:22 PM »

Two in Adirondack Park:
NY 3/NY 86 in Saranac Lake.
NY 9N/NY 22 in Keeseville.

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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #87 on: September 05, 2022, 06:58:39 PM »

I forgot a Michigan one earlier:  M-96 and BL I-94 in Battle Creek.  (They also have a separate same-way concurrency on the east side of town.)


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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #88 on: October 31, 2022, 02:47:13 PM »

In Bemus Point, NY
https://goo.gl/maps/8AfLutWx51bKQpq39

This is EAST NY-430 and WEST Chautauqua CR 44. The road is going southwest at this point.

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Re: The wrong way concurrency compilation thread
« Reply #89 on: October 31, 2022, 03:03:23 PM »

I've yet to see US 127/US 421 in Frankfort, KY, mentioned.
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