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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6550 on: September 02, 2021, 07:37:24 AM »

A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

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Put that one in the hill signage thread!

That looks like a lot to take in at 65 MPH!!!!

There may be a pullout at which it is mandatory for trucks to stop. I havenít looked at Street View (if available) to confirm whether thatís the case, but often when you see these sorts of signs thereís a spot where truckers have to stop and check their brakes and thatís where you find this sort of sign.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6551 on: September 02, 2021, 12:11:45 PM »

I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.



That isn't Series D - at least not what Georgia used. Georgia's font is/was way worse:

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6552 on: September 02, 2021, 12:35:56 PM »

There may be a pullout at which it is mandatory for trucks to stop. I havenít looked at Street View (if available) to confirm whether thatís the case, but often when you see these sorts of signs thereís a spot where truckers have to stop and check their brakes and thatís where you find this sort of sign.

I've encountered quite a few hill descent map signs in person, StreetView, and construction plans sets, and am slowly compiling a national list of them.  Many are visible to moving traffic, but I have yet to find one that doesn't have a layby or pullout within eyeshot where drivers can stop to prepare for the descent (and road enthusiasts can park while photographing the signs).
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6553 on: September 02, 2021, 12:36:24 PM »

I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.



That isn't Series D - at least not what Georgia used. Georgia's font is/was way worse:


The ADOT one is actual Series D.  Georgia used a special font unique to them called Georgia D.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6554 on: September 02, 2021, 01:48:24 PM »

I rather like Georgia D. Perhaps just because itís different.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6555 on: September 02, 2021, 03:22:03 PM »

Georgia D is more typographically well-formed than vanilla Series D.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6556 on: September 02, 2021, 06:19:19 PM »

I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.



That isn't Series D - at least not what Georgia used. Georgia's font is/was way worse:


The ADOT one is actual Series D.  Georgia used a special font unique to them called Georgia D.

Actually "Georgia D" is still used, it's nearly identical (no weird "D") to the Series D put out by Page Studio Graphics in the late 90s or early 00s. That's the version of Series D primarily used on mixed case signs on non-freeways in Arizona. I've seen it in plenty of other places.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6557 on: September 02, 2021, 10:33:37 PM »

I have been a proponent of calling that version of the font "chocolate" Series D (to contrast with "vanilla" Series D found in the SHS book). It predates Page Studio Graphics; I think it's been in circulation since at least the 70s. There are matching versions of the other series as well; Springfield MO has used chocolate Series B on its street blades for the last couple of decades.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6558 on: September 03, 2021, 02:00:06 AM »

A weird but clever way to split the bottom tab. Seen on I-182 WB:

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6559 on: September 03, 2021, 12:06:46 PM »

I like this sign arrangement in Niagara Falls, Ontario:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ontario_Highway_420_(26800987753).jpg

Granted if we had something like this, we'd have to adjust it to our own MUTCD standards, but that's okay. Unless those roads were for motorist services, then we' could keep it blue.

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« Reply #6560 on: September 03, 2021, 12:11:25 PM »

I like this sign arrangement in Niagara Falls, Ontario:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ontario_Highway_420_(26800987753).jpg

Granted if we had something like this, we'd have to adjust it to our own MUTCD standards, but that's okay. Unless those roads were for motorist services, then we' could keep it blue.



"Alternate to Falls" is ominous.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6561 on: September 03, 2021, 01:03:03 PM »

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.

Is that the furthest away the Golden Gate Bridge is mentioned?
It's a pretty famous sign amongst roadgeeks.

I've actually stayed at the hotel in the picture, too. It was ... interesting.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6562 on: September 03, 2021, 01:22:24 PM »

A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:



Put that one in the hill signage thread!
We have one of those?

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6563 on: September 03, 2021, 11:46:01 PM »

We have one of those?

I think this is the one being referred to:

Interesting Hill Signage

I've been meaning to start a thread dedicated specifically to hill descent map signs, which represent a share but not the totality of the signs shown in that thread.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6564 on: September 04, 2021, 09:21:11 AM »

To me California cut outs are 😎 cool.

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6565 on: September 04, 2021, 10:16:41 AM »

^ I much prefer Californiaís US Routes shield design than what the rest of the states use.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6566 on: September 04, 2021, 11:32:40 AM »

To me California cut outs are 😎 cool.



Thatís a more recent replacement/installation.  It has the cardinal direction on top of the shield instead of below, which is a recent change to the California MUTCD, and it also uses a First Letter is Larger cardinal direction sign, which is also a recent practice.  I agree with you that it looks good.

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6567 on: September 04, 2021, 12:19:05 PM »

I still prefer the slightly thicker numbers on older shields, particularly the Scotchlite ones. But glad we still post cutouts in the Golden State.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6568 on: September 04, 2021, 08:56:02 PM »

To me California cut outs are 😎 cool.



Thatís a more recent replacement/installation.  It has the cardinal direction on top of the shield instead of below, which is a recent change to the California MUTCD, and it also uses a First Letter is Larger cardinal direction sign, which is also a recent practice.  I agree with you that it looks good.
They use this commonly in the north.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6569 on: September 05, 2021, 02:12:24 AM »

Single-panel sign for both tiers of speed limits (a bit rare in Washington):



And also a construction speed zone:

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6570 on: September 05, 2021, 08:51:01 AM »

Bruce's post makes me think of the peculiar work zone speed limit signs North Carolina used in the 1990s (I donít recall seeing any of these on I-95 in May and June of this year, but they might still use these in other parts of the state). Having "speed limit" on a single line like that always looked strange to me (the typeface is odd too, but it was the single-line "speed limit" that always caught my eye as weird). I guess if the sign caught your eye, thatís a good thing, although I donít recall them generally being effective at getting people to do 55.

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« Reply #6571 on: September 05, 2021, 12:18:23 PM »

^ From what I remember, the signs that were used on the I-95 zones were variable speed limit signs, something North Carolina commonly seems to use on work zones. The speed limit was still set through the entire zone at 65 mph though, despite the shifted lanes, barriers, etc. Itís reasonable though, given the flow was ~80 mph and it was a decently designed work zone.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6572 on: September 05, 2021, 12:29:45 PM »

Single-panel sign for both tiers of speed limits (a bit rare in Washington):



And also a construction speed zone:



used on our street.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6573 on: September 05, 2021, 01:59:32 PM »

And also a construction speed zone:


The City of Norman owns one of those, and it turns up in random places across the city. Once, it was even in my yard for a day or two.


I kind of wonder if it has some sort of data-recorder function and it's actually being used to do speed studies.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6574 on: September 05, 2021, 07:30:28 PM »

Once a portable speed display was posted at the beginning of a residential street that is legally blocked off from traffic.  The only legal way for traffic to pass the sign would be for a resident to pull out of a driveway and start driving that direction.  Mainly it must have been for traffic driving over the Botts dots for entering the street illegally.
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