AARoads Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

New rules for political content in signatures and user profiles. See this thread for details.

Author Topic: New Jersey  (Read 634702 times)

TheGrassGuy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 975
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: July 20, 2021, 12:46:00 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3275 on: June 11, 2021, 09:32:17 PM »

The finished Bypass is finally visible on Google Maps.
Logged
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

storm2k

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1048
  • Age: 40
  • Location: NJ
  • Last Login: Today at 01:04:39 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3276 on: June 12, 2021, 01:46:59 AM »

Wonder how long it will take them to get new GSV imagery for that area. Last update was in late 2019. Hope it isn't the case where they sent the car thru there in late 2020 and we don't get updated GSV until early 2022 or something.
Logged

TheGrassGuy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 975
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: July 20, 2021, 12:46:00 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3277 on: June 12, 2021, 09:32:56 AM »

Wonder how long it will take them to get new GSV imagery for that area. Last update was in late 2019. Hope it isn't the case where they sent the car thru there in late 2020 and we don't get updated GSV until early 2022 or something.
I actually prefer 2019 imagery to 2020 imagery. Because of the pandemic, and also because of the fact that 2019 imagery generally showcases the brighter seasons.
Logged
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

storm2k

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1048
  • Age: 40
  • Location: NJ
  • Last Login: Today at 01:04:39 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3278 on: June 13, 2021, 06:04:32 PM »

Took a ride on the completed 206 bypass today:










So, yeah. Based on how they signed this, it's almost like they plan on leaving 206 signed along its current route and signing the bypass just as 206 Bypass even though the plans as I've known them have been to reroute 206 on the bypass and turn the old 206 over to the township. Not thrilled by that. Would have rather they just setup the signage to point 206 itself onto the bypass and be done with it, but it's at both ends. Plus, the EMM for 206 Business is interesting.
Logged

NJRoadfan

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1570
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 07:37:46 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3279 on: June 13, 2021, 08:00:21 PM »

I have a feeling the EMM is an error. Someone confused "206B" for business instead of bypass.
Logged

storm2k

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1048
  • Age: 40
  • Location: NJ
  • Last Login: Today at 01:04:39 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3280 on: June 13, 2021, 09:51:17 PM »

I have a feeling the EMM is an error. Someone confused "206B" for business instead of bypass.

Probably. I want to see if NJDOT eventually puts up EMMs for 206 itself.
Logged

famartin

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 640
  • Location: Washington DC suburbs
  • Last Login: Today at 03:25:12 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3281 on: June 13, 2021, 09:59:47 PM »

I have a feeling the EMM is an error. Someone confused "206B" for business instead of bypass.

Probably. I want to see if NJDOT eventually puts up EMMs for 206 itself.

What do you mean exactly?  I'm confused.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.483201,-74.6530881,3a,75y,22.78h,86.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smaWgGZPs-rN2ByW39p_oJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Logged

jeffandnicole

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 12332
  • Age: 46
  • Location: South Jersey
  • Last Login: Today at 03:31:52 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3282 on: June 13, 2021, 10:13:25 PM »

Took a ride on the completed 206 bypass today...


This post seems awfully close to the roadway with no guardrail protection.

While it's in a way no different than a traffic light post, usually signage like this along the roadway is further back or protected.
Logged

The Ghostbuster

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3088
  • Age: 36
  • Location: Madison, WI
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 01:57:04 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3283 on: June 14, 2021, 02:33:00 PM »

Google Maps calls the US 206 bypass of Hillsborough the Peter J. Biondi Bypass. Who is/was Peter J. Biondi?
Logged

famartin

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 640
  • Location: Washington DC suburbs
  • Last Login: Today at 03:25:12 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3284 on: June 14, 2021, 03:14:37 PM »

Google Maps calls the US 206 bypass of Hillsborough the Peter J. Biondi Bypass. Who is/was Peter J. Biondi?
He advocated for the bypass
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_J._Biondi
Logged

storm2k

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1048
  • Age: 40
  • Location: NJ
  • Last Login: Today at 01:04:39 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3285 on: June 15, 2021, 12:43:17 AM »

I have a feeling the EMM is an error. Someone confused "206B" for business instead of bypass.

Probably. I want to see if NJDOT eventually puts up EMMs for 206 itself.

What do you mean exactly?  I'm confused.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.483201,-74.6530881,3a,75y,22.78h,86.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smaWgGZPs-rN2ByW39p_oJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The bypass is supposed to become 206 and current 206 that goes through the Hillsborough Business District is supposed to be returned to the township. I'll believe that is what's going to happen more if they put EMMs for 206 on the bypass itself. Because the way they signed this all, it feels very much like 206 is going to stay 206 and the bypass is just going to be a bypass route.
Logged

Alps

  • Everybody Obeys the Octagon
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 14290
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 38
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3286 on: June 16, 2021, 12:47:38 AM »

I have a feeling the EMM is an error. Someone confused "206B" for business instead of bypass.

Probably. I want to see if NJDOT eventually puts up EMMs for 206 itself.

What do you mean exactly?  I'm confused.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.483201,-74.6530881,3a,75y,22.78h,86.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smaWgGZPs-rN2ByW39p_oJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The bypass is supposed to become 206 and current 206 that goes through the Hillsborough Business District is supposed to be returned to the township. I'll believe that is what's going to happen more if they put EMMs for 206 on the bypass itself. Because the way they signed this all, it feels very much like 206 is going to stay 206 and the bypass is just going to be a bypass route.
I think it's going to stay as is until every I is dotted and T is crossed and AASHTO says it's okay and the town is ready.

mariethefoxy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 359
  • I'm a traveling fox :3

  • Age: 34
  • Location: Seacoast New Hampshire
  • Last Login: July 23, 2021, 12:46:31 PM
    • Magic Foxy Artworks
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3287 on: June 18, 2021, 12:51:14 PM »

Field update: NJ 7 bridge is complete and signs are up.

any photos from it?
Logged

Alps

  • Everybody Obeys the Octagon
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 14290
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 38
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3288 on: June 18, 2021, 03:53:03 PM »

Field update: NJ 7 bridge is complete and signs are up.

any photos from it?
someday

SignBridge

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1675
  • Location: Long Island, New York
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 09:56:28 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3289 on: June 18, 2021, 08:30:20 PM »

Are we talking about the Wittpenn Bridge?
Logged

mariethefoxy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 359
  • I'm a traveling fox :3

  • Age: 34
  • Location: Seacoast New Hampshire
  • Last Login: July 23, 2021, 12:46:31 PM
    • Magic Foxy Artworks
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3290 on: June 18, 2021, 11:12:50 PM »

yup, Alps said the new Whitpenn bridge is open so I was wondering if anyone has any photos from the new one.
Logged

Alps

  • Everybody Obeys the Octagon
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 14290
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 38
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3291 on: June 19, 2021, 01:12:06 AM »

yup, Alps said the new Whitpenn bridge is open so I was wondering if anyone has any photos from the new one.
I did not

mariethefoxy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 359
  • I'm a traveling fox :3

  • Age: 34
  • Location: Seacoast New Hampshire
  • Last Login: July 23, 2021, 12:46:31 PM
    • Magic Foxy Artworks
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3292 on: June 19, 2021, 05:52:31 PM »

I mistook complete for being open. I figured it was complete like the whole project was done.
Logged

roadman65

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 11216
  • Location: Lakeland, Florida
  • Last Login: Today at 01:58:12 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3293 on: June 20, 2021, 01:58:41 AM »

I guess not. Look how long it took for NJDOT to rebuild the viaduct over Wilson Avenue, Delancey Street, and Oak Island yards on US 1& 9 in Newark.

Then the Hillsborough Bypass took well over a decade to complete.

NJ works on their own schedule.
Logged
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 640
  • Location: Washington DC suburbs
  • Last Login: Today at 03:25:12 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3294 on: June 20, 2021, 02:55:05 AM »

I guess not. Look how long it took for NJDOT to rebuild the viaduct over Wilson Avenue, Delancey Street, and Oak Island yards on US 1& 9 in Newark.

Then the Hillsborough Bypass took well over a decade to complete.

NJ works on their own schedule.

Lets not forget 42/76/295...

NJDOT works on a schedule closer to PTC, with NJTA in its own little (much accelerated) world.
Logged

storm2k

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1048
  • Age: 40
  • Location: NJ
  • Last Login: Today at 01:04:39 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3295 on: June 21, 2021, 12:43:56 PM »

440 (Middlesex portion) update on new signs: this sign bridge has been replaced. The new sign for the 514 WB exit is tall and super skinny, like they wanted to make the whole sign fit over one lane and add more signs (looks like they added a 440 reassurance sign with Staten Island/Outerbridge Cr to it).

Median repair work in this area has been completed. New structure supports are in place to replace this sign bridge as well as this one. Replacement sign bridge is up on the Turnpike/514WB ramp from 440SB here.

I will try to grab pictures of new signs the next time I have an opportunity.
Logged

Roadgeek Adam

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1163
  • Warren CR 14 - Warrensburg, NY

  • Age: 30
  • Location: East Amherst, New York
  • Last Login: July 26, 2021, 11:29:30 PM
    • My Flickr Photostream
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3296 on: June 21, 2021, 08:18:09 PM »

That entire stretch of 440 is due for sign replacement.
Logged
Adam Seth Moss
M.A. History, Western Illinois University '17
B.A. History, Montclair State University '15
A.A. History & Education - Middlesex County College '13

roadman65

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 11216
  • Location: Lakeland, Florida
  • Last Login: Today at 01:58:12 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3297 on: June 22, 2021, 12:56:44 PM »

Did NJDOT file the Hillsborough US 206 bypass with AASHTO?

Rhetorical question, but according to this. No.

https://grmservices.grmims.com/vsearch/portal/public/na4/aashto/default
« Last Edit: June 22, 2021, 01:08:37 PM by roadman65 »
Logged
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

jeffandnicole

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 12332
  • Age: 46
  • Location: South Jersey
  • Last Login: Today at 03:31:52 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3298 on: June 22, 2021, 05:46:23 PM »

Did NJDOT file the Hillsborough US 206 bypass with AASHTO?

Rhetorical question, but according to this. No.

https://grmservices.grmims.com/vsearch/portal/public/na4/aashto/default

I never saw anything where NJ filed the 322 bypass with AASHTO either.  But it's been signed as US 322 since day 1.
Logged

roadman65

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 11216
  • Location: Lakeland, Florida
  • Last Login: Today at 01:58:12 PM
Re: New Jersey
« Reply #3299 on: June 22, 2021, 06:06:00 PM »

Yet US 9 is not signed on Cape May County Road 623, and it still is on its old route up to the missing Beeslys Point Bridge.  Same situation as US 322, where AASHTO is not notified, but you figure that NJDOT would just sign it anyway.

SB the NJTA does a good job signing it though, but NJDOT want people to drive in to a dead end following US 9.  I guess they have complete faith in the GPS (Great Piece of Sh**).
Logged
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

 


Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.