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Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly

Started by mass_citizen, December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM

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I remember them signing US 144 in the early aughts.

However that white guide is odd that they've used there. The shields may be erroneous, but the white sign is off beat.
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74/171FAN

Quote from: roadman65 on October 02, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
I remember them signing US 144 in the early aughts.

However that white guide is odd that they've used there. The shields may be erroneous, but the white sign is off beat.

US 144 is a Colonial Heights thing not Hopewell.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.msg2864804#msg2864804)

Quote from: 1 on October 02, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
So only multiples of 12 become US routes?

Hopewell has signed US 10 as well.  I am unable to post a photo of it at the moment, but you can browse through my Facebook albums or GSV and find it.
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mglass87

Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:

Hopewell even turned the infamous mutant VA 10 shield into a US shield. Don't have any photos of what it looks like now though.

74/171FAN

Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:

Hopewell even turned the infamous mutant VA 10 shield into a US shield. Don't have any photos of what it looks like now though.

That must have been very recent.  It was still there when I visited my parents back in August.
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mglass87

Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:

Hopewell even turned the infamous mutant VA 10 shield into a US shield. Don't have any photos of what it looks like now though.

That must have been very recent.  It was still there when I visited my parents back in August.

Yeah, they seem to be on a sign replacing spree lately.

CovalenceSTU

Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot by Liliana Vess, on Flickr
We have a 5-sided sign in Astoria for similar reasons, which I thought I posted when joining the forums but apparently not:

LilianaUwU

Quote from: CovalenceSTU on October 02, 2023, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot by Liliana Vess, on Flickr
We have a 5-sided sign in Astoria for similar reasons, which I thought I posted when joining the forums but apparently not:

There's also hexagons on I-78.
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kphoger

Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
There's also hexagons on I-78.

Thanks.  I was looking for examples of that but gave up.

Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?
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LilianaUwU

Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
There's also hexagons on I-78.

Thanks.  I was looking for examples of that but gave up.

Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I don't see why it would, because it's better to have the sign hang off the ledge (though it would be hell to pick it up in case of a bad move when putting it up).
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74/171FAN

Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 09:04:08 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 02, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
I remember them signing US 144 in the early aughts.

However that white guide is odd that they've used there. The shields may be erroneous, but the white sign is off beat.

US 144 is a Colonial Heights thing not Hopewell.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.msg2864804#msg2864804)

Quote from: 1 on October 02, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
So only multiples of 12 become US routes?

Hopewell has signed US 10 as well.  I am unable to post a photo of it at the moment, but you can browse through my Facebook albums or GSV and find it.

One of the US 10 photos:

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217882379171636&set=a.10217882434013007)

Anyway, on US 24 WB at US 41/US 52 EB in western Indiana (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219487999751147&set=a.10219488070432914)



And on US 150 WB at IL 29 in Peoria (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219488061952702&set=a.10219488070432914)



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Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PMDoes anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I think the 2003 MUTCD allowed it, but I don't remember if that concession was limited to construction signs.
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74/171FAN

This is IL trying to be NJ on US 150 in Peoria.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219487721464190&set=a.10219488070432914)


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thenetwork

Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on October 02, 2023, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot by Liliana Vess, on Flickr
We have a 5-sided sign in Astoria for similar reasons, which I thought I posted when joining the forums but apparently not:

There's also hexagons on I-78.

I love how TxDOT handles these situations -- mounting a 45° angled post off the side of the barrier then adding a short vertical post holding the sign.  The sign is out of the way of danger and can still be seen.

Rothman

A hodgepodge:

Just some button copy in OH.  Surprised we don't have an obvious thread devoted to button copy, but it would probably be just an enormous pit, I suppose:



Span wire street blades, Mount Sterling, OH:



Rusty old one way sign in Celina, OH:



OH 53 shield?:



Holmes County 330 Shield (an example):


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What in bloody crike happened to those I-95 and 295 shields behind the 156?! Ugggggggha! Daaaaamn they ugly! Ooof. Damn contractors! Did they just plop those ugly ass numbers from, like, Photoshop, onto those shields, especially the US 156? Like, bro. Isn't that why (loosely) most contractors use a particular program, like, oh, I know, SIGNCAD, something like that? I'm surprised the US 10 sign survived that ugliness! 
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Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
A hodgepodge:

Just some button copy in OH.  Surprised we don't have an obvious thread devoted to button copy, but it would probably be just an enormous pit, I suppose:



Ain't "The Best of Road Signs" also typically that?
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Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 02, 2023, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
A hodgepodge:

Just some button copy in OH.  Surprised we don't have an obvious thread devoted to button copy, but it would probably be just an enormous pit, I suppose:



Ain't "The Best of Road Signs" also typically that?
No.
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kphoger

Quote from: J N Winkler on October 02, 2023, 06:13:53 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I think the 2003 MUTCD allowed it, but I don't remember if that concession was limited to construction signs.

Thanks for sending me in the right direction on this.  I believe you're correct in thinking it was only allowed for construction (temporary traffic control) signs.

But it wasn't limited to the 2003 edition:  it's in the 2009 edition as well.

Quote from: Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, 2009 Edition
Part 6 — Temporary Traffic Control

Chapter 6F — Temporary Traffic Control Zone Devices

§ 6F.16 — Warning Sign Function, Design, and Application

Option:
04 — Mounting or space considerations may justify a change from the standard diamond shape.
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roadfro

Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2023, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 02, 2023, 06:13:53 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I think the 2003 MUTCD allowed it, but I don't remember if that concession was limited to construction signs.

Thanks for sending me in the right direction on this.  I believe you're correct in thinking it was only allowed for construction (temporary traffic control) signs.

But it wasn't limited to the 2003 edition:  it's in the 2009 edition as well.

Quote from: Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, 2009 Edition
Part 6 — Temporary Traffic Control

Chapter 6F — Temporary Traffic Control Zone Devices

§ 6F.16 — Warning Sign Function, Design, and Application

Option:
04 — Mounting or space considerations may justify a change from the standard diamond shape.

I had the recollection that modifying standard shapes for permanent signage was explicitly prohibited. However, I can't find a MUTCD reference or FHWA interpretation to back that up.

In any case, some of these signs (like the hexagonal curve linked previously) could easily be regular size and shape with a modified mounting. Seems like that would've been easier than making a custom sign.
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kphoger

Quote from: Amaury on September 30, 2023, 02:51:05 PM
This is on US Route 2 eastbound in Washington. I find it interesting because both of these signs are on single posts, but it's not the single posts that are interesting because that's normal, it's where the posts are attached to on the signs: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2KDJyDUoixboEF169 They're on one side of the signs instead of in the middle.

It looks like it was intentionally done like that for some reason looking back through some of the different captures. However, it's interesting to note that the 2008 and 2007 captures have the signs how you'd normally see them: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qXwtvcQCtT3dpjoGA

Quote from: roadfro on October 03, 2023, 12:52:55 PM
In any case, some of these signs (like the hexagonal curve linked previously) could easily be regular size and shape with a modified mounting. Seems like that would've been easier than making a custom sign.

Which, in case anyone has (understandably) forgotten by now, is where this conversation started.
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roadman65

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74/171FAN

At the east end of the US 6/IL 82 concurrency in Geneseo.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219506344369751&set=a.10219506470572906)

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